Law of One Channeling
03-27-2012, 04:06 PM,
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it should also be noted that time is really not a factor when considered to eternity and infinity. What we are perceiving as a long time is fleeting seconds to those who have gone before us billions of years ago.

We should also acknowledge that it is not just in this last decade that humans have been becoming enlightened and ascending. the ancients have been teachings this and ascending for millenia. Countless humans have evolved and ascended ahead of us.
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03-27-2012, 06:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2012, 09:11 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
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LOL- well by all means don't take MY word for it... let's see what Ra had to say about themselves as regards wisdom and folly...

8.6 Wrote:The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your peoples’ call is greater and greater.

42.5 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. The fourth-density, as we have said, abounds in compassion. This compassion is folly when seen through the eyes of wisdom. It is the salvation of third-density but creates a mismatch in the ultimate balance of the entity.

Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth-density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom.

In my humble opinion, there is no need to "defend" Ra from their own words, as no "attack" upon them was made.



(03-27-2012, 03:26 PM)godwide_void Wrote:  And this forum is the grand fruition, the wonderful result of that alleged 'folly', a place that proves that there are indeed those among humanity who are perfectly ready and willing to positively implement the Law of One in a practical manner, integrate it into our lives, to do all within our power to ensure that harmony and unity are achieved for all others if that is what is wished by the avid student of this material, and for the general betterment and hopeful awakening of the one whom comes across Ra's words through Carla.

That the Creator can transmute folly to a positive result, is not a testament to the wisdom of folly, but to the glory of the Creator.

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03-28-2012, 02:09 AM,
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(03-27-2012, 06:14 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:  In my humble opinion, there is no need to "defend" Ra from their own words, as no "attack" upon them was made.

You are right. I do have a tendency to "defend" Ra. These discussions that Ra mucked up as you've put it, or as some other members put it messed up and other pretty words, or that they act of selfish reasons, has been going on here since I joined this club, and they do push my buttons. My personal opinion has been that Ra are way too cautious, so thanks for bringing those quotes to my attention. I have not "seen" them before. I guess that the mind sees what it wants to see, right?

With all this said, I still believe that those "folly mistakes" that were made here, were made due the new and difficult situation on planet Earth.

And in all honesty, how many of us have not dreamt or screamed: "Oh, c'mooon already! For how long has this drama need to continue?! Can't Confederation just land already and put a stop to this, so we can all go on with our lives and live happily ever after??" I sure did, as I find this situation a bit frustrating and *unnecessary* from time to time. (And I sure dream to have Ra's sunny asses beamed into my place to start serious teach/learnings in the physical, instead of dreams and visions. But so far no luck. Wink)
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03-28-2012, 02:23 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 02:09 AM)Ankh Wrote:  
(03-27-2012, 06:14 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:  In my humble opinion, there is no need to "defend" Ra from their own words, as no "attack" upon them was made.

.

And in all honesty, how many of us have not dreamt or screamed: "Oh, c'mooon already! For how long has this drama need to continue?! Can't Confederation just land already and put a stop to this, so we can all go on with our lives and live happily ever after??" I sure did, as I find this situation a bit frustrating and *unnecessary* from time to time. (And I sure dream to have Ra's sunny asses beamed into my place to start serious teach/learnings in the physical, instead of dreams and visions. But so far no luck. Wink)

This has been a huge catalyst for me, especially over the last 2 months. I feel like I'am on the verge of letting go feeling like this entirely.

The bitterness that the frustration of waiting for other-selves to wake brings has been intense. I realized or am in the process of fully realizing that the only reason I'am here is because I want to be here. I'am foolishly brave so diving head first into such a challenge as this 3d experience fits what I have learnt about myself in this life so far.

It's like I get excited by challenges now instead of treating them as annoying steps towards escape. This is fun for us. Service to others is our motivation. So now I say bring it on, this is what I do, I was made for this. Time to fight fire with fire my friends.
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03-28-2012, 05:32 AM,
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Shin'Ar, I thought you follow the left hand path?

