Why is Earth of such interest to the Orion Empire?
11-07-2019, 11:07 PM,
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Ymarskar, I gotta be honest, the Orion philosophy you describe has little logic to it. "We don't want to be slaves, so we shall enslave all and become willing slaves"

"We hate assimilation, therefor we assimilate"

Sounds like they're just raging against their own ugly reflection. Actually, that makes sense. Projected fears.

I guess they view their own system of enslavement as preferable as it encourages one to retain one's individuality and has the possibility of rising in the ranks.

What do they plan on doing once they essentially commit suicide by killing god? Is it their goal to stop existing or something?
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11-08-2019, 06:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-08-2019, 07:26 AM by Ymarsakar.)
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(11-07-2019, 11:07 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:  Ymarskar, I gotta be honest, the Orion philosophy you describe has little logic to it. "We don't want to be slaves, so we shall enslave all and become willing slaves"

"We hate assimilation, therefor we assimilate"

Sounds like they're just raging against their own ugly reflection. Actually, that makes sense. Projected fears.

I guess they view their own system of enslavement as preferable as it encourages one to retain one's individuality and has the possibility of rising in the ranks.

What do they plan on doing once they essentially commit suicide by killing god? Is it their goal to stop existing or something?

In the i am ra material, refer to the lines about orion closing off the heart chakra. The other hint is at 6th density where orion types choose to defect.

To reduce the concepts down further, look at north korea and iran or china vs singapore. 5th density orion is an empire of that stuff. Hundreds of entities. In planetary complexes. Not that planets or galaxies exist but that is another story.

I am ra 16. X is basically the same assessment as my downloaded description. I am ra, lists what an incarnation s strong points are. The vedic chart is not an incarnation s fault. It was pre selected by the pre mortal self, the 6th density higher self.

A bias would be the inclination to always be honest. The speed run in question would be pillars of eternity or prey. Sufficient background needs to be obtained from numerous subjects.

3rd density veterans of the .6 .7 sub octave are actually better at mastering the vehicle chem body. The divine purpose is in the celestial configuration.

Ra is prevented from the divine laws in talking about things he is not asked. Since i can connect to akashic records and higher self trinity, this restriction does not apply to me as i am still incarnated in the system. I know how it works.

These examples only make sense if you have experience with a few things. This is not an intelligence issue. Prometheus society is above average by my standards.

A potential example of lack of deviousness is like naruto. Someone who prefers straight lines, honesty, and harmony over human deceptions or twists. They may n9t even understand human deception. They may not see evil people as evil either, to start with, due to the unity of 6th not contending with orion.

They unlearn all this. An unawakened wanderer is like a clueless human that seems very weak in many areas. An awakened wanderer looks like the speed run expert. Thry suddenly get really good and fast at using catalysts on earth.

A normal human gets stronger as they awaken chakra control via the spirit awakening. A wanderer has the potential to more effectively control their celestial gifts. It will look much like yeshua s progress. Jesus the christ. The change is dramatic not gradual. Even your hometown wont recognize you after hero s journey is completed.
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11-08-2019, 10:02 AM,
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(11-08-2019, 06:56 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote:  
(11-07-2019, 11:07 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:  Ymarskar, I gotta be honest, the Orion philosophy you describe has little logic to it. "We don't want to be slaves, so we shall enslave all and become willing slaves"

"We hate assimilation, therefor we assimilate"

Sounds like they're just raging against their own ugly reflection. Actually, that makes sense. Projected fears.

I guess they view their own system of enslavement as preferable as it encourages one to retain one's individuality and has the possibility of rising in the ranks.

What do they plan on doing once they essentially commit suicide by killing god? Is it their goal to stop existing or something?

In the i am ra material, refer to the lines about orion closing off the heart chakra. The other hint is at 6th density where orion types choose to defect.

To reduce the concepts down further, look at north korea and iran or china vs singapore. 5th density orion is an empire of that stuff. Hundreds of entities. In planetary complexes. Not that planets or galaxies exist but that is another story.

I am ra 16. X is basically the same assessment as my downloaded description. I am ra, lists what an incarnation s strong points are. The vedic chart is not an incarnation s fault. It was pre selected by the pre mortal self, the 6th density higher self.

A bias would be the inclination to always be honest. The speed run in question would be pillars of eternity or prey. Sufficient background needs to be obtained from numerous subjects.

3rd density veterans of the .6 .7 sub octave are actually better at mastering the vehicle chem body. The divine purpose is in the celestial configuration.

