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    Nabil Naser (Offline)

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    12-07-2010, 08:53 PM (This post was last modified: 12-07-2010, 08:57 PM by Nabil Naser.)
    One of the first things that need to happen on earth in order for it to progress towards 4th density is for the people of the world to understand and accept their unity. This will take place when people stop thinking about religion as they do now. All religions must be united together, along with other philosophical views, within a single cohesive principle.
    I believe that this is about to happen. I am one of those who will help in providing the information towards such understanding.
    John, who wrote the last chapter of the bible, said that there will come a time when the secret of God will be revealed. I believe that the time is now.
    The information, once comprehended and shared, will alter the world forever. Those who now claim that their religion is the only truth will be unable to do so.
    The information that will be shared will show that all major religions say the same thing, which is yet to be understood, as it requires a new way of reading the words.
    This is an exciting and important time in the history of the world. The planet is about to awaken, and be offered a choice of how to proceed in its own evolution.
    Join me in bringing this information forward as this will help us in our desire to move into 4th density.

    The drawing below shows what can be considered a page of the Secret record, that so far has not be found. It shows how the number 7 itself creates the very structure of reality, and the creation of Light and Love. A picture is worth a thousand words. The geometry within the drawing has been described in a lot of religious and cultural symbols, and has been described in mythology and many scripture sources.


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    Brittany

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    12-08-2010, 01:03 AM
    To me, saying that people *must* do something, especially when you are telling them to *stop* something, sounds an awful lot *like* our current religious norm. I agree that providing information to those that are seeking it could help to greatly progress this planet's evolution, and I'll readily admit that much of the doctrine set by most modern religious institutions is just mind boggling to me, or completely transparent, but accepting people for who they are is one of the great steps toward fourth density energy. Would example not be the best teaching tool here?

    From Book 1, Session 16:

    QUESTIONER: It would be wholly unlike an entity fully aware of the knowledge of the Law of One to ever say "Thou shalt not." Is this correct?

    RA: I am Ra. This is correct.

    I'm not trying to shoot you down or anything. Just providing a juxtapositioned opinion.

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    Nabil Naser (Offline)

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    12-08-2010, 01:24 AM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2010, 01:39 AM by Nabil Naser.)
    Without getting together and joining minds, do you think that humanity has a chance of evolving within 4th density?
    How are they going to create a social memory complex, without knowing what others think?
    Unity appears as a prerequisite to me. People must get together in common understanding if they want to evolve. The alternative is fragmentation and conflict.
    I am not telling anyone to do anything. I am simply saying that people need to come together for 4th density.

    What is more important about the post however is the message that its has. I may have used the wrong term, but the idea remains the same. And the idea is that if people open their eyes, and consider the information, they may learn something that is beyond imagination.

    (12-08-2010, 01:03 AM)ahktu Wrote: To me, saying that people *must* do something, especially when you are telling them to *stop* something, sounds an awful lot *like* our current religious norm. I agree that providing information to those that are seeking it could help to greatly progress this planet's evolution, and I'll readily admit that much of the doctrine set by most modern religious institutions is just mind boggling to me, or completely transparent, but accepting people for who they are is one of the great steps toward fourth density energy. Would example not be the best teaching tool here?

    From Book 1, Session 16:

    QUESTIONER: It would be wholly unlike an entity fully aware of the knowledge of the Law of One to ever say "Thou shalt not." Is this correct?

    RA: I am Ra. This is correct.

    I'm not trying to shoot you down or anything. Just providing a juxtapositioned opinion.

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    12-08-2010, 01:44 AM
    I like to follow the expression "Be the change you want to see in the world." When the light shines out of you, others will follow. I didn't put much stock in this at first, but oh, how true it has become. Live what you believe, and people will be lining up asking for information. One or two people doesn't seem like much, but if everyone inspired one or two people, we'd have the world covered in no time.

    Obviously, I don't discourage putting out whatever information you have found helpful, either. You never know when it will be just the thing that someone was looking for. One tiny little post on an obscure forum led me to this site and changed my life. I remember Carla talking about how she, Don and Jim spent so much time trying to find ways to get the Ra Material more "out there", afraid that they wouldn't reach enough people. Ra told them that if they reached just one, their work was successful. They didn't need to worry about who was going to find the information- it would be found by the people that needed it. And look at it now. People all over the globe have been touched by an effort that has perpetuated itself forward in love.

