06-14-2013, 12:51 AM
The attainment of this balance requires great discipline.
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06-14-2013, 12:51 AM
The attainment of this balance requires great discipline.
06-14-2013, 08:08 PM
(06-14-2013, 12:51 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The attainment of this balance requires great discipline.Understand that the only actual *requirement* is acceptance. Using discipline for that end is generally advised though, because a guide is needed and information which leads to recognition, acknowledgement, and acceptance must be structured according to desire and will. Remember that a particular experiential nexus here in 3D is only ever able to express a small fraction of one's violet ray - which is the balance related to harvesting. It is true that current and prior work in successfully "raising vibration" to a particular level is what contributed to that overall balance. However, it is certainly not the case that action in a lifetime during harvest, such as some discipline, is a requirement to ensure harvest.
06-15-2013, 07:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 08:51 PM by Peregrinus.)
Quote:52.2 Ra: ... To the disciplined entity, all things are open and free. The discipline which opens the universes opens also the gateways to evolution. The difference is that of choosing either to hitchhike to a place where beauty may be seen or to walk, step by step, independent and free in this independence to praise the strength to walk and the opportunity for the awareness of beauty.
06-16-2013, 11:51 AM
Yes, discipline as in guided learning (seeking). I guess it's a paradox that acceptance is primary and learning is a way to arrive at that awareness of self.
06-19-2013, 09:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2013, 09:48 PM by Peregrinus.)
As is it paradoxical that the key to the negative path is control, yet will, which may be employed to control self, is efficacious to the positive seeker.
06-19-2013, 10:06 PM
I should hope not! Nothing but cupcakes and rainbows... I shudder at the thought. :-P
06-19-2013, 10:15 PM
(06-19-2013, 09:40 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: As is it paradoxical that the key to the negative path is control, yet will, which may be employed to control self, is efficacious to the positive seeker.Don't see the paradox there. Will is primary to whatever purpose it's put, and will is efficacious to any seeker. Understand that harvest to 4th density is a function of violet ray, then you may re-evaluate your "somewhat naive" comment.
06-19-2013, 10:41 PM
(06-19-2013, 10:15 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(06-19-2013, 09:40 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: As is it paradoxical that the key to the negative path is control, yet will, which may be employed to control self, is efficacious to the positive seeker.Don't see the paradox there. Will is primary to whatever purpose it's put, and will is efficacious to any seeker. Your intended verbally degrading assault appears, to me, to be an effort at trolling in order to elicit a like response. I am unable to do so, though I do appreciate your effort. At any rate, I believe this is off topic and I thank you for your communicative efforts.
06-20-2013, 12:05 AM
06-20-2013, 03:18 AM
06-20-2013, 08:08 AM
(06-20-2013, 03:18 AM)Ashim Wrote:unless the intent is to simply observe, then observation is the power of the will. here it is not possible to simply observe, just as it's not actually possible to do many things suggested by magical notion.(06-20-2013, 02:38 AM)plenum Wrote: will is just directed consciousness.
04-13-2015, 11:14 AM
I think 4D will be cupcakes and rainbows personally.
04-13-2015, 11:26 AM
04-13-2015, 11:43 AM
(04-13-2015, 11:26 AM)Minyatur Wrote:(04-13-2015, 11:14 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I think 4D will be cupcakes and rainbows personally. I welcome the challenge. It is much less intense than 3D is.
04-18-2015, 03:50 PM
If 4th density is love then love is a rainbow cupcake. Makes sense to me.
04-18-2015, 04:12 PM
I'm sure 4D cupcakes are absolutely delish.
05-07-2015, 03:28 PM
Quote:I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... I believe it is the time/space where the unharvestable souls will stay as long as they need it, not for the graduated entities in 4th density.
05-07-2015, 03:31 PM
I think in 4D we will find rest that we don't find in 3D.
Unless we're serving others all the time. (05-07-2015, 03:31 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I think in 4D we will find rest that we don't find in 3D. 4D would include a heavy retrospective of all past 3D incarnations including all useful thoughts you could have ever had, past traumas, contradictions between convinctions you've had in different lifetimes, etc. Also it wouldn't start off with pefect harmony, you will not be able to hide your thoughts from others and will have to face yourself in a deeper manner as you are confronted with other-selves and their thoughts. It is the density of Love but Love is what is sought and grows throughout the density, not given off the bat in awareness.
