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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Welcoming Our Death]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20147</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2022 01:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12539">jafar</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[From the time I was born in this forum, I'm well aware that my existence and also this forum existence is temporary.<br />
Since the "logos" of this reality has announced the death date of my active participation in this reality.<br />
I would like to say thank you to all identities on this reality. <br />
And would like to apologize for any unintended harm that my identity, jafar has caused to any other identities here.<br />
<br />
Luckily the contract on this reality does not mandate jafar to also erase / reset his memory of all of his experience here.<br />
Thus the memory will still survive.<br />
And may we meet in other form of realities.<br />
I might assume other form of identity and I might hail any of you with "I was jafar on bring4th.org".<br />
<br />
Cheers! light and love of the one infinite creator is always shining through us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From the time I was born in this forum, I'm well aware that my existence and also this forum existence is temporary.<br />
Since the "logos" of this reality has announced the death date of my active participation in this reality.<br />
I would like to say thank you to all identities on this reality. <br />
And would like to apologize for any unintended harm that my identity, jafar has caused to any other identities here.<br />
<br />
Luckily the contract on this reality does not mandate jafar to also erase / reset his memory of all of his experience here.<br />
Thus the memory will still survive.<br />
And may we meet in other form of realities.<br />
I might assume other form of identity and I might hail any of you with "I was jafar on bring4th.org".<br />
<br />
Cheers! light and love of the one infinite creator is always shining through us all.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Announcing the Re-launch of Bring4th]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20146</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=3498">Patrick</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear fellow seekers: the recent decision to convert Bring4th into an archive was made for a number of reasons, of which includes the forums evolving in a way that became unsustainable for L/L Research and its volunteer webmaster.<br />
<br />
After the announcement was made to archive Bring4th, a range of mixed emotions were expressed within the community. In reading through the responses, I felt compelled on my own initiative to approach L/L and offer to continue supporting the community, but in a scaled back fashion. As it so happens, both Steve (Bring4th_Steve) and I had contacted L/L with very similar proposals. So we got together to discuss our endeavor and both agreed over the importance of continuing to support the categories that are the most helpful and informative for seekers, along with newcomers to the Law of One material and Confederation philosophy.<br />
<br />
Steve and I are currently setting up a new board through Bring4th. While it will still be an L/L Research service, Bring4th will be run relatively autonomously by us as administrators, with periodic check-ins with L/L management.<br />
<br />
One of the exciting improvements for the new discussion board is fixing the known problems of the old forums by adopting a brand new collaboration service. The chosen platform will hopefully provide the community with a modernized style and new features that will improve the quality and ease of group discussions. <br />
<br />
As mentioned above, we are planning to scale back the number of categories in order to focus on providing a community experience centered on the Law of One and Confederation philosophy. Ensuring the community can communicate without fear of judgment remains a priority. The Bring4th guidelines refer to the community as being a safe space for fellow seekers, and we are committed to refining and improving upon that ideal. With this fresh new chapter, we fully intend for Bring4th to continue providing a safe community space where seekers can learn and grow. <br />
<br />
While the management, structure, and focus will be different on the new platform, we do intend to continue growing and supporting Bring4th in the egalitarian spirit in which it was launched in 2008.<br />
<br />
We will provide more information in the next few days as we near the re-launch.<br />
<br />
Steve and Patrick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Dear fellow seekers: the recent decision to convert Bring4th into an archive was made for a number of reasons, of which includes the forums evolving in a way that became unsustainable for L/L Research and its volunteer webmaster.<br />
<br />
After the announcement was made to archive Bring4th, a range of mixed emotions were expressed within the community. In reading through the responses, I felt compelled on my own initiative to approach L/L and offer to continue supporting the community, but in a scaled back fashion. As it so happens, both Steve (Bring4th_Steve) and I had contacted L/L with very similar proposals. So we got together to discuss our endeavor and both agreed over the importance of continuing to support the categories that are the most helpful and informative for seekers, along with newcomers to the Law of One material and Confederation philosophy.<br />
<br />
Steve and I are currently setting up a new board through Bring4th. While it will still be an L/L Research service, Bring4th will be run relatively autonomously by us as administrators, with periodic check-ins with L/L management.<br />
<br />
One of the exciting improvements for the new discussion board is fixing the known problems of the old forums by adopting a brand new collaboration service. The chosen platform will hopefully provide the community with a modernized style and new features that will improve the quality and ease of group discussions. <br />
<br />
As mentioned above, we are planning to scale back the number of categories in order to focus on providing a community experience centered on the Law of One and Confederation philosophy. Ensuring the community can communicate without fear of judgment remains a priority. The Bring4th guidelines refer to the community as being a safe space for fellow seekers, and we are committed to refining and improving upon that ideal. With this fresh new chapter, we fully intend for Bring4th to continue providing a safe community space where seekers can learn and grow. <br />