Isn't the left-hand path STS? I'm so confused... when did the left-hand path prophet turn into someone who denounces STS?
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03-28-2012, 06:35 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 05:32 AM)yossarian Wrote:  Shin'Ar, I thought you follow the left hand path?

Isn't the left-hand path STS? I'm so confused... when did the left-hand path prophet turn into someone who denounces STS?

Here are the posts where Shin'Ar tells more about his beliefs:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4318&pid=77890#pid77890

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4511&pid=77959#pid77959

Well, that whole last thread is started by Shin'Ar and is about STS, left hand path, etc.
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03-28-2012, 08:43 AM,
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I would like to add that Ra was not 6d when they came here in the physical. They were probably at the beginning of 5d, this question was never asked.

Do not forget that time does not exist. Also, I read somewhere that Jesus was Ra at the end of 4d.

They helped us a lot. Smile

Cool stuff !

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03-28-2012, 08:51 AM,
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Why are you waiting for Ra and the Confederation to come here?

The ancients have been here forever. We do not have to await for their arrival. Does this have something to do with some quote that claims that they will be returning to 'save' us or something? It sounds like we are back to worshiping gods again.
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03-28-2012, 08:52 AM,
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Shin'Ar, what is the left-hand path?
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03-28-2012, 08:54 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 05:32 AM)yossarian Wrote:  Shin'Ar, I thought you follow the left hand path?

Isn't the left-hand path STS? I'm so confused... when did the left-hand path prophet turn into someone who denounces STS?

Yossarian, Can't get into this in this thread, but in brief, you should ask yourself why Christians think they will go to hell if they are not saved? That will solve your question, or at least cause you to think on it from a different angle.

The left hand path has always been the Goddess path of the divine feminine. That it was hijacked by the Romans is no different than the many other aspects of ancient teaching that was hijacked by them. The path of the divine feminine has always been about love and respect for the earth and every living thing, and about discovering the divine within us.
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03-28-2012, 08:56 AM,
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Do you consider the right hand path to be STS?
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03-28-2012, 08:59 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 08:56 AM)yossarian Wrote:  Do you consider the right hand path to be STS?

Not really, the right hand path is the path of the patriarchs. this is the path that many of us begin on as we come to learn the truth of the divine, the path where many of us practice tradition and religion and are guided by those in positions of authority. The path where most humans see God as the man in the sky in some manner. the path where spirituality is not understood as deeply as it is on the left hand path. Tradition and culture are more a blind following.

However it is also the path where the elites have the easiest prey and can use that system to their own benefit, and so the right hand path is the one that finds most STS abuse.
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03-28-2012, 09:00 AM,
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Whereas one such as Aleister Crowley is a good display of STS abuse of the left hand path.
I appreciate, Shin'Ar, that you draw the distinction between service polarity and the commonly known paths of wisdom.
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03-28-2012, 09:16 AM,
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Crowley became fascinated with the occult but more fascinated with sex and drugs, abusing both, and because of that he combined the two of them creating a corruption. At which point the left hand path of the occult teachings was a path that he left behind.

You must remember that he and Gardiner were directly responsible for trying to recreate druidism by combining alchemy with a very small portion of historical record regarding the druids. In that process they designed what is today known as Wicca and reconstructionism.

This has nothing to do with the left hand path of the ancients whether one chooses to associate it or not. The ancient teachings are found throughout the eastern cultures where the true left hand path continues as it always has.
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03-28-2012, 09:19 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 08:43 AM)Valtor Wrote:  I would like to add that Ra was not 6d when they came here in the physical. They were probably at the beginning of 5d, this question was never asked.

Do not forget that time does not exist. Also, I read somewhere that Jesus was Ra at the end of 4d.

They helped us a lot. Smile

Cool stuff !

Not sure where you got your information from, but according to Ra in the material, Ra was/is of sixth density when they decided to come among our people:

Ra, 6:7 Wrote:We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the sixth dimension our physical beings were what you would call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. Our physical body complex covering, which you call the integument, had a golden luster.