    I just don't think there's so much need to worry about how people *have* to change. I grew up in a dogmatic religion that preached evangelism- the need to seek out and convert others . But it was when I finally let go and stopped pushing that people started listening to me. They came to me of their own accord. All will be well. Don't forget to enjoy the ride. :-)

    Of course, this is all my humble opinion, which may or may not be accurate or resonate with you. I in no way claim to have a monopoly on enlightenment here. :-)

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    12-08-2010, 01:57 AM
    This whole Law of One is very beautiful and extraordinary but speaking of it like dogma masks it a lot like religion. There are certain things about truth that make it more than a perspective; a harmonious understanding. However, one cannot simply "teach" understanding to others, it is something that must be learned by the individual, that is why we have all chosen these experiences we are currently in. All we have is each other and yes it would be a huge leap into harmony if all were united but it isn't something you can enforce.

    A true wise man knows you cannot push people into something. Life has a natural pull on us all, a pull into unity that we all want; for within unity lies peace and through peace we can live in the light that is given by true unconditional love. The wise man simply waits. Waits for his brothers and sisters to either ask for his help or reach the pinnacle of choice themselves and even here he does not interfere, for he understands the smallest most insignificant mistake can change the whole flow of a generation.

    You may notice this; you may not. Just know that you will never be able to change everything because you are not meant to. Things are always just as they should be. A million years is nothing in the span of eternity and if that's how long the wise man must wait for his brothers and sisters so they may move forward together, then he is grateful it was only one.

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    12-08-2010, 02:11 AM
    The tribe of mankind is not ready for a social memory complex. That will happen near mid fourth density. Additionally, this is the density of choice, and as such, understanding/love (the unity of all things) is the prerequisite for graduation from fourth to fifth density, not this one.

    There will be, I agree as you have proposed, a giant leap forward in consciousness, a partial unveiling as it were, soon, so that the harvest may be aided.

    Acceptance is the key. All is perfect.

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    12-08-2010, 04:16 AM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2010, 04:27 AM by Nabil Naser.)
    Thank you LightOfLove, for your words are wise and true

    Teachers are a special breed. They can't stop doing what they are born to do, which is to learn and teach.
    IMHO , there is no higher calling than calling on people to unite in peace and harmony. And if one can show the way, one need to share the joy of knowing such potential, so others can also feel it.

    I am all too aware of the need for patience. A famous writer once said, "you can't convince anyone of anything". I agree. A person must choose to become convinced. All I can do is offer the key. Those who want it, can have it. Most will simply ignore the offering, because in their heart, they do not believe that such gifts are real.
    That's understandable, but no reason to stop the offering.

    (12-08-2010, 01:57 AM)LightOfLove Wrote: This whole Law of One is very beautiful and extraordinary but speaking of it like dogma masks it a lot like religion. There are certain things about truth that make it more than a perspective; a harmonious understanding. However, one cannot simply "teach" understanding to others, it is something that must be learned by the individual, that is why we have all chosen these experiences we are currently in. All we have is each other and yes it would be a huge leap into harmony if all were united but it isn't something you can enforce.

    A true wise man knows you cannot push people into something. Life has a natural pull on us all, a pull into unity that we all want; for within unity lies peace and through peace we can live in the light that is given by true unconditional love. The wise man simply waits. Waits for his brothers and sisters to either ask for his help or reach the pinnacle of choice themselves and even here he does not interfere, for he understands the smallest most insignificant mistake can change the whole flow of a generation.

    You may notice this; you may not. Just know that you will never be able to change everything because you are not meant to. Things are always just as they should be. A million years is nothing in the span of eternity and if that's how long the wise man must wait for his brothers and sisters so they may move forward together, then he is grateful it was only one.

    This whole Law of One is very beautiful and extraordinary but speaking of it like dogma masks it a lot like religion.

    But that is my whole point. It is not a religion. In fact, it proves that all the religions speak the same language. It is a logical principle that relates directly to the very nature of reality. We are talking here about Light, particles, and atoms. It is scientific at its base. The fact that it agrees with all these religions shows that there is a lot more to them than we know. It shows that we have been guided for a long time. It also shows that all humanity is being guided, not only those of one religion or another.
    Those who are ready, will find their way. A teacher is like a bridge, helping others cross to a destination. But a teacher can't help those who choose not to cross.

