Having complete faith in higher selfs plan vs personal ambition

[Cyan]

...Logic ruled everything and if there wasn't a scientific explanation to it, it wasn't valid so I'm come quite a long ways in a short period of time...

Same here my friend. I know what you are going through.

for me, logic still rules everything.

Relegated to an area that reads "quantum physics mean that imagination is logically proven to be superior than pure logic therefore, it is logical to believe"

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Sometimes I swear these chanellings are arranged in an exact order of my needs this has happened countless times where I'm dealing with a particular issue and the first channeling I read, specifically deals with my issue.

http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues..._1011.aspx

You are the first person that has pointed this out on this forums(that I'm aware of). I can't help but notice that this has happened to me more times than I can count. I will be mulling over a very specific concept and it will be brought up in the next Q'uo channeling I read. It always amuses me greatly.

In general, I just want to say from what I've read from you in this thread, you have a very strong grasp of the material intellectually/analytically. I am impressed especially considering the length of time since you joined.

My understanding is that you are observed in real time by your higher self and it has absolute control in the end over everything you perceive. So the Ra material shouldnt, in reality, be a single material but should in reality be perceived as thousands of different books. If i am correct about how Ra channels then the "ra material" itself adjusts in real time around the reader because it is accepted as being "non logical" it has the same logic system as hallusinogens.

"if you accept that it might not be real then you are not attached to its permanent form and allow for you rhigher self to "adjust" it when it feels you need something, a fuzzy memory is a blessing that way. makes you feel like you're following one ideology when in reality its quite different"

It works by not forcing you if you believe something to change your opinion, but adjusting the details to the sides of your view step by step as you start to forget things so as to create the impression of one continuous storyline. Therefore, dont be surprised if continued interest in Ra material and the likes produces increasing degrees of communication ending in a revalation by your higher self in person going "oh hi, i've been waiting for you to get to this point, what do we do now that we have this power and a individual personality and a infinite field?"

Dunno, hope that viewpoint helps you understand something new! =)

[Richard]

I don't think spirituality, prayer and meditation are meant to solve our problems. I think they are meant to balance you, to encourage you and give you an inner peace that allows to physically and mentally deal successfully with the catalyst at hand.

Given the roadblocks that seem to be coming your way with regards to X-ray type jobs. Kind of makes you wonder if the universe wants you to turn elsewhere.

Starting completely over isn't easy. But its doable and if you're successful, you'll wonder why you waited so damn long.

Richard

[Spaced]

I don't think spirituality, prayer and meditation are meant to solve our problems. I think they are meant to balance you, to encourage you and give you an inner peace that allows to physically and mentally deal successfully with the catalyst at hand.

Richard

Yes, I agree. As Ra states:

19.13
Ra:[. . .]The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness. Thus, each may aid each by reflection. This is also a primary reason for the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call the physical complex.

[Jeremy]

Sometimes I swear these chanellings are arranged in an exact order of my needs this has happened countless times where I'm dealing with a particular issue and the first channeling I read, specifically deals with my issue.

http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues..._1011.aspx

You are the first person that has pointed this out on this forums(that I'm aware of). I can't help but notice that this has happened to me more times than I can count. I will be mulling over a very specific concept and it will be brought up in the next Q'uo channeling I read. It always amuses me greatly.

In general, I just want to say from what I've read from you in this thread, you have a very strong grasp of the material intellectually/analytically. I am impressed especially considering the length of time since you joined.

Yea I found the info via the hidden_hand info a couple months ago then made my way to Ra then the mountain of channelings outside of the Ra channelings. As soon as I started reading, I took off like a rocket when it came to reading as much as possible. I read at least 5 chanellings a day and generall more. I just can't get enough of it

[Diana]

My recommendation is to stop reading, stop analyzing, forget about why, and do. Not because those things don't matter, but because of putting energy into forward motion.

If thoughts create reality, then all the thoughts must be on creating what you want (as much as possible), rather than on what you don't want (why is everything as it is?).

I would expand my horizons a little. Explore possibilities. If you look outside the parameters of your job, it might shift the energy, too. Maybe you start writing an informational book about being an x-ray tech. Maybe you check into more schooling to become a doctor. Anything at all. You may not do any of it, but action is the key here.

