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			<title><![CDATA[The Key to Graduating 3rd Density (Law of One) ft. Kyle Cease]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2022 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The key is forgiveness.<br />
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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2022 16:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[What does 4th-density Earth look like?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 00:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[======== updated 4/22/2022 ========<br />
Did some research on this topic. Below summarizes my understandings (could be wrong, welcome to correct me.):<br />
<br />
Timeline<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Harvest is started around 2011. Transition will be completed in ~150 years. See <a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19500" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">timeline</a>.<br />
</li>
</ul>
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General<ul class="mycode_list"><li>4th-density is of Love.<br />
</li>
<li>Earth transition involves massive destruction on Earth surface, physical changes in land masses and atmosphere. Considered to be cataclysmic.<br />
Sources:<br />
**chapter 5 of <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/library/voices-of-the-confederation" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/library/voice...federation</a>. "... in the forms of earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions, and in fact a shift of the poles of your planet ..."<br />
**Bible, “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me.”. Hatton also said "These words are not false words, my friends. These words are meant for you", "... must be kept uppermost in your consciousness. For you will walk through this valley" (see book above).<br />
**Chapter 11. Many lives, many masters, by Dr. Brian Weiss. The messages he got through his client under hypnosis. "It will happen sooner than they think. Nature will survive. Plans will survive. But we will not".<br />
According to Confederation, it is a good thing because of the release of disharmony energies. Earth will be purified.<br />
</li>
<li>There are total seven Earths at the same time (versions, not multiple planets), entity of different spiritual development see different versions. (62.29)<br />
</li>
<li>Earth is a 4th-density positive planet, only good, loving, compassionate souls are here. Full of harmony, like heaven (16.50, 63.9, page 14 of <a href="https://assets.llresearch.org/books/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://assets.llresearch.org/books/livi...choice.pdf</a>)<br />
</li>
<li>There are still 1st and 2nd density beings, but no 3rd density beings (inhabitable for 3rd density). (62.29)<br />
</li>
<li>Forming social memory complex. 4th to 5th density harvest is based on the readiness of social memory complex. (43.13)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Body<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Bipedal body, much denser. (16.50)<br />
</li>
<li>Body appearance is similar to 3rd density, chemical elements are not the same. (43.16)<br />
</li>
<li>Body appearance difference between individuals will be dramatic. It is estimated 95%+ are from other planets. (90.8, 63.22)<br />
</li>
<li>Average lifespan is 90,000 years. Total cycle is 30 million years. (43.11, 43.13)<br />
</li>
<li>No much physical pain to experience. But mental and spiritual pain are catalysts for development, should be significant. (43.9)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Food<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Still need to eat food. (43.17)<br />
</li>
<li>Food preparation is extremely simple. (43.18)<br />
</li>
<li>Can communicate with living foodstuff. (43.18)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Capabilities<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Veil is lifted, can remember all the lifetimes and all the learnings. (<a href="https://assets.llresearch.org/books/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://assets.llresearch.org/books/livi...choice.pdf</a> page 28)<br />
</li>
<li>Communication via thoughts directly, not of words, unless chosen. (16.50)<br />
</li>
<li>Can bend metal mentally. (63.16)<br />
</li>
</ul>
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Welcome to add!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[======== updated 4/22/2022 ========<br />
Did some research on this topic. Below summarizes my understandings (could be wrong, welcome to correct me.):<br />
<br />
Timeline<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Harvest is started around 2011. Transition will be completed in ~150 years. See <a href="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19500" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">timeline</a>.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
General<ul class="mycode_list"><li>4th-density is of Love.<br />
</li>
<li>Earth transition involves massive destruction on Earth surface, physical changes in land masses and atmosphere. Considered to be cataclysmic.<br />
Sources:<br />
**chapter 5 of <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/library/voices-of-the-confederation" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/library/voice...federation</a>. "... in the forms of earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions, and in fact a shift of the poles of your planet ..."<br />
**Bible, “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me.”. Hatton also said "These words are not false words, my friends. These words are meant for you", "... must be kept uppermost in your consciousness. For you will walk through this valley" (see book above).<br />
**Chapter 11. Many lives, many masters, by Dr. Brian Weiss. The messages he got through his client under hypnosis. "It will happen sooner than they think. Nature will survive. Plans will survive. But we will not".<br />
According to Confederation, it is a good thing because of the release of disharmony energies. Earth will be purified.<br />