<br />
While the management, structure, and focus will be different on the new platform, we do intend to continue growing and supporting Bring4th in the egalitarian spirit in which it was launched in 2008.<br />
<br />
We will provide more information in the next few days as we near the re-launch.<br />
<br />
Steve and Patrick]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bye y’all]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20145</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12067">sillypumpkins</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[It didn’t click for me when I read the announcement a few weeks ago that this special place was actually going away.<br />
<br />
Well.... it hit me.<br />
<br />
What a special, special place B4 is. I am so grateful to have been a part of this community and to have met/gotten to know all of you, even in the midst of heavy catalyst. <br />
<br />
I often feel lonely in the real world, like an alien. So B4 was always a safe haven for me to go and interact with other aliens. I have never felt so connected within a community, physical, online or otherwise. That means a lot to me and I will carry it with me wherever I go. <br />
<br />
Oh ya..... that sweet, sweet sting of goodbye. :’) <br />
<br />
PM your emails if you’d like/here’s mine!<br />
<br />
haroldafowler@yahoo.com<br />
<br />
Love you all<br />
<br />
Harold]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It didn’t click for me when I read the announcement a few weeks ago that this special place was actually going away.<br />
<br />
Well.... it hit me.<br />
<br />
What a special, special place B4 is. I am so grateful to have been a part of this community and to have met/gotten to know all of you, even in the midst of heavy catalyst. <br />
<br />
I often feel lonely in the real world, like an alien. So B4 was always a safe haven for me to go and interact with other aliens. I have never felt so connected within a community, physical, online or otherwise. That means a lot to me and I will carry it with me wherever I go. <br />
<br />
Oh ya..... that sweet, sweet sting of goodbye. :’) <br />
<br />
PM your emails if you’d like/here’s mine!<br />
<br />
haroldafowler@yahoo.com<br />
<br />
Love you all<br />
<br />
Harold]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Merging with God]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20144</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=1118">AnthroHeart</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Is going into the next Octave Density the same as merging with God/Creator?<br />
<br />
Ra says it is timelessness of an unimaginable nature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Is going into the next Octave Density the same as merging with God/Creator?<br />
<br />
Ra says it is timelessness of an unimaginable nature.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ra Theme Park!!!]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20143</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 18:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey there, my fellow Forumistas!<br />
<br />
Let us not despair over the loss of our shared space here, but let us raise our sights much higher and work together to create something far more magnificent!<br />
<br />
My friends, there has been some hand wringing of late regarding the potential prostituting of the Law of One, and yet, Ra encourages us to look at each thing and its opposite.  I say, looking at the opposite offers us an opportunity create a masterpiece of devotion to Ra &amp; company, thus allowing us to bring it all full circle, concretising the Law of One .  (Or, if bringing it full circle, then maybe it would be the Law of Zero?  Even better!)<br />
<br />
The obvious conclusion, therefore, is that we must build a Ra Theme Park!  (We could maybe put it in Kentucky near where the new Noah's Ark is now suing it's insurance company for damages due to excessive rain.  Yep, true story.)  After all, B4th has been a theme park of sorts, has it not?  So, why not now take it to the next logical stage?<br />
<br />
We'll have over-sized walking puppets depicting The Questioner, The Instrument and The Scribe which will greet people and pose for photos.  Gosh, we would need a landing pad and have replicas of alien space craft.  Of course, we'd have a pyramid and re-enact the initiation process.  Also, we could have galactic battles re-enacted between 4d+ and 4D- forces.<br />
<br />
There would have to be a wax museum showing the scene of the Ra channeling with all the symbolic imagery and all kinds of other stuff (maybe Rasputin, Genghis Khan and Taras Bulba?)........................  Just IMAGINE the possibilities.<br />
<br />
So, please add your own inspirations below.  We will need them all.<br />
<br />
Thanks so much, and I'm starting this off with an idea for transportation around the Theme Park.  Below is a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Red Green</span> video of how to make a hybrid saucer-like craft for <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">very cheap</span></span>!  Thanks again!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">May we all enjoy our ride through the universe..........</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/HxYe26CIvuY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey there, my fellow Forumistas!<br />
<br />
Let us not despair over the loss of our shared space here, but let us raise our sights much higher and work together to create something far more magnificent!<br />
<br />
My friends, there has been some hand wringing of late regarding the potential prostituting of the Law of One, and yet, Ra encourages us to look at each thing and its opposite.  I say, looking at the opposite offers us an opportunity create a masterpiece of devotion to Ra &amp; company, thus allowing us to bring it all full circle, concretising the Law of One .  (Or, if bringing it full circle, then maybe it would be the Law of Zero?  Even better!)<br />
<br />
The obvious conclusion, therefore, is that we must build a Ra Theme Park!  (We could maybe put it in Kentucky near where the new Noah's Ark is now suing it's insurance company for damages due to excessive rain.  Yep, true story.)  After all, B4th has been a theme park of sorts, has it not?  So, why not now take it to the next logical stage?<br />
<br />
