Are Two Souls Better Than One?
04-29-2020, 07:51 PM,
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RE: Are Two Souls Better Than One?
After a quick look through your book, and with various things related to higher-density dramas on my mind, I looked back through this thread and saw this:
(02-08-2013, 04:40 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  As I subscribe to The Confederation's philosophy of STO, something has been playing on my Mind for some time now...

And that is the seeming dichotomy between their claim that failing to accept that which has been offered depolarises an STO entity and the following from "Secrets of the UFO" ( 1977 - page 53 ):

“This is one way of designating in your own consciousness who is of Christ force and who is of the anti-Christ force. You will see many, who will cry out that there is no God, come and fight shoulder to shoulder with you for peace and love and brotherhood equally for all men for all time. This is truly one who is of the Christ force. Yet you will see others, who profess to be of God, speaking words of God, who say that some are to be saved and some are to be damned. These you will know are not of the Christ light, for the Christ light speaks of brotherhood first and foremost and will defend the right of all men everywhere to share equally with their brothers.”

I'm having difficulty reconciling these two concepts!!!

I'm not suggesting any flaw or discrepancy in The Confederation's philosophy as brought to us through L/L, but I am personally finding it difficult accepting all of the violence, greed, artificial concepts of separation and oppression levied by the few against oh so many!

Where do I / we go from here?

Though your question is nearing being 7 years old, it's a topic I have been thinking about. I think a fuller answer has plenty to do with the future of this planet, with the invisible dynamics to come possibly spanning the full range.

Above 4D, "fighting" becomes obsolete, as the mode of existence is drastically different in basic characteristics.
At and below 4D, "fighting" still happens as clashes of that kind are possible and will happen when the environment contains the ingredients.
Wanderers from above 4D who end up in 3D and/or 4D will end up in modes of existence where fighting is a possibility.

Purity of polarity, while good (simply put) is not always the best long-term choice. In lower-density environments, constraints and trade-offs define life in all aspects having to do with the lower-density existence. Thus, there's often hard choices having to do with short-term good vs. long-term good. 5D beings and above in their native environments have it way easier in that regard.

A simple metaphor illustrates the hard choice of purity vs. a defensive fight.

Imagine that you are one person in a small group which is targeted by the Nazis. You and the rest will be annihilated unless action is taken in time. One option is a short time of purity of love, followed by agony, and then the absence of a future. A different option is to prepare an escape, possibly making use of a violent ambush, and then make a positive future for yourselves at a safe distance. The second option is less pure, but its positivity grows in the long term consequences.

4D battles between STO and STS societies are about environments, groups of souls, and their fates. The positivity of the future of a planet, or even just a smaller society or environment, may be understood by STO participants to be worth the short-term fight, though it means a short-term gap in positive expression. But the fight, with 4D STO participants, is not about personal vengeance or vendettas, but rather about the larger cause understood to be worth the effort.
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04-29-2020, 08:23 PM,
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RE: Are Two Souls Better Than One?
(04-29-2020, 07:51 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:  After a quick look through your book, and with various things related to higher-density dramas on my mind, I looked back through this thread and saw this:

(02-08-2013, 04:40 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  As I subscribe to The Confederation's philosophy of STO, something has been playing on my Mind for some time now...

And that is the seeming dichotomy between their claim that failing to accept that which has been offered depolarises an STO entity and the following from "Secrets of the UFO" ( 1977 - page 53 ):

“This is one way of designating in your own consciousness who is of Christ force and who is of the anti-Christ force. You will see many, who will cry out that there is no God, come and fight shoulder to shoulder with you for peace and love and brotherhood equally for all men for all time. This is truly one who is of the Christ force. Yet you will see others, who profess to be of God, speaking words of God, who say that some are to be saved and some are to be damned. These you will know are not of the Christ light, for the Christ light speaks of brotherhood first and foremost and will defend the right of all men everywhere to share equally with their brothers.”

I'm having difficulty reconciling these two concepts!!!

I'm not suggesting any flaw or discrepancy in The Confederation's philosophy as brought to us through L/L, but I am personally finding it difficult accepting all of the violence, greed, artificial concepts of separation and oppression levied by the few against oh so many!

Where do I / we go from here?

Though your question is nearing being 7 years old, it's a topic I have been thinking about. I think a fuller answer has plenty to do with the future of this planet, with the invisible dynamics to come possibly spanning the full range.

Above 4D, "fighting" becomes obsolete, as the mode of existence is drastically different in basic characteristics.
At and below 4D, "fighting" still happens as clashes of that kind are possible and will happen when the environment contains the ingredients.
Wanderers from above 4D who end up in 3D and/or 4D will end up in modes of existence where fighting is a possibility.