[Patrick]

"...indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn..." ~ Ra 1.9

"...However, our very being is hopefully a poignant example of both the necessity and the near-hopelessness of attempting to teach..." ~ Ra 1.9

So my friend, spending all your time learning seems like a good idea.

[Spaced]

"...indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn..." ~ Ra 1.9

"...However, our very being is hopefully a poignant example of both the necessity and the near-hopelessness of attempting to teach..." ~ Ra 1.9

So my friend, spending all your time learning seems like a good idea.

It is my experience that by spending all your spare time learning then you will naturally assume the role of teacher in any interactions with other-selves.

I think the key is to find the individual point of balance between seeking internally and interacting with the world at large where you can accomplish both at once.

[AnthroHeart]

I spend the large majority of my free time on this forum. Hence I am learning a lot. It can get pretty diverse even here.

[Parsons]

If i am correct about how Ra channels then the "ra material" itself adjusts in real time around the reader because it is accepted as being "non logical" it has the same logic system as hallusinogens.

This has long been my suspicion as well, that the material is adjusted by your higher self to reflect your thoughts at the 'time'. Either that or the material was planned out like 20 years in advance for the 3D person to read the channeling session and notice that a recent thought was confirmed by the Ra/Q'uo material.

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Yea I found the info via the hidden_hand info a couple months ago then made my way to Ra then the mountain of channelings outside of the Ra channelings. As soon as I started reading, I took off like a rocket when it came to reading as much as possible. I read at least 5 chanellings a day and generall more. I just can't get enough of it

Same here... It's quite addicting once you have made the initial connection.

But... I can stop anytime I want!!

* Parsons starts itching arm manically

[AnthroHeart]

I haven't read Ra material for a few months. I get by with what's on this forum and the quotes that people post. That's interesting that the right material comes along when you're ready for it. A lot of times, the right quote will as has been mentioned earlier.

[zenmaster]

emotions are more like what develops later, after ignoring your communication from your higher self. Communication actually starts more directly from the spirit, then more indirectly to mind, then more indirectly still from mind to body. Basically, subtle to less subtle. Here we have the faculty of intuitive perception to connect with spirit, and when that is ignored we have the unconscious emotional feedback at the lower level of mind and body. So if you're working with emotions, you are working within a much more transient, self-distorted framework of your 'personality shell'. This personal complexity and distortion is necessarily an abstraction layer from communication with higher self. As well as it should be to make things safe enough until there is sufficient acceptance.

I agree that communication from spirit is a translation from the subtle to the less subtle, or gross, however, I don't agree with your perception that emotions are necessarily a lower, or more transient distorted framework of the personality shell. Certainly, I would agree that is the case in some cases. There are "lower frequency emotions" I just don't feel all emotions can be pinned down so specifically.

Emotions are complex translations of vibrational variances in consciousness. Much as your eyes translate different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation into "colors", or your ears translate different frequencies of vibration into "sounds", your emotions are a translation of vibration also. Emotions register the vibrational variance between belief and desire. Beliefs reside at the indigo, or form-maker level. That is the spectrum of consciousness they belong to. To the degree that these beliefs contradict your 3rd density desires, you translate that variance as "negative emotion". If you are sick, and want to be well, but do not believe you can be, you will necessarily feel bad. The beliefs held in your indigo body will keep your body sick, perpetually, until you change them.

To the degree that those beliefs support your desires, you feel positive emotion. So, in a sense, emotions *are* your communication from spirit. They *are* your intuition (which is only as reliable as you are undistorted). To me, the spirit complex is the relationship between the macrocosm (Logos) and the microcosm (mind/body/spirit complex). Emotions are your perception of this relationship. This is why they are extremely important to evolution. The less distorted the relationship is between the macrocosm and microcosm, the less distorted love/light or light/love one becomes privy to. There is only one emotion and it is love. When one partakes less purely in that love, due to negative belief structures, what we call "lower emotions" are the result.

Everything is a translation of vibration.

If you think emotions are a perception, or that they are the intuitive faculty, then this would not be what I was saying or meant. I'm using the term "emotions" in a Jungian, psychological context (as with "intuition"). BTW, "lower emotions" can also be due to positive belief structures so gotta balance that one out.