    (12-08-2010, 01:57 AM)LightOfLove Wrote: This whole Law of One is very beautiful and extraordinary but speaking of it like dogma masks it a lot like religion. There are certain things about truth that make it more than a perspective; a harmonious understanding. However, one cannot simply "teach" understanding to others, it is something that must be learned by the individual, that is why we have all chosen these experiences we are currently in. All we have is each other and yes it would be a huge leap into harmony if all were united but it isn't something you can enforce.

    A true wise man knows you cannot push people into something. Life has a natural pull on us all, a pull into unity that we all want; for within unity lies peace and through peace we can live in the light that is given by true unconditional love. The wise man simply waits. Waits for his brothers and sisters to either ask for his help or reach the pinnacle of choice themselves and even here he does not interfere, for he understands the smallest most insignificant mistake can change the whole flow of a generation.

    You may notice this; you may not. Just know that you will never be able to change everything because you are not meant to. Things are always just as they should be. A million years is nothing in the span of eternity and if that's how long the wise man must wait for his brothers and sisters so they may move forward together, then he is grateful it was only one.

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    12-08-2010, 06:23 PM
    (12-08-2010, 02:11 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The tribe of mankind is not ready for a social memory complex. That will happen near mid fourth density. Additionally, this is the density of choice, and as such, understanding/love (the unity of all things) is the prerequisite for graduation from fourth to fifth density, not this one.

    There will be, I agree as you have proposed, a giant leap forward in consciousness, a partial unveiling as it were, soon, so that the harvest may be aided.

    Acceptance is the key. All is perfect.

    There exists a social memory complex as we speak right now. Tapping into such a power allows you to be aware of all at all times. I'm proposing every individual be able to reach this point so we all know what we need, so we may provide those things if we so choose to each other. A social memory complex is referred to as many things because it has different levels. It can start with you tuning into your mother's frequency as to know when she is feeling ill to tapping into the Akashic Records and being aware of everything that occurs. Through such things, we can all repeat and do anything because it exists eternally.

    For instance, if someone thousands of years ago lifted a building with their mind, you may tap into that sense, that feeling and while you are fully aware of it, repeat the action through that "memory" (so to speak). That's one way people go through borders invisibly; is they tap into the intelligent infinite that is referred to in the Ra material.

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    12-09-2010, 01:12 AM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 01:21 AM by Nabil Naser.)
    For instance, if someone thousands of years ago lifted a building with their mind, you may tap into that sense, that feeling and while you are fully aware of it, repeat the action through that "memory" (so to speak). That's one way people go through borders invisibly; is they tap into the intelligent infinite that is referred to in the Ra material.

    I would like to explain how Ra managed to move stones, as I see it.
    At 6th density, an entity becomes able to manipulate atomic particles and atoms. Their mind is directly connected to the fields of energy of Love, or the energy of the creator. What they did was to create machines, that looked like humans, in order not to shock the people. They made them from the fields of energy and the atoms and particles that can be generated from them. These machines did the work.
    While we can't do that at this time, because we do not have the knowledge of how these fields of energy work, we can begin to understand them They are described to great detail in the Ra material. But the information is not obvious, and other knowledge is needed in order to understand it. The knowledge needed has to do with the nature of physical reality. Ra offered the basic principle in their description of the Octave.

    You are right. We need to actively try to build a social memory complex, if we desire to have one.Ra said that an entity can ignore creation if it wishes. A social memory complex can't be created without the participation of its individual members.





    (12-08-2010, 06:23 PM)LightOfLove Wrote:
    (12-08-2010, 02:11 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The tribe of mankind is not ready for a social memory complex. That will happen near mid fourth density. Additionally, this is the density of choice, and as such, understanding/love (the unity of all things) is the prerequisite for graduation from fourth to fifth density, not this one.

    There will be, I agree as you have proposed, a giant leap forward in consciousness, a partial unveiling as it were, soon, so that the harvest may be aided.

    Acceptance is the key. All is perfect.