</li>
<li>There are total seven Earths at the same time (versions, not multiple planets), entity of different spiritual development see different versions. (62.29)<br />
</li>
<li>Earth is a 4th-density positive planet, only good, loving, compassionate souls are here. Full of harmony, like heaven (16.50, 63.9, page 14 of <a href="https://assets.llresearch.org/books/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://assets.llresearch.org/books/livi...choice.pdf</a>)<br />
</li>
<li>There are still 1st and 2nd density beings, but no 3rd density beings (inhabitable for 3rd density). (62.29)<br />
</li>
<li>Forming social memory complex. 4th to 5th density harvest is based on the readiness of social memory complex. (43.13)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Body<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Bipedal body, much denser. (16.50)<br />
</li>
<li>Body appearance is similar to 3rd density, chemical elements are not the same. (43.16)<br />
</li>
<li>Body appearance difference between individuals will be dramatic. It is estimated 95%+ are from other planets. (90.8, 63.22)<br />
</li>
<li>Average lifespan is 90,000 years. Total cycle is 30 million years. (43.11, 43.13)<br />
</li>
<li>No much physical pain to experience. But mental and spiritual pain are catalysts for development, should be significant. (43.9)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Food<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Still need to eat food. (43.17)<br />
</li>
<li>Food preparation is extremely simple. (43.18)<br />
</li>
<li>Can communicate with living foodstuff. (43.18)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Capabilities<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Veil is lifted, can remember all the lifetimes and all the learnings. (<a href="https://assets.llresearch.org/books/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://assets.llresearch.org/books/livi...choice.pdf</a> page 28)<br />
</li>
<li>Communication via thoughts directly, not of words, unless chosen. (16.50)<br />
</li>
<li>Can bend metal mentally. (63.16)<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
Welcome to add!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Was this why the harvest was never explained in detail?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2022 00:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[All of the confederation members were always quite vague as to the nuances of how the transition occurred. The only tidbit was that the population would begin to dwindle. With the ever present virus, couples having less children, and now war, maybe the reason why they wouldn’t go into detail was because the ways it happened would cause fear which would go against their teachings and allowed fee will to be preserved. What is everyone’s thoughts on the subject. Please stick to the Law of One references on this and refrain from outside influences if I may ask.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[All of the confederation members were always quite vague as to the nuances of how the transition occurred. The only tidbit was that the population would begin to dwindle. With the ever present virus, couples having less children, and now war, maybe the reason why they wouldn’t go into detail was because the ways it happened would cause fear which would go against their teachings and allowed fee will to be preserved. What is everyone’s thoughts on the subject. Please stick to the Law of One references on this and refrain from outside influences if I may ask.]]></content:encoded>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2022 18:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[competition]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 10:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Of the many things I am trying to work on, the concept of competition is up there at the top. Being more specific, we can examine others and compare our behaviors to theirs. With objectivity and humility, that exercise can be quite useful in identifying areas that each of us could improve upon - so far, so good. Yet, I find myself slipping into a “ranking” trap where that objective process leads to a determination of “better” or “worse”.<br />
<br />
This is so frustrating! I can intellectually understand that, in a Reality where everything is infinite, the whole idea of better or worse is ridiculous from so many perspectives. Not only is it just silly because even the best of us, or the best of a 6th dimensional, or anyone is still, by definition, infinitely away from perfection. Moreover, since understanding is infinite, we don’t know what is better or worse, so only by trial and error - a generalized scientific method - do we gradually learn.<br />
<br />
Now, I catch myself doing this ranking most of the time right after I do it, but it DOES happen. I try to say that I will learn from this, and I guess I am. I think this whole ranking need must stem from an intrinsic insecurity which itself may be tied to the concept of perfectionism. Yes, I know being a perfectionist is just plain wrong, as stated above, but it exists somewhere in me anyway. <br />
<br />
Ranking is connected to competition which seems to be a very fundamental part of the human condition. A small part of competition might be beneficial in learning, but for the most part, it seems detrimental. Does anyone have suggestions that might help kick me of this “habit” other than purely intellectualizing it?<br />
<br />
Thanks, I truly appreciate it.<br />