Purity of polarity, while good (simply put) is not always the best long-term choice. In lower-density environments, constraints and trade-offs define life in all aspects having to do with the lower-density existence. Thus, there's often hard choices having to do with short-term good vs. long-term good. 5D beings and above in their native environments have it way easier in that regard.

A simple metaphor illustrates the hard choice of purity vs. a defensive fight.

Imagine that you are one person in a small group which is targeted by the Nazis. You and the rest will be annihilated unless action is taken in time. One option is a short time of purity of love, followed by agony, and then the absence of a future. A different option is to prepare an escape, possibly making use of a violent ambush, and then make a positive future for yourselves at a safe distance. The second option is less pure, but its positivity grows in the long term consequences.

4D battles between STO and STS societies are about environments, groups of souls, and their fates. The positivity of the future of a planet, or even just a smaller society or environment, may be understood by STO participants to be worth the short-term fight, though it means a short-term gap in positive expression. But the fight, with 4D STO participants, is not about personal vengeance or vendettas, but rather about the larger cause understood to be worth the effort.

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05-01-2020, 01:30 PM,
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There's some symbolic things related to Cassiopaea which I haven't described yet. I was shaken up a bit when finding one more piece in your book. On that part of the missing context, and more of the missing details having to do with 6D STO vs. the other side in my posts, here's the main things. (The more general picture can now be read about in my own wanderer's story thread.)

Two things from Cassiopaean sessions:
- Don Elkins killed himself to end "the noise", as in a psychic onslaught.
- "April 1st drop dead date", with no explanation and the Cassiopaea forum speculations over the years not arriving at any clear answer.

And then the detail that Carla died on April 1st, 2015.

In May 2015, not having read that detail, I went through inner upheaval. Without being able to place the dark symbolism in space and time, I felt responsible for someone's death, for having allowed something to happen. I also had a vision of having "been with Nazis". Then, over the next few months, sudden shifts in what came through the subconscious, and in August, an inner contact leading to leaving the Cassiopaea community behind.

I am also reminded of the Cassiopaean prediction that the next 6D contact will be symbolized by "Leo". On Leo, in 2006, there was the claim, "Leo three nights", followed up by "U have passed a test", meaning that "Mother Cassiopaea still rules".

In November 2015, the clear and compassionate guidance by my higher self became submerged in noisy chaos. A Cassiopaean session then claimed that they had "won a battle" at another level. Sessions before and after that relate to the dramatic arrival of "the help" for them, "the help" later stopping and then resuming its "movement" and supposed future arrival.

In June 2016, I had a vision of having ended up in the middle of a psychic hierarchy, yet able to see the connections reaching "upwards" all the way. Something like a traumatic memory seemed triggered, and mental representations of group and psychic configurations flashed through my mind, a "syntax" set up for use if I needed to fight my way out.

In July 2016, I received an inner message which led to a decisive parting with the Cassiopaea community, at first by simply being absent for 3 years. At one point writing a self-channeled message which claimed that "staying and fighting" was not acceptable and that what was important was "documenting the events". I may later post a thread about the curious prayer I wrote to a helping "guardian angel".

What now? My inner guidance suggests that the future will turn out far better than I am able to see at this point at this level. As for the Cassiopaea community, I think they had invisible power struggles going on at a different level in the years I merely observed things. I think the main faction may have been surprised when I cut all connections without playing the games it seemed to hope would be played.
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05-01-2020, 05:25 PM,
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(05-01-2020, 01:30 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:  There's some symbolic things related to Cassiopaea which I haven't described yet. I was shaken up a bit when finding one more piece in your book. On that part of the missing context, and more of the missing details having to do with 6D STO vs. the other side in my posts, here's the main things. (The more general picture can now be read about in my own wanderer's story thread.)

Two things from Cassiopaean sessions:
- Don Elkins killed himself to end "the noise", as in a psychic onslaught.
- "April 1st drop dead date", with no explanation and the Cassiopaea forum speculations over the years not arriving at any clear answer.

And then the detail that Carla died on April 1st, 2015.

In May 2015, not having read that detail, I went through inner upheaval. Without being able to place the dark symbolism in space and time, I felt responsible for someone's death, for having allowed something to happen. I also had a vision of having "been with Nazis". Then, over the next few months, sudden shifts in what came through the subconscious, and in August, an inner contact leading to leaving the Cassiopaea community behind.

I am also reminded of the Cassiopaean prediction that the next 6D contact will be symbolized by "Leo". On Leo, in 2006, there was the claim, "Leo three nights", followed up by "U have passed a test", meaning that "Mother Cassiopaea still rules".

