Are you going to take the vaccine?

[Margan]

On a positive note, a friend of mine from Oregon (or rather, his wife) has actually been granted religious exemption - they are wicca (paganism) and wrote some paper to her employer (she works in retail and would have had to get the shot) that they only use naturopathic medicine and no allopathic treatment at all and explained this a bit and apparently it worked and she got the exemption.

[David_1]

Four brief videos that explain the situation.

https://tinyurl.com/bdh75xwk

[Diana]

Five parliament members of the European Union respond to the EU Commissioner's request to discuss mandatory vaccines:

[David_1]

Young people are 40 times more likely to die from vaccines than from Covid.
https://tinyurl.com/4hf9wnsb

Doctors report that in conversations with other doctors, they are now greatly concerned about the retribution they expect to face because some of them promoted the vaccines.

[Patrick]

Young people are 40 times more likely to die from vaccines than from Covid.
https://tinyurl.com/4hf9wnsb

Doctors report that in conversations with other doctors, they are now greatly concerned about the retribution they expect to face because some of them promoted the vaccines.

The choice of taking Covid vaccination should be based on risk vs benefits ratio. The younger you are the harder it becomes to justify that vaccination based on that ratio. If I were a family doctor, I would do my best to properly inform parents about that ratio regarding their children. Because the calculations of that ratio is a very personal thing of course and so is different for each person. But it looks like the very great majority of children, especially those around 5 years old, are falling in the category of "risk not worth taking" especially for boys.

In fact, this conundrum of social pressure put on our doctors has been an issue for quite a while and is not new because of Covid. As a planetary society, we have work to do in that regard. We have many imbalances to work on collectively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMYBu9cuAs&t=1m11s

There's a big IF highlighted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMYBu9cuAs&t=7m57s

[Scionagon]

Your body does not belong to your employer, your school, or your government. Remember this always, everyone.

[David_1]

Merry Christmas
Forgive the vaxxed.  They were deceived. 

124 pages of experimental vaccine related deaths and damage: (large file is slow in loading)
https://files.catbox.moe/vkazdp.pdf

Many videos of experimental vaccine damaged Americans
https://www.1000covidstories.com

Countless cases of covid vaccine-related deaths and injuries
https://thecovidblog.com

Hundreds of stories of vaccine deaths and damage
https://thecovidworld.com

Vaccine death and damage testimonies
https://www.theempoweror.com

Many dying shortly after taking experimental vaccine (March 2021)
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-02-s...ccine.html

Many die in UK after experimental vaccine (February 2021 article)
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/uk-gov...ccine.html

Parents speak out about their children dying from vaccines
https://www.dailyveracity.com/2021/06/17...-vaccines/

Compilation of vaccine-injured personal testimonials
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YgTBh0RFMudD/

Medical attorney says 45,000+ Americans dead from covid vaccines as of August 2021.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/over-4...mpaign=usa

Covid and vaccine news, updated daily
https://www.nojabforme.info

Hospital physician assistant exposes how vaccine injuries and deaths are being suppressed (Sept ’21, 1 hr)
https://rumble.com/vmncez-these-patients...lower.html

Video: Compilation of Vaccine Side Effects
https://www.bitchute.com/video/LlsfAwuF1Om5/

Side effects from Pfizer and Moderna experimental shots include kidney disorders and skin reactions (Aug '21)
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-12-n...tions.html

Girl gets clots in mouth and on skin after covid vaccine
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MTkOFPn6QvIc/

Local and regional media compilation of vaccine deaths and damage
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Cb66gAfHnIV1/

[the]

#VAERS tops 20K reports of death this week. Data now available on #OpenVAERS through 12-10-21. http://openvaers.com/covid-data

[Patrick]

Have you ever tried to meditate while drunk?

You can't do it.  

Never tried. But challenge accepted !

Looks like we either fall asleep or the idea does not even occur.

[Margan]

Have you ever tried to meditate while drunk?

You can't do it.  

Never tried. But challenge accepted !

Looks like we either fall asleep or the idea does not even occur.

