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    12-12-2021, 01:07 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2021, 02:15 PM by zedro.)
    (12-12-2021, 03:04 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I think this pro- vs. anti-science culture war will be a long-term mess....

    Especially when the deception is that false dichotomy you present, the real question is, what is science, and who gets to say what it is. It's a battle of narratives driven by a war on individual conscience vs hierarchically enforced reality.

    Quote:First I think humanity needs to destroy the power of deceptive rhetoric if it is to be able to increase quality of thought in society and develop worthwhile philosophies much further. I think AI can be an answer to that, actually. Imagine a "spam filter" for manipulative patterns of communication, applied to all political discourse, and to the communications of governments and people in positions of power -- and also to screen all those who offer services and goods they claim will help others. Otherwise, there's the ancient problem that deception is produced much more quickly, and spread much more quickly, than it can be countered, dragging the overall level down terribly. I think technology is the only hope humanity has of growing past that obstacle. If the noise of bad rhetoric can be blocked like spam across society, so it no longer drags minds and hearts down, maybe something like a second enlightenment era and philosophy can then in turn fully develop and have an influence analogous to the first such historical period. Eventually there may be a bridging of the gap to a better spirituality.

    So abandon the seeking of intelligent infinity and replaced with an algorithm that is assumed to be neutral and not controlled by anyone, but everyone will be essentially subservient to the "truth for the greater good"? Edit: the AI entity now becomes God, all knowing of truth and judges all.

    What you describe is the result of one of 2 choices. I choose the opposite of any Centralized control system, or that of an AI based super-cult. I choose to eat organic lol.

    Edit: I also find it interesting that the conscription of an "AI God" is a substitute for personal seeking, the ultimate gatekeeper. What happens to those who choose not to follow this new artificial God? Is this not the same dichotomy as before, the centralization and control of truth through hierarchy, in lieu of acceptance and cooperation?

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    Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-14-2020, 12:57 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-15-2020, 12:16 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Foha - 04-15-2020, 03:28 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-26-2020, 01:36 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 04-26-2020, 02:09 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-29-2020, 10:30 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-16-2020, 08:37 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Patrick - 09-16-2020, 10:47 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-16-2020, 03:28 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-16-2020, 09:40 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 09-21-2020, 06:00 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-22-2020, 09:19 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 09-23-2020, 07:12 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Patrick - 09-23-2020, 08:21 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-23-2020, 12:57 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 09-23-2020, 05:37 PM
    Continuing the video game side-track - by meadow-foreigner - 01-04-2021, 06:48 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Ymarsakar - 09-23-2020, 06:39 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Aion - 09-26-2020, 01:16 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 01-10-2021, 07:28 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 12-12-2021, 03:04 AM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by zedro - 12-12-2021, 01:07 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-03-2022, 03:47 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Patrick - 12-12-2021, 04:06 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Lonebro - 07-03-2022, 04:50 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by omcasey - 07-04-2022, 02:55 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by Patrick - 07-05-2022, 09:43 PM
    RE: Falling upwards from Cassiopaea and landing here - by omcasey - 07-05-2022, 10:31 PM

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