<![CDATA[Bring4th - "In the Now" BlogTalkRadio Show Archive]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/ Thu, 30 Apr 2026 03:25:48 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Carla's Journey Home]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10675 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 14:55:54 +0000 IzAzIz]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10675 Dear sweet Carla,

All of this earthly existence I felt as a drifting wood in the sea of life without a port to call home….. Some would say that when you immigrate to another country you lose your footing, not being home where you had belonged, not belonging to the new land & foreign culture. I moved to the US when I was a teenager many moons ago. Yet I could not contribute my lack of belonging to being in a new country and a new culture, as I still remembered never having belonged to my own culture and country. Even during childhood years, never belonging to groups, clubs, or organizations of any sort……  

I always felt like a bystander, an invisible observer of life….. What has helped to anchor me was reading books…….as a child I found my answers in story books and as I grew older a variation of all sorts of other books brought me solace and hope in continuing my search for answers……
I had read through different philosophical, religious, psychological, spiritual schools of thought trying to find what felt the most true according to my inner compass…..……… all that I had studied previous to finding the Law of One was useful at the time and helped shine light on the dark path ahead, also they were breadcrumbs showing the road to follow……… They have helped to change and expand my perception, provide alternative perspectives that the collective point of view did not have for me. Yet nothing I had come across had felt a complete fit, vast enough to silence the doubt, to answer the question: “What about this or that discrepancy?”………
It wasn’t until I came across the L/L Research  and started reading the Law of One books, the wanderer’s Handbook, and Channeling articles that I felt for the first time I had come home……. Even though I had been searching since childhood and had read about other disciplines and spiritual paths, nothing had resonated to the extent that Law of One did for me. My gratitude knows no bound……. I cannot relay my heartfelt appreciation in any earthly language…. If I could write volumes of books expressing my feelings on what a difference your relentless and loving service has made in my life, it would be like only one star in the universe of infinite stars.......
Even the smallest act of service that affects one person has a ripple effect of unknown proportions in how that person may affects others because of it.

So my precious Carla, you have astronomically affected my life and countless others in magnificent ways…….. I love you and thank you and all the courageous souls who have helped you in your valiant effort to vastly increase the light and love in this corner of the universe in this space/time.
 
Love, Light and Joyous Blessing on Your Journey H Heart ome,
Manijeh]]> Dear sweet Carla,

All of this earthly existence I felt as a drifting wood in the sea of life without a port to call home….. Some would say that when you immigrate to another country you lose your footing, not being home where you had belonged, not belonging to the new land & foreign culture. I moved to the US when I was a teenager many moons ago. Yet I could not contribute my lack of belonging to being in a new country and a new culture, as I still remembered never having belonged to my own culture and country. Even during childhood years, never belonging to groups, clubs, or organizations of any sort……  

I always felt like a bystander, an invisible observer of life….. What has helped to anchor me was reading books…….as a child I found my answers in story books and as I grew older a variation of all sorts of other books brought me solace and hope in continuing my search for answers……
I had read through different philosophical, religious, psychological, spiritual schools of thought trying to find what felt the most true according to my inner compass…..……… all that I had studied previous to finding the Law of One was useful at the time and helped shine light on the dark path ahead, also they were breadcrumbs showing the road to follow……… They have helped to change and expand my perception, provide alternative perspectives that the collective point of view did not have for me. Yet nothing I had come across had felt a complete fit, vast enough to silence the doubt, to answer the question: “What about this or that discrepancy?”………
It wasn’t until I came across the L/L Research  and started reading the Law of One books, the wanderer’s Handbook, and Channeling articles that I felt for the first time I had come home……. Even though I had been searching since childhood and had read about other disciplines and spiritual paths, nothing had resonated to the extent that Law of One did for me. My gratitude knows no bound……. I cannot relay my heartfelt appreciation in any earthly language…. If I could write volumes of books expressing my feelings on what a difference your relentless and loving service has made in my life, it would be like only one star in the universe of infinite stars.......
Even the smallest act of service that affects one person has a ripple effect of unknown proportions in how that person may affects others because of it.

So my precious Carla, you have astronomically affected my life and countless others in magnificent ways…….. I love you and thank you and all the courageous souls who have helped you in your valiant effort to vastly increase the light and love in this corner of the universe in this space/time.
 
Love, Light and Joyous Blessing on Your Journey H Heart ome,
Manijeh]]> <![CDATA[What is is Oneness.]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=9293 Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:16:18 +0000 isis]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=9293 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...a-and-crew

13:00 - 35:35

Gary: Thank you, so much, Carla.

We shall move on to our first question...

It comes from isis via Bring4th. isis asks, "All is one, in potential? Or all is one - period. Or both? Or what?"

Carla: The answer is both, I think. All is one - period...that's in 6th density. We are still in potentiation in 3rd density being able to see it all as one. We are sitting here and making the choice - this is the density of choice. We still have to go through the density of love, and the density of light, before we hit 6th density - the density of unity. So, all is one in 6th density...all is one, in potential, in 3rd density...and all is one as we are able to see it...absolutely. Everybody else, have at it.

