Quitting marijuana, music
01-17-2019, 08:57 AM,
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
(01-17-2019, 02:57 AM)Tae Wrote:  
(01-16-2019, 08:42 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  I was being presumptuous. I was not however trying to make myself seem like an expert. I would agree that a large part of any media/propaganda is to steer opinions in the direction they want them to go. I would agree that the traditional vaporizing is most likely more healthy for you.

I was also not attacking your opinion, I am sorry if it seemed that way.
Not at all, not taken that way, let there only be love between us. I was trying to avoid seeming cranky, but I didn't have time to leave my post sitting for my usual period to come back and edit for tone. It's just this is a topic based on the one other community I've flung myself into >___> so I may come across strong.

But yeah, essential oils and their herbs! What a rush! Now there's something that could come across strong. Big Grin  I have to say it, I really do like sniffing mint. It's just so calming and invigorating all at once. Probably my second favorite herb, ginger may beat it because of how often I cook with it... not good together... but wow they're both awesome plants too.

Mint is very awesome!
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01-17-2019, 09:25 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 09:29 AM by Relax.)
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I can really relate to the

(01-17-2019, 04:10 AM)Cainite Wrote:  When I became mentally ill for a while, I couldn't touch weed.
Thoughts like the people in the street having personalities of their own was very scary for me for example..
Too scary maybe. so weed would make these things worse. in the last eight or nine years that I've had a relationship with pot, those two years were the only period in which I didn't use.

"weed would make these things worse".

Basically, I've never been able to use it with confidence, because it opens my mind out too much.
I need stronger anchors to 3D - as it is !
From a young age I was sensing, seeing beings and knowing things (freaking people out with the accuracy) .
This planet (density) has never felt 'real' to me.
'Life' has never felt real to me. (The veil becomes very evident if I don't distract my thinking.)
so weed....
woah....  Confused  
The only time I enjoyed it I'd already had several (alcoholic) drinks and so was already very relaxed... and at a party in the kitchen I sat on the floor I laughed a lot and threw Jelly (Jello) at people.

But without a few drinks beforehand. No can do... ikky paranoia/anxiety at best  at worst - time stretched out sooooo long - it took a car going past me hours to go past... I fell on the bed and turned the radio on and Kenny freakin' Rogers 'Coward Of the County' was playing (a song I intensely disliked)... and it played for HOURS!! but I was paralysed - unable to move to turn it off a 3 minute song went for a few days ! Big Grin  Sad agggggg

That was after not that much as well!. That's why I've NEVER taken hallucinogens, because I know I'd probably never 'return'...and don't want to be permanently hospitalised.

One time I had some weed and it was I don't know what type but I ended up stuck in my room with the world turned one dimensional

It lost 'depth' so everything in front of me was flat... but not only flat - but pressed 'flat' across my face/eyes/mind...
it was suffocating....

and my head was 'flat' (and massively wide) like a thin sheet of paper.... there was no depth (in any direction!) to anything... it was fucking horrific... I lay down and rode it out by keeping my eyes closed... and I remember eventually going outside to try to see if I could sense the world as other than a flat photograph superimposed over my field of vision... so I leant my hand out to touch a leaf and could only feel it just as I touched it... then couldn't feel it between my fingers as I still sat there holding it... so I kept letting go just to savour the 'sanity' of retouching it......every time I shifted my head there was no depth perception so it was literally like the normal world became compressed onto my eyes -  if you'd taken me to an unfamiliar place and asked me to gauge distance people/things were from me I couldn't have said - because it was all flat like a photo... horrific ...

it was a mental claustrophobia - really terrifying and nauseating... gads... I feel dizzy vertigo just describing it... and that was about 30 years ago! 0_o

apologies if it's too graphic a description

just want to say.... it can be very full on for some incarnating with already opened clairvoyance/thin veils/high IQ's/autism-aspergers/mental health issues/psychosis
etc....

I've always known it would mess with my neuro-atypical brain

All the people I've known who've liked it (& LSD etc) and  always been completely mentally stable no matter how wild the trip - have been people who felt they needed to expand their 'consciousness'... who didn't have any esp/or theories or ideas about 'existence' or 'consciousness'...and who were very stable contented, very 'normal' people...