How about meditating when drunk on love (Patrick   )
on another note, my neighbors this year have really ugly Xmas stars on their balcony. The other day I realized what they look like....
spike proteins 
Seems like the designers were subconsciously influenced by actual events

[the]

Pandemic of the Vaccinated: Two Studies Show New Evidence that Covid-19 Vaccines “Cause More Illness than They Prevent” https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12...s-prevent/

[flofrog]

on another note, my neighbors this year have really ugly Xmas stars on their balcony. The other day I realized what they look like....
spike proteins 
Seems like the designers were subconsciously influenced by actual events

Lol Margan, you make me laugh so much….

Happy new year, a soft and.. joyous one 


And to everyone here…

[unity100]

A lot of people seem to be projecting Angloamerican societies deregulated, corporate-controlled, profit-aimed hellscape to entire world. Entire world does not run on profit motive, and there are a lot of countries which have prepared and distributed their own vaccines and administered to their population successfully, practically ending the pandemic locally.

It is normal that especially denizens of Angloamerican countries have this strong distrust of their establishment and their corporations since the previous regulatory history of this legal landscape and the corporations inside it are pretty, pretty bad.

The fact that the vaccination campaign in the West has turned into a 'Pfizer marketing campaign' and basically the Pfizer vaccine is practically the only vaccine being provided, with all competitors being somehow sidelined, really raises suspicions.

However the US or the UK are not the world. If you are unable to trust the vaccines that are produced in Angloamerican countries, you can visit another country - especially the countries that are called 'third world' - and you can get a vaccine with a better reputation there. Of course if they provide them to foreigners by paying.

Also, non mRNA, more traditional vaccine called Novavax is soon to be available in the US and the West as far as I know. I think its not too dissimilar to the traditionally created vaccines like Chinese Sinovac etc. That may be an option for those in the US and the rest of the West.

[Diana]

This is a US senate hearing with a panel of experts. It's long. But it is offering something beyond the mainstream censorship, propaganda, and push to comply. People should be aware of the risk vs. efficacy of the vaccines in order to make informed decisions—especially regarding children and now babies. 



There was a rally in Washington last Sunday (I think that was the day) to defeat the mandates. Here is an impassioned speech by Dr. Robert Malone, developer of the original mRNA technology.

[Patrick]

Absolutely Diana. It is unfortunate that this whole thing has now become too much politicized.

Videos such as this one can help understand things better.

Boosters for the young and healthy? Is Pharma dictating public health policy? What's up with VAERS? Did Robert Malone invent the mRNA technology? AND MORE.

We can now see comments such as this one:

Yeah, my trust in public health is basically gone, I don’t trust anything the CDC says and I’m a nurse.

Trust is really the issue and politicizing this thing has hurt a lot in that department.

[IndigoSalvia]

I notice the current events and politics sub-forum was closed. https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=19234

"This guideline and the closure of this subforum is intended to help bring the focus of such discussions into spirit, allowing it to be linked to the process of spiritual evolution and the eternal truths of love and unity, instead of the controversial, polarizing, and murky details of politics."

I wasn't a member when this happened, so don't know how this closure came about. 

How are we, as a community, linking this global pandemic and its catalyst to the "process of spiritual evolution and the eternal truths of love and unity, instead of the controversial, polarizing, and murky details of politics?"

Just wondering ...

[Patrick]

We are winging it mostly.

Definition of wing it

informal. : to do or try to do something without much practice or preparation I hadn't practiced the part, so I got up there and winged it.

At the moment, we are simply asking members not to flood the forums with new threads on transient material and to prioritize using existing threads, such as this one, when commenting on transient/political material, such as the Covid crisis.

The idea is to keep the main focus of the forums on the spiritual side of things. But of course it is understood that the spiritual side of things does not exclude what is currently happening on this planet.

So like I said, we are winging it...

[Diana]

I notice the current events and politics sub-forum was closed. https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=19234

"This guideline and the closure of this subforum is intended to help bring the focus of such discussions into spirit, allowing it to be linked to the process of spiritual evolution and the eternal truths of love and unity, instead of the controversial, polarizing, and murky details of politics."