Ra is prevented from the divine laws in talking about things he is not asked. Since i can connect to akashic records and higher self trinity, this restriction does not apply to me as i am still incarnated in the system. I know how it works.

These examples only make sense if you have experience with a few things. This is not an intelligence issue. Prometheus society is above average by my standards.

A potential example of lack of deviousness is like naruto. Someone who prefers straight lines, honesty, and harmony over human deceptions or twists. They may n9t even understand human deception. They may not see evil people as evil either, to start with, due to the unity of 6th not contending with orion.

They unlearn all this. An unawakened wanderer is like a clueless human that seems very weak in many areas. An awakened wanderer looks like the speed run expert. Thry suddenly get really good and fast at using catalysts on earth.

A normal human gets stronger as they awaken chakra control via the spirit awakening. A wanderer has the potential to more effectively control their celestial gifts. It will look much like yeshua s progress. Jesus the christ. The change is dramatic not gradual. Even your hometown wont recognize you after hero s journey is completed.

Very interesting you should say that, because JEsus went back to his hometown and they ABSOLUTELY recognized him. And they had a very hard time believing that the person that grew up in their town was suddenly a holy prophet, prompting Jesus to say this: “A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household.”

"They unlearn all this. An unawakened wanderer is like a clueless human that seems very weak in many areas. An awakened wanderer looks like the speed run expert. Thry suddenly get really good and fast at using catalysts on earth."

Ahh. Okay. This clarification makes sense.

Anyway, could you consult the Akashik records then to find out what the Orion Empire's plan is for what to do after they commit deicide?
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11-08-2019, 08:06 PM,
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Afaik, that information is not in the akash. I waited for any download but i drew a blank. The akash records every human experience or book burned on earth or even in earth. That answer would need a 6th or 5th orion to incarnate here and remember. Their 3rd density draco thralls dont know much. I suspect the 6th density orion wanderer defectors may know at least a guess.

I surmise a 6.7 density orion when asking that question, does not get an answer they like.
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11-10-2019, 06:46 PM,
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Its not that Earth is 'such' an interest to Orion. Its likely that it is 'another' interest to it. Its the prerogative of the negative to conquer behind the guise of a crusade.
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11-26-2020, 12:51 PM,
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(11-06-2019, 11:00 AM)Loki Wrote:  This sub-Logos created entities more inclined to be self-centered. Why wouldn't be Orion empire interested? Isn't this the rule of the game called Creation? The struggle between good guys and bad guys until all finally get along sometimes in 6D?
Ra said we are mostly a positive oriented planet but still we managed to cause the planet to move to 4D because of how well we co-operated. Look at how easy we distort any good intention.

Don't you think Trump is assisted by 5D negative. I see evil in Trump clearly but he was elected because of evil by people that hated and feared above all. Trust me this species is easily corruptible by evil.

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12-06-2020, 01:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2020, 01:20 AM by Kadoki.)
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(11-06-2019, 10:01 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:  At this point, the planet itself has already harvested positive, and it's looking like in spite of all their efforts, it's going to be a small harvest for BOTH polarities, ESPECIALLY negative. So why do they work so hard to mess with our harvest? What's their primary interest in Earth? What is their primary intention? Why go through such effort as to send a 5th density being to interfere when it seems to make little difference anyway and they've already failed to make a very negative harvest? Why does Earth seem to be of such high interest to them if our harvest is likely to be small anyway?

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12-06-2020, 11:23 AM,
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(12-06-2020, 01:16 AM)Kadoki Wrote:  The harvest only started in 2020
The Catalyst is Ra discovering him/her self.

Would you elaborate on these further? I was always under the impression that the harvest was "now," during the time that Ra was channeling as well as sometime before and will be such after as well.

And please forgive my ignorance but I can't make sense of the second one. Seems like mind doesn't want to have any intellect this morning. ?
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12-06-2020, 12:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2020, 12:55 PM by Glow.)
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(12-06-2020, 11:23 AM)Namasteneko Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 01:16 AM)Kadoki Wrote:  The harvest only started in 2020
The Catalyst is Ra discovering him/her self.

Would you elaborate on these further? I was always under the impression that the harvest was "now," during the time that Ra was channeling as well as sometime before and will be such after as well.

And please forgive my ignorance but I can't make sense of the second one. Seems like mind doesn't want to have any intellect this morning. ?

None of that post was accurate Law of One information.
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12-06-2020, 12:51 PM,
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I’ve stayed out of this thread but since it is becoming more active I will add a point.