<br />
If a similar thread appeared previously, I apologize. I did do a search in the forum and didn't see quite what I was looking for - but it is a big forum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Of the many things I am trying to work on, the concept of competition is up there at the top. Being more specific, we can examine others and compare our behaviors to theirs. With objectivity and humility, that exercise can be quite useful in identifying areas that each of us could improve upon - so far, so good. Yet, I find myself slipping into a “ranking” trap where that objective process leads to a determination of “better” or “worse”.<br />
<br />
This is so frustrating! I can intellectually understand that, in a Reality where everything is infinite, the whole idea of better or worse is ridiculous from so many perspectives. Not only is it just silly because even the best of us, or the best of a 6th dimensional, or anyone is still, by definition, infinitely away from perfection. Moreover, since understanding is infinite, we don’t know what is better or worse, so only by trial and error - a generalized scientific method - do we gradually learn.<br />
<br />
Now, I catch myself doing this ranking most of the time right after I do it, but it DOES happen. I try to say that I will learn from this, and I guess I am. I think this whole ranking need must stem from an intrinsic insecurity which itself may be tied to the concept of perfectionism. Yes, I know being a perfectionist is just plain wrong, as stated above, but it exists somewhere in me anyway. <br />
<br />
Ranking is connected to competition which seems to be a very fundamental part of the human condition. A small part of competition might be beneficial in learning, but for the most part, it seems detrimental. Does anyone have suggestions that might help kick me of this “habit” other than purely intellectualizing it?<br />
<br />
Thanks, I truly appreciate it.<br />
<br />
If a similar thread appeared previously, I apologize. I did do a search in the forum and didn't see quite what I was looking for - but it is a big forum.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[perspective on action vs inaction]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19539</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 16:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Before I begin, let me apologize for what may sound like a rather rude first post, but I do need some perspectives here since it truly is bothering me.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Let me see if I get the big picture.</span></span><br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">In the near future, all humans on earth - men, women, and children - will die.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A small percentage will transition to the 4th dimension.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The rest will be scattered to other 3D planets to basically start over.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The “good guys” will do nothing except talk in a limited way to a limited audience, perhaps since they already messed up in the past.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The “bad guys” are breaking rules to infiltrate earth and manipulate us to be controlled or much, much worse (i.e., torture us to gather negative energy).</span></span><br />
</li>
</ol>
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Is it just me, or does this sound completely messed up? Don’t immediately respond that I am an ignorant 3d-er since I know that all too well and freely admit it. And don’t simply respond that the our primary task for each of us is to evolve to a more service to others perspective - that has always been and will be true. But I think we all know that, since everything is infinite, there can be no definitive “right” or “wrong” paths. There can be “more fruitful” or “less fruitful” paths to try. Of course, no one (even in 5th or 6th) can know for sure which path that will be, so we experiment - and learn.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">What would most humans or even the Ra say to the following scenarios?</span></span><br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A terrible flood wipes out a small town and my response is “Well, you shouldn’t have built on a flood plain.”</span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A homeless person asks for food and my response is “What do expect without a job?”</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Even if both answers had a grain of truth, we all know that the real answers to both would be to build dikes, or drug rehab centers, or TRY something instead of just saying “Well, that’s just the way it is” and continue to talk about it.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Something is just not right either here or, more probably, in my perception of it. I get a detached feeling from the Ra material ; the words are right but the feeling is neutral. Actually, the only channeled entity I’ve read that truly seems to exude love and joy was the original one - Seth. Seth did say that we create on own Reality, but it seems like our Reality has also been externally interfered with many times.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">I again admit to being a grossly ignorant human with so many faults and I know this is not the best way to enter such an interesting forum, but I am keen to hear from both sides of the reaction to this post. Perhaps I can become a bit less ignorant and move forward - which is the whole point after all. Thank you to all.</span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Before I begin, let me apologize for what may sound like a rather rude first post, but I do need some perspectives here since it truly is bothering me.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Let me see if I get the big picture.</span></span><br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">In the near future, all humans on earth - men, women, and children - will die.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A small percentage will transition to the 4th dimension.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The rest will be scattered to other 3D planets to basically start over.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The “good guys” will do nothing except talk in a limited way to a limited audience, perhaps since they already messed up in the past.</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">The “bad guys” are breaking rules to infiltrate earth and manipulate us to be controlled or much, much worse (i.e., torture us to gather negative energy).</span></span><br />
