11-28-2021, 03:14 PM
(11-28-2021, 11:55 AM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote:(11-28-2021, 11:33 AM)Patrick Wrote:(11-28-2021, 01:40 AM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote:
- Vaccinated individuals for Covid can still get sick with the virus, have a viral load, be vessels for a mutating virus, and spread the virus: https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/...ted-people
- There have been experimental studies that show that leaky vaccines (of which Covid vaccines are which is why there are breakthrough cases and a need for boosters) actually can cause evolutionary pressure on the virus to select for variants that are more virulent: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/ar...io.1002198
While this might very well be true. It is important to remember that if everyone was vaccinated the R would be way under 1 and virus circulation would exponentially slow down. So in the end there would be much less chances for mutations to happen overall.
Could you provide a source for this? If the viral load is equal between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, then it means mutation possibilities are equal. The only difference I see would be that unvaccinated would be more likely to know when they have potential for spreading the virus due to symptoms while the unvaccinated would be more likely to spread the virus due to lack of knowledge of having the virus.
It has been demonstrated many times already that we can't really argue with each others. There is simply no common ground for this. No common trust for each other's sources.
All we are basically doing here is having two distinct conversations and we get confused because we think we are somehow talking about related things. But while we are sharing the same space and time, we are no longer living in the same reality it seems to me.
(11-28-2021, 02:37 PM)David_1 Wrote: There is a photo above of Fauci getting a shot.
He has clearly said that is was faked.
Not in my reality.