I've had friends who had deep psychological issues would benefited from a few supported uses... but who became a real mess if they had too much, too potent and/or for too long... and people with mental health vulnerabilities are (imo) asking for problems with sometimes even only limited usage.

(I deeply love 2 people - 1 with acid induced schizophrenia and 1 with weed OD induced psychosis.)

I think 'fiddling with' 'the veil' in the accelerated way drugs can allow is a very tricky thing
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01-17-2019, 10:20 AM,
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(01-17-2019, 09:25 AM)Relaxo Wrote:  NB: Possible TRIGGER WARNING (bad drug experiences)

I can really relate to the


(01-17-2019, 04:10 AM)Cainite Wrote:  When I became mentally ill for a while, I couldn't touch weed.
Thoughts like the people in the street having personalities of their own was very scary for me for example..
Too scary maybe. so weed would make these things worse. in the last eight or nine years that I've had a relationship with pot, those two years were the only period in which I didn't use.

"weed would make these things worse".

Basically, I've never been able to use it with confidence, because it opens my mind out too much.
I need stronger anchors to 3D - as it is !
From a young age I was sensing, seeing beings and knowing things (freaking people out with the accuracy) .
This planet (density) has never felt 'real' to me.
'Life' has never felt real to me. (The veil becomes very evident if I don't distract my thinking.)
so weed....
woah....  Confused  
The only time I enjoyed it I'd already had several (alcoholic) drinks and so was already very relaxed... and at a party in the kitchen I sat on the floor I laughed a lot and threw Jelly (Jello) at people.

But without a few drinks beforehand. No can do... ikky paranoia/anxiety at best  at worst - time stretched out sooooo long - it took a car going past me hours to go past... I fell on the bed and turned the radio on and Kenny freakin' Rogers 'Coward Of the County' was playing (a song I intensely disliked)... and it played for HOURS!! but I was paralysed - unable to move to turn it off a 3 minute song went for a few days ! Big Grin  Sad agggggg

That was after not that much as well!. That's why I've NEVER taken hallucinogens, because I know I'd probably never 'return'...and don't want to be permanently hospitalised.

One time I had some weed and it was I don't know what type but I ended up stuck in my room with the world turned one dimensional

It lost 'depth' so everything in front of me was flat... but not only flat - but pressed 'flat' across my face/eyes/mind...
it was suffocating....

and my head was 'flat' (and massively wide) like a thin sheet of paper.... there was no depth (in any direction!) to anything... it was fucking horrific... I lay down and rode it out by keeping my eyes closed... and I remember eventually going outside to try to see if I could sense the world as other than a flat photograph superimposed over my field of vision... so I leant my hand out to touch a leaf and could only feel it just as I touched it... then couldn't feel it between my fingers as I still sat there holding it... so I kept letting go just to savour the 'sanity' of retouching it......every time I shifted my head there was no depth perception so it was literally like the normal world became compressed onto my eyes -  if you'd taken me to an unfamiliar place and asked me to gauge distance people/things were from me I couldn't have said - because it was all flat like a photo... horrific ...

it was a mental claustrophobia - really terrifying and nauseating... gads... I feel dizzy vertigo just describing it... and that was about 30 years ago! 0_o

apologies if it's too graphic a description

just want to say.... it can be very full on for some incarnating with already opened clairvoyance/thin veils/high IQ's/autism-aspergers/mental health issues/psychosis
etc....

I've always known it would mess with my neuro-atypical brain

All the people I've known who've liked it (& LSD etc) and  always been completely mentally stable no matter how wild the trip - have been people who felt they needed to expand their 'consciousness'... who didn't have any esp/or theories or ideas about 'existence' or 'consciousness'...and who were very stable contented, very 'normal' people...

I've had friends who had deep psychological issues would benefited from a few supported uses... but who became a real mess if they had too much, too potent and/or for too long... and people with mental health vulnerabilities are (imo) asking for problems with sometimes even only limited usage.

(I deeply love 2 people - 1 with acid induced schizophrenia and 1 with weed OD induced psychosis.)

I think 'fiddling with' 'the veil' in the accelerated way drugs can allow is a very tricky thing

I largely agree and don't recommend drugs to anyone.

However I truly enjoy LSD, my brother and I are a bit of psychonauts though, and are mental stamina or durability is pretty high. I could easily see how it can cause damage or lasting traumatic effects, and is nothing to play around with. I only would do it, if you feel absolutely drawn to it, and you want to do it in your heart of hearts. You got to be ready to accept what you find.