</li>
</ol>
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Is it just me, or does this sound completely messed up? Don’t immediately respond that I am an ignorant 3d-er since I know that all too well and freely admit it. And don’t simply respond that the our primary task for each of us is to evolve to a more service to others perspective - that has always been and will be true. But I think we all know that, since everything is infinite, there can be no definitive “right” or “wrong” paths. There can be “more fruitful” or “less fruitful” paths to try. Of course, no one (even in 5th or 6th) can know for sure which path that will be, so we experiment - and learn.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">What would most humans or even the Ra say to the following scenarios?</span></span><br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A terrible flood wipes out a small town and my response is “Well, you shouldn’t have built on a flood plain.”</span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">A homeless person asks for food and my response is “What do expect without a job?”</span></span><br />
</li>
</ol>
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Even if both answers had a grain of truth, we all know that the real answers to both would be to build dikes, or drug rehab centers, or TRY something instead of just saying “Well, that’s just the way it is” and continue to talk about it.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">Something is just not right either here or, more probably, in my perception of it. I get a detached feeling from the Ra material ; the words are right but the feeling is neutral. Actually, the only channeled entity I’ve read that truly seems to exude love and joy was the original one - Seth. Seth did say that we create on own Reality, but it seems like our Reality has also been externally interfered with many times.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue;" class="mycode_font">I again admit to being a grossly ignorant human with so many faults and I know this is not the best way to enter such an interesting forum, but I am keen to hear from both sides of the reaction to this post. Perhaps I can become a bit less ignorant and move forward - which is the whole point after all. Thank you to all.</span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Harvest 17.29]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19500</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2021 03:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[======== updated 4/22/2022 ========<br />
Thanks to helps from lots of people! Below is summary of my latest understanding about transition to 4th density. Hope it is helpful.<br />
<br />
Destiny of human on Earth<br />
A three-way split (see 63.9):<br />
1. Positive polarity harvestable remains on Earth as fourth-density, small amount.<br />
2. Negative polarity harvestable goes to another fourth-density planet.<br />
3. The rest unharvestable goes to another third-density planet.<br />
<br />
Timeline<br />
1. Earth started transition to 4th density in around 2011. <br />
See 17.29<br />
2. The process will last 140~150 years (Quo), 100~700 years (Ra)<br />
See <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2016/0206" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2016/0206</a>, 40.8<br />
3.  All third-density physical bodies to go through death to inhabit 4th-density.<br />
See 63.20<br />
4. There are ~60 million wanderers here at this moment to help on the transition, like Don, Carla, Jim.<br />
See 12.28, 12.32<br />
5. There are 4th body/mind/spirit density entities around us now, but invisible to us. Once transition is finished, they will show.<br />
See 12.17<br />
<br />
Earth will go through destructions like earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions, pole shift.<br />
See chapter 5 of <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/library/voices-of-the-confederation" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/library/voice...federation</a><br />
<br />
“Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me.”<br />
From bible<br />
<br />
Prepare ourselves!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[======== updated 4/22/2022 ========<br />
Thanks to helps from lots of people! Below is summary of my latest understanding about transition to 4th density. Hope it is helpful.<br />
<br />
Destiny of human on Earth<br />
A three-way split (see 63.9):<br />
1. Positive polarity harvestable remains on Earth as fourth-density, small amount.<br />
2. Negative polarity harvestable goes to another fourth-density planet.<br />
3. The rest unharvestable goes to another third-density planet.<br />
<br />
Timeline<br />
1. Earth started transition to 4th density in around 2011. <br />
See 17.29<br />
2. The process will last 140~150 years (Quo), 100~700 years (Ra)<br />
See <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2016/0206" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2016/0206</a>, 40.8<br />