In this form we decided to come among your peoples.

Perhaps you mixed it up with them never leaving our fifth dimension ever since Egypt workings?

Ra, 14:4 Wrote:There were a few attempts to aid your peoples approximately 2,300 years ago, this in the area of Egypt. The remaining part of the cycle, we have never been gone from your fifth dimension and have been working in this last minor cycle to prepare for harvest.

About Jesus:

Ra Wrote:17.11 Questioner: What I meant to say was can you tell me if Jesus of Nazareth came from the Confederation before incarnation here?

Ra: I am Ra. The one known to you as Jesus of Nazareth did not have a name. This entity was a member of fifth* density of the highest level of that sub-octave. This entity was desirous of entering this planetary sphere in order to share the love vibration in as pure a manner as possible. Thus, this entity received permission to perform this mission. This entity was then a Wanderer of no name, of Confederation origins, of fifth* density, representing the fifth-density* understanding of the vibration of understanding or love.

* This should be fourth. Ra corrects the error in the next answer.

17.12 Questioner: Did you say the fifth vibration was that of love?

Ra: I am Ra. I have made an error. The fourth-density being is that which we intended to say, the highest level of fourth density going into the fifth. This entity could have gone on to the fifth but chose instead to return to third for this particular mission. This entity was of the highest sub-octave of the vibration of love. This is fourth density.

Ra Wrote:17.21 Questioner: What density is the entity known as Jesus in now?

Ra: I am Ra. This information is harmless though unimportant. This entity studies now the lessons of the wisdom vibration, the fifth-density, also called the light vibration.
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03-28-2012, 09:43 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 08:51 AM)ShinAr Wrote:  Why are you waiting for Ra and the Confederation to come here?

The ancients have been here forever. We do not have to await for their arrival. Does this have something to do with some quote that claims that they will be returning to 'save' us or something? It sounds like we are back to worshiping gods again.

Yes. That's what I'm saying. They have been here forever. There is no time. Smile

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03-28-2012, 03:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-28-2012, 03:01 PM by yossarian.)
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I think Shin'Ar's influence here may be to try to balance the Christian influence on the Ra Material.

The Ra Material is a bunch of ancient wisdom, but uniquely, Carla is extremely Christian. While this might work fine for Carla, Christianity has been an absolute DISASTER for most humans in this world.

Therefore, since the Ra Material is channeled through Carla, it would be expected that it had a big Christian distortion in it, and this Christian component may be dangerous for many. I certainly do not find Christianity enlightening, but rather Christianity triggers my slave programming.

The aspects of the Ra Material that Shin'Ar agrees with are the aspects that I have found to be more liberating. The aspects of the Ra material that I find to be endarkening are Karma and the suggestion/implication that it is better to meekly love and submit than to stand up with power and rebel against the elite.

I believe the Ra Material flies really dangerously close to advocating voluntary enslavement and the "loving of your slavery" -- and this is precisely the message of the New Testament. So anyway maybe Shin'Ar is intuitively trying to rebalance that by re-emphasizing the necessity of striving for liberation. I dunno just a thought I decided I'd throw out there Smile
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03-28-2012, 04:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-28-2012, 04:15 PM by godwide_void.)
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I don't really get too many Christian vibes from the Ra Material despite Carla's personal belief system, but that's just me. Where and what in the Ra Material do you consider leaning towards Christendom, yossarian? I'd say Shin'Ar is more akin to a wandering prophet imbued with ancestral wisdom spreading ancient gnosis. If anything, he's not here to 'balance' any Christianity in the Ra Material, but to size up and analyze and confirm that the Ra Material is indeed the 'ancient wisdom' or enlightenment of old that many have pursued.
Also Shin'Ar, I'd like to thank you for clearing up what the Left Hand Path actually entails. When you mentioned you were an adherent of it I became a bit boggled reading that, as I held the preconception that the Left Hand Path basically equated to STS, or the ways of the 'evil sorcerer' so to speak. So the Left Hand Path is moreso along the lines of awakening the divinity within you as opposed to worshipping a divinity assumed to be outside of oneself? I still do not have a clear-cut or certain comprehension of it, so please correct me if my understanding appears to be mistaken.
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03-28-2012, 04:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-28-2012, 05:29 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
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(03-28-2012, 02:09 AM)Ankh Wrote:  You are right. I do have a tendency to "defend" Ra.