    There exists a social memory complex as we speak right now. Tapping into such a power allows you to be aware of all at all times. I'm proposing every individual be able to reach this point so we all know what we need, so we may provide those things if we so choose to each other. A social memory complex is referred to as many things because it has different levels. It can start with you tuning into your mother's frequency as to know when she is feeling ill to tapping into the Akashic Records and being aware of everything that occurs. Through such things, we can all repeat and do anything because it exists eternally.

    For instance, if someone thousands of years ago lifted a building with their mind, you may tap into that sense, that feeling and while you are fully aware of it, repeat the action through that "memory" (so to speak). That's one way people go through borders invisibly; is they tap into the intelligent infinite that is referred to in the Ra material.

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    12-09-2010, 04:38 PM
    (12-09-2010, 01:12 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: We need to actively try to build a social memory complex, if we desire to have one.Ra said that an entity can ignore creation if it wishes. A social memory complex can't be created without the participation of its individual members.

    But how are we supposed to do that if people don't want it? This activity need to come from those who chooses and wishes it. At the next level, I don't think that unity is about everybody being the same. I think it's about everybody being different and walking different paths/religions. Only that everybody realize that we all are connected and are children to the same Source, and are in the same boat. And there will be respect for everyone and everything despite all the differencies, similiar to the respect that is present on this site actually. =)

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    12-09-2010, 04:47 PM
    (12-09-2010, 04:38 PM)Ankh Wrote: I think it's about everybody being different and walking different paths/religions. Only that everybody realize that we all are connected and are children to the same Source, and are in the same boat. And there will be respect for everyone and everything despite all the differencies, similiar to the respect that is present on this site actually. =)

    Sorry just to jump in on this thread but Ankh if you believe truly that it's all about different religions - what is the Law of One. Can you give an explaination of this paradox?

    Love & Light

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    (12-09-2010, 04:47 PM)Ashim Wrote: Sorry just to jump in on this thread but Ankh if you believe truly that it's all about different religions - what is the Law of One. Can you give an explaination of this paradox?

    Love & Light

    Hi Ashim, I don't believe that people need to believe in LOO to proceed to 4D, actually, I don't think that they need to believe in anything, they can be true atheists. The only thing that they "need" to is to be "done" with their experiences here in 3D. By that time they have usually chosen how to proceed, ie in positive or negative way. We will unite in our minds later, but it's too early to do so in 3D. The only thing that is required here is love and respect. And if you find it in Bible, Quaran, LOO or simply your heart doesn't matter.

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    12-09-2010, 05:09 PM
    You guys are giving yourselves way too much credit. There exists a constant complex of minds that has been there always. It is what your subconscious minds are plugged into and what all sentient beings are either wholly or partially a part of. You don't need to believe this whatsoever but it is constant. It's not up to you to recreate what is already there. It's like saying you should build a planet with gravity, etc. it's already there. You can limit yourself and lead yourself to believe that it is you making it and start very simple, or you can choose to plug yourself in to the forever existent one.

    You all are treating this Ra material like dogma and acting like a cult. He gave guidelines and information to help us become aware and help in the evolution and progress of our world. I'm not anyone you should listen to; neither is Ra. You should take only what your heart says and shed the rest. If I could have a final word on this forum, it would be that you all find the peace, the wholeness and the light of love within yourselves. You are seeking a harmony that is seeking you but you won't find it out there under a rock or behind a tree. You have to turn inwards and you will see.

    I love you all just as I love my very own "family". You are all my brothers and sisters of the cosmos and we are all a reflection of the light of the creator we all work with. Do not follow anyone or anything for they will NEVER step up to the strength of your connection to the source. No one, nothing, never can be as strong as you at one. Remember that we are all just as valuable in our time as the next if we choose to listen to our calling. The universe never works with spare parts, every part is just as valuable as another and is needed for the whole to work.

    Blessings, Love and Light friends.

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    12-09-2010, 05:47 PM
    (12-09-2010, 05:01 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    (12-09-2010, 04:47 PM)Ashim Wrote: Sorry just to jump in on this thread but Ankh if you believe truly that it's all about different religions - what is the Law of One. Can you give an explaination of this paradox?

