Why the hate for wisdom?

[Relax]

Hiya, Relax

Re: neutrality - the complete construct is this :

"I see much being brought to light in the discussion re: STS and STO ...I see these collectively as 'torque', and therefore have a substantially neutral view - together they are a dance, an energy dynamic. ( not in my view a fight )."

What I am saying in regard to 'torque' is that STS is what makes STO 'spin', ie: become active/alive - and vice versa. Each owes its energy and existence to the other. What at first seem two, indeed are more akin to two halves of a whole.. When the view is wide enough to house the whole, the understanding in itself is therefore neutral : ( 'one' generally not being incline to rail against 'itself' ).
 
I, myself, in this body, regardless of the understanding am most definitely still polarized ( the understanding is not yet the complete experience. A knowing that comes to me of this is that my very being ( polarized ) is creating it's pole, it's counter(part). The balance, right balance always being kept. I cannot stop this. And to rail against it is not intelligent. The knowing of this does not stop me from being who I am. As it, likewise, does not move me to stop you or any other.

If all are not sovereign - no one is.

STS and STO are in my own view and vision equivalents ...Equivalents which as we know, at a certain point fall together. not -again in my own view- as one over the other. but as a whole. the whole which originally subdivided into each.

Re:

"highly benevolent ( though still sts )" 

Quote: Relax
I'm of course not aware of how much LOO you've read but this is a misnomer  - a contradiction in terms

It would be a fun discussion to have LIVE sometime. 

Casey

I did get what you meant - ie:

"the complete construct"

writing

"I see these collectively as 'torque', and therefore have a substantially neutral view"

was what I went on.

Your further explanation now clarifies; because as it read you seemed to be saying you were neutral - and as this thread has been so fractious (to put it mildly) caution applies for me with this thread (and B4th) atm.

I do understand the principles of what you're saying - my vigilance is - again - thread related (though I'm often on high alert on this forum) so I also wanted to address that you say you think STS can be

"highly benevolent" and of "integrity"

I have to 'call this out' as there's no benevolence in STS - unless you count the 5% left over from the 95% service to self polarity required by Ra's definition - and 5% isn't "highly benevolent. And along the way to polarising STS, benevolence would be destabilising to your path and contraindicated.

This just isn't my perception of STS with or without the LOO definition.

I also don't find any "integrity" in STS as it is the quality of "being honest and having strong moral principles; honour, upstandingness, good character, principle(s), ethics, morals, righteousness, high-mindedness, right-mindedness, noble-mindedness, virtue, decency, fairness, scrupulousness, sincerity, truthfulness, or trustworthiness."

Abandoning, subverting, overthrowing these qualities is vital behaviour on the path to STS polarising.

So, unless you mean integrity as in building (physical) related ie: "structural integrity"   "integrity" used for STS is a contradiction in terms.

If you're meaning that in fulfilling it's role to provide the torque for STO... imo that's more functional than 'helpful' (benevolent, honourable et al).

I agree when you say

"they are equivalents"

yes - and they are 'polar opposites' - this is why I replied so quickly to your post because parts of it feel quite strange analysis to me/to 'the material'

I agree with

"The balance, right balance always being kept. I cannot stop this. And to rail against it is not intelligent. The knowing of this does not stop me from being who I am. As it, likewise, does not move me to stop you or any other.

If all are not sovereign - no one is."

It is also my perception - but there is still the fact that a time comes where the polarities separate past 3D and continue their growth on their chosen paths separately from 4D and onwards.

So, the Ra material (and my own 'sense' of cosmic order/progression) is not aligned with:

"Equivalents which as we know, at a certain point fall together. not -again in my own view- as one over the other. but as a whole. the whole which originally subdivided into each."

by 6D STS eventually realises that to go any further it needs to 'switch polarity'.

I could see that The Ultimate 'All That Is' - the 'Origin'...that wants to 'know itself' - exists in a state of neutrality/all polarity/all potentiality - but neutrality in this current octave of densities is not the 'resolution' that occurs.
STO is.

Yes, light is perceived by the contrast of absence of light - but ultimately light is THE 'state' of this octave. I think absence of Light/Love is a lesser "distortion" than negativity/evil/horror/pain/greed/STS.

I'd also add that Service To Other is implicitly inclusive of self care, self respect, self love - ie: from a 'full cup' we are much better placed to go forth and serve others.

Also - service to others can often take the form of seemingly harsh or detached behaviour/s. Or of not "serving" ie: when it would be infringement of individual sovereignty.
For a wanderer simply to have had the courage/love to come to/revisit this 3D Earth planet and just 'exist' with a good heart/intention - already is 'serving' <3


There are many members/mods who can explain and describe this much more fully than I have time to do.

the potential for discussion is an interesting idea - but I'm not sure how far we could progress - because I think STO has a wide range of % of benevolent qualities - but to me STS's path is very linear and difficult; and needs to be pursued very 'vigorously'.