08-14-2021, 03:52 PM

(08-14-2021, 05:09 AM)Anders Wrote:(08-14-2021, 04:39 AM)tadeus Wrote: Maybe infinity is just an idea in the consciousness of the one creator that we are part of.

Yes, that's similar to my new idea. That infinity cannot exist as in an infinite number of things. And that infinity is a potential. And that potential is real and exists. Consciousness then is that potential observing the infinite possible manifestation of itself. And that's Intelligent Infinity which is required for the creation to be manifested.

Associating infinity with potential is helpful, in my opinion. Although, I might present a distinction between known potential and unknown potential. One can see infinity in this context as representing the unknown or that which is not known by any consciousness anywhere. Knowledge is by definition finite as it can be fully observed or experienced within consciousness in a finite period of time. If it can't be fully observed or experienced, it cannot be said to be known (although perhaps approximated). So while I may know of an exact potential for an object to fall due to gravity and predict it, I may not know about the exact potential of a piece of music that is yet to be created or perhaps the exact potential of an idea that has never been thought before. The potential of all possible musical pieces or all possible ideas is unknown as it is not possible to experience all of them in a finite period of time.

One can associate finity and knowledge with the geometry of a circle and infinity and unknown with the geometry of a spiral. As one travels around a circle, one knows all the potentials because they simply repeat forever in the same pattern around the circle. Compared to the infinite spiral, as one travels around the apparent circle in two dimensions, each iteration is unique as it moves across the third dimension vertically which has some unique shift in the experience that cannot be fully known until experienced. The circle could be seen as the octave and the spiral as showing that while each octave that exists infinitely in both directions has some constant patterns, it also has inconsistent patterns that cannot ever be fully mapped out.

There is the event horizon that represents the boundary between the known and the unknown upon which we ever grow into the unknown (infinite) from the known (finite). Paradoxically, the infinite spiral both begin and ends with itself where knowledge began with the origin of no knowledge (zero point) within an infinite space of unknowing. Perhaps it's best stated that knowledge (finite) arrived from unknowledge (infinite) which has no beginning and no end and unknowing is more foundational to reality than knowing as it comes first from a linear perspective.