    Love & Light

    Hi Ashim, I don't believe that people need to believe in LOO to proceed to 4D, actually, I don't think that they need to believe in anything, they can be true atheists. The only thing that they "need" to is to be "done" with their experiences here in 3D. By that time they have usually chosen how to proceed, ie in positive or negative way. We will unite in our minds later, but it's too early to do so in 3D. The only thing that is required here is love and respect. And if you find it in Bible, Quaran, LOO or simply your heart doesn't matter.

    Thank you.

    Love & Light

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    12-09-2010, 05:57 PM
    (12-09-2010, 05:09 PM)LightOfLove Wrote: You guys are giving yourselves way too much credit. There exists a constant complex of minds that has been there always. It is what your subconscious minds are plugged into and what all sentient beings are either wholly or partially a part of. You don't need to believe this whatsoever but it is constant. It's not up to you to recreate what is already there. It's like saying you should build a planet with gravity, etc. it's already there. You can limit yourself and lead yourself to believe that it is you making it and start very simple, or you can choose to plug yourself in to the forever existent one.

    You all are treating this Ra material like dogma and acting like a cult. He gave guidelines and information to help us become aware and help in the evolution and progress of our world. I'm not anyone you should listen to; neither is Ra. You should take only what your heart says and shed the rest. If I could have a final word on this forum, it would be that you all find the peace, the wholeness and the light of love within yourselves. You are seeking a harmony that is seeking you but you won't find it out there under a rock or behind a tree. You have to turn inwards and you will see.

    I love you all just as I love my very own "family". You are all my brothers and sisters of the cosmos and we are all a reflection of the light of the creator we all work with. Do not follow anyone or anything for they will NEVER step up to the strength of your connection to the source. No one, nothing, never can be as strong as you at one. Remember that we are all just as valuable in our time as the next if we choose to listen to our calling. The universe never works with spare parts, every part is just as valuable as another and is needed for the whole to work.

    Blessings, Love and Light friends.

    i agree that any and all entities should utilize their own mind, body, spirit and connect to their own inner sources, subconscious, their connection to the roots of the tree of mind, or their originating societal complex, or their higher self or totality, or their inner spiritual planes, to learn/progress and make any kind of choice.

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    12-09-2010, 07:49 PM
    I think that action is as important as being. One holy book says "God helps those who help themselves".
    A proton will always remain a proton, unless it attracts an Electron when it becomes a hydrogen atom.
    We have been taught to meditate. That's taking action. If all the people of the earth would meditate on a single idea, like peace, peace will come.

    As for the importance of difference in a social memory complex, it is safe to say that differences will remain. just like a family that is made of different personalities, genders, ages, etc, but still love each other and consider themselves as a unit.

    Lets remember how many years it has taken for humans to evolve to the stage that we are in now, the same will be true of the 4th density. People had to learn through action and incarnations, before being able to reach the vibrations necessary for 4th density harvest.
    A change in the vibrations of local space will not immediately change people into 4th density.

    (12-09-2010, 05:09 PM)LightOfLove Wrote: You guys are giving yourselves way too much credit. There exists a constant complex of minds that has been there always. It is what your subconscious minds are plugged into and what all sentient beings are either wholly or partially a part of. You don't need to believe this whatsoever but it is constant. It's not up to you to recreate what is already there. It's like saying you should build a planet with gravity, etc. it's already there. You can limit yourself and lead yourself to believe that it is you making it and start very simple, or you can choose to plug yourself in to the forever existent one.

    You all are treating this Ra material like dogma and acting like a cult. He gave guidelines and information to help us become aware and help in the evolution and progress of our world. I'm not anyone you should listen to; neither is Ra. You should take only what your heart says and shed the rest. If I could have a final word on this forum, it would be that you all find the peace, the wholeness and the light of love within yourselves. You are seeking a harmony that is seeking you but you won't find it out there under a rock or behind a tree. You have to turn inwards and you will see.

    I love you all just as I love my very own "family". You are all my brothers and sisters of the cosmos and we are all a reflection of the light of the creator we all work with. Do not follow anyone or anything for they will NEVER step up to the strength of your connection to the source. No one, nothing, never can be as strong as you at one. Remember that we are all just as valuable in our time as the next if we choose to listen to our calling. The universe never works with spare parts, every part is just as valuable as another and is needed for the whole to work.

    Blessings, Love and Light friends.