I wasn't a member when this happened, so don't know how this closure came about. 

How are we, as a community, linking this global pandemic and its catalyst to the "process of spiritual evolution and the eternal truths of love and unity, instead of the controversial, polarizing, and murky details of politics?"

Just wondering ...

This is a good question.

The situation of Covid and its iterations and the emergency-use vaccines is quite different than the often farcical situations of who is running for president—democrat or republican, and its "murky details." There are indeed "murky details" in the covid/vaccine scenario, but these details relate in a big way to the free will of the people on this planet and what rights they have as humans. (I am not saying who runs for president does not have these implications, but the scale is widely different). 

For me, truth matters. I do not regard censorship as supporting truth or choice. Choice is central to 3d according to Ra...the choice of course being STS or STO. But choice is choice, and whatever inhibits choice—which is an attribute of STS manipulation—is limiting free will to choose. 

I personally (and this is just me, and I honor whatever anyone else does in the spirit of consciousness or spiritual evolution for themselves) see this global health issue of Covid-19 (created in a lab for "gain of function") as having been highly politicized. So how does one keep the politics out of this? I'm all for not getting caught up in the maelstrom, but I don't ignore what goes on in this world either when it comes to the issue of free will.

I do get the idea of only focusing on "lifting the vibrations" or "adding light" here. But I personally prefer that to be an informed endeavor, not one that ignores reality (by that I mean an open-minded overview of this existence). In addition, this is a gigantic catalyst for the world right now, and I see no reason to censor canvassing it here (within the guidelines). 

People are facing all kinds of catalyst due to the political ramifications of the virus and the vaccines. Is not catalyst and its role in our lives a huge part of the spiritual study here? This is arguably the biggest global catalyst we have seen in our lives—unless someone here is old enough to have been around when the US devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Finally, the division that is happening now between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated really does speak to the idea of the LOO and unity. And, although I am detached from the decisions others make for themselves, I will say I do feel sad for the children who do not have decision-making abilities regarding themselves.

[zedro]

Yes there is definitely a meta-analysis of 'politic' and action (the so called transient aspects) that directly relates to a spiritual interpretation. I believe as we get on the other side of the veil, there will be deep academic study into our history and how it relates to polarity and karmic action. The transient matters are important in deciphering spiritual matters, because the experience is key in spiritual evolution. Simply dismissing the transient is a mistake, and completely ignores the 21 archetypes that define the 3rd density process. Book 3 seems to be the most ignored and misunderstood teachings from the LOO material, yet it is the deepest, and is inseparable from the transient because it inherently defines it.

[IndigoSalvia]

I get it: we can't divorce the physical and the metaphysical experiences. We take our 3D experiences and translate those into spiritual experiences, or vice versa.

I enjoyed reading the recent Quo channeling re covid, and how inflowing 4D energies play a role. It made me think of trial by fire. Or, like covid may act like a separating event, like wheat from chaff. These aren't great analogies because it implies judgment of "good" and "bad." But, like separating wheat from chaff, there will be a harvest and some will graduate, some will repeat, etc.

[flofrog]

the interesting thing is that if Covid may well act as a separating event, I am not sure that it means that there is a right choice or wrong choice about the vaccine. I think what comes into place, as in all choices, is how this choice makes sense to the Self on how it is made. Whether it is made from fear or from love.

[omcasey]

I enjoyed reading the recent Quo channeling re covid, and how inflowing 4D energies play a role.

Can someone please link me to this? ( thanks!! )

[zedro]

the interesting thing is that if Covid may well act as a separating event, I am not sure that it means that there is  a right choice or wrong choice about the vaccine. I think what comes into place, as in all choices, is how this choice makes sense to the Self on how it is made. Whether it is made from fear or from love.

