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(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: So anyone who believes that the vaccine may harm them is acting out of fear, but those who believe that the vaccine is 'salvation' from harm is acting out of love?
No, like I said the mainstream narrative is fear-based as well. That is how they justify the control measures, because they fear the virus and the unvaccinated.
(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: How is this not a projection of one's own fears onto others who have the counter view for their own health?
I do not share their fear of the virus or of the unvaccinated. As I do not share the fear of vaccination from the anti-vaccination movement.
(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: This denies people their own inner guidance by assuming they are purely acting from outside (fear based) influence, it's interesting that you do not give the same logical path that you assign yourself.
As everyone else, I have indeed my own views about anything and everything. I have my own judgement which I use only towards making my own personal decisions.
But what makes you believe this denies anyone else their own personal views? I do not impose my judgment calls onto others.
The majority of information shared in this thread against vaccination is fear-based as far as I can discern. I know some people are not getting vaccinated simply because they do not believe they need it or maybe because it is too strongly attached to big pharma and stuff like that. Their reasons for not getting vaccinated are not necessarily fear-based. I am making that comment about the information that is shared in this thread against vaccination (the narrative). That information is fear-based in my opinion.
(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: Again you assign yourself the benefit of seeing the Grey areas, and not others who disagree. How many people have to make the statement that the vax/virus is an individually based catalyst with varying individuated consequences, how is that not seeing the spectrum?
You asked the question: "I'm curious to whom still supports this and thinks this is all rational and for the "greater good"".
So I'm just opening a window into my thought processes in order to answer that question and in case anyone else is interested. It is also in order for readers to be aware that not everyone is against vaccination in these forums.
But while I do assign myself that benefit of having a wide point of view, why would you believe I am in any way denying the same of others?
(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: It's interesting that one can realize the source and implementation of a technology can be born from a desire to control, yet somehow not consider that energetic attachment doesn't work itself into the product itself. Because what I observe is the direct manifestation of that.
Pardon me if I misunderstood your meaning here, but I do not believe vaccines are born from a desire to control.
(11-14-2021, 11:08 AM)zedro Wrote: And it seems unfathomable how you cannot discern where the Love is, because you default (ironically) to a black or white supposition: vaccination saves and so is love, not getting vaccinated harms and so is fear. Take away that narrative you subscribe to, and it becomes apparent that everyone is acting out of love for others and themselves, unless one believes in controlling others in either circumstance.
It seems you are trying to put words into my mouth. I do not believe that not getting vaccinated harms anyone in anyway whatsoever. If you have a headache and do not take Acetaminophen to alleviate it, why would that harm anyone else? I see vaccination in the same light. Not taking it is not going to harm anyone.
I am aware that Love is behind all of our actions. I do see that. Yet it does not mean I can see the whole path Love takes for everyone. For example, in the instance of someone being tortured to death, I might not be able to see what pathways Love is taking. Maybe the victim loves the torturer so much that he agreed to this before the incarnation just so the torturer could be able to feel the pleasure of torturing someone. Only Love is acting here, Love of self at the expense of others and love of others up to the ultimate sacrifice.
All I am saying is that all catalysts, big or small, are fabricated by the Universe in order to move us. What will be the motivations behind our movement? I did mention my belief that those sharing the information against vaccination are doing this out of Love for others and in order to protect others from what they believe is a grave threat.
We are all "misguided" to some extent, but that does not matter much. Our guidance is not guiding us directly toward Truth per se, it is only guiding us towards the roads we need to travel in order to learn what we came here to learn. So I am not worried one way or another. All is well. We are all going to end up within Truth whatever roads we traveled.