Unknown: (laughter)

Austin: Right, it's basically both but, especially here in 3rd density, we have to realize that it is mostly in potential. We can probably reach a state in meditation, or random moments, where the unity of the entire universe is revealed to us as an absolute truth, just through experience, but for almost everybody in our waking state throughout the day it's not something that is apparent and it's not obvious and as we go through our lives and do our work the idea of potential, I think, is really important. There's a couple of Ra quotes that I think were relevant to this in that it highlights the idea of potential and the role of potential in our lives and Don is basically asking about the definition of intelligent infinity and in the first quote Ra says, "There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy. The nature of this work is dependent upon the particular distortion of free will which in turn is the nature of a particular intelligent energy of kinetic focus of the potential of unity or that which is all." And so we are basically here, in 3rd density, to do work to get back to where 'all is one' is not just a potential...and to realize or do that, to get back to the creator, I think it's important for us to realize the difference between the potential and the kinetic as we're going through the kinetic and the complete unity all is one is the potential but we have to do the work to get there. (pause) Sorry, there was another Ra quote that might confuse things a little bit...

Carla: (laughs) I thought that was excellent, by the way.

Austin: Thank you...It's in the same session - just a couple questions later. They're trying to explain the same topic and at first it sounds a little bit contradictory but Ra goes on to explain. Ra says, "There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential *in relation* to intelligent energy. In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided, one use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other terms in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by focuses of energy, we call intelligent energy." So I think, in a lot of words, Ra is basically saying both; all is one in potential...and all is one - period.

Carla: Mhm.

Jim: It kind of leads to a paradox which might be a good thing. Ra said that paradox is one of the signs of being on the spiritual path. Before there was a creation, the only type of service possible: STS...and if you consider that each of us is learning something that helps the creator to know itself then the basic way the creator learns itself is through STS. However, in a manifested state - the positive polarity - the STO polarity, seems to be the one that produces the most knowledge of the creator and the STOs value; it's the path that which is, as Ra said, but for the negative path, the STS - the path that which is not, seems to separate by beholding that position...and that concept in the mind seems to separate us but when seen from the point-of-view of the creator STS is the way to learn.

Carla: Right, right...I think the way that the path of that which is not manages to separate out love is they just skip the green ray chakra. They skip over the heart and they go from the...I have trouble counting the rays - is it the 3rd ray? They skip from the 3rd ray, yellow ray, to - you know, that's (Jim: To the blue) that's relationships - straight to the blue...right to the intellect and so for a STS entity it's all in the head. It can never be in the heart because there is no heart except as a reality. I skipped the one that pumps and beats, you know, in the flesh. There's no heart. That's all considered, by the path that which is not, a false thing - an illusion that just spoils people, and brings them down, and limits them...and to them the path of that which is not is the path that is free. Well in the intellect, I suppose, it feels freer than the heart because the heart does offer limitations. The heart offers the limitation of 'I want to serve, I want to love' and so they have to look at everybody as somebody to serve, somebody as a soul, and the path of that which is not looks at other people as can be used or those which are thought.

Gary: Jim, did you have anything more to add?

Jim: Well, that paradox to me just gives me the comfort of knowing that all is well. So whatever happens in the manifested world, with the negative over positive and the positive struggling against the negative forces, that it's all teaching the creator and it's the creator learning about itself in the smaller version of ourselves as mind/body/spirit complexes and in the larger version of the wholeness of the creator who made all things. So...all is well, whatever it looks like.

Carla: And you're saying that, basically, if it's all of STS to the creator then it would necessarily be all of STS to it's created parts?

Jim: Right.

Carla: There's the paradox.

Jim: Yeah.

Gary: You guys are blowing my mind. It's interesting that all three of you addressed basically 'what is paradox' because that's the direction my own response is going to move into and apologies in advance because I didn't get sleep last night - so I had caffeine this morning... (Carla: Hahaha, you're flyin'.) Ooh yeah...since the meditation retreat I've only had it twice, & this being the second time, and I really should stay away from it - so I'm going to try to counter my intensity of energy and bring myself back down. So...This particular topic is my favorite, you could say. It's at the center of my own path and I think it's the central mystical question at the heart of the Law of One as well - that primal paradox between the many and one or separation and unity et cetera. So I have a lot to say about it and I would like to start my own response by focusing on the the twin categories of thought between What Is and What Is Not. Ra begins the contact with L/L group in question number 7 of session 1...they say, "In truth, there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You ARE every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You ARE unity. You ARE infinity. You ARE love/light, light/love. You ARE. This is the Law of One."

So we begin with the category of What Is. What is...is unity. What is...is infinity. What is...is oneness. Not what will eventually be, or what will potentially be, because "eventually" implies time...but rather what is eternally - right now. So no matter how real the separation seems, no matter what entity you are, no matter the density, or the location, or the particular layer of the dream, no matter even what octave you're experiencing, it is always infinity - it is always one - period; there is no other way. Not only is IT always infinity but YOU ARE, always, infinity. This, to me, is what the Law of One is ultimately all about...who and what you are.

Now, to the other category of What Is Not. According to my understanding, things are not in actuality separate; things are not, ultimately, finite; there is not, in reality, manyness - it only appears that way...It only seems that way. This is why the word 'illusion' is applied and alternately this is why the word 'distortion' is applied. So how does Ra address what is not? Firstly, recall the quote that I just read from Ra. Ra makes their first mention of what is not when they say "In truth, there is NO right or wrong. There is NO polarity" and then in session 4, question 20, Ra goes on to say, "Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is NO disharmony, NO imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect."

