04-27-2021, 10:20 AM
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "Once people realizes how ridiculous the concept of money is, we can work on the next steps."
But the scientists need money to live, to eat, to do work, to do their research. How exactly can you convince them that what they need is ridiculous?
It's not what they need that is ridiculous. It's that they need this thing called money to get what they need that is ridiculous. That ridiculous money thing will have to be used until we are done putting everything in place for us to stop using it. Like automating 100% of everything that can be, until with the advancement of tech, all can be automated and is.
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "It's an internal process that people will go through, but it starts with discussing it and raising awareness."
If it is an internal process, then there is no point talking about it or adopting their mainstream science. As it won't affect their internal progress either way.
People are not going to start any internal process regarding this if they are not even aware that they might want to do that. Most people have no idea that money is only a tool for evil and that nothing good can come out of it.
So raising awareness and talking about it is needed and useful.
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "This work is the stuff of decades if not centuries."
Human civilization is not going to last that long at this rate.
As you know, I am hopelessly optimistic. So it will not only last until it becomes a 4D civilization, but everything will start being better along the way. In part due to people talking about it and holding that intent high.
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "but it starts with discussing it and raising awareness."
Before awareness can be raised, mind control and social media tech tyrants prevent it from being discussed.
Sure, it's their obvious move. But we are raising awareness anyway and at some point these STS control structures will start loosing their grasp. In fact that is already happening because many are helping to raise awareness of these control structures (which all happens to be rooted in the concept of money, by the way).
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "Where science comes into this is that it has already been demonstrated empirically that we are in a post-scarcity society"
That's only a theoretical and mathematical construct. It does not exist for the actual scientists and mathematicians. To you, it may exist, but you'd have to prove or convince other humans that it exists.
Any testable hypothesis remains valid until it fails a test and needs to be replaced with a better one. All proper testing so far has failed in disproving that we are in a post-scarcity society. There are a lot of research ongoing on the subject of resource distribution without money. Stuff like reverse-accounting being a very useful stopgap measure on the road to ditching money.
Also, it is not all theoretical, there are ongoing experiments. For example, experiments with Universal Basic Income.
So if it did not already exists for actual scientists and mathematicians, there would not be any books written on the subject or ongoing experiment. But we do have these.
(04-27-2021, 09:36 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "Nearly all that STS has built is standing on this concept of money, so it is the one thing that needs to be released in order to make them completely powerless in one sweep."
A Solar flash that destroys all technology, would also destroy modern finance systems. So what actual physical solution are you thinking of here?
Instead of destroying all technology, you redirect all technology to serve us. You automate absolutely everything, starting with food production.
The beauty of it is that for financial reasons, the Elites are automating things anyway. They think they'll be able to control how that goes, but they are deluding themselves. It will escape them and end up serving humanity. Once everything is automated, people will work less and less and have more time to think about stuff like the Law of One. Until at some point no one is required to earn anything, every required resources being available to all.