We'll have over-sized walking puppets depicting The Questioner, The Instrument and The Scribe which will greet people and pose for photos.  Gosh, we would need a landing pad and have replicas of alien space craft.  Of course, we'd have a pyramid and re-enact the initiation process.  Also, we could have galactic battles re-enacted between 4d+ and 4D- forces.<br />
<br />
There would have to be a wax museum showing the scene of the Ra channeling with all the symbolic imagery and all kinds of other stuff (maybe Rasputin, Genghis Khan and Taras Bulba?)........................  Just IMAGINE the possibilities.<br />
<br />
So, please add your own inspirations below.  We will need them all.<br />
<br />
Thanks so much, and I'm starting this off with an idea for transportation around the Theme Park.  Below is a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Red Green</span> video of how to make a hybrid saucer-like craft for <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">very cheap</span></span>!  Thanks again!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">May we all enjoy our ride through the universe..........</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/HxYe26CIvuY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[In gratitude for this community]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20142</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=2648">Diana</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Before joining this community, I really had no idea what a forum was. When I contacted L/L via email after reading the Ra Material—a book (an original) I inherited from a neighbor who died, it was likely Gary who answered my email and invited me to Bring4th. It must have been meant to be as I usually avoid media of any kind, but I was drawn to stay here and participate and immediately found conversations and people I found compellingly interesting.<br />
<br />
What stands out about B4, for me, is the membership. I have enjoyed every single member here and their unique ideas and personalities—even the ones who were banned or STS-oriented or recalcitrant—I love you all and I am grateful for all the pourings of your hearts and minds which richly added to my own understanding of life here on PLanet Earth. I am also grateful for the lurkers and readers who for whatever reason, did not post—I could always sense you and felt you were as much a part of this community as the "posters." I will miss every member I have come across in the last 11 years. It has been an honor to know you all.<br />
<br />
So thank you L/L, and specifically Carla, for having provided this platform of communication based on the channeled messages from those of Ra, a work I feel very close to. Thank you every single member who has passed through this digital space. And finally, it seem appropriate here to express my gratitude to those of Ra for reaching out to us—the brothers and sisters of sorrow.<br />
<br />
I wish you all the very, very best on your journeys forward.<br />
<br />
Much love to all,<br />
Diana]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Before joining this community, I really had no idea what a forum was. When I contacted L/L via email after reading the Ra Material—a book (an original) I inherited from a neighbor who died, it was likely Gary who answered my email and invited me to Bring4th. It must have been meant to be as I usually avoid media of any kind, but I was drawn to stay here and participate and immediately found conversations and people I found compellingly interesting.<br />
<br />
What stands out about B4, for me, is the membership. I have enjoyed every single member here and their unique ideas and personalities—even the ones who were banned or STS-oriented or recalcitrant—I love you all and I am grateful for all the pourings of your hearts and minds which richly added to my own understanding of life here on PLanet Earth. I am also grateful for the lurkers and readers who for whatever reason, did not post—I could always sense you and felt you were as much a part of this community as the "posters." I will miss every member I have come across in the last 11 years. It has been an honor to know you all.<br />
<br />
So thank you L/L, and specifically Carla, for having provided this platform of communication based on the channeled messages from those of Ra, a work I feel very close to. Thank you every single member who has passed through this digital space. And finally, it seem appropriate here to express my gratitude to those of Ra for reaching out to us—the brothers and sisters of sorrow.<br />
<br />
I wish you all the very, very best on your journeys forward.<br />
<br />
Much love to all,<br />
Diana]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Message to Jim and thank you to all.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20141</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=13438">Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I write this with the hope that someone will show this to Jim. Jim, I just wanted to thank you so much for being Jim. A lot of my guitar hero’s names are Jim so it’s only fitting that one of my spiritual hero’s be named Jim too haha. I wanted to thank you so much for your audio book work. You are a great speaker and, have through that medium along with everyone else at LandL and in the confederation, helped me tremendously. I am a menial labor in various metal industries and my life is filled with so many people asking me for help as well as being probably more ambitious than I should be that I often pack my day full of other things. I seem to never have the time to read. With the work that you did in the audio books, I’ve had some of the greatest realizations in my entire life! I’ve always felt a strange connection with you in the books as many of the specific experiences you describe I have gone through myself. When you asked about the orgasmic like sensation while sleeping despite no sign of anything physical occurring. I was so thankful that you had asked for the same had happened to me. Or when you were told you had a tendency toward negative wisdom, I had felt the same. There are more examples but I don’t want to go on and on haha. I used to try to meditate at 9 am with you and I would thank Don, Carla, and you as some of my hero’s and in regards to you I think Carla said “he’s a great guy” but I’m not certain on that. I had many experiences after hearing you read the Law of One. I believe I even saw Ra in a state between dreaming and awake but I’m not sure on that either. Hope this isn’t sounding too crazy! Then again, what does sound crazy after you begin walking on the path haha! It is my understanding that early on you and Carla were unsure to do an open community or some smaller scale? Let me say with all my heart that I am grateful you did exactly as you did. I am a bit of a recluse myself so i understand, it’s quite strange for me to write something like this actually. You are my hero buddy! I hope someday to get all the conscious channeling work into an audio format as this (<a href="https://thequochannelings.