Oh yeah weed has definitely had me ungrounded and feeling paranoid, and a lot of the ways you explain. Though I have never experience the one dimensional experience you have, that honestly sounds very very trippy and not cool.
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01-17-2019, 01:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 01:28 PM by Cainite.)
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Hey! a quick question. what is the mental catalyst for physical manifestation of pain in the shoulders and upper back?
I assume it has sth to do with responsibility. and that may have sth to do with the subject of this thread.
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01-17-2019, 02:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019, 04:49 PM by Glow.)
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Mine came from very long ago in this life(wow that made me feel old lol) but sometimes we carry the catalyst our whole life and just keep repeating it. For me very specifically it was feeling I was on my own, and couldn't manage. I was 4 watching all the other kids be taken care of while I was on my own in that regard, so it stuck and was very deeply ingrained through life patterns.

I finally healed that just last year, I think often we learn to "be on our own" so actually even when we are no longer that we still hold the catalyst in our body and so act it out in life, not actually allowing ourselves to feel supported or less "on our own"

That could be responsibility but really anything that feels you are shouldering to much
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01-17-2019, 02:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 02:45 PM by Infinite Unity.)
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(01-17-2019, 01:28 PM)Cainite Wrote:  Hey! a quick question. what is the mental catalyst for physical manifestation of pain in the shoulders and upper back?
I assume it has sth to do with responsibility. and that may have sth to do with the subject of this thread.

I would agree that a lot of the time it will be from a resistance to the responabilities in ones life. However It could also be at a resistance to the heart chakra opening. Or from a need to speak openly, and bring to light the need for help or rearrangement of responsabilities.

Honestly these types of things aren't usually so cut and dry, and are dual-fronted.
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01-17-2019, 09:56 PM,
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(01-17-2019, 04:10 AM)Cainite Wrote:  everyone should paint or draw.  Idea

I agree. Drawing and painting make use of the right brain hemisphere, which in most people is chronically under-employed. Usually we are just perceiving symbols with our left hemisphere, and thinking in symbols as well (language, mainly). The right hemisphere perceives not in symbols, but in the raw, unfiltered spatial data. Activating the right hemisphere and training yourself to use it will increase your inner peace as you move away from symbol-thinking and into unfiltered presence, and also increase your ability to creatively visualise, which is useful.

There's a great book with a clever title, if anyone is interested, called Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards.

Also thanks for sharing @Relaxo, I enjoy reading psychedelic experiences. Especially when things don't quite go to plan. Your thoughts on who reacts well or not to psychedelics are interesting, because my younger brother is autistic, but now he loves weed and LSD. I think it's been really good for him. He's not the anxious type of autistic though, at least not anymore, more of the "I don't understand humans, but I don't care to either" and just rampages his own path through life with a permanent grin on his face. He's even got a girlfriend now. I love him. I have convinced him to come down to Byron Bay with some LSD so we can go ocean swimming/free diving together with all the sea creatures.
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01-18-2019, 12:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019, 12:40 AM by Infinite Unity.)
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(01-17-2019, 09:56 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:  
(01-17-2019, 04:10 AM)Cainite Wrote:  everyone should paint or draw.  Idea

I agree. Drawing and painting make use of the right brain hemisphere, which in most people is chronically under-employed. Usually we are just perceiving symbols with our left hemisphere, and thinking in symbols as well (language, mainly). The right hemisphere perceives not in symbols, but in the raw, unfiltered spatial data. Activating the right hemisphere and training yourself to use it will increase your inner peace as you move away from symbol-thinking and into unfiltered presence, and also increase your ability to creatively visualise, which is useful.

There's a great book with a clever title, if anyone is interested, called Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards.

Also thanks for sharing @Relaxo, I enjoy reading psychedelic experiences. Especially when things don't quite go to plan. Your thoughts on who reacts well or not to psychedelics are interesting, because my younger brother is autistic, but now he loves weed and LSD. I think it's been really good for him. He's not the anxious type of autistic though, at least not anymore, more of the "I don't understand humans, but I don't care to either" and just rampages his own path through life with a permanent grin on his face. He's even got a girlfriend now. I love him. I have convinced him to come down to Byron Bay with some LSD so we can go ocean swimming/free diving together with all the sea creatures.