3.  All third-density physical bodies to go through death to inhabit 4th-density.<br />
See 63.20<br />
4. There are ~60 million wanderers here at this moment to help on the transition, like Don, Carla, Jim.<br />
See 12.28, 12.32<br />
5. There are 4th body/mind/spirit density entities around us now, but invisible to us. Once transition is finished, they will show.<br />
See 12.17<br />
<br />
Earth will go through destructions like earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions, pole shift.<br />
See chapter 5 of <a href="https://www.llresearch.org/library/voices-of-the-confederation" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.llresearch.org/library/voice...federation</a><br />
<br />
“Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me.”<br />
From bible<br />
<br />
Prepare ourselves!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[5D EARTH IS GOING THROUGH BIRTHING PAINS]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19473</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 01:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[5D EARTH IS GOING THROUGH BIRTHING PAINS<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33PEzrTLfmc" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33PEzrTLfmc</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[5D EARTH IS GOING THROUGH BIRTHING PAINS<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33PEzrTLfmc" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33PEzrTLfmc</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Global Polarity]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19355</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2021 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Currently reading <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">A Wanderer's Handbook</span>. This excerpt talking about the "magnetizing" effect of polarity filled me with hope. If true, I feel like this concept of exponential magnetizing explains how earth will eventually develop positive polarity as the strength will become overbearing for negative entities.<br />
<br />
In the concept of polarity in the physical sense, there is included the<br />
concept of the compound magnet, which is two or more magnets with the<br />
same charge pointing the same way, so that the fields combine. It seems to<br />
me that in an important way, we as spiritual beings become, first magnetized,<br />
and then, as the learning deepens, magnets. So I asked Bruce Peret if<br />
we as a planetary body of awakened wanderers would be a compound<br />
magnet, and if we would have an advance in power over what we could offer<br />
on our own. Bruce replied:<br />
Joining two magnets doubles the magnetic field; three triple it. It is a<br />
straight, linear progression. The only tangible difference is that a larger<br />
magnet can affect a larger area, and the area within the magnet, itself,<br />
becomes coherent. But, of course, we are still talking in first density<br />
here, with magnets. If you take the logical extrapolation, a third-density<br />
“biological magnetic field” would increase exponentially by joining<br />
together. The densities could be enumerated as: first density = 0 (base),<br />
second density = 1, third density = 2. You would then take this density<br />
enumeration, and raise it to the power of the number of individuals<br />
working in harmony, either STS or STO. It doesn’t matter in first<br />
density, since “0” raised to any power is always “0.” It also doesn’t<br />
matter in second density, since “1” raised to any power is also “1.”<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">However, in third density, “2” raised to a power can make a radical<br />
difference to the overall field strength. A single person, 21 = 2. Two<br />
people: 22 = 4. Three: 23 = 8. Twenty people, 220 = 1,048,576. Twenty<br />
people of third density can produce a similar field strength of over a<br />
million entities of second density. Quite a difference.<br />
I hope this computation of the possibilities of conscious work as a group<br />
encourages us all to be aware of, and lean into, a daily remembrance of<br />
dedicating just a bit of time to planetary work. We can be a part of a very<br />
powerful force for positivity.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Currently reading <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">A Wanderer's Handbook</span>. This excerpt talking about the "magnetizing" effect of polarity filled me with hope. If true, I feel like this concept of exponential magnetizing explains how earth will eventually develop positive polarity as the strength will become overbearing for negative entities.<br />
<br />
In the concept of polarity in the physical sense, there is included the<br />
concept of the compound magnet, which is two or more magnets with the<br />
same charge pointing the same way, so that the fields combine. It seems to<br />
me that in an important way, we as spiritual beings become, first magnetized,<br />
and then, as the learning deepens, magnets. So I asked Bruce Peret if<br />
we as a planetary body of awakened wanderers would be a compound<br />
magnet, and if we would have an advance in power over what we could offer<br />
on our own. Bruce replied:<br />
Joining two magnets doubles the magnetic field; three triple it. It is a<br />
straight, linear progression. The only tangible difference is that a larger<br />
magnet can affect a larger area, and the area within the magnet, itself,<br />
becomes coherent. But, of course, we are still talking in first density<br />
here, with magnets. If you take the logical extrapolation, a third-density<br />
“biological magnetic field” would increase exponentially by joining<br />
together. The densities could be enumerated as: first density = 0 (base),<br />