Exactly, shot or no shot makes no difference to polarity, it is your relationship to others via that catalyst that does. This is why the so-called dividing line isn't really vax/anti-vax, but essentially mandates/anti-mandates. It is primarily a 3rd ray issue (mandates), not a 2nd ray issue (personal medical choices). The whole covid scenario to me feels perfectly crafted for the 'big test' during harvesting; do I force compliance over others (3rd ray negative polarity) to satisfy my 1st/2nd ray distortions/conditions? Or do I live in acceptance/forgiveness and protect the free will/choices of others? The STS agents will have STO people believe that compliance to a given narrative (science/politics) is love/unity, but it's the exact opposite. And so people argue about scientific validity/data of vaccines, masks and social controls, rather than the actual spiritual aspects of what it signifies in action.

The graduation of the densities is linked to the 'mastering' of it's associated ray, I.e. 1st density>1st ray,  2d>2nd ray, 3d>3rd ray, etc. So while it's nice to navel gaze at the 4th ray (to which we cannot fully understand), it's really the 3rd ray and lower we should be looking at, because it is what's important now. You cannot achieve the 4th ray goal by ignoring the lower ray journey. It is the definition of spiritual bypassing.

[flofrog]

I enjoyed reading the recent Quo channeling re covid, and how inflowing 4D energies play a role.

Can someone please link me to this? ( thanks!! )

Here omcasey,

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/0105

[Patrick]

Indeed, it is not about ignoring the lower rays, but rather about the alchemy that happens to perception when 4th is allowed to merge and do its magic with the others.

[IndigoSalvia]

the interesting thing is that if Covid may well act as a separating event, I am not sure that it means that there is  a right choice or wrong choice about the vaccine. I think what comes into place, as in all choices, is how this choice makes sense to the Self on how it is made. Whether it is made from fear or from love.

Exactly, shot or no shot makes no difference to polarity, it is your relationship to others via that catalyst that does. This is why the so-called dividing line isn't really vax/anti-vax, but essentially mandates/anti-mandates. It is primarily a 3rd ray issue (mandates), not a 2nd ray issue (personal medical choices). The whole covid scenario to me feels perfectly crafted for the 'big test' during harvesting; do I force compliance over others (3rd ray negative polarity) to satisfy my 1st/2nd ray distortions/conditions? Or do I live in acceptance/forgiveness and protect the free will/choices of others? The STS agents will have STO people believe that compliance to a given narrative (science/politics) is love/unity, but it's the exact opposite. And so people argue about scientific validity/data of vaccines, masks and social controls, rather than the actual spiritual aspects of what it signifies in action.

The graduation of the densities is linked to the 'mastering' of it's associated ray, I.e. 1st density>1st ray,  2d>2nd ray, 3d>3rd ray, etc. So while it's nice to navel gaze at the 4th ray (to which we cannot fully understand), it's really the 3rd ray and lower we should be looking at, because it is what's important now. You cannot achieve the 4th ray goal by ignoring the lower ray journey. It is the definition of spiritual bypassing.

Thank you both F and Z. 

After my dance with fear early on in the pandemic, I stepped back, and found love waiting patiently for me to notice it. I have found myself watching from the sidelines, mostly, at this global event. It's almost like watching many flavors/colors of energies dance a dance of struggle and love. 

I had forgotten about it in terms of orange to yellow, but I see that again now. 

It's quite fascinating to watch the myriad (infinite) resonances and choices that arise in each of one of us, and how all are unique. 

Though I said in another post that in general my daily life doesn't feel like a test ... it is one of practice. However, I amend this instrument.    This pandemic, to me, does feel like a take-home test.

[the]

on one hand, this video will make a lot of people upset . on the other hand, this video maybe the hope for new vaccine injury treatment . now we know some features of nano c19 vaccine caused blood clots. e.g. they are strong, like rubber, connected together ,even has the length of leg. that is, doctors maybe able to pull it out of vein directly. i'm not a doctor. once doctor saw it, they might be able to provide better treatment. so if you are doctor or have connection to other doctors, if you provide this video to those doctors, they might be able to help a lot of patients. this is the video: Worldwide Exclusive: Embalmers Find Veins & Arteries Filled with Never Before Seen Rubbery Clots https://rumble.com/vtcsgw-worldwide-excl...r-bef.html