So we have pretty clear statements about "what is" and "what is not" but this is where it gets problematic, for the 3rd density seeker, because these two statements, of two categories - identifying what is and what it not - seem to represent two completely contradictory truths. They represent an absolute paradox to our mental comprehension and, as I understand these things, this paradox will not be resolved in our minds. Infinity transcends any possible category of thought that we can create. We can think as clearly and "accurately" as words and concepts will allow but it is only through going beyond identification with thought-forms, through the discipline of meditation, that the paradox is...understood...if I can use that word? It's only in the - (Carla: Grokked. The word is...) - grokked haha, way better word, thank you - it's only in the silence and the stillness of the present moment where exists an awareness - an awareness which simultaneously sees and embraces the paradox that you could describe thusly:

A.) No matter surface appearances, all things are infinite and one - right here and right now. This is it. You are looking at infinity. You are infinity...Not some other place, not some other time, not when you finish 8th density, but right now...This is infinity - you're experiencing it. and B.) There yet seems to be separation and manyness and distortion and imperfection...et cetera. There seems to be a future in which you will eventually become infinite. So these two seemingly opposite points of view are expressed when Ra says, in session 55 question 1, "The seeker seeks the One. The One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self" - And here's the key phrase - "aware, both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is." So, right there, Ra addresses both of those two present truths: apparent distortion yet total (chuckles) perfection...and this is where, I think, we need to be careful because some seekers hear that all is infinite and they think that they can - and this is what Austin was getting at when he was talking about the work that needs to be done - some seekers hear that "all is infinite" and they think they can negate or deny &/or ignore their own work, their own lessons, and their own energetic material...and illusory though separation may be...the illusion, the idea of separation, has power. It absolutely demands and requires that we move through a process. We do our work in consciousness and we walk our disciplined path, in order to get to the other shore as it were, in order to move through the gateway and merge into the infinite creator realizing that we (chuckles) are already realized - that there never was doubt, that there never was confusion, that there never was illusion, that there never was separation, that there never was a gate to walk through. One of my favorite short statements from Ramana Maharsi is he says "illusion itself is illusory" but we have to work through that illusion to get to that point to see, and to realize, that understanding...and I think i'll stop there...

Carla: I think you're absolutely right. However, I do think that there is a certain distance that a person has to go in the bumper car ride that life is - bouncing off of other people and what they have to say and to do to us, bouncing off of them with our reactions, boom boom boom. You watch people that are very dramatic in acting out and it's very quick, you know. A bumper car ride goes very quickly and everything bumps and there are other people that things don't tend to bump and they may be closer to realizing that all is one but they may still have a very keen perception of the bumper car ride. So I am at that place of having a nervous sympathy for people who are struggling with this, and all spiritual perception - for people who haven't found their feet completely, or altogether, and I just want to help, you know, and I have no idea how but I do see the pain involved the suffering involved, in the feeling of it being a bumper car ride, and there is a lack of suffering in the realization of unity and on the other hand it takes a while for most people to get there - so they will suffer. I guess the problem with suffering doesn't come into this, though, this is basically just an intellectual question: is all one - period? or is all one in potentiation? And you're saying, 'hey, look, the deeper truth and the truth that people see when they're with it is: all is one - forget the rest, it's just illusion.' how true? how true? how true? but how hard to grasp and how hard to make your own.

Gary: I think, according to my own study, one who has awakened to that truth doesn't turn a blind eye to those still within in the dream - those still dreaming the dream. Take the Buddha, for instance, if the story is accurate...under the bodhi tree, he becomes enlightened...moves through his temptations and upon awakening from the dream looks about himself and realizes that there's suffering everywhere - life is suffering - and everybody wants happiness but they don't know how to get it so he doesn't just enter a cave and bliss out and exist an infinite being, because all is one and there's no work to do, he instead orients his life to service and decides to speak to those still within the dream and tell them that, essentially, that they are dreaming. He teachings suffering, and the end to suffering, and doesn't develop a cosmology like the Law of One offers but gives a methodology for awakening from the dream and dedicates the remainder of his incarnation towards that end - so nothing, in my own thinking, implies indifference. I mean Ra says there are fundamental teachings of all planes of existence and they start by saying that all things are one and they say that in that unity lies love, in that unity lies light, in that unity lies joy, these are the fundamental teachings of all planes of existence so that realization of oneness necessarily contains, and includes, love. I mean that sort of entity, who understands that there is no separation, that heart chakra is fully alive and well and has empathy for those within in the dream but at the same time he sees - and this is the metaphor I got from Ramana Maharsi - that awakened entity sees that the suffering is an illusion, the pain is illusion; they're just images on a screen; the fire and the movie being projected onto the screen doesn't burn the screen. What is real, ultimately, can't be threatened, or hurt or impaired, et cetera; it's the images that are participating in the suffering. Again, this isn't a call not have empathy for those within the dream but to recognize the backdrop of infinity against which all that pain seems to be happening.

Carla: That satisfies me completely.

Austin: Just a couple thoughts that Gary brought to my head...you were talking about the idea of a potential unity only comes into play when we introduce the aspect of time, and time existing, and Ra actually says at one point there is past present and future in 3rd density, responding to a question from Don about past communication from the confederation where they said there is no past and no future, but Ra is pretty clearly saying that here in 3rd density, you know, we experience past present and future - obviously it's there. And the idea that...you said that the paradox will not be solved in our minds, and I actually read something last night that I really liked that is pretty relevant. It says, "The universe does not contain paradox. Paradox exists only as the result of limited minds attempting to comprehend an unlimited universe." I thought that was really fucking awesome.

Carla: Yeah, I like that.