05-31-2015, 02:16 AM
I'm fairly certain that the ability to deceive or hide one's thoughts (from others or oneself) is a distortion that can only occur in 3rd Density. Various channels have demonstrated an ability to immediately discern a questioner's intent from their words and often imply they can "read our minds" so to speak. I also find in my own work with my higher selves it is truly and literally impossible for me to hide my thoughts or be anything but honest when consulting with them. (And they're also fairly ruthless about pointing out whenever I'm holding back or trying to deceive myself.)
I would suggest - just from my own experiences - that someone who truly desires the 4D transition would likely find it highly beneficial to focus on their self-image and, specifically, the lies they tell themselves. A person who comes to understand the tendency of humans towards self-deception, and truly works towards reducing such thoughts, would probably be going far towards preparing themselves for the 4D experience.
05-31-2015, 09:22 AM
Yea this whole yearning for 4th density lovey stuff is nothing but a futile attempt at running away fromm ones problems I think. I think it's a scenario of be careful what you wish for.
The reason I say this is that we will be learning love yes but imagine being able to not only see another selfs true emotions but they see yours. In that instant, the other self can say "wow that is how you really feel?" when you actually said something entirely different. This poses an entirely new set of challenges just as apeacefulwarrior mentioned. I agree with adonai. I'm betting 4th density is almost exactly like this density but without the veil. It won't disappoint people by that time as they would be beyond thus 3rd density way of thinking but if one that peak into it from this density, they would find that their hopes would be dashed.
05-31-2015, 02:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2015, 02:04 PM by AnthroHeart.)
I wouldn't mind others knowing my thoughts if I could know theirs. I think less things would disturb us then.
We'd also be able to share dreams.
05-31-2015, 02:05 PM
05-31-2015, 02:06 PM
(05-31-2015, 02:06 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(05-31-2015, 09:22 AM)Jeremy Wrote: It won't disappoint people by that time as they would be beyond thus 3rd density way of thinking but if one that peak into it from this density, they would find that their hopes would be dashed. Would you go into 4D if there was no cupcakes? Or would 3D with cupcakes be better?
05-31-2015, 06:12 PM
I would rather be incarnated into 4D than just jump there. It might fry my field otherwise. Don't care about cupcakes. I understand 4D has its challenges and unique catalyst.
06-04-2015, 04:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-04-2015, 04:33 PM by third-density-being.)
Hello,
Large Part of me hopes/wants to be native third-density-Being and to experience every step of Spiritual Evolution through Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Density. Sometimes I think that if it turns out that I'm sixth density Wanderer for example, I will be in some sense disappointed. And I expect the challenges to be far complex in higher densities – but there will be Knowledge, no Veil to begin with. It gives chances for very conscious decisions/choices in relation to Creator/All-That-Is. All I have Best in me for You
06-04-2015, 04:48 PM
Third density is the illusion of separation, Fourth Density is the knowledge of the spiritual world without the wisdom. There is learning something and reciting it and then there is knowing a subject beyond it's words which seems to come with soul age.
Many people and individuals including Ra mention bringing the focus to the Now rather than the past or the future. The now moment is what simply IS and so I would say in essence it is less separation from Creator. however at unconditional love one is loving one's allies and one's enemies. With no wisdom to apply their energies effectively to a situation instead applying full energies in all directions. i would say fourth dimensional understanding does not include the light that twists beside it, or the knowledge of quantum physics. which is the observer affects the function of the particle by intent. then again this world has been overtaken by light, and there is not enough understanding of the feminine principle, or of learning how to tackle the victim mindset. I believe the victim or the abuser mindset is the main effect of a blocked yellow chakra. Fifth dimensional thinking is starting to see energy coming to you and from you at a certain vibratory quality. Not necessarily good or bad, but being able to take in good and bad and seeing a divine purpose to it or setting the intention to manifest things in the favor of all that is. This would explain why Ra is unable to see how good is the same as evil in their sixth dimensional form. Since Unity consciousness outmodes duality and polarity as a whole. I would say that part of the illusion is believing in set good and bad forces. Everyone is a mixture of the two in varying shades. I also think that the grand lesson as Ra wanted to impart was not to rely on any deities or higher forms since we embody the same creator spark. It would mean we must learn to be our own mothers and fathers.
07-02-2015, 12:28 AM
I think there is always going to be what we call "bull$*it" in any density.
Think of 4D BS.....others know your thoughts, maybe you're not as powerful as you'd like to be, confusion about the nature of reality still, etc. This applies to both positive/negative. 4D positive doesn't mean absolute bliss either, though 100x more harmonious than our "old 3D world". Hey, I'm down with something being 100x better! As is above, so is below. |
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