If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
06-05-2018, 04:01 AM,
RE: If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
the shuttle of the soul consists of many different parts. it is a "complex" it is not necessarily complex in structure. Eacch archetype is a group of smaller archetypes functining within that complex.

Just like a military base is a complex of buildings and roads and machines that makes up the military base itself, and yet the base itself is just a complex within the complex of the military unit which is just a complex within the scope of the nation that it defends.

Studying Carl Jung's definitions of an archetype complex lays this out rather well as he attempts to categorize and list each complex. this is of course where Don began with his questions that leaves us using these words over and over in the sessions.
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11-09-2018, 01:11 AM,
RE: If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
(02-22-2014, 06:56 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote:  
βαθμιαίος Wrote:I guess what I'm trying to understand is what role the archetypes of the spirit play in the integration of the upreaching mind/body energy with the downpouring infinite intelligence.


What is the structure of the shuttle that is the spirit? Or, put another way, how do the matrix, potentiator, etc., of the spirit relate to the fact that it is a shuttle?

Setting aside the numerous other comments and uncertainties to which I could add my own perceptions and intuitions, to your questions at least I will formulate an answer.

Are you at every moment your most authentic self? To what degree do you interrupt the free flow of your infinite existence through mental machinations or bodily urges?

While contact with Intelligent Infinity is a passport to the infinite dimensions and universes, which of us has earned that passport?

If the spirit were not complex, there would be no need to seek that passport. It would already be in your pocket and you could simply will yourself to commune with Intelligent Infinity in whatever way you choose. The complexity of the spirit lies in the great difficulty we all have in (a) locating the "true self" (or whatever you want to call it) out of the array of dimly perceived attitudes about the self including most notably fears and dreams, (b) distinguishing it from the "ego" (or whatever you want to call it) through walking in faith while attempting to discriminate between the faith of the true self and the habits of the ego, © existing in the consciousness of that true self at all times, and (d) magnifying this existence until it equals the light of noon. In short, the complexity of the spirit can be seen readily in the slow process of enlightenment.

The connection between this process and the spirit's function as a channel is fairly easy to grasp: when the mind is complex, it invents mazes and illusions for itself. It doesn't trust its gut or its intuition. These mental attitudes can be thought of as debris that gets sent upward into the spirit complex, clogging the channel. It is not a distortion within in the spirit itself, but a distortion in the contact between mind and spirit, revealing some of the spirit, but hiding much of it. What little still gets through the channel between mind and spirit on the shuttle of spirit is what you may identify as your true self. When the mind holds on to this state of consciousness, it can widen the channel and fuel the shuttle. Eventually, the shuttle can make it all the way to Intelligent Infinity and back with your consciousness intact.

When you are in perfect synchronization with the true self (i.e. when you have reached enlightenment), there is nothing hidden from view, no greater purpose in your life which shields itself from your perception, no hidden inner agendas. Your presence is powerful and commands respect, but it is gentle and earns love.

Nicely said, and spirit to me can largerlu be summed up as The True Authentic Identity(what we identify with as self).
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11-09-2018, 03:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-09-2018, 03:40 AM by GentleReckoning.)
RE: If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
It seems like the answer is pretty well offered here, but I'll add my two cents. It's primarily your foundation. The quality of your foundation determining the distance, freedom, and duration that your spirit shuttle can leave the Earth. It then returning back to balance all of the accumulated learnings/communications/catalyst.

Otherwise, the foundation is only present inasmuch as it is negative. Once the foundation is well established, then it is possible to travel with a highly positive charge and intention. Returning back with a negative charge as that is naturally how travel is accomplished. Positive outflow, negative snap back. The positive then re-growing as life provides catalyst, catalyst is balanced, and the desired charge is accumulated by the seeker.

This kind of travel requires a near-total balancing of all aspects of the foundation. Dependent on the various societal pyramidal complexes that support the individual in their day-to-day life. Until all is balanced, the negative charge will be experienced as various illnesses in the bodies. These communicating subtler and subtler distortions to be balanced.