We are all one so Orion is us playing a part, offering distortions of fear.
The choice is do we latch onto them and move in fear(seperation) or let them pass accept they are a part of the one performing its role and keep seeing through the eyes of love/unity.

This is the choice of 3D harvest to make the choice over and over till we have built a strong enough charge of this choice that our polarity is set and we move into 4D+(unity) 4D-(seperation).

They are helping in their way the ones who seek their aid be polarized enough to get out of the sinkhole and choose.

If you take their serving of fear/separation, and you keep seeking it out(fear/separation distortions) then you are making a choice to accept their service.

All one. WE are of interest as THEY are a part of the ONE.
Serving the part of the one with catylist to further their polarity in the way they choose. Seeking unity consciousness, more than fear consciousness will get you out of the sinkhole, and away from STS seperation consciousness.

We here being STO it’s best to send love and move along eyes of love intact.
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12-06-2020, 01:54 PM,
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(12-06-2020, 12:51 PM)Glow Wrote:  If you take their serving of fear/separation, and you keep seeking it out(fear/separation distortions) then you are making a choice to accept their service.

Very good--and relevant--point.
    
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12-06-2020, 07:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2020, 07:35 PM by meadow-foreigner.)
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(12-06-2020, 12:51 PM)Glow Wrote:  We here being STO it’s best to send love and move along eyes of love intact.
My 2 cents.

An active sending of love may be a STS act, out of the pleasure that one feels in doing so.
One sends love because it makes one feel good, not so much due to the service one provides by doing so.

The act of actively sending love (without a previous request from other-selves) may not be a STO act, for it is based and centered on the Self, first and foremost. Unsolicited actions are no different than what the so-called Orion Empire does, enslaving other-selves. Enslavement isn't necessarily violent, for it may be vested in a costume of love, though an imposing, unsolicited love.

Such attitude isn't just being as much as it is actively doing something out of a desire to experience certain things instead of just being, selflessly and unpreoccupied with anything.
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12-06-2020, 07:47 PM,
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(12-06-2020, 07:34 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 12:51 PM)Glow Wrote:  We here being STO it’s best to send love and move along eyes of love intact.
My 2 cents.

An active sending of love may be a STS act, out of the pleasure that one feels in doing so.
One sends love because it makes one feel good, not so much due to the service one provides by doing so.

The act of actively sending love (without a previous request from other-selves) may not be a STO act, for it is based and centered on the Self, first and foremost. Unsolicited actions are no different than what the so-called Orion Empire does, enslaving other-selves. Enslavement isn't necessarily violent, for it may be vested in a costume of love, though an imposing, unsolicited love.

Such attitude isn't just being as much as it is actively doing something out of a desire to experience certain things instead of just being, selflessly and unpreoccupied with anything.
You may have a decent point but Love cannot enslave. Love does not have the ability to enslave or ensnare. Perhaps we should think of it this way, it would be the same to feel and think; "I love that other self" and by doing so, you are in fact sending love. You cannot go wrong when you love another. Just by thinking you love someone, you send it; as it is an intention that is being sent from your heart, by the heart, out of desire to love another.
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12-06-2020, 09:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2020, 10:05 PM by Glow.)
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(12-06-2020, 07:34 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 12:51 PM)Glow Wrote:  We here being STO it’s best to send love and move along eyes of love intact.
My 2 cents.

An active sending of love may be a STS act, out of the pleasure that one feels in doing so.
One sends love because it makes one feel good, not so much due to the service one provides by doing so.

The act of actively sending love (without a previous request from other-selves) may not be a STO act, for it is based and centered on the Self, first and foremost. Unsolicited actions are no different than what the so-called Orion Empire does, enslaving other-selves. Enslavement isn't necessarily violent, for it may be vested in a costume of love, though an imposing, unsolicited love.

Such attitude isn't just being as much as it is actively doing something out of a desire to experience certain things instead of just being, selflessly and unpreoccupied with anything.
It’s infinity so I shouldn’t be suprised that was interpreted differently than I intended.

Just to point out Ra specifically suggested the sending of love to those offering negative greetings so it’s not without basis in protocol.

Regardless your interpretation of my comment is through your filters so is just one potential interpretation.

Ohr Ein Sof saw the same as I sending/feeling love over lap.
You cannot force love you don’t feel of course but you can find it, within. Those balancing excersizes would help if it’s hard to find in certain situations.

All being one I do love all. Even those times I have been negatively greeted and put in turmoil sometimes for months.