Remember, emotions are an unconscious reaction. The more "pure" one is, the more balanced, or less distorted. So things with personal emotive-charge content tend to diminish, becoming more and more subtle as one evolves. This is how it should be, as unconscious reactions would obviously be reduced with more consciousness. What does increase with that "purity", is the capacity for conscious feeling (again in the Jungian sense). http://tap3x.net/ENSEMBLE/mpage3c.html
Feeling, intuition and emotion are often confused, possibly due to their common time/space (interiors / from periphery of wholeness) natures. intuition would actually be that perception you're looking for, while feeling would be the active evaluation of something.

[anagogy]

If you think emotions are a perception, or that they are the intuitive faculty, then this would not be what I was saying or meant. I'm using the term "emotions" in a Jungian, psychological context (as with "intuition"). By the way, "lower emotions" can also be due to positive belief structures so gotta balance that one out.

Can you explain what you mean by positive belief structures causing lower emotions (that is to say, negative emotions)? It has been my experience, that positive belief structures do the exact opposite of causing negative emotion. Perhaps an example, so I can better understand?

Remember, emotions are an unconscious reaction. The more "pure" one is, the more balanced, or less distorted. So things with personal emotive-charge content tend to diminish, becoming more and more subtle as one evolves. This is how it should be, as unconscious reactions would obviously be reduced with more consciousness. What does increase with that "purity", is the capacity for conscious feeling (again in the Jungian sense). http://tap3x.net/ENSEMBLE/mpage3c.html
Feeling, intuition and emotion are often confused, possibly due to their common time/space (interiors / from periphery of wholeness) natures. intuition would actually be that perception you're looking for, while feeling would be the active evaluation of something.

Perhaps that is the cause of our differences in viewpoints here, that you are looking at things through a "Jungian" lens. Since, there is no universally accepted definition for feeling, emotion, and intuition, naturally there will be differences in peoples viewpoints. My lens is definitely not a Jungian one.

There are some things I can agree with however.

As one becomes more balanced, more in tune with the macrocosm, one becomes more conscious. Control over ones thoughts, or focus of consciousness, increases. Since emotions are reactions based on thoughts, control of these increase by default. As a result, there are less contradictions, or distortions, within the balanced being. The emotional state becomes one of complete joy, love, happiness, acceptance, or appreciation. These words all approach, yet fall short, of the permanent state of consciousness we all exist in, but is hidden from our conscious minds by our egoic distortions.

The line between intuition, and emotions is very fine. You can't really separate them in my opinion. From my perspective, intuition is a natural byproduct of the interconnectedness of all things. Since, ultimately, outside the illusion of separation, we are all One, we automatically have access to all things unconsciously. We all have access to a sort of omniscience. The reliability of that omniscience is in direct proportion to the clarity of our minds -- a factor of how distorted or imbalanced we are. How distorted we are, is registered, at least partly, by our emotional state. The more distorted you are, less love/light you partake in consciously. Someone at inner peace, feeling love in their hearts, and existing in a state of joy will have a more comprehensive and accurate access to intuition, then someone who lives in a state of emotional disharmony. From my viewpoint, this would be indicative they had eliminated a great deal of the distortions within their consciousness. All distortions are the result of misaligned thought.

Though there are differences in our perspectives, I can appreciate, in my own way, where you are coming from. Oftentimes people use different words to describe the same fundamental mechanism, but even so, one can still see the essential mechanism at work in the exchange of seemingly different descriptions.

[BrownEye]

Perhaps that is the cause of our differences in viewpoints here, that you are looking at things through a "Jungian" lens. Since, there is no universally accepted definition for feeling, emotion, and intuition, naturally there will be differences in peoples viewpoints. My lens is definitely not a Jungian one.

I find feeling to be a reaction to thought, emotion to be an expression of the feeling or thought, and intuition to be the energy that comes through the crown.

As that energy can come from both polarities intuition can be wrong IMO. Or rather manipulated. Of course, we have to have made the choice to accept those positive/negative boundaries in the first place, relying on our feelings, emotions, and beliefs.