Gary: Anybody have anything further to add to that question? (Nope) There was another damn Ra quote I really wanted to find...Our next question comes from Andrew B. via email...]]> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...a-and-crew

13:00 - 35:35

Gary: Thank you, so much, Carla.

We shall move on to our first question...

It comes from isis via Bring4th. isis asks, "All is one, in potential? Or all is one - period. Or both? Or what?"

Carla: The answer is both, I think. All is one - period...that's in 6th density. We are still in potentiation in 3rd density being able to see it all as one. We are sitting here and making the choice - this is the density of choice. We still have to go through the density of love, and the density of light, before we hit 6th density - the density of unity. So, all is one in 6th density...all is one, in potential, in 3rd density...and all is one as we are able to see it...absolutely. Everybody else, have at it.

Unknown: (laughter)

Austin: Right, it's basically both but, especially here in 3rd density, we have to realize that it is mostly in potential. We can probably reach a state in meditation, or random moments, where the unity of the entire universe is revealed to us as an absolute truth, just through experience, but for almost everybody in our waking state throughout the day it's not something that is apparent and it's not obvious and as we go through our lives and do our work the idea of potential, I think, is really important. There's a couple of Ra quotes that I think were relevant to this in that it highlights the idea of potential and the role of potential in our lives and Don is basically asking about the definition of intelligent infinity and in the first quote Ra says, "There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy. The nature of this work is dependent upon the particular distortion of free will which in turn is the nature of a particular intelligent energy of kinetic focus of the potential of unity or that which is all." And so we are basically here, in 3rd density, to do work to get back to where 'all is one' is not just a potential...and to realize or do that, to get back to the creator, I think it's important for us to realize the difference between the potential and the kinetic as we're going through the kinetic and the complete unity all is one is the potential but we have to do the work to get there. (pause) Sorry, there was another Ra quote that might confuse things a little bit...

Carla: (laughs) I thought that was excellent, by the way.

Austin: Thank you...It's in the same session - just a couple questions later. They're trying to explain the same topic and at first it sounds a little bit contradictory but Ra goes on to explain. Ra says, "There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential *in relation* to intelligent energy. In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided, one use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other terms in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by focuses of energy, we call intelligent energy." So I think, in a lot of words, Ra is basically saying both; all is one in potential...and all is one - period.

Carla: Mhm.

Jim: It kind of leads to a paradox which might be a good thing. Ra said that paradox is one of the signs of being on the spiritual path. Before there was a creation, the only type of service possible: STS...and if you consider that each of us is learning something that helps the creator to know itself then the basic way the creator learns itself is through STS. However, in a manifested state - the positive polarity - the STO polarity, seems to be the one that produces the most knowledge of the creator and the STOs value; it's the path that which is, as Ra said, but for the negative path, the STS - the path that which is not, seems to separate by beholding that position...and that concept in the mind seems to separate us but when seen from the point-of-view of the creator STS is the way to learn.

Carla: Right, right...I think the way that the path of that which is not manages to separate out love is they just skip the green ray chakra. They skip over the heart and they go from the...I have trouble counting the rays - is it the 3rd ray? They skip from the 3rd ray, yellow ray, to - you know, that's (Jim: To the blue) that's relationships - straight to the blue...right to the intellect and so for a STS entity it's all in the head. It can never be in the heart because there is no heart except as a reality. I skipped the one that pumps and beats, you know, in the flesh. There's no heart. That's all considered, by the path that which is not, a false thing - an illusion that just spoils people, and brings them down, and limits them...and to them the path of that which is not is the path that is free. Well in the intellect, I suppose, it feels freer than the heart because the heart does offer limitations. The heart offers the limitation of 'I want to serve, I want to love' and so they have to look at everybody as somebody to serve, somebody as a soul, and the path of that which is not looks at other people as can be used or those which are thought.

Gary: Jim, did you have anything more to add?

Jim: Well, that paradox to me just gives me the comfort of knowing that all is well. So whatever happens in the manifested world, with the negative over positive and the positive struggling against the negative forces, that it's all teaching the creator and it's the creator learning about itself in the smaller version of ourselves as mind/body/spirit complexes and in the larger version of the wholeness of the creator who made all things. So...all is well, whatever it looks like.

Carla: And you're saying that, basically, if it's all of STS to the creator then it would necessarily be all of STS to it's created parts?

Jim: Right.

Carla: There's the paradox.

Jim: Yeah.

Gary: You guys are blowing my mind. It's interesting that all three of you addressed basically 'what is paradox' because that's the direction my own response is going to move into and apologies in advance because I didn't get sleep last night - so I had caffeine this morning... (Carla: Hahaha, you're flyin'.) Ooh yeah...since the meditation retreat I've only had it twice, & this being the second time, and I really should stay away from it - so I'm going to try to counter my intensity of energy and bring myself back down. So...This particular topic is my favorite, you could say. It's at the center of my own path and I think it's the central mystical question at the heart of the Law of One as well - that primal paradox between the many and one or separation and unity et cetera. So I have a lot to say about it and I would like to start my own response by focusing on the the twin categories of thought between What Is and What Is Not. Ra begins the contact with L/L group in question number 7 of session 1...they say, "In truth, there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You ARE every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You ARE unity. You ARE infinity. You ARE love/light, light/love. You ARE. This is the Law of One."

So we begin with the category of What Is. What is...is unity. What is...is infinity. What is...is oneness. Not what will eventually be, or what will potentially be, because "eventually" implies time...but rather what is eternally - right now. So no matter how real the separation seems, no matter what entity you are, no matter the density, or the location, or the particular layer of the dream, no matter even what octave you're experiencing, it is always infinity - it is always one - period; there is no other way. Not only is IT always infinity but YOU ARE, always, infinity. This, to me, is what the Law of One is ultimately all about...who and what you are.