Once the growth from the catylist was achieved I thanked them and felt/sent love as I recognize their service and that we are all one.
They served me well in offering catylist that helped me choose and grow.

Now a days I am less likely to take the bait but still feel/send love as I know we are all one, and their service is being offered only if I choose to take it for my own growth. If it is not needed it will not be taken, true service.

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12-06-2020, 09:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2020, 02:06 AM by Kadoki.)
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(12-06-2020, 11:23 AM)Namasteneko Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 01:16 AM)Kadoki Wrote:  The harvest only started in 2020
The Catalyst is Ra discovering him/her self.

Would you elaborate on these further? I was always under the impression that the harvest was "now," during the time that Ra was channeling as well as sometime before and will be such after as well.

And please forgive my ignorance but I can't make sense of the second one. Seems like mind doesn't want to have any intellect this morning. ?

Take all the dates from the Ra material back down from 2020, The apocalypse was the "torah" added 3300 years ago. All the other dates align with key events in history as well.
Covid-19 is the barely noticeable harvest. Statistically less people are dying but it had brought "light" to a lot of things plaguing the world.

If life is infinite, you are all looking at it wrong. The statues being torn down right now "were" the gods of the past. Trump and Putin could very well be incarnations of Nero and Caesar. Time doesn't exist, it is man made and as such why wouldn't it be a circle. #Great zodiac race
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12-06-2020, 11:14 PM,
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(12-06-2020, 07:34 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 12:51 PM)Glow Wrote:  We here being STO it’s best to send love and move along eyes of love intact.
My 2 cents.

An active sending of love may be a STS act, out of the pleasure that one feels in doing so.
One sends love because it makes one feel good, not so much due to the service one provides by doing so.

The act of actively sending love (without a previous request from other-selves) may not be a STO act, for it is based and centered on the Self, first and foremost. Unsolicited actions are no different than what the so-called Orion Empire does, enslaving other-selves. Enslavement isn't necessarily violent, for it may be vested in a costume of love, though an imposing, unsolicited love.

Such attitude isn't just being as much as it is actively doing something out of a desire to experience certain things instead of just being, selflessly and unpreoccupied with anything.

The Law of One Wrote:67.2 Questioner: Can you describe what you call the psychic attack component and tell me why it is strong at this particular time?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall elect not to retrace previously given information but rather elect to note that the psychic attack upon this instrument is at a constant level as long as it continues in this particular service.

Variations towards the distortion of intensity of attack occur due to the opportunities presented by the entity in any weakness. At this particular nexus the entity has been dealing with the distortion which you call pain for some time, as you call this measurement, and this has a cumulatively weakening effect upon physical energy levels. This creates a particularly favorable target of opportunity, and the entity of which we have previously spoken has taken this opportunity to attempt to be of service in its own way. It is fortunate for the ongoing vitality of this contact that the instrument is a strong-willed entity with little tendency towards the distortion, called among your peoples, hysteria, since the dizzying effects of this attack have been constant and at times disruptive for several of your diurnal periods.

However, this particular entity is adapting well to the situation without undue distortions towards fear. Thus the psychic attack is not successful but does have some draining influence upon the instrument.

67.3 Questioner: I will ask if I am correct in this analysis. We would consider that the entity making this so-called attack is offering its service with respect to its distortion in our polarized condition now so that we may more fully appreciate its polarity, and we are appreciative and thank this entity for its attempt to serve our One Creator in bringing to us knowledge in, shall I say, a more complete sense. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. There is no correctness or incorrectness to your statement. It is an expression of a positively polarized and balanced view of negatively polarized actions which has the effect of debilitating the strength of the negatively polarized actions.

67.26 Questioner: Then there is no other service that we can at this time offer that fifth-density entity of the Orion group who is so constantly with us. As I see it now there is nothing that we can do for him from your point of view? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. There is great humor in your attempt to be of polarized service to the opposite polarity. There is a natural difficulty in doing so since what you consider service is considered by this entity non-service. As you send this entity love and light and wish it well it loses its polarity and needs to regroup.

Thus it would not consider your service as such. On the other hand, if you allowed it to be of service by removing this instrument from your midst you might perhaps perceive this as not being of service. You have here a balanced and polarized view of the Creator; two services offered, mutually rejected, and in a state of equilibrium in which free will is preserved and each allowed to go upon its own path of experiencing the One Infinite Creator.

