03-21-2021, 01:20 PM
(03-21-2021, 08:23 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "Why does something being funded by taxes 'controls the mind'."
This goes back to Q'uo and Confederation sources talking about money and the root cause of disease. The energy becomes blocked and imbalanced.
What does taxes have to do with root cause of diseases. The reason for decline of lifespan and increase in diseases in 2nd cycle was told to be people starting to see each other as things to use and exploit. That happens in private economy where people profit off of each other. Worse in corporations where people are replaceable cogs which must be worked to death with little pay and then discarded to maximize profits.
Quote:The logic train is not that those that are funded by taxes, controls the mind, but that NPR controls thinking, and they just happen to be funded by mandatory taxation. There are many ways to control people's thoughts and perspectives, without using mandatory taxation for example.
With that logic, everything controls the mind. Every single publication.
Quote:Jafar mentioned how Chinese central banks issue loans and then just not bother to ask for it back if the person they are loaning money to, is useful to the cause.
There is no such thing in China. Bureaucratic process is meticulous. Everything must be shown in records and they must be in order before every reporting cycle.
Quote:Much like a telephone game, the logic would be that trance channeling is more pure because the people delivering the message are not conscious of the meaning of the msg so they pass it on without filtering it much.
The conscious mind then has to reinterpret the message via human language, which adds another "chain" to the telephone game. The msg is now being repeated across another layer or person. That person is not in trance nor are they non trance channeling.
Thats pretty much it.
Quote:If the information degrades between trance vs non trance channeling, then what about when passed through a person's conscious mind that filters it?
The mind complex. Conscious and subconscious. They are the window of the entity to the planet they live in, including the social complex they live inside. The window is almost entirely shaped by the existing social complex and its paradigms. It understands, interprets things through that shape. It thinks through that shape. It cannot even understand things which are outside the capabilities of the shape it was given to it by the social complex and the planetary conditions. So when a telephatic concept is transmitted in conscious channeling, it tries to fit what's incoming into a shape that is understandable to it so it can put it into actual words. And when that happens, it naturally is filtered through the existing knowledge and biases, ie, the shape of the conscious channeler's mind.
In trance channeling, you remove the mind of the channeler from the process. The mind of the visiting entity, which is shaped entirely in its own reality, and which is able to transmit the concepts as they are, enters the body of the channeler. It is very uncomfortable for the entity because its mind is now inside a body and an entire social/planetary reality to which it is not shaped for. Hence the difficulties and many tribulations during Ra contact. But the end result is an incomparably clearer channeling. There is an advantage of the visiting entity being able to use the subconscious of the channeler in order to translate concepts into the visited reality's terms. As can be seen in Ra material a lot. But in this case of usage of subconscious, the choices of concepts from the subconscious are conscious and intentional, instead of being automatic and unconscious like in conscious channeling.
Quote:If they are Confederation trance channels, then what common basis or factual reference would be necessary? Isn't the whole point of trance, that there is NO conscious understanding of these subjects so no way to filter it through common factual basis/references?
I was referring to not channelings or confederation with that comment, but to the people who just accept/reject whatever reference they were given based on their own personal biases. When they dislike something, they just reject it. When they like something, they just accept it, even if it is a lie or it is built on shaky grounds.
Such behavior makes everything subjective and it totally eliminates any productive discussion.