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			<title><![CDATA[Questions that comes from members of bring4th?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20132</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12761">J.W.</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am curious, and pondering about the channeled materials<br />
<br />
In the entire life-span of bring4th forum, has there been opportunities, or any attempts to allow members to contribute their own questions to the channeled materials? <br />
<br />
After reading the recent channeled post from Q'uo on the l/l's website, I wondered how come l/l staffs and other-selves on the forum doesn't have a post that allows questions from members to be used in the ongoing channeling circle?<br />
<br />
Is is an exclusive club? like for example, people in the circle are more spiritually "qualified" to ask their questions? or is it because they are long time friends with the organization?  <br />
<br />
Maybe I might have missed it? and IT IS on the forum somewhere? if so, could someone please help me find it?<br />
<br />
I thought it would be really wonderful to have a place for members to post their own questions for Q'uo, and then having a poll to vote on which question should be included in future sessions.<br />
<br />
To be 100% transparent with my thought, <br />
<br />
As the bring4th forum is "closing"<br />
<br />
I ponder on how much it has "aided" each and everyone of us. But how much of it was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">for us</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">by us?</span><br />
The E.T. constantly talks about "helping" us, and hoping to increase harvest, l/l talks about helping our spiritual development. <br />
<br />
If this is the case, then isn't it natural to think that "we," as the recipient of this generous aide from the confederation should be allow to also collectively bring our "queries" to these wise and humble messengers of the Law of One? <br />
<br />
Or is this is something only friends of Jim, and special people are allowed to do? <br />
<br />
Back then, Don would ask Ra questions for others, and I thought that was awesome, but they didn't have bring4th forum back then, they didn't have the technology we have today. <br />
<br />
Now we have this availability, but yet, our voices, or curiosity are confined within the limited perspectives and viewpoints of the few people within the channeling circle. <br />
<br />
I am curious how the community feel about this, and how Jim, l/l folks could be more inclusive for the community, for us, with their humble and altruistic work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am curious, and pondering about the channeled materials<br />
<br />
In the entire life-span of bring4th forum, has there been opportunities, or any attempts to allow members to contribute their own questions to the channeled materials? <br />
<br />
After reading the recent channeled post from Q'uo on the l/l's website, I wondered how come l/l staffs and other-selves on the forum doesn't have a post that allows questions from members to be used in the ongoing channeling circle?<br />
<br />
Is is an exclusive club? like for example, people in the circle are more spiritually "qualified" to ask their questions? or is it because they are long time friends with the organization?  <br />
<br />
Maybe I might have missed it? and IT IS on the forum somewhere? if so, could someone please help me find it?<br />
<br />
I thought it would be really wonderful to have a place for members to post their own questions for Q'uo, and then having a poll to vote on which question should be included in future sessions.<br />
<br />
To be 100% transparent with my thought, <br />
<br />
As the bring4th forum is "closing"<br />
<br />
I ponder on how much it has "aided" each and everyone of us. But how much of it was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">for us</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">by us?</span><br />
The E.T. constantly talks about "helping" us, and hoping to increase harvest, l/l talks about helping our spiritual development. <br />
<br />
If this is the case, then isn't it natural to think that "we," as the recipient of this generous aide from the confederation should be allow to also collectively bring our "queries" to these wise and humble messengers of the Law of One? <br />
<br />
Or is this is something only friends of Jim, and special people are allowed to do? <br />
<br />
Back then, Don would ask Ra questions for others, and I thought that was awesome, but they didn't have bring4th forum back then, they didn't have the technology we have today. <br />
<br />
Now we have this availability, but yet, our voices, or curiosity are confined within the limited perspectives and viewpoints of the few people within the channeling circle. <br />
<br />
I am curious how the community feel about this, and how Jim, l/l folks could be more inclusive for the community, for us, with their humble and altruistic work.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Where is the Love in the Moment?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20113</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2022 06:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Where is the Love in the Moment?<br />
 <br />
For years and years I read that phase and had no real idea what it meant.  So, you want to be constantly hunting for love in the moment?  Okay...I guess?  But that just wasn't how I have spent my time, nor has that been a way for me to advance spiritually, except maybe indirectly. sometimes  But now I get it and it is fantastic.<br />
<br />
I recently became aware of a spiritual teacher who led me in a few minutes to a place inside "beyond perception" which is pure intoxicated joy, in it's more intense form.  It may be relaxed and simply happy, or it may be fizzing with primal-eternal joy.<br />
<br />
So, now I understand the titular question to mean, where is that joy spot?  Just shift into that state (in less than a second) which feels like one's core being and, lo, there is the bubbling joy-love.<br />
<br />
If you find <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">that</span> love in the eternal moment, then equanimity of being reigns as the self is playfully pulled into a found sense of True Self, as into the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">most loving maelstrom</span>.  I find it purely astonishing, a perfect counterpart to the exhausting maelstrom of the outward-anchored experience of "reality."  It is truly--and very obviously--worthy of praise and thanksgiving.  <br />
<br />
<br />
Honestly, I would have never believed it if I had merely read about it in an internet posting like this.  Funny, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Where is the Love in the Moment?<br />
 <br />
For years and years I read that phase and had no real idea what it meant.  So, you want to be constantly hunting for love in the moment?  Okay...I guess?  But that just wasn't how I have spent my time, nor has that been a way for me to advance spiritually, except maybe indirectly. sometimes  But now I get it and it is fantastic.<br />
<br />
I recently became aware of a spiritual teacher who led me in a few minutes to a place inside "beyond perception" which is pure intoxicated joy, in it's more intense form.  It may be relaxed and simply happy, or it may be fizzing with primal-eternal joy.<br />
<br />
So, now I understand the titular question to mean, where is that joy spot?  Just shift into that state (in less than a second) which feels like one's core being and, lo, there is the bubbling joy-love.<br />
<br />
If you find <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">that</span> love in the eternal moment, then equanimity of being reigns as the self is playfully pulled into a found sense of True Self, as into the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">most loving maelstrom</span>.  I find it purely astonishing, a perfect counterpart to the exhausting maelstrom of the outward-anchored experience of "reality."  It is truly--and very obviously--worthy of praise and thanksgiving.  <br />
<br />
<br />
Honestly, I would have never believed it if I had merely read about it in an internet posting like this.  Funny, eh?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ra Initiation = Torture?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20055</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 13:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12582">SirJosephPaxton</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/65#22" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.lawofone.info/s/65#22</a><br />
<br />
I've read this one a few times and the image finally kind of struck me.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #00369b;" class="mycode_color">Questioner: Can you tell me what this chamber did to the entity to create this awareness in him?</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #00369b;" class="mycode_color">Ra: I am Ra. This chamber worked upon the mind and the body. The mind was affected by sensory deprivation and the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">archetypical reactions to being buried alive with no possibility of extricating the self</span>. The body was affected both by the mind configuration and by the electrical and piezoelectrical properties of the materials which were used in the construction of the resonating chamber.</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Now, if I'm reading that correctly, as part of the initiation process a person was (willingly?) placed into some kind of sarcophagus deep within the pyramid with the impression that they were not getting out again.  Literally buried alive ...to induce a fear and terror so intense it created a kind of death and after you'd given up all hope and accepted your fate, Ra jumps out from around the corner and is like, <br />
<br />
"Surprise!  You're enlightened now, bro!  We totally weren't going to kill you.  We just had to scare the living s*** out of you.  It's cool.  It's science.  You're welcome.  Enjoy being a super-human and try not to be a dick, okay?"<br />
<br />
I guess I have two questions and am hoping someone here perhaps has some insight:<br />
<br />
1. If the processes involved in initiation were known in full to the initiate - do you think there'd be many takers?  <br />
2. Did Ra coerce or somehow trick these people into going through this process?  As well-intentioned as they may have been?<br />
<br />
The Ra material was basically the trigger for my own personal awakening.  I love Ra ....but if I'm being perfectly honest there's also a very tiny and quiet part of me that feels something like anger toward that group.  I've had trouble reconciling it.  Maybe similar to one's feelings for a really tough teacher who pushes you to your limit to get the best out of you?  <br />
<br />
Or maybe because their fiddle-farting around created a group of power-hungry super-priests who worked counter to Ra's objectives and created a dynamic that we earthlings still feel the repercussions of today.   Or maybe it would have been that way anyway.  I dunno.  Just sharing my thoughts and hoping for some enlightenment from this wonderful and knowledgeable community.  Thanks.<br />
<br />
Sir Joe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/65#22" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.lawofone.info/s/65#22</a><br />
<br />
I've read this one a few times and the image finally kind of struck me.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #00369b;" class="mycode_color">Questioner: Can you tell me what this chamber did to the entity to create this awareness in him?</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #00369b;" class="mycode_color">Ra: I am Ra. This chamber worked upon the mind and the body. The mind was affected by sensory deprivation and the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">archetypical reactions to being buried alive with no possibility of extricating the self</span>. The body was affected both by the mind configuration and by the electrical and piezoelectrical properties of the materials which were used in the construction of the resonating chamber.</span></span><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Now, if I'm reading that correctly, as part of the initiation process a person was (willingly?) placed into some kind of sarcophagus deep within the pyramid with the impression that they were not getting out again.  Literally buried alive ...to induce a fear and terror so intense it created a kind of death and after you'd given up all hope and accepted your fate, Ra jumps out from around the corner and is like, <br />
<br />
"Surprise!  You're enlightened now, bro!  We totally weren't going to kill you.  We just had to scare the living s*** out of you.  It's cool.  It's science.  You're welcome.  Enjoy being a super-human and try not to be a dick, okay?"<br />
<br />
I guess I have two questions and am hoping someone here perhaps has some insight:<br />
<br />
1. If the processes involved in initiation were known in full to the initiate - do you think there'd be many takers?  <br />
2. Did Ra coerce or somehow trick these people into going through this process?  As well-intentioned as they may have been?<br />
<br />
The Ra material was basically the trigger for my own personal awakening.  I love Ra ....but if I'm being perfectly honest there's also a very tiny and quiet part of me that feels something like anger toward that group.  I've had trouble reconciling it.  Maybe similar to one's feelings for a really tough teacher who pushes you to your limit to get the best out of you?  <br />
<br />
Or maybe because their fiddle-farting around created a group of power-hungry super-priests who worked counter to Ra's objectives and created a dynamic that we earthlings still feel the repercussions of today.   Or maybe it would have been that way anyway.  I dunno.  Just sharing my thoughts and hoping for some enlightenment from this wonderful and knowledgeable community.  Thanks.<br />
<br />
Sir Joe]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Are We Really Here Now to Help?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20041</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 17:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[People who read this text are on a website containing material appealing to entities who might have some sympathy with Confederation ideology, that is, we might believe that humanity is in great need of help during this time and that we should be helping out.  Are we really doing much in that vein, I wonder?<br />
<br />
There is the argument, if one is indeed a wanderer--and who really knows if they are or not?--that simply exuding a passive vibration of higher realms provides some degree of service.  Okay.  I guess that could be something, but in the face of things, it feels to be a meager offering.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/0223" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/0223</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>My friends, there is sorrow on top of sorrow in your world. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">From our vantage point, we see what to you are billions of souls, innocent in their essential nature but lost, completely lost, within their roles, and tormented, therein unable, for the time, to recover the truth of who they are behind the mask, behind the role.</span> In time, this sorrow will transform into a great crying, as your people sooner or later collectively aim their desire and will upon healing, forgiveness, and processing that great pain and trauma that imprisoned a proud people.<br />
  <br />
  </blockquote>
<br />
Can we do more?  Should we?<br />
<br />
I feel we should do more, and I wish this website were more strongly devoted to doing so.  But, naturally, the website is only that which the users choose to make it.  So, that turns the question into, "Could the users of this website choose to focus a portion of our effort on directly offering what we can to assist "billions of lost souls...completely lost within their roles, tormented..." in the process of their healing and discovering their spirit identities which exist alongside their human identities?<br />
<br />
Past experience would suggest a negative answer, in that attempts have been made in the past to focus group energy more in similar ways, and these have failed; however, the possibility of an affirmative answer remains.  On the other hand, the time for that change could be now or could be in twenty years' time.  Who can say?<br />
<br />
Possibly the first step in that direction would be more discussion of personal efforts to discover "the truth behind the mask, behind the role."  Conversations on this website are more often about largely transient topics or about the multitudinous tribulations attendant with spiritual growth, but maybe more discussion of active personal work could emerge?  These often come up when new entities sign up, announce themselves, tell their stories and fade away, but maybe more sustained discussions about the deepening discovery of spiritual identity could emerge?<br />
<br />
Personally, at the rate at which people are now awakening, I expect it will take fewer than 20 years for either this website to evolve in such a manner or for others to take up the mantle of more active assistance to human spiritual developement in concert with Confederation resources.  And to be honest, I don't see the group of us here now suddenly veering off in that direction, but I would be very interested to read how others feel about this.  After all, is not the putative purpose of our being here to help as much as we can in the awakening and healing process?  Or am I missing something?<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[People who read this text are on a website containing material appealing to entities who might have some sympathy with Confederation ideology, that is, we might believe that humanity is in great need of help during this time and that we should be helping out.  Are we really doing much in that vein, I wonder?<br />
<br />
There is the argument, if one is indeed a wanderer--and who really knows if they are or not?--that simply exuding a passive vibration of higher realms provides some degree of service.  Okay.  I guess that could be something, but in the face of things, it feels to be a meager offering.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/0223" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/0223</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>My friends, there is sorrow on top of sorrow in your world. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">From our vantage point, we see what to you are billions of souls, innocent in their essential nature but lost, completely lost, within their roles, and tormented, therein unable, for the time, to recover the truth of who they are behind the mask, behind the role.</span> In time, this sorrow will transform into a great crying, as your people sooner or later collectively aim their desire and will upon healing, forgiveness, and processing that great pain and trauma that imprisoned a proud people.<br />
  <br />
  </blockquote>
<br />
Can we do more?  Should we?<br />
<br />