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://thequochannelings.wordpress.com/</a>) has been so helpful me me! I don’t really know how to end this but to offer my help to you and LanaL in anyway possible going forward. Keep on keeping on my friend! You are every bit of a value to me as Jim Page, or Jim Hendrix!! Adonai.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I write this with the hope that someone will show this to Jim. Jim, I just wanted to thank you so much for being Jim. A lot of my guitar hero’s names are Jim so it’s only fitting that one of my spiritual hero’s be named Jim too haha. I wanted to thank you so much for your audio book work. You are a great speaker and, have through that medium along with everyone else at LandL and in the confederation, helped me tremendously. I am a menial labor in various metal industries and my life is filled with so many people asking me for help as well as being probably more ambitious than I should be that I often pack my day full of other things. I seem to never have the time to read. With the work that you did in the audio books, I’ve had some of the greatest realizations in my entire life! I’ve always felt a strange connection with you in the books as many of the specific experiences you describe I have gone through myself. When you asked about the orgasmic like sensation while sleeping despite no sign of anything physical occurring. I was so thankful that you had asked for the same had happened to me. Or when you were told you had a tendency toward negative wisdom, I had felt the same. There are more examples but I don’t want to go on and on haha. I used to try to meditate at 9 am with you and I would thank Don, Carla, and you as some of my hero’s and in regards to you I think Carla said “he’s a great guy” but I’m not certain on that. I had many experiences after hearing you read the Law of One. I believe I even saw Ra in a state between dreaming and awake but I’m not sure on that either. Hope this isn’t sounding too crazy! Then again, what does sound crazy after you begin walking on the path haha! It is my understanding that early on you and Carla were unsure to do an open community or some smaller scale? Let me say with all my heart that I am grateful you did exactly as you did. I am a bit of a recluse myself so i understand, it’s quite strange for me to write something like this actually. You are my hero buddy! I hope someday to get all the conscious channeling work into an audio format as this (<a href="https://thequochannelings.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://thequochannelings.wordpress.com/</a>) has been so helpful me me! I don’t really know how to end this but to offer my help to you and LanaL in anyway possible going forward. Keep on keeping on my friend! You are every bit of a value to me as Jim Page, or Jim Hendrix!! Adonai.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Goodbye]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20140</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 21:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=1118">AnthroHeart</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I wanted to say goodbye to everyone, as this forum is going away.<br />
If anyone wants to continue talking with me, feel free to PM me, and we can exchange emails.<br />
<br />
It's a reminder to exchange emails with people before this site loses the ability to write.<br />
<br />
- AnthroHeart<br />
formerly Great Central Sun<br />
formerly IndigoGeminiWolf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I wanted to say goodbye to everyone, as this forum is going away.<br />
If anyone wants to continue talking with me, feel free to PM me, and we can exchange emails.<br />
<br />
It's a reminder to exchange emails with people before this site loses the ability to write.<br />
<br />
- AnthroHeart<br />
formerly Great Central Sun<br />
formerly IndigoGeminiWolf]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Copyright for the L/L-Research material in the future]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20138</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2022 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12838">tadeus</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Up to now it was no problem to post any bigger quotes from the L/L-Research material here, because this forum is from L/L-Research and so everything is within it's originate place.<br />
<br />
After closing of this forum any new discussion about the material of L/L-Research has to take place on other sites.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">There is a statement needed from L/L-Research if it is allowed / in the interest of L/L-Research to use the material on other sites?</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">In which form material and quotes can be used on other places?</span><br />
<br />
<br />
The standard is that public material can be used, when the text is not altered and a link to the original text is added.<br />
(A link should be self-evident to ensure the authenticity of the quote.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Up to now it was no problem to post any bigger quotes from the L/L-Research material here, because this forum is from L/L-Research and so everything is within it's originate place.<br />
<br />
After closing of this forum any new discussion about the material of L/L-Research has to take place on other sites.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">There is a statement needed from L/L-Research if it is allowed / in the interest of L/L-Research to use the material on other sites?</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">In which form material and quotes can be used on other places?</span><br />
<br />
<br />
The standard is that public material can be used, when the text is not altered and a link to the original text is added.<br />