In November 2015, the clear and compassionate guidance by my higher self became submerged in noisy chaos. A Cassiopaean session then claimed that they had "won a battle" at another level. Sessions before and after that relate to the dramatic arrival of "the help" for them, "the help" later stopping and then resuming its "movement" and supposed future arrival.

In June 2016, I had a vision of having ended up in the middle of a psychic hierarchy, yet able to see the connections reaching "upwards" all the way. Something like a traumatic memory seemed triggered, and mental representations of group and psychic configurations flashed through my mind, a "syntax" set up for use if I needed to fight my way out.

In July 2016, I received an inner message which led to a decisive parting with the Cassiopaea community, at first by simply being absent for 3 years. At one point writing a self-channeled message which claimed that "staying and fighting" was not acceptable and that what was important was "documenting the events". I may later post a thread about the curious prayer I wrote to a helping "guardian angel".

What now? My inner guidance suggests that the future will turn out far better than I am able to see at this point at this level. As for the Cassiopaea community, I think they had invisible power struggles going on at a different level in the years I merely observed things. I think the main faction may have been surprised when I cut all connections without playing the games it seemed to hope would be played.

All I've got to say is that lodestones are used to fend off these kinds of things.

A genie 'djinn' in a bottle probably came from someone with a glass bottle of magnetic stones used to ward off energy/chaotic spirits by absorbing them in to the natural magnets. Magnets have a force field in them, and something as subtle as an apparition would not have a chance of escaping.
After absorbing all this toxic energy, adding water would disintegrate the iron by rusting them

I've read in some places that it's foolish to think all entities are to be trusted. Some could lie, present themselves as allies when they have negative intentions. In the same way you don't trust everyone who knocks at your door, why should you trust every entity in a Ouija board?
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05-02-2020, 07:12 AM,
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(05-01-2020, 01:30 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:  There's some symbolic things related to Cassiopaea which I haven't described yet. I was shaken up a bit when finding one more piece in your book. 
Greetings A, 

This sentence has me curious, care to elaborate?

There's one thing I've been meaning to say about my relationship with The C's material, and that is, that I suppose I owe its existence at least a little bit of gratitude, because if I hadn't read the material, I may never have discovered L/L's output and the positive effects that discovery has had on my life.

Also, without any study of the C's messages, I would not have discovered what I have come to refer to as "The Recipe". ( It's a recipe to something, I just don't know exactly what! )  This "recipe", I believe was instrumental in what those of Q'uo described as "an Indigo-Ray blow-through" in January 2001. 

The essay describing this event can be found at the end of my book, see "My Millennial PLEASEME".

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05-02-2020, 03:30 PM,
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(05-02-2020, 07:12 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  
(05-01-2020, 01:30 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:  There's some symbolic things related to Cassiopaea which I haven't described yet. I was shaken up a bit when finding one more piece in your book. 
Greetings A, 

This sentence has me curious, care to elaborate?

It was the quote from Jim McCarty about Carla's passing, which I had not read before. The date mentioned being the additional detail which clicked into place.

(05-02-2020, 07:12 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  There's one thing I've been meaning to say about my relationship with The C's material, and that is, that I suppose I owe its existence at least a little bit of gratitude, because if I hadn't read the material, I may never have discovered L/L's output and the positive effects that discovery has had on my life.

Also, without any study of the C's messages, I would not have discovered what I have come to refer to as "The Recipe". ( It's a recipe to something, I just don't know exactly what! )  This "recipe", I believe was instrumental in what those of Q'uo described as "an Indigo-Ray blow-through" in January 2001. 

I have also learned a lot from it. Very generally, a whole lot of things are brought together into a most compact synthesis in the channeling, and also in the books "The Wave" by the main channel Laura.

What I learned more lately is that the synthesis is a bit too simple. It discards some of the most basic things brought into view in the Ra channeling, which is curious in a work which is said to be from the same source. Learning from the Cassiopaean Experiment can, in some ways, make for a faster journey, but in an imbalanced way and with something left muddied and incomplete.

I have been torn on how to write about it all, in the thread about it, since "it all" encompasses so much, including learning. I don't want to make it a rant, and I hope to make it maximally informative.

(05-02-2020, 07:12 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  The essay describing this event can be found at the end of my book, see "My Millennial PLEASEME".

On that note, I found a typo. It says that the Cassiopaean material made you "exited", rather than "excited". Each of the 3 occurrences of the word "exited" is the same typo.
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08-21-2020, 11:48 AM,
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(05-02-2020, 03:30 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:  
(05-02-2020, 07:12 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  The essay describing this event can be found at the end of my book, see "My Millennial PLEASEME".