[TheInfinite1]

Edit: It appears as if this should have been in the life on earth forum but I can't delete it so if a mod wants to move it, I'm ok with that

One of the hardest points right now for me is finding the balance between the two. At this current juncture in my life, I am in a precarious position in that to be able to pick myself back up financially speaking and get off of the mattress on my parents floor after a nasty divorce, I am forced to find a second job due to child support

I am an X-ray tech and jobs are ridiculously hard to find so I'm having to constantly check job sites along with various hospital sites to ensure that I can apply as soon as the job is posted so that I have a chance at it.

The problem that I run in to is that a some points, if I'm to have faith in my higher selfs path, it feels like I'm forcing the issue thus reenabling an already estalished pattern of impatience that I have come to realize.

So with that said, to have complete faith in your intended path, are you supposed to just sit back and allow your intended path to simply jump into your lap or is there some sort of benefit to having ambition to improve ones life outside of the spiritual path?

I realize that I have all that I need in this particular illusion to allow my spirtual evolution but it's to a point where I feel like I'm limiting the amount of service to not only my daughter but to my hopeful new relationship along with any hope of actually being self reliant ever again.

Greetings!

The plan of your Higher Self changes with each moment and choice that you make right now. The plan is best tailored to fit your choices and is, ironically, the plan that you are creating for yourself right now. This is because of the simultaneous existence of you in all points of time existing in an eternal present.

[zenmaster]

If you think emotions are a perception, or that they are the intuitive faculty, then this would not be what I was saying or meant. I'm using the term "emotions" in a Jungian, psychological context (as with "intuition"). By the way, "lower emotions" can also be due to positive belief structures so gotta balance that one out.

Can you explain what you mean by positive belief structures causing lower emotions (that is to say, negative emotions)? It has been my experience, that positive belief structures do the exact opposite of causing negative emotion. Perhaps an example, so I can better understand?

For example, the expectation of reward, the hope for improvement of conditions, the attraction of eros, charged complexes carrying feeling of numinosity (repressed transcendent function), etc. The things we tend to see featured prominently in advertising messages which are designed to appeal to positive emotions.

Remember, emotions are an unconscious reaction. The more "pure" one is, the more balanced, or less distorted. So things with personal emotive-charge content tend to diminish, becoming more and more subtle as one evolves. This is how it should be, as unconscious reactions would obviously be reduced with more consciousness. What does increase with that "purity", is the capacity for conscious feeling (again in the Jungian sense). http://tap3x.net/ENSEMBLE/mpage3c.html
Feeling, intuition and emotion are often confused, possibly due to their common time/space (interiors / from periphery of wholeness) natures. intuition would actually be that perception you're looking for, while feeling would be the active evaluation of something.

Perhaps that is the cause of our differences in viewpoints here, that you are looking at things through a "Jungian" lens. Since, there is no universally accepted definition for feeling, emotion, and intuition, naturally there will be differences in peoples viewpoints. My lens is definitely not a Jungian one.

I've found Jung's concepts to be congruent with the Ra material, and while not universally accepted, it is the most widely accepted out of the options available.

There are some things I can agree with however.

As one becomes more balanced, more in tune with the macrocosm, one becomes more conscious. Control over ones thoughts, or focus of consciousness, increases. Since emotions are reactions based on thoughts, control of these increase by default.

Yes, generally what is accepted from oneself is at one's conscious ability to be used (rather than unconsciously presented to one's attention as a stimulated reaction).

As a result, there are less contradictions, or distortions, within the balanced being. The emotional state becomes one of complete joy, love, happiness, acceptance, or appreciation. These words all approach, yet fall short, of the permanent state of consciousness we all exist in, but is hidden from our conscious minds by our egoic distortions.

Yes, but here we don't really exist in full appreciation of conscious awareness of that permanent state. Consciousness and awareness are essentially identical as I'm using the term.

The line between intuition, and emotions is very fine. You can't really separate them in my opinion.

Ultimately the conscious and unconscious are blended along with the psychological faculties used to perceive and to determine. That's the dialectical monism dynamic. But practically speaking, here, we choose one frame of reference to make the other distinct to consciousness. With intuition we perceive where something is going and from whence it came - without resorting rational analysis. With emotion we have feedback from our unconscious when it has been somehow impressed and made active outside of our awareness.