This kind of activity creating an individual that is highly effective in regards to all aspects of their incarnational experience.
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11-09-2018, 10:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-10-2018, 09:16 AM by Nau7ik. Edit Reason: More info )
RE: If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
For my understanding of the spirit, the complexity of the spirit is best explained by looking at the correspondences on the Tree of Life. This is how I learned what the the spirit and soul are. Because these terms are always vague, hardly defined.
The spirit is composed of the Neshamah, the higher self, while the lower two faculties, ruach (rational intellect) and nephesh (lower unconscious), correspond to the soul. Let’s look at this in-depth:

Quote:The Higher Self, considered in the first instance as a unity, gives meaning and co-ordination to the faculties of the psyche. In one sense, it can be understood as forming a triune with Ruach and Nephesh, completing and crowning their work: in this context the word Neshamah would be applied to the Higher Self as a whole. If Nephesh and Ruach together form the soul with its subrational and rational faculties, the Higher Self constitutes what is frequently referred to as the spirit. Here we make reference again to the Four Worlds: for as the conjunction of all things is in man, so the Worlds are represented in his nature, and so correspondingly he exists in all Four Worlds. The Ruach participated in the World of Briah: it’s knowedge of the astral and material worlds is gained entirely through the Nephesh and through the brain-consciousness, while, equally, it is in itself incapable of knowing directly anything of the World of Atziluth. Until the higher faculties are to some extent brought into communication with its consciousness, the exercise of pure reason may seem to it the highest function of which the psyche is capable: hence the antagonistic skepticism of the traditional type of “intellectual” when the intuitive faculty comes under discussion. So low a limit however cannot be set to the true nature of the Ruach: it should from its place in the structure of the psyche be a vehicle to the higher faculties, even when it’s knowledge of them amounts only to a confused awareness of the existence of “something beyond.” This confusion is, indeed, characteristic of Neshamah-awareness before the mystical experience of the higher faculties comes to the Ruach. For this reason, without such experience, the highest awareness which the Ruach can have of the Archetypes subsisting in the Divine Mind, is through their images and from conclusions intellectually deduced therefrom. This is not said for the purpose of belittling the understanding at that stage... Furthermore, in the initiatory plan, this first opening of the intellect to the influence of the Neshamah is implicit in the entrance into the degree of Minor Adept which at once sets the initiate quite apart from those who know nothing higher than the Ruach’a rational function, and of course miles apart from those who are guided by the external doctrines and the blind faith of a formal religion.

-The Sword and the Serpent by Melita Denning & Osborne Phillips

A Qabalistic understanding of spirit seems to resonate with what Ra said about the spirit acting as a shuttle. The ruach in its highest capacity, invokes the intuitive mind, activating the shuttle of the spirit. This is again shown in the name of Jesus Christ, Yod Heh SHIN Vau Heh. Shin descending into the midsts of the elemental Tetragrammaton. The Hebrew letter Shin corresponding to spirit.
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11-10-2018, 11:03 AM,
RE: If the spirit is a shuttle, how can it be complex?
(11-09-2018, 10:02 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:  The spirit is composed of the Neshamah, the higher self, while the lower two faculties, ruach (rational intellect) and nephesh (lower unconscious), correspond to the soul.

Three parts of the soul according to kabbalah:
Nefesh - (animal) soul - resides in body, instincts, physical desires ...
Ruach - spirit - conscience, emotions ...
Neshama - higher soul - pulls the man towards God ...

Some sources even add two or three more ...

I've found The Glassblower Analogy in Kabbalah:

Quote:God's exhaling a soul can be compared to a glassblower forming a vessel. The breath (neshama) first leaves his lips, travels as a wind (ruach) and finally comes to rest (nefesh) in the vessel. Of these three levels of the soul, neshama is therefore the highest and closes to God, while nefesh is that aspect of the soul residing in the body. Ruach stands between the two, binding man to his spiritual Source. It is for this reason that Divine Inspiration is called Ruach HaKodesh in Hebrew.

Grace to you and peace from God our Father.
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