On that note, I found a typo. It says that the Cassiopaean material made you "exited", rather than "excited". Each of the 3 occurrences of the word "exited" is the same typo.

Thanks for pointing out my typo, I've corrected the text.

This made me chuckle though, as it could be said that at that point in my life I had exited consensus "reality"!  Wink
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08-25-2020, 12:52 AM,
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(01-14-2010, 05:42 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:  My story as a Human being starts in the early seventies, born to a teenage Catholic couple, it is not surprising that they decided to give me up for adoption.

I was adopted by Mr. and Mrs. Kent at the age of eight months old and I could not have a better set of parents than them, and I consider them my true parents.

I always felt different during my childhood, which, for many years, I attributed to the fact that I was adopted.

I had a mostly happy childhood, with a large extended family, who were totally accepting and supportive, with the only sadness coming from my awareness of the horrors of abortion…

My parents were heavily involved in the anti-abortion movement and I spent much of my spare time as a child helping out with their campaigning, which, however controversial, set me off early on a Service-To-Others path.

Perhaps it was inappropriate and somewhat naïve of my parents to expose me to such horrific images as found on the anti-abortion leaflets that were in my family home, but being exposed to such darkness made me seek the light with more vigour than I might have otherwise done.

The first tell-tale signs that I may be a Wanderer occurred when I was just seven tears old when I was hospitalised for a month with arthritis.

Even though I did not react well to the teachings of Catholicism, the STO ethic of my family stayed with me and at the age of fifteen, had a prolonged and intense green-ray ( Heart-Chakra ) experience, which I theorise was when I first graduated, at least, Spiritually.

Quoting a lovely and genuine nun, I had what she described as a “Cloud-Nine” experience, which she told me were rare but not unheard of in her experience.

When this experienced ceased, I did the usual teenage thing of taking drugs, starting out with Alcohol and Tobacco and eventually moving on to other drugs during the era of Rave at the very beginning of my twenties.

I do not know whether the frequent intense green-ray experiences I had were genuine STO Love, or just the result of the Serotonin flooding my brain as a result of the MDMA I had consumed - or both?

Even though I had been working in retail since the age of sixteen, during the Rave days, I became involved in supplying my friends with drugs and got into serious trouble with the authorities for these activities.

I only mention this because a few weeks after we were first busted, I went with those friends to a Rave, and took far too many drugs and had a heart attack in the middle of 16,000 people and whilst recovering had a telepathic conversation with a non-Human entity and was offered the opportunity to stay on the Earthly plane, an opportunity which I took.

It has only recently occurred to me that this experience was a Sub-Conscious attempt at suicide, perhaps motivated by the heartbreak I had felt most of my life coupled together with the dread of the impending court case and probable incarceration.

Whatever the hidden motivation behind the act of consuming too much, on a conscious level, I thought that I was indestructible, such is the foolhardy naivety of youth.

What I feel is more important though is the question of why a 6th density Walk-In would choose to offer to save this particular physical vehicle I ( we ) inhabit, and I now theorise that it has everything to do with The Harvest…

Either this body was worth saving because it had graduated and become dual-activated, or I was close to achieving this, or I hadn’t graduated at all and the 6th d entity wanted to save me from disappearing down the “sinkhole of indifference”.

It would be many years later that I would re-examine this experience and seek out its true meaning.

Fortunately for me, the court case, resulted in convictions but did not result in any period of incarceration, and we were let off lightly with a period of community-service.

I continued my career in retail / customer-service until the shock death of my father in 1995, which, not surprisingly, was emotionally devastating.

I eventually recovered from that emotional breakdown and started my own retail business in 1998.

This business disintegrated at the same time as my 6 month old marriage disintegrated and I lost virtually everything, including my will to live, in 1999. (No wonder I don’t like the number 9! )

Even though I found this period of my life profoundly devastating, it would seem to me that the STO ethic I had carried over from my upbringing served me well, and I theorise that my second / newer Soul graduated during this period.

In 2000, I moved to the coast to attempt to recover from my nervous-breakdown and make an album…

It was during this time that I found myself spending a lot of time communing with nature, and I can clearly remember making the decision to renew my friendship with Gaia and Sol, which I did, and this was motivated purely by instinct. ( it would be another year before I discovered any contemporary Channeling or study of metaphysics, with my only prior experience of metaphysics coming from my Catholic programming! )

The lifestyle I was living was not financially sustainable on the restricted income I then had and I had to move back to my home town at the end of 2000.