I feel we should do more, and I wish this website were more strongly devoted to doing so.  But, naturally, the website is only that which the users choose to make it.  So, that turns the question into, "Could the users of this website choose to focus a portion of our effort on directly offering what we can to assist "billions of lost souls...completely lost within their roles, tormented..." in the process of their healing and discovering their spirit identities which exist alongside their human identities?<br />
<br />
Past experience would suggest a negative answer, in that attempts have been made in the past to focus group energy more in similar ways, and these have failed; however, the possibility of an affirmative answer remains.  On the other hand, the time for that change could be now or could be in twenty years' time.  Who can say?<br />
<br />
Possibly the first step in that direction would be more discussion of personal efforts to discover "the truth behind the mask, behind the role."  Conversations on this website are more often about largely transient topics or about the multitudinous tribulations attendant with spiritual growth, but maybe more discussion of active personal work could emerge?  These often come up when new entities sign up, announce themselves, tell their stories and fade away, but maybe more sustained discussions about the deepening discovery of spiritual identity could emerge?<br />
<br />
Personally, at the rate at which people are now awakening, I expect it will take fewer than 20 years for either this website to evolve in such a manner or for others to take up the mantle of more active assistance to human spiritual developement in concert with Confederation resources.  And to be honest, I don't see the group of us here now suddenly veering off in that direction, but I would be very interested to read how others feel about this.  After all, is not the putative purpose of our being here to help as much as we can in the awakening and healing process?  Or am I missing something?<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Regarding the Inner Work]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=20034</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2022 05:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Some may perhaps find this useful.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1983/0903" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1983/0903</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Hatonn Wrote:</cite>The inner work, the work upon the self, is not selfish. For <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">it [is] only the whole self that can serve the Creator it sees in others</span>. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">What you see is a reflection of what you are</span>. If you have not found enough, then you will continually view outer shortages.<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> If within yourself you have discovered the wholeness of your being and the adequacy, indeed, the perfection of your consciousness, you will then find that same consciousness buried however deeply in the illusions about you. </span>You may think to yourself that you cannot possibly find a whole and complete being within yourself. It is certain that your culture does not encourage you to feel whole. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">However, through meditation and the discipline of analysis of your thoughts and your actions you can find the keys that open the door to wholeness.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This wholeness is another word for love</span>, for love is that which is not broken or battered or in any way imperfect. Love indeed is creative and multiplies that wherein it dwells. Sometimes you may feel as if your situation were that of a certain crowd spoken of in your holy work called the Bible, gathered upon many hills, many thousands of people, and you have a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish. And you feel completely inadequate to nourish that which is about you, those who need you. You feel that you do not have the food, the nourishment, the love that is necessary. But this is the point. Such is the power of love as it flows through you from the infinite source which has created all that there is that that which you have will be enough. You are enough and you have enough.<br />
And so our young man could grow old and die and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">never find enough unless the attention had been turned to the inner silence that beckons all who seek, an inner silence so filled with joy that those who have felt it recognize others by that one smile that says to the world, “Yes, I have felt it too, I have known infinite bounty, I have felt the sunshine of a universe scattered carelessly, abundantly and wastefully upon my upturned spirit. I have asked; I have received</span>.” Those who have received radiate that which they have received, and give it again a hundredfold.<br />
<br />
And so my friends, please do not think ill of your poverty, whether it be of power or of money or of the right words or of enough love or of the ability to deal with a situation correctly today. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">For a little while you have left eternity, and you are living in time. You brought infinity with you; you brought the infinite love that created you and is you with you.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">  </span><br />
 </blockquote><br />
<br />
It's pretty well impossible to discuss this sort of thing if you haven't tasted it.  One can talk around it, but how can you discuss the feeling of the One in all and the All in any one portion without the direct experience?  What's the use of just talking about it?  I don't know.  The best one can do, I suppose, is what the Confederation dudes are doing, viz., encouraging us to seek and seek and seek within until we come upon that wondrous experience of self as All.  And again, at that point, why talk about it?  (...or type about it?)<br />
<br />
So many questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Some may perhaps find this useful.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1983/0903" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1983/0903</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Hatonn Wrote:</cite>The inner work, the work upon the self, is not selfish. For <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">it [is] only the whole self that can serve the Creator it sees in others</span>. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">What you see is a reflection of what you are</span>. If you have not found enough, then you will continually view outer shortages.<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> If within yourself you have discovered the wholeness of your being and the adequacy, indeed, the perfection of your consciousness, you will then find that same consciousness buried however deeply in the illusions about you. </span>You may think to yourself that you cannot possibly find a whole and complete being within yourself. It is certain that your culture does not encourage you to feel whole. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">However, through meditation and the discipline of analysis of your thoughts and your actions you can find the keys that open the door to wholeness.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This wholeness is another word for love</span>, for love is that which is not broken or battered or in any way imperfect. Love indeed is creative and multiplies that wherein it dwells. Sometimes you may feel as if your situation were that of a certain crowd spoken of in your holy work called the Bible, gathered upon many hills, many thousands of people, and you have a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish. And you feel completely inadequate to nourish that which is about you, those who need you. You feel that you do not have the food, the nourishment, the love that is necessary. But this is the point. Such is the power of love as it flows through you from the infinite source which has created all that there is that that which you have will be enough. You are enough and you have enough.<br />
And so our young man could grow old and die and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">never find enough unless the attention had been turned to the inner silence that beckons all who seek, an inner silence so filled with joy that those who have felt it recognize others by that one smile that says to the world, “Yes, I have felt it too, I have known infinite bounty, I have felt the sunshine of a universe scattered carelessly, abundantly and wastefully upon my upturned spirit. I have asked; I have received</span>.” Those who have received radiate that which they have received, and give it again a hundredfold.<br />
<br />
And so my friends, please do not think ill of your poverty, whether it be of power or of money or of the right words or of enough love or of the ability to deal with a situation correctly today. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">For a little while you have left eternity, and you are living in time. You brought infinity with you; you brought the infinite love that created you and is you with you.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">  </span><br />
 </blockquote><br />
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It's pretty well impossible to discuss this sort of thing if you haven't tasted it.  One can talk around it, but how can you discuss the feeling of the One in all and the All in any one portion without the direct experience?  What's the use of just talking about it?  I don't know.  The best one can do, I suppose, is what the Confederation dudes are doing, viz., encouraging us to seek and seek and seek within until we come upon that wondrous experience of self as All.  And again, at that point, why talk about it?  (...or type about it?)<br />
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So many questions.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Is it a false message in  L/L Research Channeling Archives?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19940</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=14205">Dotila</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[According to the <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0106" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">January 6, 1974 channeling</a>, the solar system central axis should be parrallel to the central aixs of the Milky Way.<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #44475a;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Noto Color Emoji';" class="mycode_font">"Although your science is unable to discern the numerous planetary systems within the galaxy, if it could it would find them all to be oriented so that the planes of their rotations are parallel. And this plane of their rotation is parallel to the major plane of the galactic system, which includes its major diameters. Each planetary system rotates around its central axis. This axis is parallel to the central axis of the galactic system."          from   <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0106" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">January 6, 1974 channeling</a></span></span></span></span></blockquote>
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But in reality, it is not that way:<br />
<br />
<img src="https://miro.medium.com/max/2798/1*XMTz0MiSWZke-oPiKXCejA.jpeg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 1*XMTz0MiSWZke-oPiKXCejA.jpeg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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Is there something I misunderstood?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[According to the <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0106" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">January 6, 1974 channeling</a>, the solar system central axis should be parrallel to the central aixs of the Milky Way.<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #44475a;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: ui-sans-serif, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Noto Color Emoji';" class="mycode_font">"Although your science is unable to discern the numerous planetary systems within the galaxy, if it could it would find them all to be oriented so that the planes of their rotations are parallel. And this plane of their rotation is parallel to the major plane of the galactic system, which includes its major diameters. Each planetary system rotates around its central axis. This axis is parallel to the central axis of the galactic system."          from   <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0106" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">January 6, 1974 channeling</a></span></span></span></span></blockquote>
<br />
But in reality, it is not that way:<br />
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<img src="https://miro.medium.com/max/2798/1*XMTz0MiSWZke-oPiKXCejA.jpeg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 1*XMTz0MiSWZke-oPiKXCejA.jpeg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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Is there something I misunderstood?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19930</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 05:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is Don Elkins channeling Hatonn in 1974.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0209" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0209</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>We were, for quite some time, confused about the conditions that are manifested upon your surface, and the reason for the turmoil. It took us some time to understand the state of <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">total ignorance</span> that is in evidence among your peoples. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This is not a condition that is often found in this creation, for the Father has given to each of His children an understanding that is within them.  </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This understanding is within all of the peoples throughout all of space, and it is within the people of this planet. However, since they have not sought this understanding that is theirs, that is a part of them, they have continued in directions brought about by desires that have nothing to do with truth.</span> Desires created by intellectual games played in their waking state. They come in contact with truth only during their sleeping state.<br />
<br />
And if they did not come in contact with their innermost thoughts at this time, they would long since have ceased to exist, for<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> a being cannot long exist in a condition of total lack of the Creator’s truth. For this reason you find it necessary to sleep.</span> Sleep, my friends, is not a normal condition. It is something that the people of your planet do out of necessity.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately, this condition of sleep does not totally satisfy the requirements that are necessary if the truth of the creation is to be revealed in its totality. It is therefore necessary, if they are to return to this truth, to avail themselves to it in dally meditation.<br />
This, my friends, is why we cannot come directly to you, and land upon your surface and speak with you, for it would do no good. We must provide a spark, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a clue</span>, something for a start. A start of seeking, seeking that results in finding the truth that is within you.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
I thought this was worth sharing because is shows how supremely ignorant (clueless) our condition is upon our suffering little planet.  It hints at how important is the spiritual work which manages to be done under these trying conditions.  The part about sleep is interesting as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is Don Elkins channeling Hatonn in 1974.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0209" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0209</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>We were, for quite some time, confused about the conditions that are manifested upon your surface, and the reason for the turmoil. It took us some time to understand the state of <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">total ignorance</span> that is in evidence among your peoples. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This is not a condition that is often found in this creation, for the Father has given to each of His children an understanding that is within them.  </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This understanding is within all of the peoples throughout all of space, and it is within the people of this planet. However, since they have not sought this understanding that is theirs, that is a part of them, they have continued in directions brought about by desires that have nothing to do with truth.</span> Desires created by intellectual games played in their waking state. They come in contact with truth only during their sleeping state.<br />
<br />
And if they did not come in contact with their innermost thoughts at this time, they would long since have ceased to exist, for<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> a being cannot long exist in a condition of total lack of the Creator’s truth. For this reason you find it necessary to sleep.</span> Sleep, my friends, is not a normal condition. It is something that the people of your planet do out of necessity.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately, this condition of sleep does not totally satisfy the requirements that are necessary if the truth of the creation is to be revealed in its totality. It is therefore necessary, if they are to return to this truth, to avail themselves to it in dally meditation.<br />
This, my friends, is why we cannot come directly to you, and land upon your surface and speak with you, for it would do no good. We must provide a spark, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a clue</span>, something for a start. A start of seeking, seeking that results in finding the truth that is within you.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
I thought this was worth sharing because is shows how supremely ignorant (clueless) our condition is upon our suffering little planet.  It hints at how important is the spiritual work which manages to be done under these trying conditions.  The part about sleep is interesting as well.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Oneness of Place]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19916</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 23:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=851">Sacred Fool</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is the entire text of a session which I find to be quite intriguing.  May the next reader find it so as well.<br />
<br />
Oddly, this text is in the light lines transcripts, but not in the L/L library of transcripts, therefore I cannot provide an url for this session.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Sunday Meditation <br />
<br />
January 27, 1974<br />
<br />
(Unknown channeling) <br />
<br />
I am Hatonn. I greet you, my friends, in the love<br />
and the light of our infinite Creator. <br />
<br />
I and my brothers in space, as you call it, are here with you.<br />
Yes, we are here in space, and we are also here. This<br />
is a concept that is not too familiar with your<br />
peoples, that it is possible to be in more than one<br />
