Greetings from the Dark
02-21-2012, 09:46 PM,
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Shin'Ar,

I chose not to engage in a virtual flame war with you, Shin'Ar. It would serve no one. Since others have already said much of what I would have, I would ask only that you go back and look at the text of what I have said. I said in the first paragraph of my first post, when I identified my self as STS biased, that "...I recognize this may make some of you view me either as an enemy or antagonist. However, I assure you that I come to you in service of the Creator, as do all wanderers who chose to incarnate in this density." This remains my position, as it has been throughout.

-Zaxon
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02-21-2012, 09:48 PM,
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I cannot force Light upon anyone, that would impinge their Free Will. I am here to hold the Light so that others may take from it when they need and when it is for their highest good, I do not irradiate them beyond their pace. I learn about, acknowledge, and accept the darkness so that is is not suppressed and is therefore within my perception to utilize as catalyst, rather than to control me. The Darkness and The Light are part of the same thing, these are just WORDS, which have little to no grip in reality. Observe your world, look at the darkness in it, is it the darkness which is violent, or harmful? No, the darknesses which are always referenced are those of LIGHT, who do not understand their light, or cannot see their light. They use their love in unwise ways, and use their light in only very limited capacities.

So, I illuminate the Dark, by understanding the dark and the nature of the dark, and so I guide others, as I know safe paths to do so, through their Underworld to assist them in finding the light. Silence in the darkness reveals the light, sometimes it is best to be silent of what one supposedly "knows" about the Light.

From your implications, all I can gather is that you have found your own path through the Dark and to the Light and I would only express that it is not Service to Others to attempt to force them to conform to the perceptions of your path, even though certainly I'm sure that is not within your intention. I speak as I do only to enable and trigger the particular events which must play themselves out through time. All is Light and Love in the One Infinite Creator, and I bless you for your lessons and words, be there peace, adonai.

Also, to Zaxon, I too come from a deep dark state, and would very well have been identified (amusing, since to identify is something one does to other-selves) with STS, but in truth I have since learned that such an idea is a dualistic perception, and that even in those negative states I was still driven by love, and the fear of the loss of that love, which became a drive for power so that I would never lose again.

The Darkness is illuminated through Love, the passion of fire, not the destruction of fire.
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02-21-2012, 09:51 PM,
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I, Death, come, and yet I remain not,
for life eternal exists in the ALL;
only an obstacle, I in the pathway,
quick to be conquered by the infinite light.

Awaken, O flame that burns ever inward,
flame forth and conquer the veil of the night."

Then in the midst of the flames
in the darkness grew there one that
drove forth the night, flaming, expanding,
ever brighter, until at last was nothing but Light....

Then spoke I:
O, great master,
let me be a teacher of men,
leading then onward and upward until they,
too, are lights among men;
freed from the veil of the night that surrounds them,
flaming with light that shall shine among men.

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02-21-2012, 09:56 PM,
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I certainly admire your desire to bring Light in to the hearts of all! All paths are walked together.
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02-21-2012, 10:00 PM,
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(02-21-2012, 09:46 PM)Zaxon Wrote:  Shin'Ar,

I chose not to engage in a virtual flame war with you, Shin'Ar. It would serve no one. Since others have already said much of what I would have, I would ask only that you go back and look at the text of what I have said. I said in the first paragraph of my first post, when I identified my self as STS biased, that "...I recognize this may make some of you view me either as an enemy or antagonist. However, I assure you that I come to you in service of the Creator, as do all wanderers who chose to incarnate in this density." This remains my position, as it has been throughout.

-Zaxon

Zaxon,

We are not here to argue with you for the sake of contention. We simply respond to what you say with what we believe is appropriate response. If you speak of the darkness as something beneficial, than it is our opportunity to lead those can understand to realize the difference. There is no need to take offense as none is meant. Why would you not expect a response to your remarks? This is a forum for thought and opinion.

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02-21-2012, 10:03 PM,
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Technically, the darkness, being Catalyst, IS beneficial...
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02-21-2012, 10:04 PM,
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(02-21-2012, 09:56 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I certainly admire your desire to bring Light in to the hearts of all! All paths are walked together.

Yes all paths are walked together, we are One. But there is direction and choice. there is the fulfilment of our natural design. and there is escape from the cycle of darkness. Let us walk the path that leads to the Light, and light the path that leads back into darkness so that others can see the direction of each. That is STO and service to the All.