For future reference- I don't have any sort of "beef" with Ra. I only seek to learn from them, which includes learning from their mistakes! Smile

Quote:These discussions that Ra mucked up as you've put it, or as some other members put it messed up and other pretty words, or that they act of selfish reasons, has been going on here since I joined this club, and they do push my buttons.

To be fair... Ra didn't do the "mucking part" up. We humans did. Clearly- they didn't foresee this result. However the reason for this- as they have stated- was due to an imbalance between compassion and wisdom.

Ever since I "joined this club" I have been writing about these lessons about unbalanced compassion or love, and it never seems to go over very well. I wonder why that is, seeing as how I have taken this straight from the material. Huh

Quote:My personal opinion has been that Ra are way too cautious, so thanks for bringing those quotes to my attention.

You are most welcome.

Quote:I have not "seen" them before. I guess that the mind sees what it wants to see, right?

Indeed. And I am no exception. I frequently find things in the material that I "somehow" totally missed the first, second, third, etc. time around. Often times, I post these quotes and then watch as others ignore them or gloss them over as well. Sometimes, a person comes along and attempts to reinterpret the quote to mean the exact opposite of what it actually says... such is the power of our biases.

I used to get more upset about this than I do now having realized there isn't much I can "do" about this but shake my head, laugh, and have faith that the message will finally get through when it is the right time.

Quote:With all this said, I still believe that those "folly mistakes" that were made here, were made due the new and difficult situation on planet Earth.

To which aspects of the "new and difficult situation" are you referring?

Quote:And in all honesty, how many of us have not dreamt or screamed: "Oh, c'mooon already! For how long has this drama need to continue?! Can't Confederation just land already and put a stop to this, so we can all go on with our lives and live happily ever after??"

I hear you, and I feel you! But here is something to ponder- perhaps humanity's failure to learn this lesson about loving folly is the reason why the Confederation hasn't openly returned yet. Would kind of make sense, don't you think?
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03-28-2012, 06:40 PM,
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Ankh, I stand corrected on Ra being 6d when they constructed the pyramids.

As for Jesus, it's just something someone told me and it made full sense to me. Even our futures selves are probably helping now and has helped in the past.

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03-28-2012, 07:54 PM,
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record... for anybody who is interested in exploring how Carla's Christian bias influenced the material, I would highly recommend reviewing the thread Yadda Yadda. Also in that same thread are the sessions where Carla channeled Amira (aka Jesus).



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(03-28-2012, 04:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote:  I don't really get too many Christian vibes from the Ra Material despite Carla's personal belief system, but that's just me. Where and what in the Ra Material do you consider leaning towards Christendom, yossarian? I'd say Shin'Ar is more akin to a wandering prophet imbued with ancestral wisdom spreading ancient gnosis. If anything, he's not here to 'balance' any Christianity in the Ra Material, but to size up and analyze and confirm that the Ra Material is indeed the 'ancient wisdom' or enlightenment of old that many have pursued.
Also Shin'Ar, I'd like to thank you for clearing up what the Left Hand Path actually entails. When you mentioned you were an adherent of it I became a bit boggled reading that, as I held the preconception that the Left Hand Path basically equated to STS, or the ways of the 'evil sorcerer' so to speak. So the Left Hand Path is moreso along the lines of awakening the divinity within you as opposed to worshipping a divinity assumed to be outside of oneself? I still do not have a clear-cut or certain comprehension of it, so please correct me if my understanding appears to be mistaken.

GWV, I would like to go into that with you in a little more detail so there is no further confusion on the matter so I will address that either later tonight or tomorrow.


If one studies the Ancient Eastern religions they will find that the references to the Goddess are usually in acknowledgement of the feminine aspect of the Creator.