Now, to the other category of What Is Not. According to my understanding, things are not in actuality separate; things are not, ultimately, finite; there is not, in reality, manyness - it only appears that way...It only seems that way. This is why the word 'illusion' is applied and alternately this is why the word 'distortion' is applied. So how does Ra address what is not? Firstly, recall the quote that I just read from Ra. Ra makes their first mention of what is not when they say "In truth, there is NO right or wrong. There is NO polarity" and then in session 4, question 20, Ra goes on to say, "Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is NO disharmony, NO imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect."

So we have pretty clear statements about "what is" and "what is not" but this is where it gets problematic, for the 3rd density seeker, because these two statements, of two categories - identifying what is and what it not - seem to represent two completely contradictory truths. They represent an absolute paradox to our mental comprehension and, as I understand these things, this paradox will not be resolved in our minds. Infinity transcends any possible category of thought that we can create. We can think as clearly and "accurately" as words and concepts will allow but it is only through going beyond identification with thought-forms, through the discipline of meditation, that the paradox is...understood...if I can use that word? It's only in the - (Carla: Grokked. The word is...) - grokked haha, way better word, thank you - it's only in the silence and the stillness of the present moment where exists an awareness - an awareness which simultaneously sees and embraces the paradox that you could describe thusly:

A.) No matter surface appearances, all things are infinite and one - right here and right now. This is it. You are looking at infinity. You are infinity...Not some other place, not some other time, not when you finish 8th density, but right now...This is infinity - you're experiencing it. and B.) There yet seems to be separation and manyness and distortion and imperfection...et cetera. There seems to be a future in which you will eventually become infinite. So these two seemingly opposite points of view are expressed when Ra says, in session 55 question 1, "The seeker seeks the One. The One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self" - And here's the key phrase - "aware, both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is." So, right there, Ra addresses both of those two present truths: apparent distortion yet total (chuckles) perfection...and this is where, I think, we need to be careful because some seekers hear that all is infinite and they think that they can - and this is what Austin was getting at when he was talking about the work that needs to be done - some seekers hear that "all is infinite" and they think they can negate or deny &/or ignore their own work, their own lessons, and their own energetic material...and illusory though separation may be...the illusion, the idea of separation, has power. It absolutely demands and requires that we move through a process. We do our work in consciousness and we walk our disciplined path, in order to get to the other shore as it were, in order to move through the gateway and merge into the infinite creator realizing that we (chuckles) are already realized - that there never was doubt, that there never was confusion, that there never was illusion, that there never was separation, that there never was a gate to walk through. One of my favorite short statements from Ramana Maharsi is he says "illusion itself is illusory" but we have to work through that illusion to get to that point to see, and to realize, that understanding...and I think i'll stop there...

Carla: I think you're absolutely right. However, I do think that there is a certain distance that a person has to go in the bumper car ride that life is - bouncing off of other people and what they have to say and to do to us, bouncing off of them with our reactions, boom boom boom. You watch people that are very dramatic in acting out and it's very quick, you know. A bumper car ride goes very quickly and everything bumps and there are other people that things don't tend to bump and they may be closer to realizing that all is one but they may still have a very keen perception of the bumper car ride. So I am at that place of having a nervous sympathy for people who are struggling with this, and all spiritual perception - for people who haven't found their feet completely, or altogether, and I just want to help, you know, and I have no idea how but I do see the pain involved the suffering involved, in the feeling of it being a bumper car ride, and there is a lack of suffering in the realization of unity and on the other hand it takes a while for most people to get there - so they will suffer. I guess the problem with suffering doesn't come into this, though, this is basically just an intellectual question: is all one - period? or is all one in potentiation? And you're saying, 'hey, look, the deeper truth and the truth that people see when they're with it is: all is one - forget the rest, it's just illusion.' how true? how true? how true? but how hard to grasp and how hard to make your own.

Gary: I think, according to my own study, one who has awakened to that truth doesn't turn a blind eye to those still within in the dream - those still dreaming the dream. Take the Buddha, for instance, if the story is accurate...under the bodhi tree, he becomes enlightened...moves through his temptations and upon awakening from the dream looks about himself and realizes that there's suffering everywhere - life is suffering - and everybody wants happiness but they don't know how to get it so he doesn't just enter a cave and bliss out and exist an infinite being, because all is one and there's no work to do, he instead orients his life to service and decides to speak to those still within the dream and tell them that, essentially, that they are dreaming. He teachings suffering, and the end to suffering, and doesn't develop a cosmology like the Law of One offers but gives a methodology for awakening from the dream and dedicates the remainder of his incarnation towards that end - so nothing, in my own thinking, implies indifference. I mean Ra says there are fundamental teachings of all planes of existence and they start by saying that all things are one and they say that in that unity lies love, in that unity lies light, in that unity lies joy, these are the fundamental teachings of all planes of existence so that realization of oneness necessarily contains, and includes, love. I mean that sort of entity, who understands that there is no separation, that heart chakra is fully alive and well and has empathy for those within in the dream but at the same time he sees - and this is the metaphor I got from Ramana Maharsi - that awakened entity sees that the suffering is an illusion, the pain is illusion; they're just images on a screen; the fire and the movie being projected onto the screen doesn't burn the screen. What is real, ultimately, can't be threatened, or hurt or impaired, et cetera; it's the images that are participating in the suffering. Again, this isn't a call not have empathy for those within the dream but to recognize the backdrop of infinity against which all that pain seems to be happening.