(02-21-2012, 10:03 PM)Azrael Wrote:  Technically, the darkness, being Catalyst, IS beneficial...


Pain and suffering is also a catalyst. Does that mean that we should endure it forever if we do not have to? Others have come to save us from this darkness that you claim to be beneficial. If it is beneficial why do we need to be rescued from it?

Far in a past time, lost in the space time,
the Children of Light looked down on the world.
Seeing the children of men in their bondage,
bound by the force that came from beyond.
Knew they that only by freedom from bondage
could man ever rise from the Earth to the Sun.

Down they descended and created bodies,
taking the semblance of men as their own.
The Masters of everything said after their forming:

"We are they who were formed from the space-dust,
partaking of life from the infinite ALL;
living in the world as children of men,
like and yet unlike the children of men."

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02-21-2012, 10:17 PM,
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Yes, and each individual point of consciousness has an absolutely unique design and direction and capacity for choice, and so non-judgement is imperative. Each individual has their own particular balance they need to seek, and so Knowledge, is, in truth, Darkness, for it is an endless Abyss, that of Daath.

To spread the light, we must forget what we know about light and darkness, look beyond in to Unity and see that all is Love and Light, and that the natural interweave of polarity is the necessary MOTION which gives rise to all manifestation.

I wish to show others the light, yet if I cannot assist them in dissolving their illusions of darkness, how can I be of service? Azrael is a psychopomp, one who leads through Death, or Transformation, or through the Underworld as I often work with Egyptian concepts. I seek to assist others through the transformations of their darknesses in to the light. So, while it may seem that I am dark externally, this is because Azrael's light is completely internal, and outside he is completely transparent.

Yet, this life for me is symbolized of the bringing of Michael's immense light to be the outer light for Azrael, and I will show that the Dark and the Light work together. STS and STO are united ultimately, and so we cannot judge the paths of others. In that way, I will never put anyone down for walking the path of Darkness, for it is the path which leads to the Light, for to walk through the Darkness is to walk through the Underworld and see one's soul laid bare.

No, not all take this path, but I am not here to judge the path that others take, I am only here to assist those on the paths they have chosen. And this is the path I have chosen to take, and it is in the intention for the highest good, and the brightest light, and I feel clear on my work to fulfill my own design, which is to show that the Dark and the Light are a beautiful dance which work together. I seek to alleviate FEAR of the Dark caused by the constant negative treatment of the IDEA of the dark, which is what produces the patterns of violence, and abuse which are laced throughout our collective consciousness.

Only in Love, in Acceptance, and Understanding can we hope to be of Service to Others, otherwise we selfishly try to push our light on to others when they are not ready for it.

I understand very much where you are coming from, since I had a very similar attitude not so long ago, but I have had to learn some very hard lessons about respect for Free Will.


I can only imagine how peeved everyone will be to discover that those who are are supposedly causing all the "darkness" on this planet are actually ultimately working from the exact same source as those who are part of the Light Liberation Movement. Ah, what a vast amusing drama we are here playing with ourselves!
My friend, we do not need to be rescued from the darkness, that is an illusion, and duality. I feel perhaps this is Gnostic in orientation and it would not be the first time I have opposed the idea of "light being imprisoned forcefully in darkness". I do not believe we are trapped, or enslaved, or oppressed, by any other than ourselves.

I work to teach individuals to work together in harmony with others, to seek to heal and want to assist others, and this cannot be done when you fear the world, when you fear other-selves out of illusions of your own judgement.

The darkest man in the world could want my life, and I would offer him only Love, and would not judge his path.

"Forgive them father, for they know not what they do."
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02-21-2012, 10:33 PM,
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So then Azrael, We are in agreement that it is our obligation to lead our brethren out of the darkness into the Light.

As I told you when you first called me here, everything is One, and so Light and dark are One and the balancing of the two is existence. But there is also direction. Creation is not at a standstill. There is a Grand design and purpose. And there is forward and backward. and regardless of the blending of Light and dark there is still the direction from toward the other. Evolution travels forward toward the Light and for the human to develop into Higher Being, we must escape the darkness and become Light.

