05-12-2015, 12:21 AM
(05-06-2015, 02:03 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Makes me think of:Quote:Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn.
Jeremy Wrote:Hmm now that I read the entire passage with more context a few more times, I'm wondering if this was a personal message to them rather than something to be applied to everyone. It sounds as if their entire reason for incarnating was to do this channeling. This teach/learn and learn/teach activity was their sole purpose in life.Nicholas Wrote:I think they are essentially saying that the purest way to learn/teach or teach/learn is by example. To be yourself is to teach others how to be. Our unique version of infinity needs to be expressed as this is what is lacking on our planet. Fearless expression is the go to service!isis Wrote:IMO, almost every activity can fall into the category of learning or teaching - including the ones you've mentioned. I'll explain how i think that healing & meditating fall into those categories upon request.
Also, how does one learn what will happen in the next moment of their life? By simply existing. So, by simply existing we are engaging in the only activity worth doing, the way I see it.
Or maybe I'm confused about what learn/teach / teach/learn means...Jade Wrote:I think meditation falls under teach/learning. Maybe healing too (the healer only offers themselves as catalyst; the healee must recognize and accept this new way of being into themselves; learning/being taught.
I think learn/teaching and teach/learning are analogous to expansion of thought. I think Ra is encouraging everyone to be more inclusive with themselves.anagogy Wrote:There are no activities that do not involve learn/teaching or teach/learning so all the examples you could conceivably provide would, by necessity, be some example of those.
Your very existence is an example that other souls will use to further their understanding of the one infinite creator. Just as you can't not serve the creator, you can't not teach/learn or learn/teach.
I found the various interpretations of this statement particularly interesting. It's another one where I can agree with all of them in some way. However, I think the interpretation that all activities are essentially teach/learning is a bit too broad for this context. If there is nothing that falls outside of the realm of teach/learning, what is the point of the statement? They might as well say "it is the only activity worth doing: anything and everything." They are speaking specifically about teaching and learning here. Although I definitely agree with the idea that healing could be a form of teach/learning.
I think Jeremy has a good point given the context. I made the grave error of plucking a quote out of its context when the following sentences offer some more insight into what Ra is saying: "To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make"
Ra seems to be speaking specifically about Don in the following sentences, so it may be a message meant for him and/or the group in the context of their mission. But the message is applicable in a broader sense though, given the sentence - "There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many."
Ra seems to be making a correlation between teach/learning / learn/teaching and "your very being." But, what is the "nothing else which is of aid"? This again seems to imply that there are activities which fall outside of this realm, but perhaps I am interpreting learn/teaching too narrowly, even if it isn't as broad as everything.
"52.2 Questioner: Thank you. I think that possibly I am on an important point here because it seems to me that the great work in evolution is the discipline of personality, and it seems that we have two types of moving around the universe, one stemming from disciplines of personality, and the other stemming from what you call the slingshot effect. I won’t even get into the sub-light speeds because I don’t consider that too important. And I only consider this material important with respect to the fact that we are investigating discipline of the personality.
Does the use of the slingshot effect for travel, is that a what you might call an intellectual or a left brain type of involvement of understanding rather than a right brain type?
Ra: I am Ra. Your perception on this point is extensive. You penetrate the outer teaching. We prefer not to utilize the terminology of right and left brain due to the inaccuracies of this terminology. Some functions are repetitive or redundant in both lobes, and further, to some entities the functions of the right and left are reversed. However, the heart of the query is worth some consideration.
The technology of which you, as a social complex, are so enamored at this time is but the birthing of the manipulation of the intelligent energy of the sub-Logos which, when carried much further, may evolve into technology capable of using the gravitic effects of which we spoke. We note that this term is not accurate but there is no closer term.
Therefore, the use of technology to manipulate that outside the self is far, far less of an aid to personal evolution than the disciplines of the mind/body/spirit complex resulting in the whole knowledge of the self in the microcosm and macrocosm.
To the disciplined entity, all things are open and free. The discipline which opens the universes opens also the gateways to evolution. The difference is that of choosing either to hitchhike to a place where beauty may be seen or to walk, step by step, independent and free in this independence to praise the strength to walk and the opportunity for the awareness of beauty.
The hitchhiker, instead, is distracted by conversation and the vagaries of the road and, dependent upon the whims of others, is concerned to make the appointment in time. The hitchhikersees the same beauty but has not prepared itself for the establishment, in the roots of mind, of the experience."
and this is interesting:
"34.12 Questioner: I thought that that was correct, but I wasn’t sure. Can you give me the same type of information that we have been getting here with respect to the unmanifested self interacting between self and gadgets, toys, etc.— inventions?
Ra: I am Ra. In this particular instance we again concentrate for the most part in the orange and in the yellow energy centers. In a negative sense many of the gadgets among your peoples, that is what you call your communication devices and other distractions such as the less competitive games, may be seen to have the distortion of keeping the mind/body/spirit complex unactivated so that yellow- and orange-ray activity is much weakened thus carefully decreasing the possibility of eventual green-ray activation.
Others of your gadgets may be seen to be tools whereby the entity explores the capabilities of its physical or mental complexes and in some few cases, the spiritual complex, thus activating the orange ray in what you call your team sports and in other gadgets such as your modes of transport. These may be seen to be ways of investigating the feelings of power; more especially, power over others or a group power over another group of other-selves."
And theres this:
"Ra: I am Ra. Without infringing upon free will we feel it possible to state that the Faraday cage and the isolation tank are gadgets.
[font=sans-serif]The surrounding of self in a sylvan atmosphere, apart from distractions, in a place of working used for no other purpose, in which you and your associates agree to lay aside all goals but that of the meditative seeking of the Infinite Creator is, shall we say, not gadgetry but the making use of the creation of the Father in second-density love, and in the love and support of other-selves. Are there any brief queries before this working is at an end?"[/font]
I get the feeling just like the opposable thumb idea and the tendency that creates, according to Ra's opinion. There is indeed a tendency in those leaning towards relying on external means for inner/outter experience. And those who seek within in what I see as a less distorted fashion making little to no use of any external gadgetry.
I feel like Ra is putting emphasis on the un-importance of gadgets in comparison to seeking Within in a balanced manner. One gadget might lead to another and another. Next thing you know a whole society is completely dependent on gadgets (ahem) and this creates space or a prone-ness, as I see it, for Negative distortions such as power and control over others.