second density = 1, third density = 2. You would then take this density<br />
enumeration, and raise it to the power of the number of individuals<br />
working in harmony, either STS or STO. It doesn’t matter in first<br />
density, since “0” raised to any power is always “0.” It also doesn’t<br />
matter in second density, since “1” raised to any power is also “1.”<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">However, in third density, “2” raised to a power can make a radical<br />
difference to the overall field strength. A single person, 21 = 2. Two<br />
people: 22 = 4. Three: 23 = 8. Twenty people, 220 = 1,048,576. Twenty<br />
people of third density can produce a similar field strength of over a<br />
million entities of second density. Quite a difference.<br />
I hope this computation of the possibilities of conscious work as a group<br />
encourages us all to be aware of, and lean into, a daily remembrance of<br />
dedicating just a bit of time to planetary work. We can be a part of a very<br />
powerful force for positivity.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19309</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2021 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[First a bigger quotation of the <a href="https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2017/2017_0226.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Special Meditation February 26, 2017</a> i had to think of today, sitting at our river, looking at the nature:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Gary:</span> In <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">63.24</span>, the questioner asked, “Then, as the fourth-density sphere is activated there is heat energy being generated. I assume this heat energy is generated in the third-density sphere only. Is this correct?”<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Ra replied:</span> “This is quite correct. The experiential distortions of each dimension are discrete.”<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Q’uo:</span> I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. This is a query which is not easily answered with simple yes’s and no’s, for there is much that is anomalistic about your particular planet, and its transition into the fourth density. The quantum leap that those of Ra were speaking of is that which this planet itself has achieved, for the planetary entity is a fourth-density entity. The individuals and social complexes upon it, however, are, in some cases, upon a level of third- and fourth-density combination, [but] mostly the third, as you would surmise from news of the day, shall we say.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
As far as the discrete movement of the consciousness complexes of the peoples of your planet, there is, at this time, and has been for a number of years, the birthing into incarnation of those entities that have both the third- and fourth-density bodies activated, so that there is, indeed, a new breed of entity upon the planetary surface at this time. This number is increasing daily. These entities have much more ability to affect the consciousness of this planet at this time, and the consciousness of those about them, for they have the, shall we say, need to aid in the harvest which is a basic need that is at the foundation of the reason for their incarnating here. It is a great honor and privilege to be allowed this early in incarnation. <br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
We would further add that there are many entities at this time that are working very diligently—both on the third-density level and upon the higher realms within the planetary entity itself—to aid in the transition into the fourth density. These entities are, shall we say, making every possible effort to aid in this transition, so that their success would be a primary factor that must be taken into account, when considering the nature of the move into fourth density in its completeness.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
Thus, though it is possible for your planet to make a discrete choice to, as Ra said, choose in one fine, strong moment of inspiration to polarize positively, this is the choice that all those entities within the inner planes are hoping is made in your near future. However, this is not a probable choice, though it is ever possible. Thus, it is within a time period that those of Ra mentioned to be between 100 and 700 of your years that is most likely to be the case for this discrete transformation. In the overall movement of time, as you know it, this is a large period of time. In the movement of time into the fourth density of 30 million years, it is but a few moments.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
We would call your attention to the difference between a yellow-ray activated vehicle, such as is the most common upon this planet at this time, and the dual-activated vehicle, which is of the nature of something of an anomaly because the stronger pull, shall we say, in such a dual activated body is still going to be back toward the third ray, that is the yellow-ray vehicle. We say this because it remains the case that the veiling continues to be in place between the mind, and the body, and the spirit, and it will be a mark of fourth density that this veiling is removed.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
So the question is: Because the yellow-ray body is incompatible with the green-ray environment, does the final, full activation of the green-ray environment in space/time wait for the final yellow-ray body to move through what we call death?<br />
<br />
(Jim channeling)<br />
<br />