(A link should be self-evident to ensure the authenticity of the quote.)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Session 10.7-8 the stakes to be considered.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20135</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=277">Phoenix</a>]]></dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20135</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[This one is quite scary:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> When Maldek was destroyed, did all people of Maldek have the problem or were some advanced enough to transfer to other planets?<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. In the occurrence of planetary dissolution none escaped, for this is an action which redounds to the social complex of the planetary complex itself. None escaped the knot or tangle.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> Is there any danger of this happening to Earth at this time?<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. We feel this evaluation of your planetary mind/body/spirit complex’s so-called future may be less than harmless. We say only the conditions of mind exist for such development of technology and such deployment. It is the distortion of our vision/understanding that the mind and spirit complexes of those of your people need orientation rather than the “toys” needing dismantlement, for are not all things that exist part of the Creator? Therefore, freely to choose is your honor/duty.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
What strikes me here is that when things happen in our lives in a more mundane sense, and we think "Why didn't the spirits stop this?" That they have other pressing things that they have to consider. The contact/ confederation has been making sure our entire planet does not get destroyed and become an asteroid belt like Maldek.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This one is quite scary:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> When Maldek was destroyed, did all people of Maldek have the problem or were some advanced enough to transfer to other planets?<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. In the occurrence of planetary dissolution none escaped, for this is an action which redounds to the social complex of the planetary complex itself. None escaped the knot or tangle.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> Is there any danger of this happening to Earth at this time?<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. We feel this evaluation of your planetary mind/body/spirit complex’s so-called future may be less than harmless. We say only the conditions of mind exist for such development of technology and such deployment. It is the distortion of our vision/understanding that the mind and spirit complexes of those of your people need orientation rather than the “toys” needing dismantlement, for are not all things that exist part of the Creator? Therefore, freely to choose is your honor/duty.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
What strikes me here is that when things happen in our lives in a more mundane sense, and we think "Why didn't the spirits stop this?" That they have other pressing things that they have to consider. The contact/ confederation has been making sure our entire planet does not get destroyed and become an asteroid belt like Maldek.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Keep the Community together over on Reddit]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20134</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=13494">LeafieGreens</a>]]></dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20134</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey everyone,<br />
<br />
I am pretty bummed to see what is happening to bring4th. I feel like ever since the website was redone, the entire site has become clunky and less user friendly. I didn't like how it felt aesthetically and it made me less motivated to come around and read and post. I feel like that happened to a lot of people and the site traffic probably tanked.<br />
<br />
That being said, there is a great and active community over on Reddit of Law of One people. I have recognized more than a few bring4th members over there. I am there too, but I am under a different screen name. It's not that hard to figure out who I am, however. :p<br />
<br />
So come and join us once bring4th goes dark.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Law of One on Reddit</a><br />
<br />
Love and light to all who read this!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey everyone,<br />
<br />
I am pretty bummed to see what is happening to bring4th. I feel like ever since the website was redone, the entire site has become clunky and less user friendly. I didn't like how it felt aesthetically and it made me less motivated to come around and read and post. I feel like that happened to a lot of people and the site traffic probably tanked.<br />
<br />
That being said, there is a great and active community over on Reddit of Law of One people. I have recognized more than a few bring4th members over there. I am there too, but I am under a different screen name. It's not that hard to figure out who I am, however. :p<br />
<br />
So come and join us once bring4th goes dark.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Law of One on Reddit</a><br />
<br />
Love and light to all who read this!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Session 46.9 Polarity and anger.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20133</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 11:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=277">Phoenix</a>]]></dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20133</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey, looking a bit around negative polarity information from LOO. Most of it has an annoying quality of focusing on the other wordly sci fi space beings aspect of it. While I think a lot of relevant wisdom is simply how the polarity acts in the mundane world for the rest of us:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>When the abuse is finally called out, the abusers use gaslighting, DARVO, blame-shifting, guilt-tripping, pity ploys and other manipulation tactics. In doing so, they often get the target to become confused and deceived into carrying this burden that is not their own. The abusers continue to transfer their sins on to others through trickery, <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">and somehow this seems to buy them time.</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
They learned these tactics from <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">the demons who animate them</span>.<br />
<br />
<br />