place at one time. However, we have told you that<br />
there is only one place. There is an ambiguity of<br />
concept when viewed from your limited state of<br />
awareness which you presently enjoy. However, it is<br />
possible to be, from your point of view, in two<br />
places or many places at one time. To us, they are all<br />
the same place. <br />
<br />
This concept is not entirely new to the people of<br />
your planet, although it is not understood but by a<br />
very few of them. It is necessary that an individual<br />
reach an understanding of the reality of the unity of<br />
the creation in order to understand the reality of this<br />
concept. <br />
<br />
There are many ways to state in an intellectual way<br />
this idea, but it is more revealing to experience it.<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This experience is available to all of the Creator’s<br />
children.</span> <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">It was how they were originally created.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Only through your own desires have you cut</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">yourself off from the ability to experience the reality</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">that is all about you. It is not necessary to be limited</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">as you are. It was not intended that you be so</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">limited. It is only your desire that you be so. It is a </span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">simple process to free yourself from the thinking that</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">limits the people of this planet to their present</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">locations. These locations are simply a consequence</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">of their thinking, since in actuality, all places are one</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">place. </span><br />
<br />
This does not seem possible to most of the people of<br />
your planet. However, this condition is the true<br />
condition. The dimensions of the creation that you<br />
experience in your present form and understanding<br />
seem to be of such a magnitude that it would be<br />
impossible for you to travel through any great<br />
distance. We do not have these limitations. The<br />
reason for our lack of these limitation is simply our<br />
understanding of the truth of the concept of total<br />
oneness. This oneness is the original Thought that<br />
was provided all of the children of the Creator.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Return to this Thought. Have no other thought but</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">this Thought: a Thought of total and complete love.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This will enable you to know all of the fruits of our</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">infinite Creator. </span><br />
<br />
I hope that I have been of help this evening. I am<br />
Hatonn. Adonai vasu borragus.  <br />
<br />
  <br />
  </blockquote>
]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is the entire text of a session which I find to be quite intriguing.  May the next reader find it so as well.<br />
<br />
Oddly, this text is in the light lines transcripts, but not in the L/L library of transcripts, therefore I cannot provide an url for this session.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Sunday Meditation <br />
<br />
January 27, 1974<br />
<br />
(Unknown channeling) <br />
<br />
I am Hatonn. I greet you, my friends, in the love<br />
and the light of our infinite Creator. <br />
<br />
I and my brothers in space, as you call it, are here with you.<br />
Yes, we are here in space, and we are also here. This<br />
is a concept that is not too familiar with your<br />
peoples, that it is possible to be in more than one<br />
place at one time. However, we have told you that<br />
there is only one place. There is an ambiguity of<br />
concept when viewed from your limited state of<br />
awareness which you presently enjoy. However, it is<br />
possible to be, from your point of view, in two<br />
places or many places at one time. To us, they are all<br />
the same place. <br />
<br />
This concept is not entirely new to the people of<br />
your planet, although it is not understood but by a<br />
very few of them. It is necessary that an individual<br />
reach an understanding of the reality of the unity of<br />
the creation in order to understand the reality of this<br />
concept. <br />
<br />
There are many ways to state in an intellectual way<br />
this idea, but it is more revealing to experience it.<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This experience is available to all of the Creator’s<br />
children.</span> <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">It was how they were originally created.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Only through your own desires have you cut</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">yourself off from the ability to experience the reality</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">that is all about you. It is not necessary to be limited</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">as you are. It was not intended that you be so</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">limited. It is only your desire that you be so. It is a </span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">simple process to free yourself from the thinking that</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">limits the people of this planet to their present</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">locations. These locations are simply a consequence</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">of their thinking, since in actuality, all places are one</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">place. </span><br />
<br />
This does not seem possible to most of the people of<br />
your planet. However, this condition is the true<br />
condition. The dimensions of the creation that you<br />
experience in your present form and understanding<br />
seem to be of such a magnitude that it would be<br />
impossible for you to travel through any great<br />
distance. We do not have these limitations. The<br />
reason for our lack of these limitation is simply our<br />
understanding of the truth of the concept of total<br />
oneness. This oneness is the original Thought that<br />
was provided all of the children of the Creator.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Return to this Thought. Have no other thought but</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">this Thought: a Thought of total and complete love.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This will enable you to know all of the fruits of our</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">infinite Creator. </span><br />
<br />
I hope that I have been of help this evening. I am<br />
Hatonn. Adonai vasu borragus.  <br />
<br />
  <br />
  </blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Rumi: Teacher Of L01?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19915</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12539">jafar</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the mineral state and became a plant,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the vegetal state and reached animality,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the animal state and became a man,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Then what should I fear? I have never become less from dying.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">At the next charge (forward) I will die to human nature,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">So that I may lift up (my) head and wings among the angels,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">And I must (also) jump from the river of (the state of) the angel,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Everything perishes except His Face,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Once again I will become sacrificed from (the state of) the angel,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I will become that which cannot come into the imagination,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Then I will become non-existent; non-existence says to me (in tones) like an organ.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Truly, to Him is our return.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">-- Jalalaldin Muhammad Rumi, Masnavi</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I stumbled upon the above passage as I read Masnavi.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">This strikingly reminding me of Ra's depiction of consciousness </span></span><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">soul evolutionary journey from 1st density (mineral), 2nd (plant / animal), 3rd (human), 4th-6th (angels?) and then reached the full octave (infinity / no boundary or identity limit through non-existence).</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Has Ra or Quo and friends mentioned Rumi? </span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Does he among the 'messenger of Law of One' ?</span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the mineral state and became a plant,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the vegetal state and reached animality,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I died to the animal state and became a man,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Then what should I fear? I have never become less from dying.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">At the next charge (forward) I will die to human nature,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">So that I may lift up (my) head and wings among the angels,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">And I must (also) jump from the river of (the state of) the angel,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Everything perishes except His Face,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Once again I will become sacrificed from (the state of) the angel,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I will become that which cannot come into the imagination,</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Then I will become non-existent; non-existence says to me (in tones) like an organ.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Truly, to Him is our return.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">-- Jalalaldin Muhammad Rumi, Masnavi</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">I stumbled upon the above passage as I read Masnavi.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">This strikingly reminding me of Ra's depiction of consciousness </span></span><span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">soul evolutionary journey from 1st density (mineral), 2nd (plant / animal), 3rd (human), 4th-6th (angels?) and then reached the full octave (infinity / no boundary or identity limit through non-existence).</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Has Ra or Quo and friends mentioned Rumi? </span></span><br />
<span style="color: #202122;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Does he among the 'messenger of Law of One' ?</span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[1974.11.15  maintaining your third-density existence after the vibration change]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19827</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>...<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">We suggest to you, my friends, that you spend no time concerning yourselves with the effort of maintaining your third-density existence after the vibration change to [fourth] density has been completed</span>.<br />
<br />
If, within your spirit, your graduation day has come, those things necessary for your emergence into fourth density will be done for you. All will be accomplished by helpers which you must be aware that you have.<br />
<br />
It is extremely possible that damage will occur to those things which you identify with yourself in the third density. If we may speak plainly, you will observe the valley of the shadow of death. These very words, my friends, we have spoken to you before and yet you cling to that physical body and those physical surroundings as though your spirit were attached quite permanently.<br />
<br />
May we suggest to you that you can find your spirit neither in your head, nor in your hands, nor in your chest, nor in your legs, nor in your feet, that nowhere can you find your spirit; nowhere can you operate to remove it, nor to aid it. Your spirit resides within a shell. The shell may be removed, but that is no matter. The spirit does not perish.<br />
<br />
Again to the cycle change. You will be undergoing a journey which is quite unlike journeys from third density to other planes within third density. We believe that those who graduate will thoroughly enjoy this journey.<br />
<br />
There will be a great deal to undertake. You may certainly aid those about you in the days to come, my friends, if you will but know in your heart that your spirit is not dependent upon the state of your body, and if you can realize that the valley of death is but a shadow.<br />
<br />
If you have confidence in those days, you will shine like a beacon, that you may carry many with you toward their graduation.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/1115" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/1115</a><br />
What do we make of this suggestion by Hatonn?<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">spend no time concerning yourselves with the effort of maintaining your third-density existence after the vibration change to fourth density has been completed</span><br />
Later transcripts indicate that the earth is now receiving fourth-density vibrations.  The fourth-density earth is complete at least in time/space.  It seems the vibrations have indeed changed.  So, what constitutes an effort at maintaining our third-density existence?  On the extreme end, as we might call it, could we or should we give up food, water, and medicines so that our physical body may die and we may pass on to larger life?  Or is this more of a contingent suggestion - that if or when we face disaster and strife (on the level of global upheaval), that we are then to surrender our lifestyle and, when the moment is right, our bodily life?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>...<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">We suggest to you, my friends, that you spend no time concerning yourselves with the effort of maintaining your third-density existence after the vibration change to [fourth] density has been completed</span>.<br />
<br />
If, within your spirit, your graduation day has come, those things necessary for your emergence into fourth density will be done for you. All will be accomplished by helpers which you must be aware that you have.<br />
<br />
It is extremely possible that damage will occur to those things which you identify with yourself in the third density. If we may speak plainly, you will observe the valley of the shadow of death. These very words, my friends, we have spoken to you before and yet you cling to that physical body and those physical surroundings as though your spirit were attached quite permanently.<br />
<br />
May we suggest to you that you can find your spirit neither in your head, nor in your hands, nor in your chest, nor in your legs, nor in your feet, that nowhere can you find your spirit; nowhere can you operate to remove it, nor to aid it. Your spirit resides within a shell. The shell may be removed, but that is no matter. The spirit does not perish.<br />
<br />
Again to the cycle change. You will be undergoing a journey which is quite unlike journeys from third density to other planes within third density. We believe that those who graduate will thoroughly enjoy this journey.<br />
<br />
There will be a great deal to undertake. You may certainly aid those about you in the days to come, my friends, if you will but know in your heart that your spirit is not dependent upon the state of your body, and if you can realize that the valley of death is but a shadow.<br />
<br />
If you have confidence in those days, you will shine like a beacon, that you may carry many with you toward their graduation.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/1115" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/1115</a><br />
What do we make of this suggestion by Hatonn?<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">spend no time concerning yourselves with the effort of maintaining your third-density existence after the vibration change to fourth density has been completed</span><br />
Later transcripts indicate that the earth is now receiving fourth-density vibrations.  The fourth-density earth is complete at least in time/space.  It seems the vibrations have indeed changed.  So, what constitutes an effort at maintaining our third-density existence?  On the extreme end, as we might call it, could we or should we give up food, water, and medicines so that our physical body may die and we may pass on to larger life?  Or is this more of a contingent suggestion - that if or when we face disaster and strife (on the level of global upheaval), that we are then to surrender our lifestyle and, when the moment is right, our bodily life?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Healing Spirit Through Prayer]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19654</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 22:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Each of the dozen years I've meandered around these forums some number of forlorn souls would appear expressing much agony which they attribute to their being an incarnate volunteer from a different planet whose adaptation to Earth is a difficult process.  These folks are usually offered sympathy and random suggestions, but how can one encapsulate such a broad matter and describe factors which might really lead to an alleviation of suffering?  The following dissection of the Q'uo session from May 29th, 1994 is my attempt to do this.  If, in fact, any should find this useful, not merely an interesting (or trying) read, but as a basis to do spiritual work which moves them forward upon their path, then perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing this in a comment below for others to learn from?<br />
<br />
The session's dialogue focused on the perspective of the healer, but I have edited this presentation to speak more to the one seeking healing.  To view the original, go here.<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1994/0529" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1994/0529</a> <br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am Q’uo. ...The spiritual unease of which you speak is often the result of precisely the situation which you have described, that of entities who have journeyed to this sphere for the purpose of aiding its birth, shall we say, into a new level of vibration. The blending of vibrations that are more harmonious with the vibrations of your planetary sphere as it suffers some difficulty in the birthing <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">often causes a jangling to the spiritual complex</span> which is likened to the feeling a traveler has in a distant land of not being a portion of that population. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The healing that is of the body and the mental and the emotional complexes is for many entities more a product of the utilization of this density’s vibrations for the working out of an incarnational pattern which had its roots in many lifetimes previous.</span><br />
