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    Thread: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility


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    05-21-2021, 04:51 AM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2021, 04:51 AM by EvolvingPhoenix.)
    "Of course you have decided this, because it was the decision of your higher self to incarnate as a wanderer."

    That is not what I argued. I argued whether or not that means you have everything settled. there is more to decide on than just that, which is part of the reason why you are here. If you cannot understand that, then you might not have yourself figured out as well as you think you do.

    "WHY is answered by the perception of that you have decided to be here."

    Tautologically saying that the reason you are doing something is because you are doing something shows no REAL understanding of why you are doing it, or what makes it meaningful to do.

    "HOW is really complicated, but you can learn to feel how you can influence the group consciousness and be in service to others."

    Perhaps, but how to do it BETTER requires examination. And then making a decision. Not to mention, that you may not ACTUALLY want to do it, even if it WOULD be serviceable. In which case, further examination is required.

    "Puh - yes and no - this feelings and disorientation can be a symptom of a wanderer - that's the reason why i asked you for the book of Carla."

    "this feelings and disorientation can be a symptom of a wanderer"

    It is also simply the symptom of existence, especially within the 3D.

    "that's the reason why i asked you for the book of Carla."

    Deciding whether or not I am a wanderer is not at the heart of the issue. Nor is it truly relevant. Whether I am a wanderer or a 3D native, the issue is what it is and being a wanderer does not change the issue itself. Saying to yourself "Oh, my soul decided it was going to incarnate here in some vague intention to raise the vibration, so I guess that clears up my ambivalence, my internal struggles and my conflicting desires and motivations" is simply unfeasible in such a scenario. Maybe you did decide on one thing before incarnating, but you still have to understand your choice, and when you actually LIVE the incarnation, you may have a change of heart. In which case, saying "Well, I INITIALLY intended on this" doesn't erase the conflicting desires, motivations and perspectives that earthly EXPERIENCE evokes.

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    Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 02:14 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by RitaJC - 04-15-2019, 05:18 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 04:38 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Minyatur - 04-15-2019, 10:22 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 05:25 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Minyatur - 04-15-2019, 08:46 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 09:05 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Minyatur - 04-15-2019, 09:28 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 09:50 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by kristina - 04-15-2019, 04:19 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-15-2019, 05:16 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by xise - 04-15-2019, 10:05 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by kristina - 04-16-2019, 09:00 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by RitaJC - 04-16-2019, 09:35 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by RitaJC - 04-17-2019, 05:10 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-17-2019, 02:28 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-17-2019, 10:15 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-17-2019, 10:57 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-17-2019, 11:52 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by xise - 04-17-2019, 11:13 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-17-2019, 02:16 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-17-2019, 12:02 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-17-2019, 01:55 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-18-2019, 05:06 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2019, 11:56 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-19-2019, 01:37 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Diana - 04-19-2019, 10:19 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-19-2019, 01:40 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by loostudent - 04-19-2019, 05:27 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2019, 07:08 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 04-19-2019, 07:25 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by loostudent - 04-20-2019, 11:52 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by pat19989 - 05-21-2021, 01:37 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-21-2021, 08:00 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2019, 07:31 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by RitaJC - 04-30-2019, 03:50 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-30-2019, 04:34 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Minyatur - 04-30-2019, 05:45 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 05-01-2019, 05:39 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2019, 08:13 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-20-2019, 03:04 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by speedforce131 - 04-30-2019, 01:09 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-30-2019, 08:26 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Minyatur - 04-30-2019, 09:43 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 05-01-2019, 05:52 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by speedforce131 - 04-30-2019, 10:23 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 08:13 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by jafar - 04-19-2021, 10:36 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 12:37 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-01-2019, 01:04 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by speedforce131 - 05-01-2019, 03:33 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 05-01-2019, 05:41 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ixchel - 05-01-2019, 05:43 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by tadeus - 05-21-2021, 02:28 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-21-2021, 02:44 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by tadeus - 05-21-2021, 03:04 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by ZW929 - 05-01-2019, 02:40 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by AnthroHeart - 05-01-2019, 05:44 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 04-19-2021, 11:06 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 11:31 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 12:17 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 04-19-2021, 01:11 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 01:14 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 01:21 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 01:18 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 01:26 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 01:45 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 01:48 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 02:12 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 04-19-2021, 05:50 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-19-2021, 06:04 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by KaliSouth - 04-20-2021, 03:29 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 04-20-2021, 07:32 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Dtris - 04-23-2021, 05:43 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 04-23-2021, 08:57 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Dtris - 05-01-2021, 07:41 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 01:48 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 05-01-2021, 11:31 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Sacred Fool - 05-01-2021, 12:50 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 05-01-2021, 04:02 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Sacred Fool - 05-01-2021, 05:08 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Dtris - 05-01-2021, 06:41 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 01:55 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by flofrog - 05-06-2021, 11:38 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 05-01-2021, 05:26 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by sillypumpkins - 05-01-2021, 06:17 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by meadow-foreigner - 05-02-2021, 05:14 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Sacred Fool - 05-02-2021, 11:45 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021, 01:55 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:00 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:01 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Dtris - 05-06-2021, 08:27 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:22 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021, 02:25 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by meadow-foreigner - 05-06-2021, 09:31 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Patrick - 05-06-2021, 09:34 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:24 PM
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    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:27 PM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021, 10:26 AM
    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-06-2021, 02:31 PM
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    RE: Depression and Accepting or Resisting Futility - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-21-2021, 04:51 AM
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