That's freaking cool man. LSD is the s***! My younger brother and I are going on a big trip Tom. Its gonna be the bomb!!!! To hyperspace!!!!!! I keep hoping that the universe brings DMT into my life, so I can take off forreal!

This one time I could see my brothers aura, and his thoughts interacting with the fields/enviroment around him. There were like images that were thoughts floating around his aura, and every couple seconds some would fade and another one would appear/float up out the top of his crown area of his head.
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01-18-2019, 01:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019, 01:12 AM by MangusKhan.)
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(01-18-2019, 12:35 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  
(01-17-2019, 09:56 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:  Also thanks for sharing @Relaxo, I enjoy reading psychedelic experiences. Especially when things don't quite go to plan. Your thoughts on who reacts well or not to psychedelics are interesting, because my younger brother is autistic, but now he loves weed and LSD. I think it's been really good for him. He's not the anxious type of autistic though, at least not anymore, more of the "I don't understand humans, but I don't care to either" and just rampages his own path through life with a permanent grin on his face. He's even got a girlfriend now. I love him. I have convinced him to come down to Byron Bay with some LSD so we can go ocean swimming/free diving together with all the sea creatures.

That's freaking cool man. LSD is the s***! My younger brother and I are going on a big trip Tom. Its gonna be the bomb!!!! To hyperspace!!!!!! I keep hoping that the universe brings DMT into my life, so I can take off forreal!

This one time I could see my brothers aura, and his thoughts interacting with the fields/enviroment around him. There were like images that were thoughts floating around his aura, and every couple seconds some would fade and another one would appear/float up out the top of his crown area of his head.

To have a good brother is such an absolute joy. May the two of you traverse the galaxy together!
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01-18-2019, 01:25 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019, 01:48 AM by Infinite Unity.)
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(01-18-2019, 01:11 AM)MangusKhan Wrote:  
(01-18-2019, 12:35 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  
(01-17-2019, 09:56 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:  Also thanks for sharing @Relaxo, I enjoy reading psychedelic experiences. Especially when things don't quite go to plan. Your thoughts on who reacts well or not to psychedelics are interesting, because my younger brother is autistic, but now he loves weed and LSD. I think it's been really good for him. He's not the anxious type of autistic though, at least not anymore, more of the "I don't understand humans, but I don't care to either" and just rampages his own path through life with a permanent grin on his face. He's even got a girlfriend now. I love him. I have convinced him to come down to Byron Bay with some LSD so we can go ocean swimming/free diving together with all the sea creatures.

That's freaking cool man. LSD is the s***! My younger brother and I are going on a big trip Tom. Its gonna be the bomb!!!! To hyperspace!!!!!! I keep hoping that the universe brings DMT into my life, so I can take off forreal!

This one time I could see my brothers aura, and his thoughts interacting with the fields/enviroment around him. There were like images that were thoughts floating around his aura, and every couple seconds some would fade and another one would appear/float up out the top of his crown area of his head.

To have a good brother is such an absolute joy. May the two of you traverse the galaxy together!

I dont recommend using LSD.

I love my brother, we jumping in the rocketship Tom!

Do you know about how many mics your brother takes on one trip? I've read alot of ppl needing like 700+ to get lift off. I get the pineal open with like 150-300, but s*** gets really wicked around 500.

He got these bomb ass gel tabs, they are so smooth dude, it's unreal. We're dropping two Tom! We are both so excited!!!! Also the gel tabs are wickedly strong. Id say like 250-400 ish mics per.

Do you take it or ever had?
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01-18-2019, 01:46 AM,
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Well I'm past the bodily imbalances mostly. However I am facing episodes of losing control of my temper, and anger that is ferocious. There's some depression to, I am currently working my way through these hard times. I have hit a blunt about 5 times over the past 3 days. Its hard going but I am hanging in there.

I find myself seeming to crave food, and after about twenty times of going through the fridge and cabinet, I finally realized my body was wanting to take in THC....Its a hard road for sure. I love all of you.
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01-18-2019, 06:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019, 07:03 PM by Minyatur.)
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If you want to do drug then go natural, at least it's made by higher intelligence.