I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. This is, in general, a correct assumption. For even if the entire planetary population made that one fine, strong choice for positive polarity, there would at that time be the necessity for the dropping of the physical vehicle of third-density: the yellow-ray body. At that time, there would be the ascension of the indigo-ray body, the form-maker body, into the realms of light, and this time would be that in which the steps of light, or the strength of light, would gauge the ability of the entity to withstand the impact of the light in an harvestable degree. This, having been determined primarily by the choice of the entity to pursue positive polarity with every fiber of its being, shall we say, the moving into the light being the confirmation of this choice. That is the situation which would pertain in the possible choice of positive polarity by the entire population of your planet.<br />
<br />
If the choices are more gradual, the same basic situation would also obtain, in that the entities would move through the death process in a manner which would exemplify the normal death process. The entity—not being consciously aware of its harvestability due to the group choice towards positive polarity—would then move into the form-maker body upon its yellow-ray body’s death, and again, move into the light which would gauge the harvestability of the entity, according to the energy centers’ ability to stand the impact of the love and light.</blockquote>
<br />
So this planet is already a fourth-density entity and i will assume the meaning is, that this will enclose all the matter of the mineral world (this will be the entity of first density in respect to a similar differentiation by Rudolf Steiner).<br />
<br />
The channelings i know (like the above one) will treat mainly the question of what is happening with the entities of the third density - and this is of course an important question of our destiny.<br />
<br />
But what will happen with all the plants and animals of the second density?<br />
<br />
And what kind of entities are meant "that are working very diligently—both on the third-density level and upon the higher realms within the planetary entity itself"?<br />
(Maybe this questions can be adressed at Q'uo in future meditations, if it cannot be answered here?)<br />
<br />
<hr class="mycode_hr" />
<br />
Well - here are my feelings and thoughts today for discussion:<br />
<br />
My feelings say that the second density is already a part of the fourth-density too.<br />
<br />
My thoughts say that most of the plants and animals will not live long enough, that it makes an determining difference if they are already third or fourth density.<br />
But when the final movement into fourth density has come, what will happen to the second density?<br />
<br />
For the third density Q'uo has said that it would move through the death process.<br />
What will happen with the entities that "have both the third- and fourth-density bodies activated"?<br />
That's not really clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[First a bigger quotation of the <a href="https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2017/2017_0226.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Special Meditation February 26, 2017</a> i had to think of today, sitting at our river, looking at the nature:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Gary:</span> In <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">63.24</span>, the questioner asked, “Then, as the fourth-density sphere is activated there is heat energy being generated. I assume this heat energy is generated in the third-density sphere only. Is this correct?”<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Ra replied:</span> “This is quite correct. The experiential distortions of each dimension are discrete.”<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Q’uo:</span> I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. This is a query which is not easily answered with simple yes’s and no’s, for there is much that is anomalistic about your particular planet, and its transition into the fourth density. The quantum leap that those of Ra were speaking of is that which this planet itself has achieved, for the planetary entity is a fourth-density entity. The individuals and social complexes upon it, however, are, in some cases, upon a level of third- and fourth-density combination, [but] mostly the third, as you would surmise from news of the day, shall we say.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
As far as the discrete movement of the consciousness complexes of the peoples of your planet, there is, at this time, and has been for a number of years, the birthing into incarnation of those entities that have both the third- and fourth-density bodies activated, so that there is, indeed, a new breed of entity upon the planetary surface at this time. This number is increasing daily. These entities have much more ability to affect the consciousness of this planet at this time, and the consciousness of those about them, for they have the, shall we say, need to aid in the harvest which is a basic need that is at the foundation of the reason for their incarnating here. It is a great honor and privilege to be allowed this early in incarnation. <br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
We would further add that there are many entities at this time that are working very diligently—both on the third-density level and upon the higher realms within the planetary entity itself—to aid in the transition into the fourth density. These entities are, shall we say, making every possible effort to aid in this transition, so that their success would be a primary factor that must be taken into account, when considering the nature of the move into fourth density in its completeness.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
