03-12-2021, 04:17 PM
As promised, here are my replies.
I was not aware of being an empath. Is that in relation to me talking about how I use my intuition ? I actually kind of like the idea of being an empath, but I never considered being one.
Is that because if I had dug deep enough I would have inevitably reached the same conclusions you did ?
I would have thought that I had zero experience and skill as an empath. I do not feel emotions of others around me.
For me that is quite simple, I just don't know any better. But I would remove the word "internal" from guidance. I believe my guidance system to be a team. Sometimes it seems to be made of legions of helpers. Just a feeling I have, I have no abilities of knowing this and I have no obvious ways of communicating with them either. The Ear Tones are not that helpful in context. I miss the point they try to make very often.
Actually, I put myself in "danger", as you say, quite gladly. I like being challenged with new ideas. Those close to me often believe me to actually experience cognitive dissonance because of my openness to new ideas. It allows me to evolve much quicker. There is a small core that is unmovable inside me though. I take it to be restrictions I put in place before incarnation, but I have no way of really knowing this.
I do not avoid negative sources of information. People around here could attest that I even study them (to their dismay sometimes). I judge for my own self only which parts are good or not for me.
Are you meaning that if I did not reach the same conclusions you did from that information, that it then automatically follows that I misused the source ?
The separation or rejection you speak of is inherent in the process of seeking. We all expose ourselves to many catalysts that we then reject. They will come back again for another opportunity. I do not believe we are expected to succeed on our first try with all catalysts presented. In fact, I remember Q'uo explicitly telling us that we are expected to fail.
These things you speak of at the beginning of that quote did not exist for me at the beginning of this incarnation. They only manifested after the inner work had been done. And the way I work on my chakras is just the plain old method of working with everyday catalysts and trying to make good use of it. Reading the Ra material has been extremely helpful in that area.
I would not say that I surpass/bypass the heart and the blue. I'm happy with how my green is for the time being and I am working on blue-ray where I need a lot of work indeed.
Yes I would think the plan of 3d is pretty much just taking tests. The veil enables very efficient use of testing. As I mentioned before, I believe we come here to see how we will react while not knowing the consequences that our choices will have on others. Ra/Q'uo calls this learning the ways of Love.
And yes, our fellow brothers and sisters are mostly unaware that they are here for making those choices or passing those tests. On this forum many people are aware of this fact and are then able to make better use of the situation.
This is to be expected. Many entities will take that opportunity to program tests for themselves that might not be possible to do on a planet where people are more aware of why they are there. I think the function of 3d per se would still work quite well even if they knew. You would still not know what the full consequences of your choices are on others.
I would say that if you know why you are here, then it is because you've outgrown not knowing. Otherwise, the person would not find their way to such things as the Ra material. This is a sort of gift that the self gives to itself when the deeper work that requires not knowing has been done.
Ok and I would say that otherwise, it would kind of defeat the purpose of coming here.
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We spoke a lot about me on here. I do hope others will still find something useful that applies to them. As you know, I would prefer we focused on the concepts themselves more fully. But if this is more inline with the expectations you have for me, I will do my best to continue providing that service for you.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "For me that is not a question of asking for proof. It is so that I can have a chance of following the same thought process my interlocutor did to arrive at their conclusions. Without this I only have the much shorter statements we exchange here to go on with."
There are many empaths like you who have done what you have done here. You find some information that does not resonate with you, but you don't really dig at it to figure out why that is so or even why the resonance is very negative but it is not positive so you categorize it as "not good". This is a very common phenomenon in empaths that are less skilled and experienced...
I was not aware of being an empath. Is that in relation to me talking about how I use my intuition ? I actually kind of like the idea of being an empath, but I never considered being one.
Is that because if I had dug deep enough I would have inevitably reached the same conclusions you did ?
I would have thought that I had zero experience and skill as an empath. I do not feel emotions of others around me.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Why do they always think the emotions they feel are coming from their own internal guidance and themselves? Most of the emotions you feel as an empath comes from outside of you, is that not the case? ...
For me that is quite simple, I just don't know any better. But I would remove the word "internal" from guidance. I believe my guidance system to be a team. Sometimes it seems to be made of legions of helpers. Just a feeling I have, I have no abilities of knowing this and I have no obvious ways of communicating with them either. The Ear Tones are not that helpful in context. I miss the point they try to make very often.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Or is your life so imbalanced at the sacral, root, and solar plexus that you would be endangered by being confronted with information that challenges your preconceptions and pre chosen beliefs and faith? Is it not faith strengthened by undergoing challenges?...