It is an extremely complex study and cannot be done justice in a short forum post but you will find a great deal of reference to it on my website. I tried to design the site so that it would address the Goddess aspects of the Ancient teachings while at the same time revealing the Sacred Geometry of Alchemy.

But to briefly touch on it here, the Ancients refer to the left hand path as an acknowledgment of the opposite to the right hand path, also in acknowledgment of the importance they place on duality and polarity. The Goddess is the manifestation of both. The Goddess is basically the means of expressing the opposite force that was created when the Source, or Infinite Spirit, came into Being. Therefore the Goddess, being the manifestation of the Creator's thought process, becomes both the feminine aspect to Its masculine, as well as the Matter to its spirit.

In essence, the Goddess is the Creator manifested in the material creation, as the Divine Feminine to the Divine Masculine, leading the All that she creates back to the source. As we are One, so also is the Goddess One with the Creator. All is One, manifested in many ways and thoughts and experiences.

And so the Goddess is not so much an entity as she is a representation of the polarity of the manifestation of the Creator's One Consciousness. A manifestation that has been the means by which the Ancients have expressed their understanding and knowledge for thousands of years. This is the way it has been taught to mankind for as long as mankind can recall. it is written into virtually all of the sacred texts of virtually all religion and culture around the globe. As well, the Serpent and the Goddess are inseparable in this ancient teaching.

Now, when we consider that these ancient teachings are global and have existed for countless generations, we should realize that many of these ancient rituals and practices have managed to be blended into many different cultures. This has been the cause of much of these teachings being somewhat mixed together and diluted.

In that regard the Romans, upon claiming so much of the eastern world, were easily able to further manipulate that dilution and blending, and virtually eradicated the old pagan teachings from their empire. This resulted in much of the ancient occult teachings of gnosticism and alchemy being demonized and outlawed. And that demonizing further led to even greater dilution and corruption of the teachings.

In the dark ages, under papal rule, the Pagan ways became more related to satanism and witchcraft, than with their true origins of nature worship. Satanism was not even an actual issue of the Ancient ways, as it only came into existence with the demonizing of paganism by the Romans and the vatican.

This is why the Templars, who were true gnostics, were declared satan worshipers and murdered. They refused to be manipulated by the roman authority.

This was a pure case of the right hand path, the path of the patriarchal ideology of authority and control, overpowering the left hand path for the purpose of controlling its ancient widespread blanket so that it, the right hand path authority, could better manage their new empire under a more encompassing religion, which went on to become what we now know as Christianity.

So now, what was once the left hand path of the Ancients, has become the left hand path of the witches and satanists. Just like the true gnostic teachings of Christ and John have become what we call today, Christian ideology.

Most of us here are aware of the manipulation that twisted Christ into Christian, so why are we suddenly so confused by the twisting of ancient Paganism into modern Black Magic?

The Ancients have forever taught us that the Divine Feminine resides within every consciousness as the continuing manifestation of the Creator, waiting to be awakened by revelation of one's true identity as that One Consciousness, instead of the temporary form of flesh they had always supposed they were. When the human realizes that their physical is just the temporary vehicle of that androgynous consciousness, the Goddess within, the divine feminine, is awakened and begins the cremation of the physical ego, leaving only the transformed being of light.
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03-29-2012, 02:43 AM,
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(03-28-2012, 03:00 PM)yossarian Wrote:  I think Shin'Ar's influence here may be to try to balance the Christian influence on the Ra Material.

The Ra Material is a bunch of ancient wisdom, but uniquely, Carla is extremely Christian. While this might work fine for Carla, Christianity has been an absolute DISASTER for most humans in this world.

Therefore, since the Ra Material is channeled through Carla, it would be expected that it had a big Christian distortion in it, and this Christian component may be dangerous for many. I certainly do not find Christianity enlightening, but rather Christianity triggers my slave programming.