<br />
Thus, the healing of such entities is that which often is accomplished by means which are <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">similar to that which is offered to the one seeking spiritual healing as well</span>, for all healing must have the foundation set in the etheric or form-making body which is that more closely aligned with the spiritual complex of any entity.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
This passage points out that physical, mental and emotional healing are usually related to lessons one has sought to learn in the course of incarnational experience, whereas spiritual healing is a different matter.  Even so, the route of healing is similar for all of these.  The following quote discusses spiritual health in more detail.  In fact, it gives a rather technical description of the suffering often described.<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Structurally speaking, there are two clear portions to working upon spiritual healing or health. The first energy which needs to be worked with by the entity and by a healer who wishes to assist is that portion of the self which could perhaps be seen as muddied or roiled in terms of energetic patterns. The torque of spiritual disease is such that the unhealthy entity that one could say knotted or twisted and then held in that pattern by the energies which wish to untangle that unhealth, but yet each attempt to untangle just (pulls) the knot tighter.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This darkness, shall we say, is a darkness which is in the midst of the light which is also perceived as darkness. Therefore, there is no vision within which can tell what of the shadow world of spirit is of health and which is that of disease.</span> Therefore, in the combing out of these tangles the dependency must be not upon precise visualization, but rather upon the willingness of that seeker to lay down all judgment of both disease and health, or of both the darkness which is knotted and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">that great darkness of spirit which is the rightful realm of the healthy and balanced spiritual seeker</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
This passage appears contradictory, saying that darkness is an hindrance, and saying that darkness is exactly where the seeker of Spirit belongs.  But there is only one reason this darkness feels inappropriate, and that is the influence of fear.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>What is this knotting that indicates that the shuttle of spirit is not in good working order? The simplest term is fear. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The spiritually ill entity has moved into an isolation, a place alone within which the entity is unforgiven and unnurtured</span>. This isolation is crushing and once entered is very difficult to see, much less to work with. So, the energies of the healer pour like a blessing over this wounded spirit, lessening the isolation. However it is an infringement on the free will of the spirit being healed to substitute one’s own faith for the faith of the patient, so the healer who wishes to be of benefit must work on itself, offering, too, itself those energies of forgiveness and wholeness. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">And in this offering to self, opening and sharing this purifies emotion of an at-one-ment with the patient</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
The first line emboldened above restates the basic problem: intense felt-isolation.  The second emboldened line points to the solution, as well as to the need for the "great darkness" in doing work in spirit.  Viz., the darkness is the womb within which the purification of the emotions sheds the transformational light (via the heart, not the emotional body), which is expressed in prayer and which creates that particular, individual way out through the murk.<br />
<br />
 <br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The one known as D has offered the information that although the spiritual illness can now be to some extent determined or found, yet there has not been a corresponding mode of healing with the exception of prayer. Again this is because the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">spirit, while acting as a shuttle for energies into the physical and mental and emotional bodies, is not in direct contact with energies within the instinctual body and mental frame of individuals upon planet Earth, but rather can be reached roundabout, or so it seems to those within third density.</span> The praying seems roundabout because <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">one is praying to forces or essences within the world of spirit. And then that energy which lies without the sphere of Earth is persuaded to enter into the tangle to breathe balance into it.</span> However, in actuality prayer is the most direct way of healing, for<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> true healing is the restoration of all energies to their rightful balance</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
This is the pivotal concept.  If spiritual suffering is caused by the inability for the physical, mental and emotional aspects of self to have direct communion with spirit, then the way to bridge this communion is through prayer.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Therefore, to learn to heal, one must learn to pray.</span>  But what is prayer?<br />
<br />
 <br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">P</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">rayer is a form of communication whose object is one with its subject. The prayer, in reaching to the infinite Creator, reaches within.</span> The self talking to the greater Self, this is the structure which seen from the outside may be said to constitute the house of prayer. The actuality is that that seemingly far away source of unity which love itself is, lies within, so the journey of prayer is a journey from self to the greater Self within, then circling back to form the unending circle between prayer and prayer, that is between the one who prays and the object of prayer.It is not that we are saying that people pray to themselves, rather we are saying that that to which people pray lies within, for as the illusions of manifestation are progressively cast aside, that which is uncovered is already holy ground, and that far away Creator of one who fears is in reality that imminent presence which is the internal truth of all, shut away from the heart’s awareness by that door which the seeker is always able to open but has not discovered the way to, or the key for it.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
So then, how does one enter the darkness, open the self and refine the emotions so as to approach the vibration of the Eternal Self?  This, I would say, is the basic question of each and every incarnation.  This is where we are all slowly moving towards convergence, but here's a further description of what it looks on a more personal level.<br />
<br />
<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The quality which the prayer most beneficially offers the one to be healed is the avenue through which to express the heart, and the heartfelt desire to be healed</span>, this, then, expressed in a manner which for this entity allows the most open and clear expression to be healed. For some it may be that prayers which exist in your literature are most helpful. For others it may be that the prayer of the moment is the one which is most helpful. Thus, it is not important whether or not the prayer is structured in such and such a fashion, rather<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> it is important that the prayer provide an avenue for the heart to be expressed</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
To conclude this collage of thought I would return to the basic idea that there are so many among us seeking healing from their discomfort, and that this path of healing can then become a path of spiritual maturation.  The choice is yours.  Your heart is ever there for you to embrace, even when it seems wholly obscured in the "great darkness."  Even in the pitch black darkness, transformational light can be sparked by sincere prayer between the heart of self and the heart of Self.<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>An entity seeking healing is seeking relief from a pattern of thought and belief which brings it disease of one nature or another. To face the situation that is internal to the entity is often difficult for the entity, for the pattern of thought and behavior that has resulted in the disease is one which has, until the point of healing, remained for the most part hidden and a mystery.<br />
<br />
As the desire to be healed grows within the entity and more especially as the entity seeks the healing, the entity actually in the metaphysical turns to face the problem, the structure of thinking, in full light. This is often painful or fearful for the entity seeking healing, for the experiences which have been a portion of the entity’s formation of the diseased patterns of thought are often traumatic and to face this once again in light is for many a fearsome proposition.<br />
<br />
The healer may aid the one seeking healing in the facing of the fear by reminding each who seeks healing that <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the healing is a natural process for a disease which is also a portion of a natural process of growth, that the entity is not alone, that many have gone before it and have been healed of that which ails it, that far many more walk with it unseen to aid the healing. In these ways and many others may the healer aid the one facing the fear and seeking the healing</span>.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Each of the dozen years I've meandered around these forums some number of forlorn souls would appear expressing much agony which they attribute to their being an incarnate volunteer from a different planet whose adaptation to Earth is a difficult process.  These folks are usually offered sympathy and random suggestions, but how can one encapsulate such a broad matter and describe factors which might really lead to an alleviation of suffering?  The following dissection of the Q'uo session from May 29th, 1994 is my attempt to do this.  If, in fact, any should find this useful, not merely an interesting (or trying) read, but as a basis to do spiritual work which moves them forward upon their path, then perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing this in a comment below for others to learn from?<br />
<br />
The session's dialogue focused on the perspective of the healer, but I have edited this presentation to speak more to the one seeking healing.  To view the original, go here.<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1994/0529" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1994/0529</a> <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am Q’uo. ...The spiritual unease of which you speak is often the result of precisely the situation which you have described, that of entities who have journeyed to this sphere for the purpose of aiding its birth, shall we say, into a new level of vibration. The blending of vibrations that are more harmonious with the vibrations of your planetary sphere as it suffers some difficulty in the birthing <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">often causes a jangling to the spiritual complex</span> which is likened to the feeling a traveler has in a distant land of not being a portion of that population. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The healing that is of the body and the mental and the emotional complexes is for many entities more a product of the utilization of this density’s vibrations for the working out of an incarnational pattern which had its roots in many lifetimes previous.</span><br />
<br />
Thus, the healing of such entities is that which often is accomplished by means which are <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">similar to that which is offered to the one seeking spiritual healing as well</span>, for all healing must have the foundation set in the etheric or form-making body which is that more closely aligned with the spiritual complex of any entity.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
This passage points out that physical, mental and emotional healing are usually related to lessons one has sought to learn in the course of incarnational experience, whereas spiritual healing is a different matter.  Even so, the route of healing is similar for all of these.  The following quote discusses spiritual health in more detail.  In fact, it gives a rather technical description of the suffering often described.<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Structurally speaking, there are two clear portions to working upon spiritual healing or health. The first energy which needs to be worked with by the entity and by a healer who wishes to assist is that portion of the self which could perhaps be seen as muddied or roiled in terms of energetic patterns. The torque of spiritual disease is such that the unhealthy entity that one could say knotted or twisted and then held in that pattern by the energies which wish to untangle that unhealth, but yet each attempt to untangle just (pulls) the knot tighter.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This darkness, shall we say, is a darkness which is in the midst of the light which is also perceived as darkness. Therefore, there is no vision within which can tell what of the shadow world of spirit is of health and which is that of disease.</span> Therefore, in the combing out of these tangles the dependency must be not upon precise visualization, but rather upon the willingness of that seeker to lay down all judgment of both disease and health, or of both the darkness which is knotted and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">that great darkness of spirit which is the rightful realm of the healthy and balanced spiritual seeker</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
This passage appears contradictory, saying that darkness is an hindrance, and saying that darkness is exactly where the seeker of Spirit belongs.  But there is only one reason this darkness feels inappropriate, and that is the influence of fear.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>What is this knotting that indicates that the shuttle of spirit is not in good working order? The simplest term is fear. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The spiritually ill entity has moved into an isolation, a place alone within which the entity is unforgiven and unnurtured</span>. This isolation is crushing and once entered is very difficult to see, much less to work with. So, the energies of the healer pour like a blessing over this wounded spirit, lessening the isolation. However it is an infringement on the free will of the spirit being healed to substitute one’s own faith for the faith of the patient, so the healer who wishes to be of benefit must work on itself, offering, too, itself those energies of forgiveness and wholeness. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">And in this offering to self, opening and sharing this purifies emotion of an at-one-ment with the patient</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
The first line emboldened above restates the basic problem: intense felt-isolation.  The second emboldened line points to the solution, as well as to the need for the "great darkness" in doing work in spirit.  Viz., the darkness is the womb within which the purification of the emotions sheds the transformational light (via the heart, not the emotional body), which is expressed in prayer and which creates that particular, individual way out through the murk.<br />
<br />
 <br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The one known as D has offered the information that although the spiritual illness can now be to some extent determined or found, yet there has not been a corresponding mode of healing with the exception of prayer. Again this is because the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">spirit, while acting as a shuttle for energies into the physical and mental and emotional bodies, is not in direct contact with energies within the instinctual body and mental frame of individuals upon planet Earth, but rather can be reached roundabout, or so it seems to those within third density.</span> The praying seems roundabout because <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">one is praying to forces or essences within the world of spirit. And then that energy which lies without the sphere of Earth is persuaded to enter into the tangle to breathe balance into it.</span> However, in actuality prayer is the most direct way of healing, for<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> true healing is the restoration of all energies to their rightful balance</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<br />
This is the pivotal concept.  If spiritual suffering is caused by the inability for the physical, mental and emotional aspects of self to have direct communion with spirit, then the way to bridge this communion is through prayer.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Therefore, to learn to heal, one must learn to pray.</span>  But what is prayer?<br />
<br />
 <br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">P</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">rayer is a form of communication whose object is one with its subject. The prayer, in reaching to the infinite Creator, reaches within.</span> The self talking to the greater Self, this is the structure which seen from the outside may be said to constitute the house of prayer. The actuality is that that seemingly far away source of unity which love itself is, lies within, so the journey of prayer is a journey from self to the greater Self within, then circling back to form the unending circle between prayer and prayer, that is between the one who prays and the object of prayer.It is not that we are saying that people pray to themselves, rather we are saying that that to which people pray lies within, for as the illusions of manifestation are progressively cast aside, that which is uncovered is already holy ground, and that far away Creator of one who fears is in reality that imminent presence which is the internal truth of all, shut away from the heart’s awareness by that door which the seeker is always able to open but has not discovered the way to, or the key for it.</blockquote>
<br />