I still don't feel done with marijuana, but I don't see reasons like others may have to. A friend of mine once said "I mean, I could see in some years that I don't take any much anymore but I don't see a reason why I'd come to quit entierely."  That's how I feel about it, I could lower my usage, because it does seem to down my energy a bit, but I know I got my own tendency to over-do things the time I feel like it.

I also don't believe in addiction, to me that's a big keyword to mean one is not aware of their own will. I smoked cigarettes a few years and got upset with people that said I was addicted because I assumed it was what I wanted. One day I did a MDMA (in crystal form) trip and spent an entire night talking about when I started smoking daily and the emotional circumstances of the time and it released a lot of energy. I still didn't feel like quitting but I became unable to appreciate it, unable to resonate with it and after forcing myself a bit I made my choice to quit and thought "maybe in another life it'll be a tool anew". From there is was effortless, had many occasions to have another one, but I plain just didn't feel like it and I don't remember having any withdrawal symptoms.

Had phases of drinking daily and they come as easily as they go, like moods that last months and little more.

When I quit cigarettes, I moved to dry vaping weed (all my friends agreed it is way better than smoking) and I rarely feel like not having it in a day, but sometimes I arrange myself to be stuck without to see if it creates a struggle and it doesn't really because I'm just not with the possibility. To me weed clearly has a lot of benifits and, just like cigarettes, would be something I can find to be thankful for even if I came to part with it. The benifits also are things I see myself integrating more and more into my sober state, it helped become so much more open to the energy of others and ever strenghtens my intuitions, helps me to connect to many energies and attain mutual-higher states of mind when discussing with people life and the universe. I think, for me, the downs of my usage could easily be balanced outside it and it is much more of a reflection than anything other. So while I don't believe I had a perfectly balanced relationship with marijuana, I do believe it is something that has definitely made me a better person (not that it was necessary, just sped things up a bit).

Drugs are tools and an imbalanced usage of a tool should not define the tool. A bit like how an alchoholic person needs to stay away from alcohol not because what the tool is but how it is used in self-destructive ways by twisted emotions. If you have a knife and turn it against yourself, it doesn't mean you couldn't find multiple ways to do something other that is positive with it, but ya you might feel like you're better off without any near yourself. But, the will to harm yourself remains untransformed.

Rather than wanting to stay away from something, I think it is more efficient to turn to oneself and distill why one is using that thing the way they are. With enough realization, the thing is not overcome, but the imbalanced usage may fall away. I deeply believe the positive path, the path of healing, to be a path of acceptance. Because, light is found within the shadows and one remains shrouded in darkness only so long they do not seek to see the light that resides in the shadows. In a distant time, all will see truly the light of themselves, and that my friends, is quite the beautiful sight. A sight where all see the purpose of each thing in their moment.

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01-18-2019, 08:11 PM,
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(01-18-2019, 01:25 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  
(01-18-2019, 01:11 AM)MangusKhan Wrote:  
(01-18-2019, 12:35 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  
(01-17-2019, 09:56 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:  Also thanks for sharing @Relaxo, I enjoy reading psychedelic experiences. Especially when things don't quite go to plan. Your thoughts on who reacts well or not to psychedelics are interesting, because my younger brother is autistic, but now he loves weed and LSD. I think it's been really good for him. He's not the anxious type of autistic though, at least not anymore, more of the "I don't understand humans, but I don't care to either" and just rampages his own path through life with a permanent grin on his face. He's even got a girlfriend now. I love him. I have convinced him to come down to Byron Bay with some LSD so we can go ocean swimming/free diving together with all the sea creatures.

That's freaking cool man. LSD is the s***! My younger brother and I are going on a big trip Tom. Its gonna be the bomb!!!! To hyperspace!!!!!! I keep hoping that the universe brings DMT into my life, so I can take off forreal!

This one time I could see my brothers aura, and his thoughts interacting with the fields/enviroment around him. There were like images that were thoughts floating around his aura, and every couple seconds some would fade and another one would appear/float up out the top of his crown area of his head.

To have a good brother is such an absolute joy. May the two of you traverse the galaxy together!

I dont recommend using LSD.

I love my brother, we jumping in the rocketship Tom!

Do you know about how many mics your brother takes on one trip? I've read alot of ppl needing like 700+ to get lift off. I get the pineal open with like 150-300, but s*** gets really wicked around 500.