Carla: That satisfies me completely.

Austin: Just a couple thoughts that Gary brought to my head...you were talking about the idea of a potential unity only comes into play when we introduce the aspect of time, and time existing, and Ra actually says at one point there is past present and future in 3rd density, responding to a question from Don about past communication from the confederation where they said there is no past and no future, but Ra is pretty clearly saying that here in 3rd density, you know, we experience past present and future - obviously it's there. And the idea that...you said that the paradox will not be solved in our minds, and I actually read something last night that I really liked that is pretty relevant. It says, "The universe does not contain paradox. Paradox exists only as the result of limited minds attempting to comprehend an unlimited universe." I thought that was really fucking awesome.

Carla: Yeah, I like that.

Gary: Anybody have anything further to add to that question? (Nope) There was another damn Ra quote I really wanted to find...Our next question comes from Andrew B. via email...]]> <![CDATA[Submitting Questions to "In the Now – Q&A with Carla and Crew"]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=8214 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:34:56 +0000 Bring4th_Austin]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=8214
Every Tuesday at 1:00 pm eastern, L/L Research goes live on air to discuss questions sent in from seekers. Gary and I trade off hosting and reading questions for Carla and the L/L crew to address.

You can tune into each broadcast by accessing the show's webpage (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch) on BlogTalkRadio at the scheduled start time each Tuesday and listening over your computer, or by calling the phone number below. When you access the show's webpage in the link above, click the "Play/Chat Now" button to begin the show. Each show will also be freely available in archive form for streaming and download on the show's webpage.

To ask us questions during the broadcast, using your cell phone or landline, dial 1-646-595-2294. You will be able to hear the show but will be on mute.

If you would like to be unmuted so that you can ask us a question live on-air, press the "1" key on your phone at any time. This sends a signal to the hosts. When there is an opening, we will unmute you and address you by area code so that you know you have been unmuted.


When the show is not being broadcast, you can submit your questions in one of two ways:

1) You can reply to this post and submit your question to this thread. We will collect them before each show and ask them in the order that they are received.

2) You can send us a question via email at contact(at)llresearch(dot)org. You can specify if you prefer to remain anonymous.

When submitting questions, please remember that this is a Law of One “Q and A”. Try to keep your questions as spiritually oriented as possible. In general, the responses will be spiritually oriented in nature, often utilizing information taken from the channeled material L/L Research has produced over the last 35+ years.]]>
Every Tuesday at 1:00 pm eastern, L/L Research goes live on air to discuss questions sent in from seekers. Gary and I trade off hosting and reading questions for Carla and the L/L crew to address.

You can tune into each broadcast by accessing the show's webpage (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch) on BlogTalkRadio at the scheduled start time each Tuesday and listening over your computer, or by calling the phone number below. When you access the show's webpage in the link above, click the "Play/Chat Now" button to begin the show. Each show will also be freely available in archive form for streaming and download on the show's webpage.

To ask us questions during the broadcast, using your cell phone or landline, dial 1-646-595-2294. You will be able to hear the show but will be on mute.

If you would like to be unmuted so that you can ask us a question live on-air, press the "1" key on your phone at any time. This sends a signal to the hosts. When there is an opening, we will unmute you and address you by area code so that you know you have been unmuted.


When the show is not being broadcast, you can submit your questions in one of two ways:

1) You can reply to this post and submit your question to this thread. We will collect them before each show and ask them in the order that they are received.

2) You can send us a question via email at contact(at)llresearch(dot)org. You can specify if you prefer to remain anonymous.

When submitting questions, please remember that this is a Law of One “Q and A”. Try to keep your questions as spiritually oriented as possible. In general, the responses will be spiritually oriented in nature, often utilizing information taken from the channeled material L/L Research has produced over the last 35+ years.]]> <![CDATA[Index of Radio Shows ("In The Now" - September 2010 to August 2013)]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7530 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 11:23:58 +0000 Plenum]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7530 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch

Monica is the host.

below, I've linked directly to the mp3s, plus the show notes if they exist.

I will keep this index updated as new shows come in each week.

lemme know if there are any broken links.

Cheers, plenum

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September, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

October, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

November, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

December, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

January, 2011
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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February, 2011
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January, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...-to-qa.mp3

Feburary, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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March, 2012
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April, 2012
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May, 2012
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June, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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July, 2012
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August, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

September, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

October, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

November, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

December, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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January, 2013
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February, 2013
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March, 2013
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April, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

June, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...ccarty.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

July, 2013
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August, 2013
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- -]]> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch

Monica is the host.

below, I've linked directly to the mp3s, plus the show notes if they exist.

I will keep this index updated as new shows come in each week.

lemme know if there are any broken links.

Cheers, plenum

- - * *


September, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

October, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

November, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

December, 2010
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

January, 2011
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

February, 2011
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

January, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...-to-qa.mp3

Feburary, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

March, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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April, 2012
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May, 2012
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June, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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July, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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August, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

September, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3

October, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
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November, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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December, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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January, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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February, 2013
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March, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

April, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

June, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...ccarty.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes

July, 2013
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August, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...eckert.mp3 show notes
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- -]]> <![CDATA[Question on Discernment]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7509 Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:29:34 +0000 Sinead91]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7509
Over the last few days, after brief discussion with Carla, I have been pondering methods of discernment. I like to think that I am quite logical, but open minded enough to trust where trust seems due. (often driven my a gut feeling).