That is not judegement for the sake of condemnation of those who do not realize this. It is simply bearing Light into the darkness.
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02-21-2012, 10:42 PM,
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I have to say, when have you ever experienced "backwards"? This is not something I have every encountered in reality, and in the face of raw motion the idea makes no sense. Forward, or ONWARDS as I would like to say, is the only movement. Time is all simultaneous, there is only the moment, and so it is impossible to move backwards in evolution, for evolution is change, and change is constant.

There is no destination, I am fair certainly of that, sure there is direction, but I do not feel that it is one towards the other. I work heavily with the principles of the masculine and the feminine in a tantric way. It is a folding, an embracing, the Dark and the Light ARE IN LOVE. There is only one single movement, the simultaneous penetration and reception, which both must happen in one motion, for one is not without the other.

My friend, there is no darkness to escape, where would you escape to? We all are already Light, it is illusion that we are not. All exist simultaneously, everything we are to become is HERE NOW, in this MOMENT, the only moment.

I am intending to make a fairly large post actually on some of the things I have been pondering about this so perhaps in that I can make some of my ideas a bit more clear.
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02-21-2012, 10:49 PM,
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(02-21-2012, 10:42 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I have to say, when have you ever experienced "backwards"? This is not something I have every encountered in reality, and in the face of raw motion the idea makes no sense. Forward, or ONWARDS as I would like to say, is the only movement. Time is all simultaneous, there is only the moment, and so it is impossible to move backwards in evolution, for evolution is change, and change is constant.

There is no destination, I am fair certainly of that, sure there is direction, but I do not feel that it is one towards the other. I work heavily with the principles of the masculine and the feminine in a tantric way. It is a folding, an embracing, the Dark and the Light ARE IN LOVE. There is only one single movement, the simultaneous penetration and reception, which both must happen in one motion, for one is not without the other.

My friend, there is no darkness to escape, where would you escape to? We all are already Light, it is illusion that we are not. All exist simultaneously, everything we are to become is HERE NOW, in this MOMENT, the only moment.

I am intending to make a fairly large post actually on some of the things I have been pondering about this so perhaps in that I can make some of my ideas a bit more clear.

You are speaking of the darkness as the polarity of light. This is not what I speak of.

The darkness which man must escape is the cycle of reincarnation. This he escapes by discovering the Divine Fire within him, the Light.

These are not to be mistaken for polarities. That is distraction. The direction of escape is forward into Higher Being, the transcendence from the flesh. the transformation from metter into Spirit. this is the direction we travel out of the darkness into the Light. To not travel in that direction is to move backward into the darkness.

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02-21-2012, 10:59 PM,
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I think that's a choice, and I don't think one is meant to "escape it" so much as are meant to choose when they are ready to move on to other work once they reach a sufficient level of conscious awareness.

Personally, I don't understand this idea of "escaping the darkness". Nor do I understand the supposed immense desire to leave incarnational experience as quickly as possible.

Why do I say this? Well, because I don't believe there is a "cycle of reincarnation", I think that's an illusory idea, which we create for ourselves. I don't believe there is any destiny besides the one we choose for ourselves, and I think it is absolutely inevitable that every single point of consciousness will come to the light. As such, I do everything I can to respect Free Will.

In otherwords, I have absolutely no expectation of anyone to come in to the Light. Yes, I very much desire to share the Love and Joy of the light, but the path they take to discover it I must respect.

Oh, and I would also say that I don't see anything wrong with Third-Dimensional experience, being human, or living on Earth. In fact, I don't see incarnation as a Darkness at all, I think THIS is another illusion. You are still creating a duality of Dark and Light.

I'm sorry to say, but there is no "escape", for we have never been imprisoned, the wheel of time is a vast illusion we have wrapped around ourselves.

Or perhaps in my own way, I am now revealing the way in which I seek to teach others to transcend the suppsed "cycle of karma".
"Transcend the flesh", is another thing which I have never understood.

Flesh is just a holographic image created by our energy, physicality is in the focus of the experience. We are not meant to escape our bodies, we are meant to utilize them for the fullest. The body, or the flesh, is not negative or dark, like all things it is an instrument to be used. Sure, if you want to leave this Octave, by all means if you feel the need to "escape" the universe the such will be your path.