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So then, how does one enter the darkness, open the self and refine the emotions so as to approach the vibration of the Eternal Self?  This, I would say, is the basic question of each and every incarnation.  This is where we are all slowly moving towards convergence, but here's a further description of what it looks on a more personal level.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The quality which the prayer most beneficially offers the one to be healed is the avenue through which to express the heart, and the heartfelt desire to be healed</span>, this, then, expressed in a manner which for this entity allows the most open and clear expression to be healed. For some it may be that prayers which exist in your literature are most helpful. For others it may be that the prayer of the moment is the one which is most helpful. Thus, it is not important whether or not the prayer is structured in such and such a fashion, rather<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> it is important that the prayer provide an avenue for the heart to be expressed</span>.</blockquote>
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To conclude this collage of thought I would return to the basic idea that there are so many among us seeking healing from their discomfort, and that this path of healing can then become a path of spiritual maturation.  The choice is yours.  Your heart is ever there for you to embrace, even when it seems wholly obscured in the "great darkness."  Even in the pitch black darkness, transformational light can be sparked by sincere prayer between the heart of self and the heart of Self.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>An entity seeking healing is seeking relief from a pattern of thought and belief which brings it disease of one nature or another. To face the situation that is internal to the entity is often difficult for the entity, for the pattern of thought and behavior that has resulted in the disease is one which has, until the point of healing, remained for the most part hidden and a mystery.<br />
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As the desire to be healed grows within the entity and more especially as the entity seeks the healing, the entity actually in the metaphysical turns to face the problem, the structure of thinking, in full light. This is often painful or fearful for the entity seeking healing, for the experiences which have been a portion of the entity’s formation of the diseased patterns of thought are often traumatic and to face this once again in light is for many a fearsome proposition.<br />
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The healer may aid the one seeking healing in the facing of the fear by reminding each who seeks healing that <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the healing is a natural process for a disease which is also a portion of a natural process of growth, that the entity is not alone, that many have gone before it and have been healed of that which ails it, that far many more walk with it unseen to aid the healing. In these ways and many others may the healer aid the one facing the fear and seeking the healing</span>.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Puzzle Pieces: The Source of All Distortion]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2021 07:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Ra Material</span> there is a passing reference to where all our limitations originate which is deliberately amplified in the following Q'uo lesson.<br />
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First, here's an excerpt of the Ra session and the reference to the source of distortions as it is wrapped up in a long discourse pertinent to the personality of the one known as The Scribe.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/99" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">99</a>.<a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/99#5" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">5</a> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> Finally, of the preliminary questions, one from Jim stating, “For the last three weeks I have often been at the edge of anger and frustration, have had a nearly constant dull pain at my indigo-ray center, and have felt quite drained of energy. Would Ra comment on the source of these experiences and any thoughts or actions that might alleviate it?”<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">As in all distortions, the source is the limit of the viewpoint.</span> </span></span>We may, without serious infringement, suggest three courses of behavior which shall operate upon the distortion expressed.<br />
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Firstly, it would be well for the scribe to engage, if not daily then as nearly so as possible, in a solitary strenuous activity which brings this entity to the true physical weariness. Further, although any activity may suffice, an activity chosen for its intended service to the harmony of the group would be quite efficacious.</blockquote>
And it goes on........<br />
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Second, here's Quo's amplification of this from March 27th, 1988.<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/0327" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/0327</a><br />
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The overall message is that each belief we make our own contains a framework for experience which we can use until it is used up.  At that point, we need to let it go and find a different restrictive belief structure to explore.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am Q’uo, and we thank you, my brother. Is there another query?<br />
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Yes, I have one please. I had an experience last August, late July or August, with energy, and I have what I think is an understanding of it, but I would like to see if I correctly understanding it. There may be others who have had similar experiences, so this may be a question of some general applicability.<br />
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I was having a session in which a friend of mine was using some hypnosis with me to do some past life clearing; I was in hypnosis, and he was the hypnotist at the time. After I had worked on clearing on the past life material, I began to experience an inrushing, from head to toe, of a tremendous amount of energies. There was a sensation like a cool wind from this energy, and with my eyes closed, I could see clairvoyantly, I could see it as a tremendous light, very brilliant light. It went on for about a half hour, and I had various experiences while it was going on. I even had some muscle spasm, not painful, but my hands were sort of paralyzed and twisting, there was such an inrush of energy. And I had the unusual experience of seeing something as if pieces of my finer bodies were breaking apart and flying away from me under the pressure of this energy. It was like black outlines of the shape of my body were flying in pieces away from me. And it was as if the light was so brilliant that they were dark against the light, the way a person who stands against a bright light, their face will be in shadow, there’ll be a silhouette. Is it possible to comment on what that experience was?<br />
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I am Q’uo, and we may speak in a general fashion, my sister. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><br />
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The source of all distortions is the limitation of the point of view, as has been stated by those known to this group as Ra.</span></span></span> Each belief which an entity contains and forms and by which it lives serves to offer certain opportunities for experience to that entity. When that belief or group of beliefs has been fully utilized, then there is the need to move beyond that belief and to enlarge the point of view, or the field of vision.<br />
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When this enlarging of the point of view meets some resistance, perhaps due to the comfortable nature of an old belief which has perhaps become likened unto a friend, the entity then may begin to experience a limitation within this area which may be expressed in any of a number of ways which will be perceived by the entity as a difficulty or perhaps even a mental or physical disease of one kind or another. This may in fact occur from incarnation to incarnation, so that those patterns previously experienced in a fruitful manner in an earlier portion of the incarnation or in another incarnation may then become sources for the agitation or irritation within the total being of the entity.<br />
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When such a limiting belief or knot or tangle of thought is released by whatever means, there is a release of the energy which was used to form and hold that belief in place in order that it might be of service. This energy then is free to be utilized in forming yet another field or scope or reach of possibility which will then further allow the entity to experience more of that which is its food for growth, the catalyst which becomes experience.</blockquote>
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I find this a very fruitful concept.  On the one hand, it honours the long term process of seeking that which is less distorted than what one's understanding currently embraces.  On the other hand, it guides those of us who have cycled through numerous levels of ideation and belief to let go of all of it, thus allowing the next cycle to begin afresh.  This allows the subsequent cycle of exploration to be fully commensurate with one's being, rather than experiencing conflict with that of which one has trouble releasing. <br />
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In other words, as one's capacity to embrace a larger point of view emerges, one's ability to accept this and release the prior limitations must also adjust proportionally.  As the above example suggests, this adjustment may be more delayed than one might expect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Ra Material</span> there is a passing reference to where all our limitations originate which is deliberately amplified in the following Q'uo lesson.<br />
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First, here's an excerpt of the Ra session and the reference to the source of distortions as it is wrapped up in a long discourse pertinent to the personality of the one known as The Scribe.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/99" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">99</a>.<a href="https://www.lawofone.info/s/99#5" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">5</a> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Questioner:</span> Finally, of the preliminary questions, one from Jim stating, “For the last three weeks I have often been at the edge of anger and frustration, have had a nearly constant dull pain at my indigo-ray center, and have felt quite drained of energy. Would Ra comment on the source of these experiences and any thoughts or actions that might alleviate it?”<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ra:</span> I am Ra. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">As in all distortions, the source is the limit of the viewpoint.</span> </span></span>We may, without serious infringement, suggest three courses of behavior which shall operate upon the distortion expressed.<br />
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Firstly, it would be well for the scribe to engage, if not daily then as nearly so as possible, in a solitary strenuous activity which brings this entity to the true physical weariness. Further, although any activity may suffice, an activity chosen for its intended service to the harmony of the group would be quite efficacious.</blockquote>
And it goes on........<br />
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Second, here's Quo's amplification of this from March 27th, 1988.<br />
<a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/0327" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/0327</a><br />
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The overall message is that each belief we make our own contains a framework for experience which we can use until it is used up.  At that point, we need to let it go and find a different restrictive belief structure to explore.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am Q’uo, and we thank you, my brother. Is there another query?<br />
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[new speaker] Questioner<br />
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Yes, I have one please. I had an experience last August, late July or August, with energy, and I have what I think is an understanding of it, but I would like to see if I correctly understanding it. There may be others who have had similar experiences, so this may be a question of some general applicability.<br />
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I was having a session in which a friend of mine was using some hypnosis with me to do some past life clearing; I was in hypnosis, and he was the hypnotist at the time. After I had worked on clearing on the past life material, I began to experience an inrushing, from head to toe, of a tremendous amount of energies. There was a sensation like a cool wind from this energy, and with my eyes closed, I could see clairvoyantly, I could see it as a tremendous light, very brilliant light. It went on for about a half hour, and I had various experiences while it was going on. I even had some muscle spasm, not painful, but my hands were sort of paralyzed and twisting, there was such an inrush of energy. And I had the unusual experience of seeing something as if pieces of my finer bodies were breaking apart and flying away from me under the pressure of this energy. It was like black outlines of the shape of my body were flying in pieces away from me. And it was as if the light was so brilliant that they were dark against the light, the way a person who stands against a bright light, their face will be in shadow, there’ll be a silhouette. Is it possible to comment on what that experience was?<br />
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I am Q’uo, and we may speak in a general fashion, my sister. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><br />
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The source of all distortions is the limitation of the point of view, as has been stated by those known to this group as Ra.</span></span></span> Each belief which an entity contains and forms and by which it lives serves to offer certain opportunities for experience to that entity. When that belief or group of beliefs has been fully utilized, then there is the need to move beyond that belief and to enlarge the point of view, or the field of vision.<br />
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When this enlarging of the point of view meets some resistance, perhaps due to the comfortable nature of an old belief which has perhaps become likened unto a friend, the entity then may begin to experience a limitation within this area which may be expressed in any of a number of ways which will be perceived by the entity as a difficulty or perhaps even a mental or physical disease of one kind or another. This may in fact occur from incarnation to incarnation, so that those patterns previously experienced in a fruitful manner in an earlier portion of the incarnation or in another incarnation may then become sources for the agitation or irritation within the total being of the entity.<br />
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When such a limiting belief or knot or tangle of thought is released by whatever means, there is a release of the energy which was used to form and hold that belief in place in order that it might be of service. This energy then is free to be utilized in forming yet another field or scope or reach of possibility which will then further allow the entity to experience more of that which is its food for growth, the catalyst which becomes experience.</blockquote>
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I find this a very fruitful concept.  On the one hand, it honours the long term process of seeking that which is less distorted than what one's understanding currently embraces.  On the other hand, it guides those of us who have cycled through numerous levels of ideation and belief to let go of all of it, thus allowing the next cycle to begin afresh.  This allows the subsequent cycle of exploration to be fully commensurate with one's being, rather than experiencing conflict with that of which one has trouble releasing. <br />
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In other words, as one's capacity to embrace a larger point of view emerges, one's ability to accept this and release the prior limitations must also adjust proportionally.  As the above example suggests, this adjustment may be more delayed than one might expect.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mind, Tuning, Being]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19638</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2021 02:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I find this passage to be quite extraordinary in the way it cuts through three different levels of dialogue and leads, hop by hop, to a crystal clear summary analogy of what life is, encompassing both its incarnate and the disincarnate portions, both its conscious and subconscious elements.<br />
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Hatonn commences (Carla channeling) with a warning about going too deeply into the unconscious of another, then turns to healing where this is done sacramentally.  A different person takes up the channeling, but cannot hold to the tuning (as Hatonn explains a couple of paragraphs thence).  The discipline of the tuning is then re-enacted for didactic purposes and a discussion of the critical mind and the intuitive mind ensues.  Then follows the summation.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Channeling Wrote:</cite>There is within some entities naturally given to the lifting of the veil greatly enhanced opportunity to go far deeper into the mind than is usual. For the most part we would guide warningly against taking advantage of these opportunities. It is possible to carry out this kind of research upon oneself, working deeper into the racial memory through working with the dreams and working with autohypnosis. In this way, the student of the hypnotherapy may gain information without disturbing the integrated personality of another being. Thus, we caution one who approaches a subject to guard against taking the opportunities with another entity. Unless this entity becomes a staunch co-worker and associate, such work is too risky for the subject to be considered an acceptable practice.<br />
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Gazing at the obverse side of a warning, we do find it so that when a student comes to a healer to ask for that which the healer does, the student has therefore done a great deal of preparatory work to engage in its own healing. Thus, the healer who is a hypnotherapist or a teacher or a channel is offered an opportunity to be of service, and this is cause for rejoicing for those whose wish is to serve the Father and to love each brother and sister with a spiritual embrace that magnifies the opportunity to gain in spiritual learning.<br />
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Now, there may be many questions upon your mind at this time, but before we work with questions, we would like to exercise the instrument known as D, and so would speak about related subjects. We would, as always, encourage the instrument and speak our thoughts as they come to him. We have had a very good contact now for several sessions, and are pleased with this instrument’s growing awareness of us. We thank the instrument for its tuning, and encourage it in its channeling to challenge before the channeling. This is sometimes disruptive, yet if the patience is kept the challenging may be done so that the words may begin.<br />