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    (12-09-2010, 07:49 PM)Nabil Naser Wrote: I think that action is as important as being. One holy book says "God helps those who help themselves".

    I am with you, brother. But what are we supposed to do? I would really like to help, but we can't help unless we are asked to. And further, how would this "help" look like?

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    Ankh Wrote:I am with you, brother. But what are we supposed to do? I would really like to help, but we can't help unless we are asked to. And further, how would this "help" look like?
    You probably asked the same thing while viewing this planet from space. :p

    And then you probably said something like "I've got it! I'll incarnate as a human being and through faith alone come to a point of remembrance of the Creator's love. Then, at that point I'll allow myself to find the Law of One from our dear social memory complex Ra. That will enable me to share my love without fear or any uncertainty!"

    And once you get back, you'll probably chuckle at how you could even ask the question of what needs to be done. Just be yourself!! That's what the world is asking for. Smile

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    12-10-2010, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 12-10-2010, 03:31 PM by Turtle.)
    I think one of the biggest leaps of faith anyone could take here is to just live life without a single care or concern in the world, knowing that by just existing you are "doing" everything you came to do. It can be quite tricky, even with all the scientific AND subjective proof, for the conscious mind to finally say "Ok, I'm on board with this 'purpose of life is just to live' thing..."

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    12-10-2010, 09:37 PM
    (12-10-2010, 03:31 PM)Turtle Wrote: I think one of the biggest leaps of faith anyone could take here is to just live life without a single care or concern in the world, knowing that by just existing you are "doing" everything you came to do. It can be quite tricky, even with all the scientific AND subjective proof, for the conscious mind to finally say "Ok, I'm on board with this 'purpose of life is just to live' thing..."

    It would require an incredible amount of discipline... that of an adept!

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    12-11-2010, 01:56 AM
    (12-07-2010, 08:53 PM)Nabil Naser Wrote: One of the first things that need to happen on earth in order for it to progress towards 4th density is for the people of the world to understand and accept their unity. This will take place when people stop thinking about religion as they do now. All religions must be united together, along with other philosophical views, within a single cohesive principle.
    I believe that this is about to happen. I am one of those who will help in providing the information towards such understanding.
    John, who wrote the last chapter of the bible, said that there will come a time when the secret of God will be revealed. I believe that the time is now.
    The information, once comprehended and shared, will alter the world forever. Those who now claim that their religion is the only truth will be unable to do so.
    The information that will be shared will show that all major religions say the same thing, which is yet to be understood, as it requires a new way of reading the words.
    This is an exciting and important time in the history of the world. The planet is about to awaken, and be offered a choice of how to proceed in its own evolution.
    Join me in bringing this information forward as this will help us in our desire to move into 4th density.

    The drawing below shows what can be considered a page of the Secret record, that so far has not be found. It shows how the number 7 itself creates the very structure of reality, and the creation of Light and Love. A picture is worth a thousand words. The geometry within the drawing has been described in a lot of religious and cultural symbols, and has been described in mythology and many scripture sources.


    Greetings!

    From Ra-

    Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

    I love your philosophy on spheres and geometric number synchronizations!

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    12-11-2010, 02:44 AM
    (12-10-2010, 02:49 PM)Aaron Wrote: You probably asked the same thing while viewing this planet from space. :p

    And then you probably said something like "I've got it! I'll incarnate as a human being and through faith alone come to a point of remembrance of the Creator's love. Then, at that point I'll allow myself to find the Law of One from our dear social memory complex Ra. That will enable me to share my love without fear or any uncertainty!"

    And once you get back, you'll probably chuckle at how you could even ask the question of what needs to be done. Just be yourself!! That's what the world is asking for. Smile

    And then I entered that thick veil of forgetting process and incarnated and asked myself the question: "What ... was I thinking??" Tongue
    And when I got home and breathed out: "Woaw! That was NOT that easy as I thought it to be! I barely made it!" BigSmile

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    12-11-2010, 02:52 AM
    First thoughts upon coming through the veil: "Why did I come here again? Confused"

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    Ankh (Offline)

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    12-11-2010, 03:07 AM
    (12-11-2010, 02:52 AM)Aaron Wrote: First thoughts upon coming through the veil: "Why did I come here again? Confused"

    *LMAO*

    As said above "Understanding is not of this density". I tried to explain this to a friend whose english is not so good so she can read and understand LOO. And really after a while it sounded like this:

    Me: "Well, there is a Confederation and Council of Nine and Guardians..."
    She: "They are the good guys?"
    Me: "Well, it's not that simple... But then there is Orion and other guys, they are the opposition..."
    She: "They are the bad guys?"
    Me: "Well, it's not that simple... They have this Empire..."
    She: "So Earth is the battlefield? Woaw I hope they can't hear us!"
    Me: "Who?"
    She: "The Empire."
    Me: "They probably do. I hope that the neighbours won't hear us! Do you hear how we sound like??! This is worse than the Star Wars!" BigSmile

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    12-11-2010, 06:48 AM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2010, 06:49 AM by Nabil Naser.)
    I also believe that this density is not for understanding like Ra said. I actually have proof of that. If one understands the information that has been given, then it becomes obvious that what we know about reality is far from the truth. And the true knowledge is not easy to relate to what we already know. I believe that there is a new science coming. We are not going to understand until we learn the new ways of looking at the universe.
    Thank you for your kind words.

    (12-11-2010, 01:56 AM)LsavedSmeD Wrote:
    (12-07-2010, 08:53 PM)Nabil Naser Wrote: One of the first things that need to happen on earth in order for it to progress towards 4th density is for the people of the world to understand and accept their unity. This will take place when people stop thinking about religion as they do now. All religions must be united together, along with other philosophical views, within a single cohesive principle.
    I believe that this is about to happen. I am one of those who will help in providing the information towards such understanding.
    John, who wrote the last chapter of the bible, said that there will come a time when the secret of God will be revealed. I believe that the time is now.
    The information, once comprehended and shared, will alter the world forever. Those who now claim that their religion is the only truth will be unable to do so.
    The information that will be shared will show that all major religions say the same thing, which is yet to be understood, as it requires a new way of reading the words.
    This is an exciting and important time in the history of the world. The planet is about to awaken, and be offered a choice of how to proceed in its own evolution.
    Join me in bringing this information forward as this will help us in our desire to move into 4th density.

    The drawing below shows what can be considered a page of the Secret record, that so far has not be found. It shows how the number 7 itself creates the very structure of reality, and the creation of Light and Love. A picture is worth a thousand words. The geometry within the drawing has been described in a lot of religious and cultural symbols, and has been described in mythology and many scripture sources.


    Greetings!

    From Ra-

    Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

    I love your philosophy on spheres and geometric number synchronizations!

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    12-19-2010, 03:15 AM
    (12-10-2010, 02:49 PM)Aaron Wrote: And then you probably said something like "I've got it! I'll incarnate as a human being and through faith alone come to a point of remembrance of the Creator's love. Then, at that point I'll allow myself to find the Law of One from our dear social memory complex Ra. That will enable me to share my love without fear or any uncertainty!"

    And once you get back, you'll probably chuckle at how you could even ask the question of what needs to be done. Just be yourself!! That's what the world is asking for. Smile

    Well said my friend, well said Smile

    L&L, E

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    12-19-2010, 03:17 AM
    (12-19-2010, 03:15 AM)Eric Wrote: Just be yourself!! That's what the world is asking for. Smile
    i admit it makes me glad when people realize this fact.

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    12-19-2010, 07:52 PM
    (12-11-2010, 06:48 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: I also believe that this density is not for understanding like Ra said.

    then why is there that much of advanced information that requires understanding in Ra material ...

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    12-19-2010, 08:07 PM
    (12-19-2010, 07:52 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (12-11-2010, 06:48 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: I also believe that this density is not for understanding like Ra said.

    then why is there that much of advanced information that requires understanding in Ra material ...

    To create this forum and get us pointed in the right direction, perhaps.

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    12-19-2010, 08:34 PM
    What I am wondering is following - those of us who are Wanderers from 4, 5 and 6D have allready experienced at least 4D. Do then "bodies" of 4, 5 and 6D exist and are stored somewhere? (I resemble these bodies beeing made of energy/memory rather than any kind of materia, but who know with the photons?) Like costumes safely stored in some worbrobe, would then our memories be stored behind the veil. And following question is, if these "bodies" are somewhere stored, wouldn't 4D body start to be activated now when Earth starts to vibrate in this ray?

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