For myself, I've come to love Earth, and love the beautiful creation of the Body which is a gift from the universe, it is my own personal mirror of creation which I may expand. There is no Death, there is no Illusion, there is no movement. This is the truth, motion is the First Distortion, what we really seek is stillness, for then we are unlimited. Silence in the dark reveals the light, for this we must cease to Seek as a Motion, and begin to Seek as a Way of Being.
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02-22-2012, 10:26 AM,
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So Azrael, you do not believe that the human is capable of ascending into Higher Being?

Is that not what the Ra material teaches?
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02-22-2012, 01:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-22-2012, 01:27 PM by drifting pages.)
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Azrael

I have been pondering, how varied my thoughts are from moment to moment, i have considered how people's view on life is varied.
I relate the first to the former.It is easier to consider everyone as a different thought, i usually do not fight diverging thoughts i just move to another of my liking.

The world is not a scary place anymore, when you see contrary as just a thoughts in a sea of awareness.

I think i neutralized reality within myself so i can be what i want to be, my own expression of thought.

I am saying all of that because i related to the thoughts you are sharing and because of the present discussion.
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02-22-2012, 01:53 PM,
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(02-21-2012, 09:48 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I learn about, acknowledge, and accept the darkness so that is is not suppressed and is therefore within my perception to utilize as catalyst, rather than to control me. The Darkness and The Light are part of the same thing, these are just WORDS, which have little to no grip in reality. Observe your world, look at the darkness in it, is it the darkness which is violent, or harmful? No, the darknesses which are always referenced are those of LIGHT, who do not understand their light, or cannot see their light. They use their love in unwise ways, and use their light in only very limited capacities.

So, I illuminate the Dark,



The Darkness is illuminated through Love, the passion of fire, not the destruction of fire.



Discern the darkness for yourselves.
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02-22-2012, 03:08 PM,
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I think Human beings ARE Higher Beings, and that this whole pushing towards the "4th" or whatever dimension to be a big illusional blind, or rather TEST I should say. Do you have the courage to face the life, the incarnation you have gifted to yourself? Or will you arrive here, become enthralled by the illusions of the glamour of "higher being" and desire to flee this world?

Yes, discern the darkness for yourself, and so far I have found it all to consist of Light, and so I see no darkness needing to be "escaped" except our own illusions of suffering which cause us to fight our lives and our bodies when they are supposed to be tools of our Light.

I did not come to this Earth to escape it, I came to it to show the innate freedom that all beings already possess. Darkness is a perception, and so all cages of darkness are self created. Any such pointing fingers at a "mechanism of evolution" or some such thing is really just an avoidance of responsibility for one's own dark natures.

I ACCEPT and LOVE myself in all my Infinite capacities, and "evil" does not exist within my reality. The 4th dimension is the world of dreams, and I'm afraid that many have become so caught up in the glamour of the dream world that they are neglecting the work meant to be done in these bodies, and neglecting to remember the intricate VALUE of each and every incarnative experience. It is NOT a black mark, or a negative thing, to be incarnative. Such is an illusion, and part of the control mechanisms in our world.

@Drifting Pages: Yes, you are basically expressing the exact same thing I have come to myself.
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02-22-2012, 06:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-22-2012, 06:14 PM by Parsons.)
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(02-22-2012, 03:08 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I think Human beings ARE Higher Beings, and that this whole pushing towards the "4th" or whatever dimension to be a big illusional blind, or rather TEST I should say. Do you have the courage to face the life, the incarnation you have gifted to yourself? Or will you arrive here, become enthralled by the illusions of the glamour of "higher being" and desire to flee this world?

Okay Azrael, If this is "it", there are no higher densities/dimensions than 3rd, then why are you here? If there is no progress beyond this, then what is the point of existing in the first place? I want to ascend to something beyond this form so I can better aid others that haven't been awakened yet. Right now, I have this damaged physical vehicle with little use for aiding others as I can't seem to find the right people to aid that WANT aid. If I force my aid on someone, it is a breach of free will. I do not wish to "flee" this world or became enthralled by any promises of power, as your black and white representation suggests. The only reasons I would want to ascend would be to be able to render more aid than I am currently capable of beyond this incarnation, and to learn higher lessons beyond what is capable in this density.