Actually, I put myself in "danger", as you say, quite gladly. I like being challenged with new ideas. Those close to me often believe me to actually experience cognitive dissonance because of my openness to new ideas. It allows me to evolve much quicker. There is a small core that is unmovable inside me though. I take it to be restrictions I put in place before incarnation, but I have no way of really knowing this.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Why would thus "negative sources of information" be something you need to avoid as not good for you?...
I do not avoid negative sources of information. People around here could attest that I even study them (to their dismay sometimes). I judge for my own self only which parts are good or not for me.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...
This is a type of separation or rejection of catalyst. You asked for something, it was given to you, but you didn't make very well use of it. I am not referring to any video or links you provided, as I don't remember. I am referring to the links others have provided, such as https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...#pid290716 DAVID.
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Are you meaning that if I did not reach the same conclusions you did from that information, that it then automatically follows that I misused the source ?
The separation or rejection you speak of is inherent in the process of seeking. We all expose ourselves to many catalysts that we then reject. They will come back again for another opportunity. I do not believe we are expected to succeed on our first try with all catalysts presented. In fact, I remember Q'uo explicitly telling us that we are expected to fail.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...
This catalyst I refer to, is a type of initiation test described by q'uo and others. To level up in the chakra system, you need to constantly rebalance things. Even if you are in a state of peaceful manifestation, where your root chakra is taken care of by your abundance or prosperity, you ahve good interpsonal relationships of peace and calm via the sacral chakra, and you have a specific useful role in society solar plexus style, that does not mean you can so easily surpass the heart and the voice blue chakra.
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These things you speak of at the beginning of that quote did not exist for me at the beginning of this incarnation. They only manifested after the inner work had been done. And the way I work on my chakras is just the plain old method of working with everyday catalysts and trying to make good use of it. Reading the Ra material has been extremely helpful in that area.
I would not say that I surpass/bypass the heart and the blue. I'm happy with how my green is for the time being and I am working on blue-ray where I need a lot of work indeed.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...
It just means you are now qualified to take the test for the next step. Many humans are "taking tests" right now, but they don't realize it. They think it is something external to themselves. This is all part of the Plan.
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Yes I would think the plan of 3d is pretty much just taking tests. The veil enables very efficient use of testing. As I mentioned before, I believe we come here to see how we will react while not knowing the consequences that our choices will have on others. Ra/Q'uo calls this learning the ways of Love.
And yes, our fellow brothers and sisters are mostly unaware that they are here for making those choices or passing those tests. On this forum many people are aware of this fact and are then able to make better use of the situation.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...
If humanity, whether individually or collectively, realized that they were taking a test and that the proctors were watching them, this would imbalance the test results, as some people will seek to share the results or get it from a previous class. Others will not act naturally and do things they otherwise would not do, because they know the yare being tested. They act differently because the yrealize the proctors are watching them. The cheaters stop cheating. We want to see cheaters try to cheat.
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This is to be expected. Many entities will take that opportunity to program tests for themselves that might not be possible to do on a planet where people are more aware of why they are there. I think the function of 3d per se would still work quite well even if they knew. You would still not know what the full consequences of your choices are on others.
I would say that if you know why you are here, then it is because you've outgrown not knowing. Otherwise, the person would not find their way to such things as the Ra material. This is a sort of gift that the self gives to itself when the deeper work that requires not knowing has been done.
(03-12-2021, 08:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...
Part of the inability to integrate and unify consciousness, that Aion referred to once above, is to prevent humans from different grades from exchanging answers. So Patrick cannot give his balanced root chakra of abundance state, to other people, irregardless of who exercises their "free will right to know". Zed and others here like Agua, cannot telepathically transmit their theories and ideas and evidence to others here, instantly convincing them of the Unified Theory. Words are distorted, meanings are mistranslated, passages are missed. This is not the fault of any single individual. On the contrary, it is part of the Divine Plan. It is going as planned. Tower of Babel/Confusion/Law of Confusion. The words express themselves literally do they not?
The right to know is balanced and contested by the right to NOT know.
P.S. FYI I am speaking only to those actively engaged in writing here. So unlike others here, I am not attempting to direct my comments to lurkers or passing readers. There is no need for me to do that at this time and place.
Ok and I would say that otherwise, it would kind of defeat the purpose of coming here.
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We spoke a lot about me on here. I do hope others will still find something useful that applies to them. As you know, I would prefer we focused on the concepts themselves more fully. But if this is more inline with the expectations you have for me, I will do my best to continue providing that service for you.