04-26-2021, 03:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-26-2021, 04:07 PM by Patrick.
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(04-26-2021, 02:29 PM)zedro Wrote: "Science could be our salvation if we collectively wanted to."
No, this is the problem, this is the religion of science, this is the premise/hope that is blinding people. Love is the only viable salvation, science is just a process, one tool for certain discoveries, it cannot tell us how to act.
Do you believe in Science? Do you believe in Music? That's how silly I view that question or declaration. When someone says the 'believe' in it, it's from a religious perspective, something that defines objective reality to them without question, and informs them how to act through the 'leaders' of the field. That exactly is the purpose/mechanism behind religion, and what has fooled humanity forever.
You want the 4th? Science as it's viewed today (a technocracy) is a premise you need to let go of, and view it for what it actually should be, simply an act/process of discovery of the 'natural world', and not something that tells us how to live and act.
We are mostly in agreement, but it seems some preconceptions are preventing you from seeing it.
Within the scientific circles, there is no actual consensus on what science actually is. So I think any such discussions needs first to established what science means. To me that word only speaks of a process and that process actually has many different versions. The version that I subscribe to is Karl Popper's version of the scientific process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper
Quote:...scientists can never prove a theory to be true, Popper insisted, because the next test might contradict all that preceded it. Observations can only disprove a theory, or falsify it...
The scientific method is just a tool that can inform on how nature behaves. It's not even useful in informing on the nature of reality.
So there is nothing for me to disbelieve. It's like asking me if I believe in mathematics or if I believe in hammers, forks or swords.
Where the scientific process can be our salvation is by following Popper's version we could make it impossible for STS to play their games with us. Their lies could not stand. What STS did to prevent this from thwarting their plans was to pitch spirituality against the scientific process and to use their most useful tool, the concept of money, to instigate the bane of science that we call consensus science by making it too costly to do science properly.
A true technocracy would quickly lead to a spiritual technocracy where materialism, which happens to have been disproven for many years now, is a thing of the past. We could study empirically all the concepts of the Law of One and come up with methods for adepts that are always reproducible, failsafe, completely understood and well documented. That IS what 4D actually is. It's the density of understanding.
There is nothing wrong with that. But personally I prefer to help this planet evolve in the way the people chose. I am not here to change their choice. I am here to infuse positivity in all the world's endeavor and ensure the ultimate positive outcome of whatever method was chosen.
I am here to love the world. So I am here to love science too. There is Love in the moment. There is Love in the scientific process too.