02-28-2013, 07:17 PM
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02-28-2013, 07:17 PM
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02-28-2013, 08:08 PM
How do you know what responded was who you intended to communicate with?
02-28-2013, 08:32 PM
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Intent/vibration.
That would be the primary driver as to who he got.
03-01-2013, 10:05 AM
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03-01-2013, 05:48 PM
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03-04-2013, 10:01 AM
(03-01-2013, 02:18 PM)TheEternal Wrote: There have been numerous times where a being will come, claiming itself to be Michael or Gabriel or some other angel or divine being, and upon challenging it, it will change, be unable to answer me truthfully, which I can always tell by a disturbance or distortion of the energy, and often their created form starts to break down, because they can only maintain their deception so long as you believe it, and then I challenge them again and demand to know their true name, sometimes asking up to three times until they answer. Once they reveal their true name, I banish them back to their own realms, and continue my working by a repetition of what I have just explain until I have made contact with a viable source. Can the entities not just break contact with you and leave without giving their name? why do they stay? Don't get me wrong i would probably compel it out of them and banish them as well and i wouldn't be doing it to necessarily have power over them but to diminish their power over me. Sometimes that line might blur but i don't think its sts to know their names and be able to remove them from your presence. After all that's what the banishing rituals are for. I only rant because your experience reminded me of the part in the Ra material when they wanted to know the name of their 5D STS 'friend' and it was implied that knowing the name would be a temptation to exert power over that entity. Maybe the distinction is that a banishing ritual or even issuing a challenging is a kind of non-specific filtering process based on light and vibration, whilst specifically banishing an entity would be exerting power over said entity. i don't know. i was just curious how you reconcile stuff like this. Quote:85.6 Questioner: Would it be magically bad for us to know that name, or would it make no difference?
03-04-2013, 03:31 PM
Feeling a pressure could also just mean that energy is flowing to that particular area.
03-04-2013, 03:44 PM
(03-04-2013, 01:46 PM)TheEternal Wrote: Sure, I could simply open my heart and take in the energy with no discernment, with the idea of transmuting it through love, but I think that Ra misses the key point that the individual has to be able to do so without distortion and without identification for that to happen "flawlessly". Where did you get that from that Ra misses the above point? On contrary, this quote says exactly the opposite: Ra, 55:2 Wrote:There is no magic greater than honest distortion toward love. TheEternal Wrote:The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram was used by them before each working, No, it wasn't: Ra Wrote:103.16 Questioner: Our appropriate time limit for this working, I believe, is rapidly approaching, so I would like to ask what was the problem in this session when twice in this session we had to expel breath over the instrument’s chest? Observe that this was in session 103, almost at the end of the contact. TheEternal Wrote:yet they were still open to the entrance of this 5D being. During their day to day activities, yes, but not during the contact, or Ra workings. TheEternal Wrote:This indicates to me that this 5D being was being called or attracted by aspects of the individuals of the working. Dedication of the group and those of Ra was approaching purity and it was done in service to others. That is what attracted this entity: Ra, 69:5 Wrote:The unique characteristic of the workings which the social memory complex Ra and your group have begun is the intent to serve others with the highest attempt at near purity which we as comrades may achieve. There are other quotes saying similar. What this fifth density entity then did, is to attack the instrument because of her pre-incarnative physical complex distortions: Ra, 67:7 Wrote:In the case of this particular group each was given a full range of temptations to cease being of service to each other and to the One Infinite Creator. Each entity declined these choices and instead continued with no significant deviations from the desire for a purely other-self service orientation. At this point one of the fifth-density entities over-seeing such detuning processes determined that it would be necessary to terminate the group by what you might call magical means, as you understand ritual magic. We have previously discussed the potential for the removal of one of this group by such attack and have noted that by far the most vulnerable is the instrument due to its pre-incarnative physical complex distortions. TheEternal Wrote:The Ra Material is a wonderful source of wealth for philosophical, and metaphysical teachings, but it does not contain within it detailed mechanics for magickal working, lol! I so totally disagree, but giving the examples and quotes of this would take a lot of space. TheEternal Wrote:but places everything within the context of polarization, and often in a black and white manner. While this is useful for polarization, it could be detrimental to an initiate of lesser understanding who is attempting to learn and understand the processes of magickal working. Channeling Yoda I now do, to give a light touch to this one: Mm... ONE intelligent infinity is. ONE intelligent energy is. Mm... See the confusion in Jedi I do. Mm... Confusing a path of a Jedi sometimes is... Seek inside he must...
03-04-2013, 04:59 PM
Thank you for giving Ra's direct view on the subject, naturally, all my words come only from my own perspective, and I admit I have not re-read the material in some time. I would offer response to this, but feel it would only lead to more distortion, so I shall bow out. Blessings to you.
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