67.27 Questioner: Thank you. In closing that part of the discussion I would just say that if there is anything that we can do that is within our ability— and I understand that there are many things such as the ones that you just mentioned that are not within our ability— that we could do for this particular entity, if you would in the future communicate its requests to us we will at least consider them because we would like to serve in every respect. Is this agreeable to you?

Ra: I am Ra. We perceive that we have not been able to clarify your service versus its desire for service. You need, in our humble opinion, to look at the humor of the situation and relinquish your desire to serve where no service is requested. The magnet will attract or repel. Glory in the strength of your polarization and allow others of opposite polarity to similarly do so, seeing the great humor of this polarity and its complications in view of the unification in sixth density of these two paths.

If sending unsolicited Love and Light was a STS act, I am pretty sure it would not have a depolarizing effect upon the Orion friend. I am also pretty sure Ra would have mentioned it. Instead he seems to commend the group for their doing so. Even if a person does get personal fulfillment from doing so, why would that be a bad thing? STO does not mean you have to suffer.
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12-07-2020, 12:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2020, 12:48 PM by Kadoki.)
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(12-06-2020, 12:37 PM)Glow Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 11:23 AM)Namasteneko Wrote:  
(12-06-2020, 01:16 AM)Kadoki Wrote:  The harvest only started in 2020
The Catalyst is Ra discovering him/her self.

Would you elaborate on these further? I was always under the impression that the harvest was "now," during the time that Ra was channeling as well as sometime before and will be such after as well.

And please forgive my ignorance but I can't make sense of the second one. Seems like mind doesn't want to have any intellect this morning. ?

None of that post was accurate Law of One information.

Correct! I'm Roman Catholic and I've read every religion.. If you want to ask Ra some questions all you need is a Ouija board and some friends but you are talking to the dead and practicing witchcraft. Try thinking about Religion without turning your eyes away from the past. Look up Mind–body dualism, your body has another self.
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12-07-2020, 01:16 PM,
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Kadoki are you here because you enjoyed the Law of One material and it resonated?
I guess we should split this post if we are going to go off thread.

We are in the strictly Ra material Law of One subforum so discussion here specifically should be based in the information found in those books.
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12-07-2020, 05:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2020, 05:46 PM by Kadoki.)
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(12-07-2020, 01:16 PM)Glow Wrote:  Kadoki are you here because you enjoyed the Law of One material and it resonated?
I guess we should split this post if we are going to go off thread.

We are in the strictly Ra material Law of One subforum so discussion here specifically should be based in the information found in those books.

Sorry, I didn't understand the forum was only for direct material.

Thanks for letting me know! I won't post here again.

It does resonate with me because I haven't slept more than 2 hours a day in 10 years and realized I was channeling the Law of One with music.

24.10 Questioner: Could you state some of those after making the instrument cough, please?

Ra: [Cough.] I am Ra. This is information which you may discover. However, we will briefly point the way by indicating the so-called wheel within a wheel and the cherubim with sleepless eye.

I don't have anything to do really with Law of One, I just wanted to say the dates were channeled from this year. It's Capitalism (Pyramid Scheme) that is enslaving the population.
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12-07-2020, 06:06 PM,
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(12-07-2020, 05:13 PM)Kadoki Wrote:  
(12-07-2020, 01:16 PM)Glow Wrote:  Kadoki are you here because you enjoyed the Law of One material and it resonated?
I guess we should split this post if we are going to go off thread.

We are in the strictly Ra material Law of One subforum so discussion here specifically should be based in the information found in those books.

Sorry, I didn't understand the forum was only for direct material.

Thanks for letting me know! I won't post here again.

It does resonate with me because I haven't slept more than 2 hours a day in 10 years and realized I was channeling the Law of One with music.

24.10 Questioner: Could you state some of those after making the instrument cough, please?

Ra: [Cough.] I am Ra. This is information which you may discover. However, we will briefly point the way by indicating the so-called wheel within a wheel and the cherubim with sleepless eye.

I don't have anything to do really with Law of One, I just wanted to say the dates were channeled from this year. It's Capitalism (Pyramid Scheme) that is enslaving the population.

The metaphysical matters forum on Bring4th could be a better fit for that specific discussion.

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=9
I will pm you the link incase I have accidentally made you think I meant the entire forum if Bring4th was unsuitable, just this forum is specifically about the books details.

I can’t even imagine what 2 hours sleep a day for 10 years would be like. You have my empathy. And I’m sure that could easily put one into dream state while waking and could connect to lots of energies.

That must make for a difficult but unique experience.
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