I generally agree with the notion that if a piece of text instills fear within - it is most likely of negative origin, and if somethings makes you feel enlightened, maybe it's something you should bear in mind.

That rule cannot singularly apply however, as there are certain 'new agers' playing on that notion, and deceiving your true emotions, by perhaps - simply telling you whatever it is you want to hear - including 'false enlightenment'.

Taking *those* instances aside however, there are two aspects of these notions that I don't quite understand, and I am having trouble processing these thoughts... I hope that some one here can advise and guide me on this...

There is certain channeled material that I have studied in depth - it is extremely extensive. I shall skip the details of the information, however, this particular text instilled fear in *many* people.

However, I, and few others, thoroughly enjoyed gaining the information, and although the information did seem to present an almost hopeless destiny for human kind - it constantly reminded us that, the information it was presenting was the actual reality of what we as humans are experiencing.

The Information was extremely negative (but all true). However, the information also advised on how we could change these circumstances.

I don't want to ramble, so my paradox is - If something presents negativity, in the hopes of shocking us into action, and this particular text has instilled honest fear in many people - is it truly a negative communication?

When a minority - such as my self - can see the logic in showing us our negative experiences, with a view to pushing us towards it's positive counterpart?

Or should I be worried that it so obviously scares so many other people?

Can a positive communication also openly know that it scares many people and continue it's mission?]]>
Over the last few days, after brief discussion with Carla, I have been pondering methods of discernment. I like to think that I am quite logical, but open minded enough to trust where trust seems due. (often driven my a gut feeling).

I generally agree with the notion that if a piece of text instills fear within - it is most likely of negative origin, and if somethings makes you feel enlightened, maybe it's something you should bear in mind.

That rule cannot singularly apply however, as there are certain 'new agers' playing on that notion, and deceiving your true emotions, by perhaps - simply telling you whatever it is you want to hear - including 'false enlightenment'.

Taking *those* instances aside however, there are two aspects of these notions that I don't quite understand, and I am having trouble processing these thoughts... I hope that some one here can advise and guide me on this...

There is certain channeled material that I have studied in depth - it is extremely extensive. I shall skip the details of the information, however, this particular text instilled fear in *many* people.

However, I, and few others, thoroughly enjoyed gaining the information, and although the information did seem to present an almost hopeless destiny for human kind - it constantly reminded us that, the information it was presenting was the actual reality of what we as humans are experiencing.

The Information was extremely negative (but all true). However, the information also advised on how we could change these circumstances.

I don't want to ramble, so my paradox is - If something presents negativity, in the hopes of shocking us into action, and this particular text has instilled honest fear in many people - is it truly a negative communication?

When a minority - such as my self - can see the logic in showing us our negative experiences, with a view to pushing us towards it's positive counterpart?

Or should I be worried that it so obviously scares so many other people?

Can a positive communication also openly know that it scares many people and continue it's mission?]]> <![CDATA[Don Elckins - On Spectra]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7445 Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:09:10 +0000 Sinead91]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7445
I'm am an avid reader of The Law of One, and to this day find my self pondering some of questions left unaswered by Ra.

I was hoping you could tell me please who Don thought Spectra of "The Nine" was.

Quote:The only other thing is that I have noticed that within the material as it exists now there is a certain statement which will allow him to understand who I believe Spectra really was.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=P...a+Puharich

If you are permitted to comment of course.]]>
I'm am an avid reader of The Law of One, and to this day find my self pondering some of questions left unaswered by Ra.

I was hoping you could tell me please who Don thought Spectra of "The Nine" was.

Quote:The only other thing is that I have noticed that within the material as it exists now there is a certain statement which will allow him to understand who I believe Spectra really was.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=P...a+Puharich

If you are permitted to comment of course.]]> <![CDATA[ARCHETYPES SPECIAL SHOW!]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7404 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:19:04 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7404 The long awaited...

We will be discussing the Archetypes (as depicted in the Tarot) on the radio show Friday June 14! This may span several shows. Carla and Jim will systematically make their way through the Archetypes!

Feel free to post any questions on this topic! Better yet, call in live and join the discussion!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch]]> The long awaited...

We will be discussing the Archetypes (as depicted in the Tarot) on the radio show Friday June 14! This may span several shows. Carla and Jim will systematically make their way through the Archetypes!

Feel free to post any questions on this topic! Better yet, call in live and join the discussion!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch]]> <![CDATA[Resuming Radio Show; Need Questions]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7286 Tue, 28 May 2013 03:05:59 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7286 here.]]> here.]]> <![CDATA[2 More Shows - Need Questions!]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6953 Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:48:54 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6953 <![CDATA[Monica's amazing thankyou]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6724 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:34:40 +0000 Anchor]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6724 (link) from the blog talk radio when just as Carla was talking about healing her inner child and the Raggedy Anne doll: At around 32m08s Monica said this and it was so profound I wanted to transcribe it and post it because its just so good and so right on.

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Carla, I need to tell you something.

I’m speaking to the little girl Carla at various ages and all the little Carlas all throughout your life and the adult Carla and all the various adult Carlas throughout your entire life, this is going to a thousand different personalities at different points in time:-

Carla, you did a fantastic job, and I am speaking from the heart and I am speaking on behalf of probably thousands and thousands of people who have benefited from the work that you did and the phenomenal work that came forth because of your willingness to be of service.

