08-09-2021, 08:34 PM
(08-08-2021, 03:57 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: What I am saying is. There is nothing wrong studying any form of Philosophy, but do not accept it on just an Intellectual level.
Why should people here be accepting it only at an intellectual level. People are talking on aspects of the material that requires intellectual understanding. When you are talking about the intellectual side of things, you talk in an intellectual manner. That's the proper way.
Quote:Although according to Eastern Mysticism, the Mind is incapable understanding and comprehending the indefinable.
The bold is the keyword there. Its mysticism, it avoids understanding and it leaves things to obscurantism.
And they are wrong - the only thing which is impossible to understand with any level of mind activity is infinity. Because it needs to be infinite in every aspect, there is no way to differentiate it, therefore to define it. Which makes understanding it not possible.
Anything other than that can be understood with a mind that is at a sufficient level/density to understand that particular thing. With every density, the mind complex must also evolve and graduate, all the way until intelligent infinity, which is the original mind itself. Which means that minds nearing the level of intelligent infinity and the mind that is the intelligent infinity can very well understand itself as it is.
Same goes for every other density. Any mind can understand to the extent of what it is capable of understanding.
Quote:Once we break the bonds of Intellectualism, and accept the "AS IT IS", (as it is), and everything is complete,
There is no relevance in accepting things as it is and the mind/intellect. Or intellectualism. Leaving aside there isnt one single actual person who has been proven to have become 'complete'.
Even those who 'break the bonds of intellectualism' still use their minds in choosing their way going back home after meditation, not eating rotten food, remembering to make their bed after waking up. Usage of mind never stops, because it is an integral part of existence and without it - well, you cant exist in this universe in any way.
Quote:Or, in other words, accepting the "Great Emptiness" which is incomprehensible. Simply accept your place within it.
The act of accepting a certain place inside something also involves understanding that thing and your place. So the above proposition betrays itself.
Quote:The old Buddhist saying, the more that you seek something, the more it disappears.
Something being old or pertaining to a particular thought or philosophy that was practiced for a long time does not make that thing true in any way.
The material we are studying explicitly says in various places that seeking is needed for spiritual development. And those who dont seek, dont find anything.