The aspects of the Ra Material that Shin'Ar agrees with are the aspects that I have found to be more liberating. The aspects of the Ra material that I find to be endarkening are Karma and the suggestion/implication that it is better to meekly love and submit than to stand up with power and rebel against the elite.

I believe the Ra Material flies really dangerously close to advocating voluntary enslavement and the "loving of your slavery" -- and this is precisely the message of the New Testament. So anyway maybe Shin'Ar is intuitively trying to rebalance that by re-emphasizing the necessity of striving for liberation. I dunno just a thought I decided I'd throw out there Smile

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03-29-2012, 05:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-29-2012, 05:19 AM by Ankh.)
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(03-28-2012, 04:53 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:  For future reference- I don't have any sort of "beef" with Ra. I only seek to learn from them, which includes learning from their mistakes! Smile

There are no mistakes, but there are sure surprises, right?

Tenet Nosce Wrote:To be fair... Ra didn't do the "mucking part" up. We humans did.

I used to think so. I blamed humanity, and wondered why the heck Ra is still here serving our ungrateful mass, that not only perverted what they had to offer, but also now accusing them for messing this up. I don't think in these lines anymore, but want to be honest with you.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:Clearly- they didn't foresee this result. However the reason for this- as they have stated- was due to an imbalance between compassion and wisdom.

Ever since I "joined this club" I have been writing about these lessons about unbalanced compassion or love, and it never seems to go over very well. I wonder why that is, seeing as how I have taken this straight from the material. Huh

Where is the imbalance of compassion and wisdom stated? If you look at these quotes again, and read it carefully, here is what I see:

8.6: The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date...

Do you read the imbalance of compassion and wisdom into this and that other quote that you've provided, or is there another quote where they directly state that it was imbalance between love and wisdom?

Here is my view: in the above they are talking about UFO technology, and then adding that there were many other certain types of aid from Confederation, that are now seen as a folly certain *type of aid*. I interpret it as it is things like initiations, mummifications, nuclear and UFO technology etc, that are now seen to be that kind of aid that has proven to be *unhelpful to increase the Harvest*. I can explain myself and how I think in regards to that other quote too, that you've posted, *if* you are interested. But would you like to explain how you think? What makes you to state that you see an imbalance between love and wisdom?

Tenet Nosce Wrote:Indeed. And I am no exception. I frequently find things in the material that I "somehow" totally missed the first, second, third, etc. time around. Often times, I post these quotes and then watch as others ignore them or gloss them over as well. Sometimes, a person comes along and attempts to reinterpret the quote to mean the exact opposite of what it actually says... such is the power of our biases.

I used to get more upset about this than I do now having realized there isn't much I can "do" about this but shake my head, laugh, and have faith that the message will finally get through when it is the right time.

Wise approach and I understand it too, Tenet. I feel strong catalysts when someone totally reverses what is actually said. Some members are real experts in doing that, and present me invaluable catalysts in learning this difficult lesson.

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Ankh Wrote:With all this said, I still believe that those "folly mistakes" that were made here, were made due the new and difficult situation on planet Earth.

To which aspects of the "new and difficult situation" are you referring?

First of all, I wonder if there is something which may be different with our bodies compare to other third densities? There was an alteration of the bodies when marsians were transferred to this planet, and the genes from their Guardians, the Confederation group that was called Yahweh, was added to these new bodies. What I remember it said in the material is that their senses and intellect was sharpened among other things. Nowdays, when almost everyone is living in a global world and people are mating with each other all over this planet, almost everybody might walk around with these genes, as a real mixed up gene pole in our bodies is the result of all of us mixing genes with each other all over this planet. So this may (or may not) present a new situation. Another thing is the quarantine, also new situation. What makes this whole thing difficult is that both the Orion group and Confederation are here, and the mixed Harvest, with calls from opposite polarities from entities of the same planet in the middle of ongoing Harvest. That, plus all the technological information that according to unity100 we shouldn't have the access to, and probably many, many other things that we are not aware of - makes this planet unique, and probably a target of the highest interest for this whole galaxy. I might be wrong, and this is just another week in the Logo's life.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:
Ankh Wrote:And in all honesty, how many of us have not dreamt or screamed: "Oh, c'mooon already! For how long has this drama need to continue?! Can't Confederation just land already and put a stop to this, so we can all go on with our lives and live happily ever after??"