We transfer now to the one known as D. I am Hatonn.<br />
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I am Hatonn, and I greet you again through this instrument in love and light. We would speak briefly on the subject of this instrument’s challenging, which we find to be effective in its mode of initiating contact and exercising the required degree of control over that contact, but we would encourage further work and attention to clarifying the process in the instrument’s own mind, so as to make it more comfortable and less cause for confusion, anxiety or doubt.<br />
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We would continue our discussion on the subject of healing, especially <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> the mental phenomenon of trance or hypnosis.<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[Long pause.]</span><br />
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We do find a basis of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> and preconception in the mind which arouses the critical mind as we attempt to address this subject. For physical relaxation and the mental relaxation and flexibility...<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[Long pause.]</span><br />
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We are seeking to offer this instrument experience of inner process which may be instructive and give insight into the experience of hypnotic trance. An inner conflict, struggle which the mind is capable of creating within itself, can indeed give rise to fragmentation of the mind and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> up, so to speak, of the mind’s conflict when both of the conflicting inner voices are allowed to express themselves, if this conflict is not attended to and resolved in some measure.<br />
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We are attempting [to answer questions] the instrument itself posed. Our lesson is that the answers to these questions are available through the process of inner questioning. This gives rise, of course, to the question of why are so many sincere seekers apparently led astray when they listen to the voice within them, the answers that arise from their own deeper minds in response to questions posed to it. The answer, of course, is that truth is not absolute. The process of posing questions and going within to find answers leads to a course of action which brings the light of truth into the experience of the seeker and creates in his life the circumstances for the spiritual unfoldment of both that seeker and those who share in his experience, while another, posing the same question in his own sincere meditations may find a completely opposing answer being given, but one which creates in his life the same truth in the form of a course of action leading to lessons which contribute to the highest good [of] those involved in that action.<br />
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We will have some comments about the effects of the critical mind on the channeling process which shall be given through the instrument known as Carla. We will now transfer to that instrument. I am Hatonn.<br />
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I am Hatonn, and am again with this instrument, greeting you once again in love and in light. We ask this instrument’s permission and receive it to move back some few seconds in your time and verbalize the actual challenging procedure which this instrument used during the regaining of this contact. You will note the use of the critical mind, balanced by the use of intuition. This instrument first repeated several times, “Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace.” We shall proceed from there without expressing who said what to whom, as it should be obvious.<br />
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“Who comes in the name of Jesus the Christ, whom I serve with all my heart, all my mind, all my soul, all my strength?”<br />
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“I am Hatonn.”<br />
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“I challenge you in the name of Jesus the Christ.”<br />
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“I am of that principle.”<br />
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“Begone if you are not of Jesus the Christ. Begone. Begone. Begone.”<br />
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“Very good. We are of Jesus the Christ, for we are all Christ.”<br />
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“I ask in the name of Jesus the Christ.”<br />
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“Yes, my child. Jesus the Christ. We answer that challenge.”<br />
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“Are you ready for me to begin?”<br />
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“No, my child. Tune again.”<br />
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“Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace. Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace. Lord, may every word I speak be Your Truth and none other. Am I ready?”<br />
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“You are ready?”<br />
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“Very well.”<br />
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This is the process in a somewhat shortened form of the challenging which this instrument is attempting to teach. The form is shortened because it is not the first tuning and challenging of the session.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> Note that the critical mind is an all-important factor in the listening and evaluating both of the condition of the self as channel and the words which answer the challenge. The fact that these are heard mentally rather than audibly means, however, that the faculty of intuition be, in a balanced fashion, brought to bear upon the process.</span><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> Indeed, at one point within this session, the instrument through whom we speak at this time was able to detect the gradual moving of the state of mind of the one known as D into that neutral area which is untuned and therefore far more easily sullied with negatively-oriented channeling.</span><br />
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This instrument has been given an ability to believe its own visualizations, which is helpful. In other words, the use of the critical mind in attempting to detect places where light may be leaking from the circle is not advised. Intuition and visualization are to be advised. This is, of course, important in the context of the one known as D being responsible for its own cleansed atmosphere before any spiritual working and during the working itself. This instrument, through a series of visualizations, peeled away that which was perceived as a glowing scaly shell which was blocking positive thought. And when it, at last, peeled away, it was the top of the head which peeled away the last,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> thus symbolically indicating that the source of the detuning was indeed within the critical mind.<br />
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The rule is simple: one applies every discrimination and uses the critical mind with the utmost of care, for the critical mind, the conscious mind, the thoughtful self, is a tool, a wonderful, smoothly working, highly complex, efficient tool for accumulating data and making decisions. Like any other tool, it can become the master of the user of that tool. <br />
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</span>We do not suggest to any of an intellectual bent the speaking ill of the activity of the mind, for if the mind is critical and discriminatory, then this tool was meant to be, and meant to be used. But an entity is not a mind any more than an entity is a stomach, a foot, a hand or a heart. Instinctively, entities within your illusion recognize your physical body as a series of excellent tools, and by using hands and mind and senses and sensibilities, humankind has created a great many, many artifacts, thought a great many thoughts worth preserving and passing on, and accomplished far-sweeping histories of war and crime and sadness, as well as peace and honor and joy.<br />
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And when the scales have tipped toward the negative, you may be sure that there is a band of entities whose conscious minds have made harsh judgments, and who then require their will and their faith to stand in support of those ideologies, be they philosophical, religious or simply dominating. We urge balance upon each, for working with intuition only, without the use of the intellect, produces an entity lost in a sea of experience, sensation and wonder, an entity who is without the tools to express what is occurring, to refine an understanding of it, and to seek ways of manifesting that beauty which has been received in some service to those about it.</blockquote><br />
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This final part, for me, sums up the sacred beauty of our sojourn upon this struggling planet, as well as why we must develope and maintain our personal tuning if we would serve as fully as we might.  How else could we possibly hold such an awesome picture of our mind-cum-being for any length of time?<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Concluding Passage Wrote:</cite>Do not see the mind that is critical and the mind that intuits as two sides of a coin or two separate things. See rather, to use our favorite image, that portion of the tree which is above the ground, which blossoms and rocks in the breeze of summer, and stands naked and proud against the winter cold as the conscious mind, in intimate contact with the illusion, able to flower, blossom and expand, and able also to hunch the back, stiffen the self, and be protective against difficult influences. See the intuitive mind as a great underground system of the roots of this same living tree. In winter and in summer alike, they are in contact with the Creator, drinking in nourishment from earth and water, storing, nurturing and keeping watch over the life of that visible tree which nods above the ground. There are far more roots to the mind than there are visible trunks and branches, and the ends of the roots lies in the center of the Sun. Thus, the deeper mind has the opportunity to contact intelligent infinity itself, eternity and everness.<br />
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How precious is the entire being, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the entire consciousness that you call the mind and that is truly yourself</span>. May you see it in a loving and holistic way. May you glory in your branches, in your thoughts, in your ramifications, in your distinctions, and in your conclusions as you go onward from conclusion to conclusion. But may your faith be in the system of roots that links you to eternity, and may your will be more and more to place the tree above ground in the service of that greater consciousness which lies within the nurturing darkness of earth and water and, finally, fire.</blockquote><br />
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And so the work goes on...........<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I find this passage to be quite extraordinary in the way it cuts through three different levels of dialogue and leads, hop by hop, to a crystal clear summary analogy of what life is, encompassing both its incarnate and the disincarnate portions, both its conscious and subconscious elements.<br />
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Hatonn commences (Carla channeling) with a warning about going too deeply into the unconscious of another, then turns to healing where this is done sacramentally.  A different person takes up the channeling, but cannot hold to the tuning (as Hatonn explains a couple of paragraphs thence).  The discipline of the tuning is then re-enacted for didactic purposes and a discussion of the critical mind and the intuitive mind ensues.  Then follows the summation.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Channeling Wrote:</cite>There is within some entities naturally given to the lifting of the veil greatly enhanced opportunity to go far deeper into the mind than is usual. For the most part we would guide warningly against taking advantage of these opportunities. It is possible to carry out this kind of research upon oneself, working deeper into the racial memory through working with the dreams and working with autohypnosis. In this way, the student of the hypnotherapy may gain information without disturbing the integrated personality of another being. Thus, we caution one who approaches a subject to guard against taking the opportunities with another entity. Unless this entity becomes a staunch co-worker and associate, such work is too risky for the subject to be considered an acceptable practice.<br />
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Gazing at the obverse side of a warning, we do find it so that when a student comes to a healer to ask for that which the healer does, the student has therefore done a great deal of preparatory work to engage in its own healing. Thus, the healer who is a hypnotherapist or a teacher or a channel is offered an opportunity to be of service, and this is cause for rejoicing for those whose wish is to serve the Father and to love each brother and sister with a spiritual embrace that magnifies the opportunity to gain in spiritual learning.<br />
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Now, there may be many questions upon your mind at this time, but before we work with questions, we would like to exercise the instrument known as D, and so would speak about related subjects. We would, as always, encourage the instrument and speak our thoughts as they come to him. We have had a very good contact now for several sessions, and are pleased with this instrument’s growing awareness of us. We thank the instrument for its tuning, and encourage it in its channeling to challenge before the channeling. This is sometimes disruptive, yet if the patience is kept the challenging may be done so that the words may begin.<br />
We transfer now to the one known as D. I am Hatonn.<br />
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I am Hatonn, and I greet you again through this instrument in love and light. We would speak briefly on the subject of this instrument’s challenging, which we find to be effective in its mode of initiating contact and exercising the required degree of control over that contact, but we would encourage further work and attention to clarifying the process in the instrument’s own mind, so as to make it more comfortable and less cause for confusion, anxiety or doubt.<br />
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We would continue our discussion on the subject of healing, especially <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> the mental phenomenon of trance or hypnosis.<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[Long pause.]</span><br />
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We do find a basis of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> and preconception in the mind which arouses the critical mind as we attempt to address this subject. For physical relaxation and the mental relaxation and flexibility...<br />
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We are seeking to offer this instrument experience of inner process which may be instructive and give insight into the experience of hypnotic trance. An inner conflict, struggle which the mind is capable of creating within itself, can indeed give rise to fragmentation of the mind and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">[inaudible]</span> up, so to speak, of the mind’s conflict when both of the conflicting inner voices are allowed to express themselves, if this conflict is not attended to and resolved in some measure.<br />
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We are attempting [to answer questions] the instrument itself posed. Our lesson is that the answers to these questions are available through the process of inner questioning. This gives rise, of course, to the question of why are so many sincere seekers apparently led astray when they listen to the voice within them, the answers that arise from their own deeper minds in response to questions posed to it. The answer, of course, is that truth is not absolute. The process of posing questions and going within to find answers leads to a course of action which brings the light of truth into the experience of the seeker and creates in his life the circumstances for the spiritual unfoldment of both that seeker and those who share in his experience, while another, posing the same question in his own sincere meditations may find a completely opposing answer being given, but one which creates in his life the same truth in the form of a course of action leading to lessons which contribute to the highest good [of] those involved in that action.<br />
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We will have some comments about the effects of the critical mind on the channeling process which shall be given through the instrument known as Carla. We will now transfer to that instrument. I am Hatonn.<br />
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I am Hatonn, and am again with this instrument, greeting you once again in love and in light. We ask this instrument’s permission and receive it to move back some few seconds in your time and verbalize the actual challenging procedure which this instrument used during the regaining of this contact. You will note the use of the critical mind, balanced by the use of intuition. This instrument first repeated several times, “Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace.” We shall proceed from there without expressing who said what to whom, as it should be obvious.<br />
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“Who comes in the name of Jesus the Christ, whom I serve with all my heart, all my mind, all my soul, all my strength?”<br />
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“I am Hatonn.”<br />
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“I challenge you in the name of Jesus the Christ.”<br />
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“I am of that principle.”<br />
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“Begone if you are not of Jesus the Christ. Begone. Begone. Begone.”<br />
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“Very good. We are of Jesus the Christ, for we are all Christ.”<br />
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“I ask in the name of Jesus the Christ.”<br />
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“Yes, my child. Jesus the Christ. We answer that challenge.”<br />
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“Are you ready for me to begin?”<br />
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“No, my child. Tune again.”<br />
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“Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace. Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace. Lord, may every word I speak be Your Truth and none other. Am I ready?”<br />