During this period of reflection, meditation and music-making, I had come to the realisation that I had too much I wanted to say to fit into the lyrics of many albums, and so I decided to embark on the creation of a book of philosophy.

It is now, January 2001, and I was in the process of writing my book…

Motivated by the desire to pursue the interests of one of my childhood heroes, namely Jim Morrison, I had become fascinated by the notion of the “Universal Mind” and the practices of Shamanism, half way through the original draft of my book I had, for the first time in my life, access to the internet and so I stated searching for info reading these subjects.

And so, on the 15th January 2001, I discovered a website of supposed Channeling from a group who claimed to be representatives of 6th density STO, namely the Cassiopaeans…

The full description of what happened next requires a 10 page essay, and although I am days away from completing the rewrite of this, I do not want to bore you with its inclusion in this post.

To offer a brief description of what happened, I had what would later be described by Q’uo in a personal session, an “Indigo-Ray Blow-Through” and saw atomic-structure and then my 3rd d self next to what I assume was my 6th d self.

I found this profoundly mysterious experience totally confusing and overwhelming at the time, which led to a few misinterpretations as to what had actually occurred which led to my family becoming concerned and so I ended up in the intensive-care unit of my local psychiatric institution.

Regardless of the hypocrisy and oppression forced against me basically for my Spiritual beliefs, I do not regret this experience in the slightest as it was easily the most beautiful, wonderful and amazing I have ever had.

And even though it took, what remains of my ego, many years to accept the violation of my free-will leading from the shrink’s  opinion that I have a psychotic illness, I do not even regret this determination, as I am effectively out of the Rat-Race indefinitely, and what I do for others is motivated by a STO ethic and not a pay-packet!

I was released from hospital after the 28 day “sectioning” and have kept out ever since.

In my subsequent study of the Cassiopaean material, I eventually came across references to the Ra material and started to study it.

I have since formed the opinion that the two paradigms clash considerably and the Cassiopaean material contradicts The Confederation’s paradigm on many important subjects and I felt that I had to make a personal choice as to which paradigm I would continue to put my faith in…

As I’m here on this forum, the choice I made as to which paradigm to put my faith in is obvious!

In early 2005, I learned that Carla was planning a speaking trip to Britain, and so I contacted L/L to arrange a personal channelling session during her time here.

During my session with Q’uo I learned that my assumption that my original Soul was replaced by a Walk-In during the over-dose at the Rave was incorrect and that both Souls still inhabit this body…

I also learned that during my “Indigo-Ray-Blow-Through” the vision I had was actually me witnessing with my “Third-Eye” atomic-structure…

Suffice to sat that I was rather shocked to discover these revelations, however much they now make sense to me in a way that has deep resonance for me.

Prior to my personal session, I had theorised that I was a Wanderer and / or Walk-In, which is why I assume that Q’uo was happy to confirm that this is the case without violating the “Law Of Confusion”.

So here we are in 2010...

Even though I suspect that I am dual-activated, with Q’uo hinting at such, I am not prepared to give up on polarizing or serving The Creator in whatever form it chooses to incarnate as…

But I didn’t need a channeling source to convince me to dedicate myself to Service-To-Others, it has always been in my nature to be STO!

This is the year that I finally finish my book of philosophy and I am looking forward to concentrating on my music once this is complete.

As you may have guessed, my life has been one hell of a roller-coaster-ride…

Would I choose to change anything about my past knowing what I know now - probably - but that wont happen - so I feel that I must be most grateful for the wonderful opportunity I have as a Human-being…

To Love, to Give and to Serve.

As to the title of this post, “are two Souls better than one?” my response would probably be “no”…

Yes, I feel the Love of two Souls, but I also feel the pain and frustration of two Souls…

The positive aspects of Human existence are amplified but so also are the negatives.

Yes, I am incredibly homesick, but we knew that this would happen before we came “here” and whinging about it will serve nobody!!!!

Compared to the vast majority of Humanity, I live a life of relative luxury and freedom, and although it may seem that this is not the case - I am grateful to be “here”!!!!

Please feel free to ask any question you have regarding my life - it would be an honour to respond.

For the sake of Love and Light

We are Jim Kent

Fascinating story. I wonder why it is that we all come to understand the reason for our sense of alienation (interesting word) at different times. Is it perhaps a pre-incarnative choice? I came to spiritual life in my late 20s/early 30s. Now, several years later, I have come across the Ra Material and realised that this resonates deeply with me and the concept of the "wanderer" in particular provides me with a much more healing perspective. I always thought that something was wrong with me and that I was alone, but realising that this is a spiritual state of affairs has made me less critical of myself.
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