He got these bomb ass gel tabs, they are so smooth dude, it's unreal. We're dropping two Tom! We are both so excited!!!! Also the gel tabs are wickedly strong. Id say like 250-400 ish mics per.

Do you take it or ever had?

I have never taken LSD before, mainly because mushrooms grew in my backyard and I had read so much about all these dangerous new substances being sold as LSD to naive trip-seekers. In the past year or two my brother got on to a good source for genuine LSD, so that's the only reason I want to try it now. He's still just a baby really when it comes to experimenting with substances, so he reckons he only needs 100 mics to have a good time. He's never taken higher than that and I respect his will to delve no deeper. I on the other hand have already been to the void and back with some other substances, so I'm thinking I want to take 200 for a first time at the beach. I think any heavier and I risk physical impairment, which will hinder my ability to swim with the dolphins and sea turtles.

I understand that the 500 mark is where things become really out-of-this-world. Funnily though, all my best psychedelic experiences, including the contacts with II, have been on light dosages where I was still fully conscious and capable. I find heavier trips are more amusing and fascinating than anything, sometimes intense and confusing, but that's only talking about mushrooms (and one time DMT). The sort of thing where you wake up on the floor after talking to god about the true meaning of numbers and then give birth to a universe and just scratch your head and go "what he heck was that all about?".

Let me know how you and your brother enjoy that inter-dimensional journey!
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01-18-2019, 10:12 PM,
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How are you going Cainite ? Smile
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01-19-2019, 03:04 AM,
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(01-18-2019, 10:12 PM)Relaxo Wrote:  How are you going Cainite ? Smile

Not very good. no longer concerned with weed and lessening the dose.
A family member has messed everything up by making a mistake. I can't explain the situation.
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01-19-2019, 03:27 AM,
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oh... I hope you'll be ok to ground yourself and protect yourself ?

sending best wishes.
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01-19-2019, 05:23 AM,
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No need to explain. Sorry to hear, keep yourself safe. <3

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01-19-2019, 11:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-19-2019, 11:21 AM by smiLie.)
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(01-14-2019, 02:12 PM)Rhayader Wrote:  I struggle with insomnia and so have medicated myself with weed and/or booze to help with that...can't have had many sober night's in the last 10 years...I've wanted to quit and be clean but at the same time what I deem as my situation suggests why bother?

My I suggest?

You can try a couple of simple relaxants that are plants and are near free. Two very common ingredients for teas, valerian is much stronger. You can get valerian in CVS etc. pharmacies , or for even better deal a huge bag on ebay. I have my own tea bags or use metal tea diffuser in my stainless travel mug.
* Chamomile,
* Valerian root .

And as other people mentioned above, Mint is also awesome , and very easy to grow your own.
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01-19-2019, 03:40 PM,
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
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01-19-2019, 04:27 PM,
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
I've given up weed for the most part, and every time I have a puff, it does nothing to make me feel good like it used to. I'd say you're smoking to numb pain and dull yourself to emotional turmoil. That's what makes you an addict.

Allow yourself to feel what you're suppressing. Feel it, as shitty as it is. Feel it. You'll get the urge to smoke every now and then. Hell, I had the urge earlier today and almost smoked some scraped up resin I had saved in a small mason jar. But the fact is, I chose not to do it and just feel my pain and if the suffering becomes to unbearable, that's the time to say :f*** it! I wanna live by my own virtue purely for myself, because I'm tired of suffering!" That or kill myself, but I don't think I'll do that. I've still got too much to lose.

So I think you just face what you're suppressing. It sucks but you've gotta face it. Besides, weed will stop being fun at some point, mark my words.
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01-19-2019, 11:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-19-2019, 11:43 PM by Infinite Unity.)
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
(01-18-2019, 06:56 PM)Minyatur Wrote:  If you want to do drug then go natural, at least it's made by higher intelligence.

I still don't feel done with marijuana, but I don't see reasons like others may have to. A friend of mine once said "I mean, I could see in some years that I don't take any much anymore but I don't see a reason why I'd come to quit entierely."  That's how I feel about it, I could lower my usage, because it does seem to down my energy a bit, but I know I got my own tendency to over-do things the time I feel like it.