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“You are ready?”<br />
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“Very well.”<br />
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This is the process in a somewhat shortened form of the challenging which this instrument is attempting to teach. The form is shortened because it is not the first tuning and challenging of the session.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> Note that the critical mind is an all-important factor in the listening and evaluating both of the condition of the self as channel and the words which answer the challenge. The fact that these are heard mentally rather than audibly means, however, that the faculty of intuition be, in a balanced fashion, brought to bear upon the process.</span><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> Indeed, at one point within this session, the instrument through whom we speak at this time was able to detect the gradual moving of the state of mind of the one known as D into that neutral area which is untuned and therefore far more easily sullied with negatively-oriented channeling.</span><br />
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This instrument has been given an ability to believe its own visualizations, which is helpful. In other words, the use of the critical mind in attempting to detect places where light may be leaking from the circle is not advised. Intuition and visualization are to be advised. This is, of course, important in the context of the one known as D being responsible for its own cleansed atmosphere before any spiritual working and during the working itself. This instrument, through a series of visualizations, peeled away that which was perceived as a glowing scaly shell which was blocking positive thought. And when it, at last, peeled away, it was the top of the head which peeled away the last,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"> thus symbolically indicating that the source of the detuning was indeed within the critical mind.<br />
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The rule is simple: one applies every discrimination and uses the critical mind with the utmost of care, for the critical mind, the conscious mind, the thoughtful self, is a tool, a wonderful, smoothly working, highly complex, efficient tool for accumulating data and making decisions. Like any other tool, it can become the master of the user of that tool. <br />
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</span>We do not suggest to any of an intellectual bent the speaking ill of the activity of the mind, for if the mind is critical and discriminatory, then this tool was meant to be, and meant to be used. But an entity is not a mind any more than an entity is a stomach, a foot, a hand or a heart. Instinctively, entities within your illusion recognize your physical body as a series of excellent tools, and by using hands and mind and senses and sensibilities, humankind has created a great many, many artifacts, thought a great many thoughts worth preserving and passing on, and accomplished far-sweeping histories of war and crime and sadness, as well as peace and honor and joy.<br />
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And when the scales have tipped toward the negative, you may be sure that there is a band of entities whose conscious minds have made harsh judgments, and who then require their will and their faith to stand in support of those ideologies, be they philosophical, religious or simply dominating. We urge balance upon each, for working with intuition only, without the use of the intellect, produces an entity lost in a sea of experience, sensation and wonder, an entity who is without the tools to express what is occurring, to refine an understanding of it, and to seek ways of manifesting that beauty which has been received in some service to those about it.</blockquote><br />
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This final part, for me, sums up the sacred beauty of our sojourn upon this struggling planet, as well as why we must develope and maintain our personal tuning if we would serve as fully as we might.  How else could we possibly hold such an awesome picture of our mind-cum-being for any length of time?<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Concluding Passage Wrote:</cite>Do not see the mind that is critical and the mind that intuits as two sides of a coin or two separate things. See rather, to use our favorite image, that portion of the tree which is above the ground, which blossoms and rocks in the breeze of summer, and stands naked and proud against the winter cold as the conscious mind, in intimate contact with the illusion, able to flower, blossom and expand, and able also to hunch the back, stiffen the self, and be protective against difficult influences. See the intuitive mind as a great underground system of the roots of this same living tree. In winter and in summer alike, they are in contact with the Creator, drinking in nourishment from earth and water, storing, nurturing and keeping watch over the life of that visible tree which nods above the ground. There are far more roots to the mind than there are visible trunks and branches, and the ends of the roots lies in the center of the Sun. Thus, the deeper mind has the opportunity to contact intelligent infinity itself, eternity and everness.<br />
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How precious is the entire being, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the entire consciousness that you call the mind and that is truly yourself</span>. May you see it in a loving and holistic way. May you glory in your branches, in your thoughts, in your ramifications, in your distinctions, and in your conclusions as you go onward from conclusion to conclusion. But may your faith be in the system of roots that links you to eternity, and may your will be more and more to place the tree above ground in the service of that greater consciousness which lies within the nurturing darkness of earth and water and, finally, fire.</blockquote><br />
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Below is a fairly succinct exposition of how we are all experiments in conscious awareness.  First is an except from the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues with Barbara Brodsky channeling the entity Aaron.  And I have followed that with an outline of his information in my own wording, hoping to make the channeled material more digestible.  It's not difficult to understand, per se, but the ideas are large and packed closely together.<br />
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Whereas the Aaron text describes the situation from the top down (from the spirit body to the self-awareness of the mental body to the emotional body), the Q'uo passage from a few years prior looks at consciousness from the other direction, that is, beginning with the simpler awareness of second density as it moves up into the "self-awareness" of third density.  This is to say, second density creatures, let's say, when they have a broken foot, they do not complain, "<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">My</span> foot is broken!"  It's more like, "There is a broken foot."  They lack the sense of self importance humans have because they do not feel the kind of self vs. others sense of identity we have.  For example, although they will try to evade a predator, when it comes time to die, they simply surrender to death.  They trust the process because they feel connected to the natural flow of life.  And yet they will eventually give up that very connectedness in order to enter third density and experience that sense of individual isolation which self-awareness brings.  From this position of third density separation they eventually reconnect with Oneness as they become individuated self-aware love-embracing entities as they become ready to do work in fourth density consciousness.<br />
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This particular passage also beautifully reminds us of our role in enspiriting second density creatures with our love, and how this aids them on their journey towards our current density of experience.  At the same time, sharing love with second density beings also helps us open our hearts on our way to life in fourth density.  Perhaps these two excepts will shed some light upon the underlying beauty of this mysterious process?<br />
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<a href="https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1993/1993_0321_draft.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue...draft.aspx</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Aaron Wrote:</cite>I have just offered Barbara a complex thought which was not channeled with complete clarity. I wish to explain this a bit. The spirit body is this spark of the Divine. It is perfect. It needs nothing beyond itself, and yet it is just a spark. It is capable of infinite expansion. The divine essence of it does not change, but its power changes so that you move from that small spark of God into a brilliant sun. This essence of divinity within each of you is not separate from God, nor is it in itself God, but is a part of that infinite energy, light and love.<br />
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If you had a vast ocean, an infinite sea, and you took a drop of water from a dropper and dropped it into that sea, no matter that it was already infinite, it would expand. You add that drop to it. Each of you is involved in this process of expanding and enhancing your own energy and light, which does not belong personally to you, but in eighth-density experience moves back fully into the Eternal and thereby expands the Infinite, expands the light and love in the universe.<br />
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So, the soul itself is not learning, but the soul within what we call the Higher Self is accompanied by the mental body. As soon as there is thought, there is distortion, because with thought there is self-awareness. As soon as you are aware of a self, you move into the distortion of self and other. This distortion is part of the illusion and is useful, even necessary for a certain distance on your path. But there is also the level of awareness that there is no separate self. Pure Awareness knows that this which has perceived itself as separate is truly of the essence of the Eternal.<br />
Here is where you move into and out of illusion. The Higher Self then moves into the incarnative experience, manifesting form and taking on the heaviness of the emotional body so that it can work with the earth catalysts and clarify this energy that you are.<br />
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The ideas of love, compassion—what do these mean? If there was never any pain, it would be easy to feel love. You would never feel threatened. You would never close or build that wall. But what would this love mean? When you are offered the heavy catalysts that you are offered on this plane and can still forgive, still find compassion, still love, can you see that you are expanding that original spark? The light grows purer.<br />
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In effect, this small spark within you is fed by the fuel of earth’s catalysts, and two responses are possible. One is that those catalysts feel so heavy that you shut the doors, thus enclosing that flame within and not allowing it to return itself to God. The second choice is that you watch the process of closing and opening, fear and love, and find compassion for the human who is experiencing this physical pain, this emotional pain. This growing compassion serves to add fuel to the spark so that it burns more and more brilliantly. The shadow falls away, and what is finally returned to God has become a sun in its own right.<br />
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So, you are in this illusion and yet being asked to relate to it openheartedly with balance, working with all the catalysts of the lower chakras, welcoming these catalysts, not preferring the upper-chakra energy, not preferring being angels to the experience of the earthsuit. This is your greatest challenge, because it is so painful to keep coming back to that earthsuit when the heart yearns to be free and back on that plane of light and love where there are no distortions of fear.<br />
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There must be constant awareness, a noticing of the beginnings of a dialogue with fear, a willingness not to get caught up in that fear and be reactive to it. Certainly there is so much pain that you experience that there is good reason to get caught up in the fear. All you can do is to remind yourself each time fear arises, “Trust. Trust even this fear. Can I allow myself to enter this illusion fully with as much love as I can bring to it?”<br />
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In a sense, it is not the pain of the illusion which causes you to build walls and close in the heart, but your fear that there will be pain. There is a difference here when you are afraid of the catalysts of your learning; that is, when you begin to shut out the lower-chakra experiences and grasp at the spiritual. But this is precisely where you are being offered the opportunity to practice compassion for the human, to see the human, this angel with its feet in the mud, and give it a hug instead of trying to chop off the legs and free the angel.</blockquote><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Summarisation of the Aaron Text</span><ul class="mycode_list"><li>Your spirit body is of unchanging essence, like an eternal star, yet its magnitude can range from a tiny spark to a brilliant sun.<br />
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<li>All beings are in the process of increasing this magnitude of light which is neither <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a</span> property nor <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">the</span> property of the personality.  It is both a property and the property of Eternity.<br />
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<li>How does the spirit body increase in magnitude?  The spirit body attracts a mental body and its thoughts beget self-awareness.  Mental self-awareness views its environment in terms of self and other which is the basis of all experience beneath the level of the spirit body.  We call this "An Illusion."  Yet within this illusion, at the highest level of self-aware mental body experience, it is possible to know Pure Awareness.  Thus, the separate self knows its own deeper self of pure light so that there <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">is</span> and <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">is not</span> a separate self.  In other words, consciousness becomes dual functioning as separate self and all-connected self.<br />
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<li>At this crossover point where the self-aware self connects with Pure Awareness, the awareness of the spirit body is also able to crossover to begin to experience the incarnational self in the context of feeling separation, fear, etc.  It can then help the self-aware self to clarify notions of fear and separation in the face of mundane catalyst.<br />
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<li>As the self-aware self becomes more transparent to its own complete self--being less blocked by fear, more fluid with forgiveness and being more animated with love and light--then the spirit body may grow in magnitude.  This occurs as the knowledge of self as light and love becomes reified in the context of our hurly-burly incarnative experience.<br />
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<a href="https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1988/1988_0814.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0814.aspx</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Q`uo Wrote:</cite>There is a great difference betwixt your planet which is of second-density awareness and yourselves which are of third-density or self-conscious awareness. The Earth itself lies within the power of the Logos, and does not fear change, even if the change be major and what those to whom we speak would call catastrophic. If there is to be the glacier or the greenhouse effect or the planetary shift or the great earthquake or the great conspiracy—one of several, we may add, that this instrument has heard—yet still the Earth itself shall not be afraid. Perhaps it shall feel sorrow, but it is still with the Logos; it is still imbued with love, wishing only to give and to receive that love.<br />
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For this simple reason, we would conclude this portion of our speaking by encouraging each of you to refrain from fear with the same faith of those who do not have self-consciousness, but know only the love and the light of the infinite Creator. This is a service-to-others planet, and one may see in the example of the helpful environment, the trees that breathe that which entities such as yourselves expire, and expire that which those of your kind breathe. This is one example, a rather obvious one, of the loving, serving, giving nature of second density. It moves to the light. Whatever happens to it, it shall survive in its own way, unless it be blasted to pieces, in which case it would simply die.<br />
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The planet can do a limited amount to aid a limited amount of people who are aware of places of energy which for them may be helpful. However, this aid is limited to those concepts and feelings which cannot be put into words. Thus, those whose church is the green cathedral of the forest, the mountains, and nature itself will find themselves as tongue-tied as the trees and flowers in attempting to describe or put into some meaningful context the experience of worship within the setting of nature, although it is perfectly acceptable to the Creator that the face of the Creator be seen in this density so filled with the Logos and Its consciousness.<br />
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Before we go on, we would note at this time that your yellow[-ray] physical bodies are also second-density creatures. We would now move on to the more important complex of ideas concerning what one may do to aid the planet.<br />
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As the planet and all the creatures upon it that grow and flower and turn to the light have consciousness, that consciousness is inspired and made to rejoice and flow in harmony and rhythm with any whose attention to it is loving and sweet. This is why the song sung in love aids the flower, and the soft voice helps the vegetables grow. This is why there are things other than your fertilizer and your—this instrument uses the word—pesticide that can truly aid the planet on a far more basic level for you. If you correct the soil or plant the correct crops in order to grow according to that soil, you are indeed aiding the planet by aiding its productivity, but if you have not love for the seed and love for the soil, then the second-density creatures which are the object of your dutious tending do not become self-aware, or aware of their own beauty or their own usefulness or their own sacrifice.<br />