And before I came by this more recent knowledge of the Ra Material, I believed we were simply mammals evolved out of singled celled un-intelligent life forms over billions of years. I believed we only got this one incarnation. All this stuff about there being something beyond this incarnation / the veil gives me an actual purpose to live. I just didnt see the point to live only 1 short incarnation and thats it, you are dead and gone. Then I also heard about the other 7 billion people I live with mostly being in an-unawakened state to their higher nature. This lead me to want to stay so I might see a day very soon where these people are awakened, a great deal of them all at once. I would want to stay in this incarnation as long as needed in that situation where I might be of aid in coming to grips with all this new knowledge.
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02-22-2012, 06:58 PM,
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My apologies, I miscommunicated the concept I was trying to express it seems.

There ARE densities other than the third (although I would digress from saying "higher" or "lower" in a judgemental sense), most certainly. I was not denying the existence of the many layers of our spirital beings. What I was trying to express is that the dimensions are all inter-connected and integrated. As in, we are not only in the third dimension! All of the dimensions exist simultaneously here in the same place.

What I am attempting to bring attention to is the Point of Power that is within the Moment. Indeed, you have said it exactly the way I have been thinking it in my mind: "I would want to stay in this incarnation as long as needed in that situation where I might be of aid in coming to grips with all this new knowledge."

This is how I feel, and indeed, I have thrown off the thought of suicide multiple times in the past. At one point in time, I also saw this body, and this world as a prison, but then I realized that the bars are just thought-forms, and that the limitations are within my self-perceptions. This is why I have began to study holistic healing, vibrational healing and group harmony. I've realized that I need to heal myself, in this dimension, if I am to ever open up to further dimensions.

To me, the 4th, 5th, etc, dimensions are not something other than the 3rd dimension, they are extensions, like in the way a cube becomes a tesseract. I do not see entering the 4th dimension as leaving the 3rd, but as a gradually unfolding of layers upon layers of energetic density. So really, gaining awareness of a new density should really be an expansion rather than simply a change of perspective. This, to me, is what it means to begin to balance and unify all your bodies.

In this way, it is what I mean. I am here to discover my own light, and do what I can to radiate and shine that light for others.

What I am really trying to get at is, all is One, and we are the One.
The distinction is very much between "Inner Planes" and the "Outer Plane". Those bodies which are not activated still exist in potentiation within the inner planes.
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02-22-2012, 07:04 PM,
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Dearest Duncan,

It is hearts like yours that We watch for. Unselfish Love.

If I might be of assistance to you-

It will help you greatly to understand the One Consciousness when you are trying to fit into the All from your perspective of it. Realize that, from the most minute particle of matter to the greatest form of creation, all is united in One Consciousness; that of The Source from which all proceeds. It is never divided from or destroyed. It only evolves and changes from one form to another. What you are now, is no different than that which you will be in another form, except for the experience of it. Just as the melt is no different from the ice, except that it now flows as water. We are all One Consciousness experiencing various expressions of the One reality. This is why you feel an affinity toward the other 7 billion.

you are on a path of becoming aware of your Oneness, and as truths are revealed to you on that path you must discern them and make decisions about how to proceed in the knowledge of them. And in that journey it will help you immensely to understand that you are not the individual that this incarnate identity fools you into assuming. You are the continuing thought process and experience of The Source from which The All proceeds. Avoid individualizing yourself, and continue to act out of love for The All, and you will conquer the ego that pretends to be your identity. An identity that will be lost to death and memory when this temporary flesh comes to its end. The next incarnation will not know this one. But they are only the flesh experiencing the things of the flesh. Your true identity, that as a fragment of the One Consciousness, continues on and evolves. It is not the fleshly brain or temporary identity that evolves. Or even the genetic makeup of your physical body. It is the true identity as the One Consciousness of the All that evolves as it experiences its existence through your experiences and mine, and every other consciousness of it.

we are one of the many, many eyes of The Source experiencing the creation it lays out before it. That which many choose to call God. We are One. This 'damaged vehicle', as you put it, does not diminish the divine nature of the Consciousnes within it. When one begins to realize their true nature and identity, they begin to enter into communion with the All and vibrate on very different levels than their previous incarnations. At some point of this realization of their divinity they will completely transcend from the need to reincarnate in the flesh and will become a being of light. This ascendence opens a new universe of experiences that we can only imagine, and extends even beyond comprehension. The universe is vast, Duncan. If we think we have so much here in this one planet and physical experience, just imagine what else must be out there awaiting us. We are God; why should we restrict ourselves to this tiny experience?