From my perspective, intuition is a natural byproduct of the interconnectedness of all things. Since, ultimately, outside the illusion of separation, we are all One, we automatically have access to all things unconsciously.

This is just another way of saying time/space perspective. time/space is from all to part, where the intuiting individual would be 'anchored' in time/space (and applying that perception to space/time). That 'all' is all there is. And since we are only pontentially all there is, the perspective is necessarily related to and drawing from the unconscious (i.e. the deep mind). How that intuited perception finds its way to conscious use (in teach/learning) will be totally dependent on the development of one's rational world view.

We all have access to a sort of omniscience. The reliability of that omniscience is in direct proportion to the clarity of our minds -- a factor of how distorted or imbalanced we are. How distorted we are, is registered, at least partly, by our emotional state. The more distorted you are, less love/light you partake in consciously. Someone at inner peace, feeling love in their hearts, and existing in a state of joy will have a more comprehensive and accurate access to intuition, then someone who lives in a state of emotional disharmony. From my viewpoint, this would be indicative they had eliminated a great deal of the distortions within their consciousness. All distortions are the result of misaligned thought.

Yes, where misaligned can be said to be a misunderstanding which prevents some acknowledgement or acceptance.

Though there are differences in our perspectives, I can appreciate, in my own way, where you are coming from. Oftentimes people use different words to describe the same fundamental mechanism, but even so, one can still see the essential mechanism at work in the exchange of seemingly different descriptions.

Most of the time people use different words when attempting to not be vague about the mechanisms. Obviously, a primary mechanism exists, but it is ineffable. I think we can be descriptive with utility when referring to the mechanisms which are derived from that one source. And I think a lot of that work has already been done by Jung and others who have developed insight from studying themselves and others using a psychological perspective.

[Jeremy]

So wow what a week. I think it was on tuesday when I wrote about my frustations.

I then meditated tried to meditate but was overcome with sorrow and frustration. I simply gave up. Gave up on finding another job within x-ray, gave up on the girl, gave up on ever getting out of this. I tried meditating a little more but it just wouldn't work. I then got up and on my way to work, I was filled with this ridiculous sense of ambition and determination.

I went to work, explained to my boss how I was drowning. She then gave me an extra 30 minutes per day plus bumped me up to a 72 hour employee instead of 64 hour which gives me more PDO along with the added hours.

Plus she gave me a bunch of shifts that needed to be covered over the next few months instead of giving them to the part time people

Found that once I can get my ex off of my insurance after the divorce is filed, I'll save about $170/month so I'm bugging the hell out of her to file.

Mailed off child support modifcation request to see if I can either make them make her work since she's voluntarily not working or lower my payments to give her more motivation since it's killing me financially

I adjusted my exemption status from 0 back to 1 as I had to keep it at 0 for tax purposes due to having to file single next time due to my impending divorce.

Finished Continuing credits needed to renew my xray license then I renewed it

Finished a bunch of work related education courses

Took the basic life support renewal class

While taking the renewal class, I get a call from the hospital position I gave up on. He asked if I could make it in today but I was stuck in the class then had to be at work. He then asked if I was free this weekend so I said definitely. He's gonna come in tomorrow at 9am to interview so I'm pretty stoked considering he's coming in on his day off just to interview me!

[Spaced]

Sounds like things are starting to turn around for you Xradfl.

Ganbare!

[Jeremy]

Yea I was simply in such a funk after years of being spat on tbh after dealing with everything in regards to my wife's addictions/depression that I just wasn't expecting good things to happen anymore. Once I turned that point of view around, meditated and actively sought guidance and help, it really was quite a change. Sure most of it was my doing since I made the choice to pull myself by proverbial boot straps but I can't help but believe that the meditating really did help

[Jeremy]

Well I got the job! It was the most laid back and surreal interview I have ever had.

Now I'm just relaxing during a gala at Cassadega's spiritualist camp to further these psotive feelings. Quite a place full of various mediums, psychics, along with stores with books, crystals, etc.

Thanks everyone for the great words of inspiration.

[Confused]

Congratulations, Xradfl!

[Patrick]

The magical nature of our reality at work.