I hear you, and I feel you! But here is something to ponder- perhaps humanity's failure to learn this lesson about loving folly is the reason why the Confederation hasn't openly returned yet. Would kind of make sense, don't you think?

I think that the Free Will is the main reason, whether people choose the folly love or not. We have to preserve it, and as soon as everybody here have made that choice, or died, there will be differences.
(03-28-2012, 06:40 PM)Valtor Wrote:  Even our futures selves are probably helping now and has helped in the past.

I agree. It's called our Higher Self. Tongue
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03-29-2012, 05:38 AM,
RE: Law of One Channeling
(03-28-2012, 11:28 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:  
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The Consciousness that was Christ showing us the way. Not the way that ended up being taught through the Romans, but the way that all of the Ancient masters had always taught. Via the astral gate, the divine connection, the sacred geometry.
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03-29-2012, 05:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-29-2012, 05:42 AM by Ankh.)
RE: Law of One Channeling
As to the discussion of Carla being mystical christian, and it's alleged influence on the material I would like to add following quotes:

Ra, 21:1 Wrote:...the distortion/understanding of our social memory complex that the most efficient way to communicate material with as little distortion as possible, given the necessity of the use of sound vibration complexes, is to remove the conscious mind complex from the spirit/mind/body complex so that we may communicate without reference to any instrument’s orientation.

Ra, 5:1 Wrote:...much as this instrument has the catalysis necessary to provide the channel for our words, yet by example or exercise of any kind can take no thought for this working.

What this is about, in my understanding though, is how each, reading the material, distorting it. This material was transmitted, again in my understanding, in a purest, and uninfected way available for us at this time.

The group, L/L Research, that channeled Ra social memory complex, (God bless their souls !!), presented this material in a most pure and uninfected form - and that is in the book form in question ----> answer format. Today, this work is even more purified by among many things, re-listened project and possibility to buy Ra audio sessions on online Bring4th shop.

What this is about though, in my understanding, is how each chooses to understand and distort this material. Whether one sees the christian coloring in it, or whatever ancient wisdom one believes in, I personally do not see any of these colorings. A quote that addresses this topic:

Ra, 1:9 Wrote:Group-individuated consciousness is that state of sharing understanding with the other distortions of mind/body/spirit complexes, which are within the evident reach of the mind/body/spirit complex individual or group. Thus, we are speaking to you and accepting both our distortions and your own in order to enunciate the laws of creation, more especially the Law of One. We are not available to many of your peoples, for this is not an easily understood way of communication or type of philosophy. However, our very being is hopefully a poignant example of both the necessity and the near-hopelessness of attempting to teach.

Each of those in this group is striving to use, digest, and diversify the information which we are sending this instrument into the channels of the mind/body/spirit complex without distortion. The few whom you will illuminate by sharing your light are far more than enough reason for the greatest possible effort. To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make. We can speak no more valiantly of your desire to serve.
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03-29-2012, 08:39 AM,
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Not sure what your point is Ankh. What exactly does this quote have to do with Carla's Christian background?
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03-29-2012, 08:54 AM,
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(03-29-2012, 08:39 AM)ShinAr Wrote:  Not sure what your point is Ankh.

Point of my post:

(03-29-2012, 05:41 AM)Ankh Wrote:  As to the discussion of Carla being mystical christian, and it's alleged influence on the material I would like to add following quotes:

Blah-blah-blah

What this is about, in my understanding though, is how each, reading the material, distorting it.

Shin'Ar Wrote:What exactly does this quote have to do with Carla's Christian background?

Which quote? If you meant my post, then it has nothing to do with Carla's Christian background, but of this background alleged influence on the material.
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03-29-2012, 09:14 AM,
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The point is simply that the Ra material could not have been distorted by any concepts of the instrument including her Christianity. Smile

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