Why would anyone want to restrict themselves to one tiny point of the universe when the All is available to them? It is their addiction to this flesh that holds them in its grip like hunger and lust. And it takes many incarnations to understand that addiction. Love for others is the first signs of a person's realization that this existence is not all about them. Unselfish Love is the true expression of the evolution of the All and the manifestation of the One Consciousness. For how can we not love ourselves?

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02-22-2012, 07:27 PM,
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I really don't understand where our seeming difference is, in principle we seem to have a very similar concept in mind.

To be honest, I feel like I've already experienced a lot of the rest of the universe, it's the human experience which I need to learn to understand at this point. What of people like me? Why am I simply cast to darkness as a label, and my path disdained? I have always been in Service to Others, have always seeked to alleviate suffering, and raise joy and wanted to share Love with the world, with no regard for myself, so I suppose I find it unfair that I am being judged by surface level examinations of my words.
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02-22-2012, 08:14 PM,
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(02-22-2012, 07:27 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I really don't understand where our seeming difference is, in principle we seem to have a very similar concept in mind.

To be honest, I feel like I've already experienced a lot of the rest of the universe, it's the human experience which I need to learn to understand at this point. What of people like me? Why am I simply cast to darkness as a label, and my path disdained? I have always been in Service to Others, have always seeked to alleviate suffering, and raise joy and wanted to share Love with the world, with no regard for myself, so I suppose I find it unfair that I am being judged by surface level examinations of my words.

Azrael,

You are missing exactly what the darkness is. It is not the human experience. the human experience is an experience like billions of others in this universe that the All goes through. The darkness is that we become trapped in it and do not progress further.

let me ask you something. How many times do you want to reincarnate? How many times have you already done so? At what point of the human experience will you no longer be addicted to it and desire to move forward? What is it about the experience of flesh that you so want to experience it again and again when so many other astronomical opportunities and adventures await?

the darkness is that the lusts and desires of the flesh have entrapped you in a cycle that has been ongoing many times over and over, and will continue to do so until you realize this addiction. It is much like the teenager that cannot get away from the bathroom. There is nothing actually evil or wrong with that experience, but if he never comes out of the washroom how will he ever experience the rest of existence? The creation is much more than self gratification, and service to others so much more gratifying when we realize our identity as The All. How can we gratify ourselves alone when we realize that we are The All?

There is much more awaiting us than to continue to reincarnate in the form of flesh. And the evolution into spiritual tendency is the process that we each go through as we progress out of this cycle.

For thousands of years the Masters have been guiding us out of the cycle with their teachings and enlightening. Why do you suppose that is?

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02-22-2012, 08:31 PM,
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"The darkness is that we become trapped in it and do not progress further."

This, I agree with.

I am not counting times, or gauging my progress with quantity. I want to incarnate as many times as is necessary for me to engage the entirety of the human experience, so I may see the whole. Why do you insist that someone who enjoys being alive in a physical body to be "addicted"? Truth be told, I wanted to leave early, and for much of my life I saw no value in this existence, and wished very much to return to my more open, spiritual forms. In fact, I am fairly certain that I have come back for more lessons because of the awareness that I did not quite understand the nature of the divine in the mundane, and the infinite in the finite. In fact, I hated my physical self, and was incredibly close to entering in to a hermit, monastic sort of life style, but then I realized, that sharing the love and light with others is just that, so simple. You care for others, you listen to them, assist them with their daily experiences, and gently present to them the magnificence of their own being.

You want to know what I want to experience again, and again? Love, connection, relationship, interconnection, with those other-Selves who journey through time with me. I am here for the experience of being in relation with my Self. The same things that I desire to experience in the spirit world. You see, I simply do not make a divergence. To me, it is my responsibility to bring the Love, and Light of my spirit down in to my body so my body may be an instrument for catalyst and evolution. Were I in spirit form, my task would be the same, to do what I can to bring Love and Light and uplift those who seek.

I do not care about powers, I do not care about fancy, glamourous experiences, I do not care about being a cosmic universal being. I care about humans (creatures in general really), and hearts, I care about Love and the Light, and I care about doing everything I can to bring joy and happiness to those I come in contact with. It is not a race to see who can get out of here the fastest, it is a scenic journey that each may gander along, smelling the roses, and seeing the sights as they please.