Abusers can only postpone their inevitable demise by misplacing the blame on their targets, who accept the unearned guilt through confusion, fear and self-doubt.<br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="https://meredithmiller.substack.com/p/the-inevitable-demise-of-tyranny" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://meredithmiller.substack.com/p/th...of-tyranny</a></blockquote>
<br />
<br />
My emphasis. I think that while the LOO highlighted certain focuses on the negative polarity as 'transcient', in as how they relate to the more mundane aspect, i.e. people you might meet at work or in your family. It is important to recognise that there are things we need to be aware of in order to not be deceived! <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: Certainly.<br />
<br />
Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.<br />
<br />
Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.</span><br />
<br />
Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
Has anyone ever witnessed this? A soft spoken and passive person exploding into anger to shock people into being placed under their control?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey, looking a bit around negative polarity information from LOO. Most of it has an annoying quality of focusing on the other wordly sci fi space beings aspect of it. While I think a lot of relevant wisdom is simply how the polarity acts in the mundane world for the rest of us:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>When the abuse is finally called out, the abusers use gaslighting, DARVO, blame-shifting, guilt-tripping, pity ploys and other manipulation tactics. In doing so, they often get the target to become confused and deceived into carrying this burden that is not their own. The abusers continue to transfer their sins on to others through trickery, <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">and somehow this seems to buy them time.</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
They learned these tactics from <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">the demons who animate them</span>.<br />
<br />
<br />
Abusers can only postpone their inevitable demise by misplacing the blame on their targets, who accept the unearned guilt through confusion, fear and self-doubt.<br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="https://meredithmiller.substack.com/p/the-inevitable-demise-of-tyranny" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://meredithmiller.substack.com/p/th...of-tyranny</a></blockquote>
<br />
<br />
My emphasis. I think that while the LOO highlighted certain focuses on the negative polarity as 'transcient', in as how they relate to the more mundane aspect, i.e. people you might meet at work or in your family. It is important to recognise that there are things we need to be aware of in order to not be deceived! <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: Certainly.<br />
<br />
Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.<br />
<br />
Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.</span><br />
<br />
Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
Has anyone ever witnessed this? A soft spoken and passive person exploding into anger to shock people into being placed under their control?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Questions that comes from members of bring4th?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20132</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12761">J.W.</a>]]></dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20132</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[I am curious, and pondering about the channeled materials<br />
<br />
In the entire life-span of bring4th forum, has there been opportunities, or any attempts to allow members to contribute their own questions to the channeled materials? <br />
<br />
After reading the recent channeled post from Q'uo on the l/l's website, I wondered how come l/l staffs and other-selves on the forum doesn't have a post that allows questions from members to be used in the ongoing channeling circle?<br />
<br />
Is is an exclusive club? like for example, people in the circle are more spiritually "qualified" to ask their questions? or is it because they are long time friends with the organization?  <br />
<br />
Maybe I might have missed it? and IT IS on the forum somewhere? if so, could someone please help me find it?<br />
<br />
I thought it would be really wonderful to have a place for members to post their own questions for Q'uo, and then having a poll to vote on which question should be included in future sessions.<br />
<br />
To be 100% transparent with my thought, <br />
<br />
As the bring4th forum is "closing"<br />
<br />
I ponder on how much it has "aided" each and everyone of us. But how much of it was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">for us</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">by us?</span><br />
The E.T. constantly talks about "helping" us, and hoping to increase harvest, l/l talks about helping our spiritual development. <br />
<br />
If this is the case, then isn't it natural to think that "we," as the recipient of this generous aide from the confederation should be allow to also collectively bring our "queries" to these wise and humble messengers of the Law of One? <br />
<br />
Or is this is something only friends of Jim, and special people are allowed to do? <br />
<br />
Back then, Don would ask Ra questions for others, and I thought that was awesome, but they didn't have bring4th forum back then, they didn't have the technology we have today. <br />
<br />
Now we have this availability, but yet, our voices, or curiosity are confined within the limited perspectives and viewpoints of the few people within the channeling circle. <br />
<br />
I am curious how the community feel about this, and how Jim, l/l folks could be more inclusive for the community, for us, with their humble and altruistic work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am curious, and pondering about the channeled materials<br />
<br />
In the entire life-span of bring4th forum, has there been opportunities, or any attempts to allow members to contribute their own questions to the channeled materials? <br />
<br />
After reading the recent channeled post from Q'uo on the l/l's website, I wondered how come l/l staffs and other-selves on the forum doesn't have a post that allows questions from members to be used in the ongoing channeling circle?<br />
<br />
Is is an exclusive club? like for example, people in the circle are more spiritually "qualified" to ask their questions? or is it because they are long time friends with the organization?  <br />
<br />