I also don't believe in addiction, to me that's a big keyword to mean one is not aware of their own will. I smoked cigarettes a few years and got upset with people that said I was addicted because I assumed it was what I wanted. One day I did a MDMA (in crystal form) trip and spent an entire night talking about when I started smoking daily and the emotional circumstances of the time and it released a lot of energy. I still didn't feel like quitting but I became unable to appreciate it, unable to resonate with it and after forcing myself a bit I made my choice to quit and thought "maybe in another life it'll be a tool anew". From there is was effortless, had many occasions to have another one, but I plain just didn't feel like it and I don't remember having any withdrawal symptoms.

Had phases of drinking daily and they come as easily as they go, like moods that last months and little more.

When I quit cigarettes, I moved to dry vaping weed (all my friends agreed it is way better than smoking) and I rarely feel like not having it in a day, but sometimes I arrange myself to be stuck without to see if it creates a struggle and it doesn't really because I'm just not with the possibility. To me weed clearly has a lot of benifits and, just like cigarettes, would be something I can find to be thankful for even if I came to part with it. The benifits also are things I see myself integrating more and more into my sober state, it helped become so much more open to the energy of others and ever strenghtens my intuitions, helps me to connect to many energies and attain mutual-higher states of mind when discussing with people life and the universe. I think, for me, the downs of my usage could easily be balanced outside it and it is much more of a reflection than anything other. So while I don't believe I had a perfectly balanced relationship with marijuana, I do believe it is something that has definitely made me a better person (not that it was necessary, just sped things up a bit).

Drugs are tools and an imbalanced usage of a tool should not define the tool. A bit like how an alchoholic person needs to stay away from alcohol not because what the tool is but how it is used in self-destructive ways by twisted emotions. If you have a knife and turn it against yourself, it doesn't mean you couldn't find multiple ways to do something other that is positive with it, but ya you might feel like you're better off without any near yourself. But, the will to harm yourself remains untransformed.

Rather than wanting to stay away from something, I think it is more efficient to turn to oneself and distill why one is using that thing the way they are. With enough realization, the thing is not overcome, but the imbalanced usage may fall away. I deeply believe the positive path, the path of healing, to be a path of acceptance. Because, light is found within the shadows and one remains shrouded in darkness only so long they do not seek to see the light that resides in the shadows. In a distant time, all will see truly the light of themselves, and that my friends, is quite the beautiful sight. A sight where all see the purpose of each thing in their moment.

Agree that the usage doesnt define the drug. However my usage was to help mitigate blockages/imbalances. That for a lack of a better word was practically unbalancable due to certain exerted forces and environmental factors. I could never explain fully here. Now that alot of those environmental factors have been dealt with. My higher self, we, have decided it is time to stop using weed to mitigate orange ray imbalances. Due to it being an opportune time to do so.

One of the first things you should know about one, is that I dont do anything I dont feel like doing or want to. I follow the spirit in every moment. I do not care what the seeming variables are, when spirit relays communication we do. No matter the seeming cost or exponential factors seemingly involved. We inform the illusion, the illusion does not inform us. As much as possible.

I serve others due to the desire to. Not because of moral high ground, or becuase people think it is the right thing to do. But because at the deepest core, I cherish and love others, and I desire to serve them. I want to lift you up, and bring you higher and higher. I want to succulate on every moment with you. Hold your hand through the dark nights. And form memories that last forever unto Infinity.

I am quitting weed and alot of other things currently due to at the very core, because I desire/want to. Nothing more, nothing less. We are.

Connection and strength with higher self has dramatically improved. However I am dealing with factors like an increase in engine power does to a cars handling.
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01-20-2019, 02:42 AM,
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
Thanks everyone... you're all great.
I can leave the world to you now with ease. (if I get to)Big Grin

Btw, after I posted about the shoulder/upperback pain and its relation to responsibility, catalysts started helping me realize that I was right in my assumption.

It was about not only responsibility but the whole maturity and the king archetype that the wanderer has to embrace at some point.
The shoulder pain was gone after I realized the meaning..


''All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes, a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.''
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01-20-2019, 04:06 AM,
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RE: Quitting marijuana, music
(01-19-2019, 04:27 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:  I've given up weed for the most part, and every time I have a puff, it does nothing to make me feel good like it used to. I'd say you're smoking to numb pain and dull yourself to emotional turmoil. That's what makes you an addict.