My friend, I am here experiencing so much vast BEAUTY, how can I possibly disdain this experience with some judgemental impression that "there is much more"? Of course there is much more, but I am HERE, NOW, and I intend to make the absolute best in Love and Light out of what I have to work with. I do not have vast magical or energetic powers here, I have words of comfort and acceptance, I have words to offer peace, and otherwise I have little more than the Love in my heart. Perhaps that is not enough for the "Masters", but it is what I have, and I am here to Be my Being to the best of my ability, so I feel no shame for doing exactly that.
Perhaps it is hard to understand... I have watched humans for so long, guided them for so long, and I have now been graced with the opportunity to be here with them in this glorious time of growth and ascension, and all I can do is express the light of my being to the greatest extent possible.
Amusingly, I feel as though I am an illimitable Spirit learning to appreciate and enjoy the simplicity and beauty of limitation. I do not feel I am here to leave my body, been there, done that, I can leave the incarnative experience whenever I want, I am quite certain. Rather, I wish for unity of all dimensions and all bodies, I wish to unite the spiritual with the material.
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02-22-2012, 08:45 PM,
RE: Greetings from the Dark
Azrael,

Each incarnation allows you one more opportunity to understand that it is just another incarnation, and that the roses still smell the same despite their beauty.

Life in the flesh is not meant to be given up or diminished, but it is meant to be used as an opportunity to understand it for what it is, so that we can evolve and develop rather than remain in one aspect of it just because there is beauty and others to share it with.

Those others are trapped in the same cycle of darkness, and if you really loved them you would not be concerned with showing them the beauty of darkness that they have already experienced countless times. You would be more concerned with taking their hand and leading them off the carousel and on to other rides.

Do not belittle the sacrifice that some Masters make when they return here for exactly that reason.
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02-22-2012, 08:58 PM,
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What is "evolving" and "developing" to you?

Every incarnation is different, every experience is different, every point in time and space is absolutely unique. No two roses smell the exact same, or are in the same light, or possess the same form, each is a beautiful, unique expression.

Also, you are making very narrow judgements as to the manner in which I work, and the ways I seek to assist others. I show them beauty, for beauty, which is light. There isn't "good" beauty and "bad" beauty. It is not my choice how quickly others seek, or want to leave the incarnative experience, and in fact I know some individuals who in full awareness of this make the same admittance of the desire to remain in incarnation to continue to gain understanding of it. I do not profess to know "the way out" for anybody, I do not profess to have a perfect path to the light, nor to even have any real knowledge, as knowledge is an illusion.

What I have is the ability to show others the Light within them, and to help awaken them to the realization of their full being. This I have been doing, and I have actually quite a group of individuals I am connected to that we are all working together to bring Love and Light, and to heal the Earth and help nature grow.

When I speak of the need to accept both the Dark and the Light, I am indeed referring to polarities, for once these polarities are integrated all gives way to Love and Light. This comes from my own experience with working with other-selves, many who were so suppressed with their lower chakra frequencies that they were in such internal conflict that they could not even truly feel love. So I have endeavoured to help these individual integrate their two natures so they can release the judgement of themselves. I am always doing so in the light of Service to Others, and when I teach/learn it is very much orientated towards connecting with the Heart, learning to Love the Self, and love Other-Self as Self, for we are all One.

I feel that our disagreement is really a word-confusion, as it happens often with language.

Also, are you sure I am not a Master who has returned?

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02-22-2012, 09:02 PM,
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(02-22-2012, 07:27 PM)Azrael Wrote:  I really don't understand where our seeming difference is, in principle we seem to have a very similar concept in mind.

To be honest, I feel like I've already experienced a lot of the rest of the universe, it's the human experience which I need to learn to understand at this point. What of people like me? Why am I simply cast to darkness as a label, and my path disdained? I have always been in Service to Others, have always seeked to alleviate suffering, and raise joy and wanted to share Love with the world, with no regard for myself, so I suppose I find it unfair that I am being judged by surface level examinations of my words.

Wow this hit the nail on the head for how I feel. I am just so ready for these changes to take place, and I have been so disinterested with the physical world that it has become a very serious problem for the remnants of this physical world. My wife and family won't understand me not wanting to work even though I'm running low on money to live on. I wish housing and food and bills weren't so expensive.