Maybe I might have missed it? and IT IS on the forum somewhere? if so, could someone please help me find it?<br />
<br />
I thought it would be really wonderful to have a place for members to post their own questions for Q'uo, and then having a poll to vote on which question should be included in future sessions.<br />
<br />
To be 100% transparent with my thought, <br />
<br />
As the bring4th forum is "closing"<br />
<br />
I ponder on how much it has "aided" each and everyone of us. But how much of it was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">for us</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">by us?</span><br />
The E.T. constantly talks about "helping" us, and hoping to increase harvest, l/l talks about helping our spiritual development. <br />
<br />
If this is the case, then isn't it natural to think that "we," as the recipient of this generous aide from the confederation should be allow to also collectively bring our "queries" to these wise and humble messengers of the Law of One? <br />
<br />
Or is this is something only friends of Jim, and special people are allowed to do? <br />
<br />
Back then, Don would ask Ra questions for others, and I thought that was awesome, but they didn't have bring4th forum back then, they didn't have the technology we have today. <br />
<br />
Now we have this availability, but yet, our voices, or curiosity are confined within the limited perspectives and viewpoints of the few people within the channeling circle. <br />
<br />
I am curious how the community feel about this, and how Jim, l/l folks could be more inclusive for the community, for us, with their humble and altruistic work.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Session 60.10. The naivety of Ra.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20130</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=277">Phoenix</a>]]></dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20130</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?<br />
<br />
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.<br />
<br />
Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power.</span> We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.<br />
<br />
We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.<br />
<br />
We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.<br />
<br />
At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you.<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being</span> at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
Daily meditation to discourage that paragraph at the end there! <br />
<br />
<br />
And:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: Thank you. Then as an overall success, what can you tell me about the relative success of the pyramid in any way at all? I understand that it was— the pyramids for the purpose were basically unsuccessful in that they didn’t produce the rise in consciousness that you’d hoped for, but there must have been some success. Can you tell me of that?<br />
<br />
Ra: I am Ra. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">We ask you to remember that we are of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow</span>. When one has been rescued from that sorrow to a vision of the One Creator, then there is no concept of failure.<br />
<br />
Our difficulty lay in the honor/responsibility of correcting the distortions of the Law of One which occurred during our attempts to aid these entities. The distortions are seen as responsibilities rather than failures; the few who were inspired to seek, our only reason for the attempt.<br />
<br />
Thus, we would perhaps be in the position of paradox in that as one saw an illumination, we were what you call successful, and as others became more sorrowful and confused, we were failures. These are your terms. We persist in seeking to serve.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
I wonder then if the sixth density entities 'upon our plane' are also naive?<br />
<br />
<br />
It makes me wonder a little if the contact is partly responsible for a lot of the 'narcissism' teaching we see. Even though some of this behaviour is obviously orange ray entities I think sixth density entities due to "naivety" could be caught in a few different ways and become narcissistic. As an example, one of these might be that the sixth density entity being naive, and misperceiving those around it as like the home density, sees other people as more loving than they are then if they are in a high testosterone body might simply demand this of people that did not offer love through their own free will. Another way this could happen is the naivety in not seeing what people are like, and falling prey to manipulators, and not seeing that the association is deleterious, becoming an enabler and lying for the manipulator. Also, being in the way of the karma that is going to the manipulator.<br />
<br />
<br />
Thus one way some of them are learning this is to become teachers on these areas. <br />
<br />
<br />
What do you think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?<br />
<br />
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.<br />
<br />
Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power.</span> We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.<br />
<br />
We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.<br />
<br />
We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.<br />
<br />
At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you.<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being</span> at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
Daily meditation to discourage that paragraph at the end there! <br />
<br />
<br />
And:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Questioner: Thank you. Then as an overall success, what can you tell me about the relative success of the pyramid in any way at all? I understand that it was— the pyramids for the purpose were basically unsuccessful in that they didn’t produce the rise in consciousness that you’d hoped for, but there must have been some success. Can you tell me of that?<br />
<br />
Ra: I am Ra. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">We ask you to remember that we are of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow</span>. When one has been rescued from that sorrow to a vision of the One Creator, then there is no concept of failure.<br />
<br />
Our difficulty lay in the honor/responsibility of correcting the distortions of the Law of One which occurred during our attempts to aid these entities. The distortions are seen as responsibilities rather than failures; the few who were inspired to seek, our only reason for the attempt.<br />