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Beauty, function and sacrifice are three great principles of self-consciousness. They, that is those creatures which dwell in second density, are attempting to become self-conscious enough, that is, invested with enough personal consciousness of self to become fully human and begin to interact and move about the planet to learn the lessons of love once again, those very lessons which they surrender at second-density graduation in order to move into third density, study, think, experience, feel and integrate the catalyst therein and make the choice between fourth-density positive or service to others aspects of love and service to self aspects of that same love.<br />
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Thus, what one may do to aid the planet begins with the being which walks upon the grass, aware of and thanking the Earth for its energy. It is the entity which forms relationships with those second-density creatures about it, speaking with them or silently caring for them, that invest in love those creatures turning to the light to the point where they not only turn to the light, but know that they are turning to the light. It is your density’s confusion as to how to use that light, for, oh, how easy it is to choose to use that light, that power, that glory of being independent, to make free choices that do not polarize one in service to others or in some way to not aid the survival of the entity. Indeed, there are many actively self-destructive souls who polarize neither towards the positive nor the negative, but in a self-destructive manner sabotage the good with the bad, the bad with the good, remaining forever in the well of indifference which lies between the two polarities.<br />
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To aid the planet, we urge each to walk upon it and bless it, to admire the accidents of the day, the blooms that have been freely given, whether there is an eye to see or no. We urge each to be aware of the beauty, the truth, the sanctity of that green cathedral that lies without the shuttered windows of human habitation upon your planet. Were we not aware of the fragility of your physical vehicles, we would urge each to sleep upon the ground; we would urge each to make the connection, for there is a vitality to the Logos which the second-density physical body has, but which the mind complex of third-density entities most usually disables because of cultural conditioning to the contrary.<br />
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The Earth wishes to aid. It loves its human entities. It is aware that much negative energy is being stored within the Earth’s crust at this time, yet it is not resentful, but merely rueful that it may be forced to inflict damage upon creatures of third density at some time. This is the natural attitude of one which is nurturing by nature. There is no negative feeling within your planet. That which is negative within your planet are those vibrations which have been placed within it by the thought forms of those which have dwelt upon it. In order to serve those life forms, it would gladly die. May we say that the effect upon the life forms which blew it up would be burdensome in terms of your sense of time.</blockquote><br />
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Below is a fairly succinct exposition of how we are all experiments in conscious awareness.  First is an except from the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues with Barbara Brodsky channeling the entity Aaron.  And I have followed that with an outline of his information in my own wording, hoping to make the channeled material more digestible.  It's not difficult to understand, per se, but the ideas are large and packed closely together.<br />
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Whereas the Aaron text describes the situation from the top down (from the spirit body to the self-awareness of the mental body to the emotional body), the Q'uo passage from a few years prior looks at consciousness from the other direction, that is, beginning with the simpler awareness of second density as it moves up into the "self-awareness" of third density.  This is to say, second density creatures, let's say, when they have a broken foot, they do not complain, "<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">My</span> foot is broken!"  It's more like, "There is a broken foot."  They lack the sense of self importance humans have because they do not feel the kind of self vs. others sense of identity we have.  For example, although they will try to evade a predator, when it comes time to die, they simply surrender to death.  They trust the process because they feel connected to the natural flow of life.  And yet they will eventually give up that very connectedness in order to enter third density and experience that sense of individual isolation which self-awareness brings.  From this position of third density separation they eventually reconnect with Oneness as they become individuated self-aware love-embracing entities as they become ready to do work in fourth density consciousness.<br />
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This particular passage also beautifully reminds us of our role in enspiriting second density creatures with our love, and how this aids them on their journey towards our current density of experience.  At the same time, sharing love with second density beings also helps us open our hearts on our way to life in fourth density.  Perhaps these two excepts will shed some light upon the underlying beauty of this mysterious process?<br />
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<a href="https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1993/1993_0321_draft.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue...draft.aspx</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Aaron Wrote:</cite>I have just offered Barbara a complex thought which was not channeled with complete clarity. I wish to explain this a bit. The spirit body is this spark of the Divine. It is perfect. It needs nothing beyond itself, and yet it is just a spark. It is capable of infinite expansion. The divine essence of it does not change, but its power changes so that you move from that small spark of God into a brilliant sun. This essence of divinity within each of you is not separate from God, nor is it in itself God, but is a part of that infinite energy, light and love.<br />
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If you had a vast ocean, an infinite sea, and you took a drop of water from a dropper and dropped it into that sea, no matter that it was already infinite, it would expand. You add that drop to it. Each of you is involved in this process of expanding and enhancing your own energy and light, which does not belong personally to you, but in eighth-density experience moves back fully into the Eternal and thereby expands the Infinite, expands the light and love in the universe.<br />
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So, the soul itself is not learning, but the soul within what we call the Higher Self is accompanied by the mental body. As soon as there is thought, there is distortion, because with thought there is self-awareness. As soon as you are aware of a self, you move into the distortion of self and other. This distortion is part of the illusion and is useful, even necessary for a certain distance on your path. But there is also the level of awareness that there is no separate self. Pure Awareness knows that this which has perceived itself as separate is truly of the essence of the Eternal.<br />
Here is where you move into and out of illusion. The Higher Self then moves into the incarnative experience, manifesting form and taking on the heaviness of the emotional body so that it can work with the earth catalysts and clarify this energy that you are.<br />
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The ideas of love, compassion—what do these mean? If there was never any pain, it would be easy to feel love. You would never feel threatened. You would never close or build that wall. But what would this love mean? When you are offered the heavy catalysts that you are offered on this plane and can still forgive, still find compassion, still love, can you see that you are expanding that original spark? The light grows purer.<br />
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In effect, this small spark within you is fed by the fuel of earth’s catalysts, and two responses are possible. One is that those catalysts feel so heavy that you shut the doors, thus enclosing that flame within and not allowing it to return itself to God. The second choice is that you watch the process of closing and opening, fear and love, and find compassion for the human who is experiencing this physical pain, this emotional pain. This growing compassion serves to add fuel to the spark so that it burns more and more brilliantly. The shadow falls away, and what is finally returned to God has become a sun in its own right.<br />
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So, you are in this illusion and yet being asked to relate to it openheartedly with balance, working with all the catalysts of the lower chakras, welcoming these catalysts, not preferring the upper-chakra energy, not preferring being angels to the experience of the earthsuit. This is your greatest challenge, because it is so painful to keep coming back to that earthsuit when the heart yearns to be free and back on that plane of light and love where there are no distortions of fear.<br />
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There must be constant awareness, a noticing of the beginnings of a dialogue with fear, a willingness not to get caught up in that fear and be reactive to it. Certainly there is so much pain that you experience that there is good reason to get caught up in the fear. All you can do is to remind yourself each time fear arises, “Trust. Trust even this fear. Can I allow myself to enter this illusion fully with as much love as I can bring to it?”<br />
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In a sense, it is not the pain of the illusion which causes you to build walls and close in the heart, but your fear that there will be pain. There is a difference here when you are afraid of the catalysts of your learning; that is, when you begin to shut out the lower-chakra experiences and grasp at the spiritual. But this is precisely where you are being offered the opportunity to practice compassion for the human, to see the human, this angel with its feet in the mud, and give it a hug instead of trying to chop off the legs and free the angel.</blockquote><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Summarisation of the Aaron Text</span><ul class="mycode_list"><li>Your spirit body is of unchanging essence, like an eternal star, yet its magnitude can range from a tiny spark to a brilliant sun.<br />
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<li>All beings are in the process of increasing this magnitude of light which is neither <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">a</span> property nor <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">the</span> property of the personality.  It is both a property and the property of Eternity.<br />
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<li>How does the spirit body increase in magnitude?  The spirit body attracts a mental body and its thoughts beget self-awareness.  Mental self-awareness views its environment in terms of self and other which is the basis of all experience beneath the level of the spirit body.  We call this "An Illusion."  Yet within this illusion, at the highest level of self-aware mental body experience, it is possible to know Pure Awareness.  Thus, the separate self knows its own deeper self of pure light so that there <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">is</span> and <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">is not</span> a separate self.  In other words, consciousness becomes dual functioning as separate self and all-connected self.<br />
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<li>At this crossover point where the self-aware self connects with Pure Awareness, the awareness of the spirit body is also able to crossover to begin to experience the incarnational self in the context of feeling separation, fear, etc.  It can then help the self-aware self to clarify notions of fear and separation in the face of mundane catalyst.<br />
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<li>As the self-aware self becomes more transparent to its own complete self--being less blocked by fear, more fluid with forgiveness and being more animated with love and light--then the spirit body may grow in magnitude.  This occurs as the knowledge of self as light and love becomes reified in the context of our hurly-burly incarnative experience.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Q`uo Wrote:</cite>There is a great difference betwixt your planet which is of second-density awareness and yourselves which are of third-density or self-conscious awareness. The Earth itself lies within the power of the Logos, and does not fear change, even if the change be major and what those to whom we speak would call catastrophic. If there is to be the glacier or the greenhouse effect or the planetary shift or the great earthquake or the great conspiracy—one of several, we may add, that this instrument has heard—yet still the Earth itself shall not be afraid. Perhaps it shall feel sorrow, but it is still with the Logos; it is still imbued with love, wishing only to give and to receive that love.<br />
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For this simple reason, we would conclude this portion of our speaking by encouraging each of you to refrain from fear with the same faith of those who do not have self-consciousness, but know only the love and the light of the infinite Creator. This is a service-to-others planet, and one may see in the example of the helpful environment, the trees that breathe that which entities such as yourselves expire, and expire that which those of your kind breathe. This is one example, a rather obvious one, of the loving, serving, giving nature of second density. It moves to the light. Whatever happens to it, it shall survive in its own way, unless it be blasted to pieces, in which case it would simply die.<br />
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The planet can do a limited amount to aid a limited amount of people who are aware of places of energy which for them may be helpful. However, this aid is limited to those concepts and feelings which cannot be put into words. Thus, those whose church is the green cathedral of the forest, the mountains, and nature itself will find themselves as tongue-tied as the trees and flowers in attempting to describe or put into some meaningful context the experience of worship within the setting of nature, although it is perfectly acceptable to the Creator that the face of the Creator be seen in this density so filled with the Logos and Its consciousness.<br />
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Before we go on, we would note at this time that your yellow[-ray] physical bodies are also second-density creatures. We would now move on to the more important complex of ideas concerning what one may do to aid the planet.<br />
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As the planet and all the creatures upon it that grow and flower and turn to the light have consciousness, that consciousness is inspired and made to rejoice and flow in harmony and rhythm with any whose attention to it is loving and sweet. This is why the song sung in love aids the flower, and the soft voice helps the vegetables grow. This is why there are things other than your fertilizer and your—this instrument uses the word—pesticide that can truly aid the planet on a far more basic level for you. If you correct the soil or plant the correct crops in order to grow according to that soil, you are indeed aiding the planet by aiding its productivity, but if you have not love for the seed and love for the soil, then the second-density creatures which are the object of your dutious tending do not become self-aware, or aware of their own beauty or their own usefulness or their own sacrifice.<br />
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Beauty, function and sacrifice are three great principles of self-consciousness. They, that is those creatures which dwell in second density, are attempting to become self-conscious enough, that is, invested with enough personal consciousness of self to become fully human and begin to interact and move about the planet to learn the lessons of love once again, those very lessons which they surrender at second-density graduation in order to move into third density, study, think, experience, feel and integrate the catalyst therein and make the choice between fourth-density positive or service to others aspects of love and service to self aspects of that same love.<br />
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Thus, what one may do to aid the planet begins with the being which walks upon the grass, aware of and thanking the Earth for its energy. It is the entity which forms relationships with those second-density creatures about it, speaking with them or silently caring for them, that invest in love those creatures turning to the light to the point where they not only turn to the light, but know that they are turning to the light. It is your density’s confusion as to how to use that light, for, oh, how easy it is to choose to use that light, that power, that glory of being independent, to make free choices that do not polarize one in service to others or in some way to not aid the survival of the entity. Indeed, there are many actively self-destructive souls who polarize neither towards the positive nor the negative, but in a self-destructive manner sabotage the good with the bad, the bad with the good, remaining forever in the well of indifference which lies between the two polarities.<br />
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To aid the planet, we urge each to walk upon it and bless it, to admire the accidents of the day, the blooms that have been freely given, whether there is an eye to see or no. We urge each to be aware of the beauty, the truth, the sanctity of that green cathedral that lies without the shuttered windows of human habitation upon your planet. Were we not aware of the fragility of your physical vehicles, we would urge each to sleep upon the ground; we would urge each to make the connection, for there is a vitality to the Logos which the second-density physical body has, but which the mind complex of third-density entities most usually disables because of cultural conditioning to the contrary.<br />
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The Earth wishes to aid. It loves its human entities. It is aware that much negative energy is being stored within the Earth’s crust at this time, yet it is not resentful, but merely rueful that it may be forced to inflict damage upon creatures of third density at some time. This is the natural attitude of one which is nurturing by nature. There is no negative feeling within your planet. That which is negative within your planet are those vibrations which have been placed within it by the thought forms of those which have dwelt upon it. In order to serve those life forms, it would gladly die. May we say that the effect upon the life forms which blew it up would be burdensome in terms of your sense of time.</blockquote><br />
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