08-05-2021, 08:06 AM
(08-04-2021, 05:24 PM)Patrick Wrote:(08-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: Why did you take the vaccine? Was it to save society?
Having already got Covid at the beginning, I took it primarily to give a good example to those around me. I also took it because I like to experiment.
(08-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: Some people do not want to inject themselves with an experimental drug. I cannot possibly save the world at large by receiving an experimental vaccination or my family or even myself from "death".
I understand this reason very well. If I had not confidence in the preliminary results, I would have waited as well.
Of course, at this present moment, this experiment is no longer one. The standard 3 phase trials were done and the emergency use authorization has resulted in a phase 4 trial of massive proportion. I don't think we ever had so much data on so many different people for any trials. So at this time, this stage 4 trial is a massive success and has much more data than any other things the regulatory agencies ever approved before.
(08-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: I mean you do know that someday you are going to die and have you ever considered that your death has already been planned just like your birth has been planned? ... I mean you do realize that the way in which you will die is planned, right?
I do yes.
(08-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: Let's assume this is true. I do not want to put anything into my body that I do not know its long term effects. I do not take the flu vaccination or the pneumonia vaccination why in the heck would I consider something that was created in less than one year?
I understand this and this is where risk assessment comes in. So far the virus has demonstrated more long term issues than the vaccines, much more so.
If it's a question of time, out of curiosity, how long would it take for you to feel this is safe for you? Because as far as I know, it is only a question of time before every human catches the virus. So really the choice is catching the virus with or without prior vaccination.
(08-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: It is great that you do not mind to put an experimental drug into your body and that you feel like an altruistic individual by doing so but I cannot get on board with any of those illogical reasons for doing such a thing. In my eyes it is not altruistic nor could it possibly be a way to extend your life or anyone else's.
I will admit that extending my life or protecting myself was never one of my reasons for getting vaccinated. The altruistic part was just in giving a good example to my peers. Mostly the altruism is in a loving and confident attitude towards all the good things in life.
I do not fear for my life or the life of others. I dislike the needless suffering of others. Dying is not an issue in my opinion, but staying alive while suffering needlessly is something I dislike and am still working on accepting.
Wow there's a lot to unpack here.
I also had Cov-19 it was like having a really bad sinus infection. The worst thing was feeling tired all the time.
We cannot know the long term effects of a virus that has been here a year and a half as you said that the virus has more long term effects than the shot. We would need to wait about a decade for that data to speak because this is how they "generally" study vaccines. They do not study a vaccine in less than a year (of which they did not study it, they created it in less than a year, supposedly). When you ask how much more study do I need, are you referring to the study done on half the world's population? And the answer is, at least one decade.
I understand that you do not like "needless suffering". Who are you to say that this world has no karma in which to balance? This is largely causing what you say is needless suffering. That is very pompous and arrogant of you to try to take the much needed lessons away or lessen them for anyone. The reason why we suffer is because we do not want to be uncomfortable and we make choices toward comfort and ego based decisions and this causes suffering. No one likes or enjoys to see another suffer but is there another way to eleviate the suffering besides the realization of our own ignorance? The wages of sin are death....meaning; the wages of errored, ego-based thinking will cause one to enter into the cycles of life and death.
You being a martyr for your peers will not eleviate anything. Being a martyr is not a good example, being wise with an open heart is a good example and allowing others to make their own decisions while supporting them is good council. I would not get a vaccination for anyone I loved. They may do as they wish, I support that with an open heart.
To demonstrate wisdom is not done like this while showing the world you foolishly love all with no regard to yourself is not balanced. What is balanced is like I said offering good council from the heart and wisdom.
I have more questions...
Why do you feel people suffer? Why do you think people have been locked into 3rd density earth cycles? What is the cause of your own suffering? Can I eleviate your suffering? And how? How can you personally stop the suffering of mankind or even your peers? I am not speaking of you holding the light for them within the central part of the body, or thinking or intending that something is good when clearly it is bad or comes from a bad place.