<br />
Thus, we would perhaps be in the position of paradox in that as one saw an illumination, we were what you call successful, and as others became more sorrowful and confused, we were failures. These are your terms. We persist in seeking to serve.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
I wonder then if the sixth density entities 'upon our plane' are also naive?<br />
<br />
<br />
It makes me wonder a little if the contact is partly responsible for a lot of the 'narcissism' teaching we see. Even though some of this behaviour is obviously orange ray entities I think sixth density entities due to "naivety" could be caught in a few different ways and become narcissistic. As an example, one of these might be that the sixth density entity being naive, and misperceiving those around it as like the home density, sees other people as more loving than they are then if they are in a high testosterone body might simply demand this of people that did not offer love through their own free will. Another way this could happen is the naivety in not seeing what people are like, and falling prey to manipulators, and not seeing that the association is deleterious, becoming an enabler and lying for the manipulator. Also, being in the way of the karma that is going to the manipulator.<br />
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Thus one way some of them are learning this is to become teachers on these areas. <br />
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What do you think?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Reworked lyrics.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[So quite often when I am not in full creative mode I simply take another song and put the lyrics into that one. I do actually create my own music but it is usually extremely emotionally intense and I don't usually finish the songs. They start getting too complicated usually musically and I feel that I need to practice far more to hold space for the kind of music I want to make! I have a strong background in music and love scales. <br />
<br />
<br />
Music I feel is the big goal for me. There are like a hundred different angles on it. But one of the benefits it has for me and that suits my psychology is that for me, things are fairly easily broken up into STO and STS. If something can be reasonably dismissed as STO it is STS and that's just the way it is. When I sing or create though I express all the "beauty" in between those two positions. It often can make me accept things that I cannot accept when I am not playing the music, but these things stay accepted after the song is made.<br />
<br />
<br />
I feel it quite a priority to keep up with the music. <br />
<br />
<br />
This is a song I wrote about someone in my life, or not really a song I wrote because when you key it to another persons rhythm it is not something that you really made and can perform -&gt; (Without significant change and all traces of the original song gone, I will never perform this). But it's a little creative exercise I did in order to process feelings:<br />
<br />
<br />
To 'What's up' by 4 Non Blondes, the Chorus actually fits the song I made very well so I kept it:<br />
<br />
<br />
Verse 1:<br />
<br />
<br />
All this time, I'm just confused. And I really don't want to be rude, but I don't, know if you're evil.<br />
Things are dark and they've got real bad, and you're always right there in the crap, and I don't, don't know what that means.<br />
<br />
<br />
Prechorus:<br />
<br />
<br />
And I try and get up and get on with my life, and I pray for a clue or for a sign and I, just feel stranger.<br />
If I meet someone and find things to do, Do I roll on a street, far from you is there? A little danger.<br />
<br />
<br />
Chorus,<br />
<br />
<br />
Verse 2:<br />
<br />
<br />
And I tried, oh my god did I try, I tried all the time. Felt like I was cursed.<br />
And I prayed, oh my god did I pray. I prayed every single day. That's when it got worse.<br />
<br />
<br />
Prechorus, Chorus etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So quite often when I am not in full creative mode I simply take another song and put the lyrics into that one. I do actually create my own music but it is usually extremely emotionally intense and I don't usually finish the songs. They start getting too complicated usually musically and I feel that I need to practice far more to hold space for the kind of music I want to make! I have a strong background in music and love scales. <br />
<br />
<br />
Music I feel is the big goal for me. There are like a hundred different angles on it. But one of the benefits it has for me and that suits my psychology is that for me, things are fairly easily broken up into STO and STS. If something can be reasonably dismissed as STO it is STS and that's just the way it is. When I sing or create though I express all the "beauty" in between those two positions. It often can make me accept things that I cannot accept when I am not playing the music, but these things stay accepted after the song is made.<br />
<br />
<br />
I feel it quite a priority to keep up with the music. <br />
<br />
<br />
This is a song I wrote about someone in my life, or not really a song I wrote because when you key it to another persons rhythm it is not something that you really made and can perform -&gt; (Without significant change and all traces of the original song gone, I will never perform this). But it's a little creative exercise I did in order to process feelings:<br />
<br />
<br />
To 'What's up' by 4 Non Blondes, the Chorus actually fits the song I made very well so I kept it:<br />
<br />
<br />
Verse 1:<br />
<br />
<br />
All this time, I'm just confused. And I really don't want to be rude, but I don't, know if you're evil.<br />
Things are dark and they've got real bad, and you're always right there in the crap, and I don't, don't know what that means.<br />
<br />
<br />
Prechorus:<br />
<br />
<br />
And I try and get up and get on with my life, and I pray for a clue or for a sign and I, just feel stranger.<br />
If I meet someone and find things to do, Do I roll on a street, far from you is there? A little danger.<br />
<br />
<br />
Chorus,<br />
<br />
<br />
Verse 2:<br />
<br />
<br />
And I tried, oh my god did I try, I tried all the time. Felt like I was cursed.<br />
And I prayed, oh my god did I pray. I prayed every single day. That's when it got worse.<br />
<br />
<br />
Prechorus, Chorus etc.]]></content:encoded>
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