Allow yourself to feel what you're suppressing. Feel it, as shitty as it is. Feel it. You'll get the urge to smoke every now and then. Hell, I had the urge earlier today and almost smoked some scraped up resin I had saved in a small mason jar. But the fact is, I chose not to do it and just feel my pain and if the suffering becomes to unbearable, that's the time to say :f*** it! I wanna live by my own virtue purely for myself, because I'm tired of suffering!" That or kill myself, but I don't think I'll do that. I've still got too much to lose.

So I think you just face what you're suppressing. It sucks but you've gotta face it. Besides, weed will stop being fun at some point, mark my words.

Well, no one would feel better if for example they are concerned about something troubling. at times it makes one feel a lot worse in fact.

It's fun to me still if I do less.. also if nothing bad happens at the time. there's no suppression of feelings. but yeah some aspects of me won't surface as much and may remain suppressed.. I get your point.

Congrats btw, Sooner or later I will be free of it too! I certainly do feel weak in this aspect. not denying that.
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10-01-2019, 03:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-01-2019, 03:19 PM by Cainite.)
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I've been doing single mindedness meditations.

I think with this now I can finally and eventually get rid of my addictions

It's about paying attention to one thing only. it can be the water pouring on your skin or a 4/5 word mantra repeated in your head while sitting still, a bit upright, but comfy which I think is the main technique to reach that state that includes what I think is kinda similar to the euphoria that some drugs give..
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10-01-2019, 05:18 PM,
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(01-20-2019, 04:06 AM)Cainite Wrote:  
(01-19-2019, 04:27 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:  I've given up weed for the most part, and every time I have a puff, it does nothing to make me feel good like it used to. I'd say you're smoking to numb pain and dull yourself to emotional turmoil. That's what makes you an addict.

Allow yourself to feel what you're suppressing. Feel it, as shitty as it is. Feel it. You'll get the urge to smoke every now and then. Hell, I had the urge earlier today and almost smoked some scraped up resin I had saved in a small mason jar. But the fact is, I chose not to do it and just feel my pain and if the suffering becomes to unbearable, that's the time to say :f*** it! I wanna live by my own virtue purely for myself, because I'm tired of suffering!" That or kill myself, but I don't think I'll do that. I've still got too much to lose.

So I think you just face what you're suppressing. It sucks but you've gotta face it. Besides, weed will stop being fun at some point, mark my words.

Well, no one would feel better if for example they are concerned about something troubling. at times it makes one feel a lot worse in fact.

It's fun to me still if I do less.. also if nothing bad happens at the time. there's no suppression of feelings. but yeah some aspects of me won't surface as much and may remain suppressed.. I get your point.

Congrats btw, Sooner or later I will be free of it too! I certainly do feel weak in this aspect. not denying that.

I find this weird that it suppress stuff for people. For me it brings things to the surface for days after. In the moment it might lighten the mood but is brings me down the next day without fail even if I have been handling catalyst well for some time.

Interesting how it effects people different. I love a good thc oil on sore muscles though, numbs pain physically for sure, psychological for me it brings up catalyst if ingested.
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10-02-2019, 12:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-02-2019, 01:15 AM by ZW929.)
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For anyone trying to quit weed (or other substances).. you might check out CBD products. CBD oil is pretty effective in terms of bringing out the beneficial/medicinal elements of cannabis without the intensity of the weed high.. both mental and physical. The sense of ease and well being.

There's also hemp flower- which is legal in most states in the U.S. it can be ordered online. it looks just like weed but its high CBD- very low THC... (example 20% CBD to to .3% THC).
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10-02-2019, 05:57 PM,
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I wasn't planning on quitting weed, but I went from having it daily to not having had it for soon 6 months. Last time was on the 4/20!

I just wanted to take up jogging and went for the first time on that date. How my lungs felt made me want to really feel lighter and freer in my body and so I haven't vaped since then (dry vaping which I took 3-4 years ago). I still have some edibles but ever since I started being on a break I felt my body wanting to be without and so haven't had them.

Been pretty effortless for something that had been a daily part of my life for several years, just like it did with cigarettes. I wasn't fighting or having issue with my consumption and always did things how I felt doing them and I see once again that things can effectively just fall away rather than be overcome. When you yourself shift within, then your needs, cravings and habits also do shift as a natural consequence.

Anyhow, now I pretty much just not feel like it. Might come back, might not, I'll just ride life's cycles and see what comes in the future.

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