You did a phenomenally, awesome, fantastic, fabulous, perfect, beautiful job - in being who you are and being in service and channeling, not only channeling the Law of One, the highest spiritual teaching in the land – that alone, my God, your life has had a profound impact on thousands and thousands of people, that alone has been huge; but not only that, but the service that you have continued to give since then and are doing right now, right this very minute, even with all the physical issues you are dealing with – to do this service, to do this radio show and to offer yourself yet again – that is just huge. I mean, anybody else, after channeling the Law of One, they could just go and retire, I mean you could have done that and that would have been fine.

I’m gonna tell you right now, on behalf of all these people, we love you and we thank you because you have done something so beautiful and you have given us something that we treasure and its because of you, yes Jim and Don as well thank you for your contribution - but right now, I’m directing this at you Carla, and you are beautiful, and you did great and the things you did as a child must have been wonderful too because it brought you to who you are today – so thank you, you did great.

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Monica, I am so glad you did that. Yes Carla, its all true. Monica was speaking for many and I certainly would add my name to that list.

The effect on me when I heard it was interesting. I felt I could sense the energy exchange of love across time and space, and inside I am cheering - YAY MONICA - WELL SAID, so very well said. Happy and tears at the same time.

Thanks Monica for saying what needed to be said, and when it needed saying.

My apologies to all those on a train into Sydney central this morning, who witnessed some odd looking guy with iPod scrabbling around in his rucksack for tissues, while splashing some huge tears on the floor.]]> (link) from the blog talk radio when just as Carla was talking about healing her inner child and the Raggedy Anne doll: At around 32m08s Monica said this and it was so profound I wanted to transcribe it and post it because its just so good and so right on.

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Carla, I need to tell you something.

I’m speaking to the little girl Carla at various ages and all the little Carlas all throughout your life and the adult Carla and all the various adult Carlas throughout your entire life, this is going to a thousand different personalities at different points in time:-

Carla, you did a fantastic job, and I am speaking from the heart and I am speaking on behalf of probably thousands and thousands of people who have benefited from the work that you did and the phenomenal work that came forth because of your willingness to be of service.

You did a phenomenally, awesome, fantastic, fabulous, perfect, beautiful job - in being who you are and being in service and channeling, not only channeling the Law of One, the highest spiritual teaching in the land – that alone, my God, your life has had a profound impact on thousands and thousands of people, that alone has been huge; but not only that, but the service that you have continued to give since then and are doing right now, right this very minute, even with all the physical issues you are dealing with – to do this service, to do this radio show and to offer yourself yet again – that is just huge. I mean, anybody else, after channeling the Law of One, they could just go and retire, I mean you could have done that and that would have been fine.

I’m gonna tell you right now, on behalf of all these people, we love you and we thank you because you have done something so beautiful and you have given us something that we treasure and its because of you, yes Jim and Don as well thank you for your contribution - but right now, I’m directing this at you Carla, and you are beautiful, and you did great and the things you did as a child must have been wonderful too because it brought you to who you are today – so thank you, you did great.

--

Monica, I am so glad you did that. Yes Carla, its all true. Monica was speaking for many and I certainly would add my name to that list.

The effect on me when I heard it was interesting. I felt I could sense the energy exchange of love across time and space, and inside I am cheering - YAY MONICA - WELL SAID, so very well said. Happy and tears at the same time.

Thanks Monica for saying what needed to be said, and when it needed saying.

My apologies to all those on a train into Sydney central this morning, who witnessed some odd looking guy with iPod scrabbling around in his rucksack for tissues, while splashing some huge tears on the floor.]]> <![CDATA[What's of interest to seekers currently?]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6682 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:45:42 +0000 Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6682
Blessings of this sunny Sabbath afternoon -

I was thinkng of generating some articles comparing books of current interest with the Law of One material.The idea is to create a Journal, offered maybe two or four times a year, in which such articles would live, by me among others. This way, if a new seeker were surfing, looking for more about something of current interest, he or she would perhaps find out about the Law of One as well.

So, in your opinion, what are the most currently interesting books or topics? L[/size][/font]et me know. I'd really appreciate your opinion!

Thanks guys! I love you.

HeartHeart

L/L xxx]]>
Blessings of this sunny Sabbath afternoon -

I was thinkng of generating some articles comparing books of current interest with the Law of One material.The idea is to create a Journal, offered maybe two or four times a year, in which such articles would live, by me among others. This way, if a new seeker were surfing, looking for more about something of current interest, he or she would perhaps find out about the Law of One as well.

So, in your opinion, what are the most currently interesting books or topics? L[/size][/font]et me know. I'd really appreciate your opinion!

Thanks guys! I love you.

HeartHeart

L/L xxx]]> <![CDATA[Radio Show IS on Fri Feb 22 NEED QUESTIONS]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6643 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:17:25 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6643
But, we have no questions! Would anyone like to submit some questions or discussion topics? Carla may be out for awhile once she does have her surgery, so now's your chance!]]>
But, we have no questions! Would anyone like to submit some questions or discussion topics? Carla may be out for awhile once she does have her surgery, so now's your chance!]]> <![CDATA[No Radio Show Tonight]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6596 Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:00:39 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6596 <![CDATA[Suggestions for L/L Research? Request from Carla & Jim]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6560 Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:59:34 +0000 Monica]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6560 <![CDATA[Why only until 2012?]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6512 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:04:23 +0000 jws1970]]> https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6512