Thank you for your words, Shin'Ar, I found them to be enlightening.
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02-22-2012, 09:05 PM,
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Tell me about it! This is why I have become involved with the movements of Sustainability, Permaculture, and harmonized communities, and have gotten in to holistic healing practices.
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02-22-2012, 09:07 PM,
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You said "What I have is the ability to show others the Light within them, and to help awaken them to the realization of their full being."


I ask you what is the realiztion of their 'full being'? You seem to be contradicting yourself. What you are sharing with these others is more of the same incarnations time and again. I guess you will have to explain further what you mean by awakening them to their full being, when you also seem to suggest that full being to you is just more incarnations.

The true Masters do not teach that reincarnation is a thing to be looked forward to. Their teachings are in line with the ancient teachings and all compliment each other in this regard. One can find the teachings of the Masters throughout many of the records of the anceint cultures and religions around the world. They are all rooted in the same basic fundamentals, which can easily be seen in the many symbols and secret signs globally.

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02-22-2012, 09:16 PM,
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Indeed, it seems there is confusion here as to what I am meaning. It is not the desire for incarnations that I share, and I see how you may have mistakenly gotten that impression.

I'm having a hard time properly expressing exactly what I mean, words are so fumbly and hardly adequate for expressing simultineity.

Their "full being" is the Creator. What I teach to individuals is that reality is a perception, and that they are the Creators of it, and by integrating one's polarities one harmonizes internally and gains a greater degree of Creative capacity within their perceptual realities. I always do this in a context of the ability to assist and be of service to others, and consistently warn of the intoxication of "siddhas", and the natural karmic implications of using one's abilities for self gain. What I seek to teach is responsibility for one's Creative capacities, which is indeed what I view this incarnative experience as. A Being with no sense of balance would create very chaotic systems and realities, and so my work is primarily with assisting individuals to find their own balance, in divine Love, Light and Wisdom.

Truly, I express that we are seeds, we are embryos of the Universe itself, and I very much express that there are many transformations and vaster forms to explore. BUT, one must first complete the work in the space they are in, and in this place, it is integration of polarities, and so that is where I offer my services to my capacities. Rather, I try to pull individuals away from the glamour of the future, the pain and glory of the past, and attempt to put them in the present Moment, where all the power, love and wisdom in the Universe exists.
And yes, most of my perceptions do not actually come from the Ra Material, it relates mostly to Hermetic principles, Buddhist concepts (particularly Dzogchen), and then of course my own perceptions.

I do not feel I am teaching reincarnation as a thing to be look forward to, but rather that an incarnation can be done enjoyably. Once you're here, you're here, and gotta make the best with what you have.

Service to Others is not service to others if you feel that you 'have' to do it. I have made simple enjoyment and service to others my way of life, and so I am not having an unpleasant incarnation experience. Ironically, in the same thought I feel quite certain that this is my last incarnation.
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02-22-2012, 09:28 PM,
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It seems that being trapped in the present is a fate which you will have to endure over and over until you realize that time is the illusion that has fooled you.

It also seem that the moderator has made it clear that the rules of this forum are clear in that it is a place for discussing things of the LOO, and I simply do not see the benefit in my place of understanding to attempting to interpret the teachings of an ET that has been channeled. I do not disrespect anyone who does, and I do acknowledge that the teachings might be beneficial. I have no way of knowing. But if there was something here that tweaked my intuition and drew me I might make the effort. I simply have not seen that discussed amongst you. What I have heard is that service to self is beneficial, that reincarnation is a wonderful experience, and alot of attempting to categoraize color and density.

I only wanted to make sure that I addressed everyone that was kind enough to respond to me. But to be fair to the moderator I must move on.

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02-22-2012, 09:37 PM,
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Aha We are expressing the same thing here, I am also expressing that time is an illusion, and that there is no time, there is no past, present, or future, there is only consciousness and its focus.

I have simply tried to express my deepest unconditional love for all beings, for all states, and for all manners of progress and evolution. It is not my place, nor my responsibility, to choose for others what path of seeking they will take. Perhaps you are "correct" in your observations, or perhaps you are being judgemental, it does not matter to me either way because you of course are a unique, beautiful part of the creation and have certainly been stimulating in many ways.

We may never know which of us, if not all of us, possesses the "truth", but it has been enjoyable sharing perceptions with you. I am certainly open to continue communication, as I am interested in learning more, but it seems you have your agenda and I shall leave you to it. Blessings, my friend, love and light, adonai.
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