Thus, though it is possible for your planet to make a discrete choice to, as Ra said, choose in one fine, strong moment of inspiration to polarize positively, this is the choice that all those entities within the inner planes are hoping is made in your near future. However, this is not a probable choice, though it is ever possible. Thus, it is within a time period that those of Ra mentioned to be between 100 and 700 of your years that is most likely to be the case for this discrete transformation. In the overall movement of time, as you know it, this is a large period of time. In the movement of time into the fourth density of 30 million years, it is but a few moments.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
We would call your attention to the difference between a yellow-ray activated vehicle, such as is the most common upon this planet at this time, and the dual-activated vehicle, which is of the nature of something of an anomaly because the stronger pull, shall we say, in such a dual activated body is still going to be back toward the third ray, that is the yellow-ray vehicle. We say this because it remains the case that the veiling continues to be in place between the mind, and the body, and the spirit, and it will be a mark of fourth density that this veiling is removed.<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
So the question is: Because the yellow-ray body is incompatible with the green-ray environment, does the final, full activation of the green-ray environment in space/time wait for the final yellow-ray body to move through what we call death?<br />
<br />
(Jim channeling)<br />
<br />
I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. This is, in general, a correct assumption. For even if the entire planetary population made that one fine, strong choice for positive polarity, there would at that time be the necessity for the dropping of the physical vehicle of third-density: the yellow-ray body. At that time, there would be the ascension of the indigo-ray body, the form-maker body, into the realms of light, and this time would be that in which the steps of light, or the strength of light, would gauge the ability of the entity to withstand the impact of the light in an harvestable degree. This, having been determined primarily by the choice of the entity to pursue positive polarity with every fiber of its being, shall we say, the moving into the light being the confirmation of this choice. That is the situation which would pertain in the possible choice of positive polarity by the entire population of your planet.<br />
<br />
If the choices are more gradual, the same basic situation would also obtain, in that the entities would move through the death process in a manner which would exemplify the normal death process. The entity—not being consciously aware of its harvestability due to the group choice towards positive polarity—would then move into the form-maker body upon its yellow-ray body’s death, and again, move into the light which would gauge the harvestability of the entity, according to the energy centers’ ability to stand the impact of the love and light.</blockquote>
<br />
So this planet is already a fourth-density entity and i will assume the meaning is, that this will enclose all the matter of the mineral world (this will be the entity of first density in respect to a similar differentiation by Rudolf Steiner).<br />
<br />
The channelings i know (like the above one) will treat mainly the question of what is happening with the entities of the third density - and this is of course an important question of our destiny.<br />
<br />
But what will happen with all the plants and animals of the second density?<br />
<br />
And what kind of entities are meant "that are working very diligently—both on the third-density level and upon the higher realms within the planetary entity itself"?<br />
(Maybe this questions can be adressed at Q'uo in future meditations, if it cannot be answered here?)<br />
<br />
<hr class="mycode_hr" />
<br />
Well - here are my feelings and thoughts today for discussion:<br />
<br />
My feelings say that the second density is already a part of the fourth-density too.<br />
<br />
My thoughts say that most of the plants and animals will not live long enough, that it makes an determining difference if they are already third or fourth density.<br />
But when the final movement into fourth density has come, what will happen to the second density?<br />
<br />
For the third density Q'uo has said that it would move through the death process.<br />
What will happen with the entities that "have both the third- and fourth-density bodies activated"?<br />
That's not really clear.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Corporate structures in 4D]]></title>
			<link>https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19303</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2021 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[That is interesting Jeremy, I hadn't thought of it like that....<br />
does Ra actually mention somewhere that in 4D there are no more bosses? How about industry, enterprises etc.<br />
Would there be only people working as equals? or would all of those corporate structures vanish.<br />
Appreciate your input <img src="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/smile2.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_61" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[That is interesting Jeremy, I hadn't thought of it like that....<br />
does Ra actually mention somewhere that in 4D there are no more bosses? How about industry, enterprises etc.<br />
Would there be only people working as equals? or would all of those corporate structures vanish.<br />
Appreciate your input <img src="https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/smile2.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_61" />]]></content:encoded>
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