Taking control of a forum

[Adonai One]

Probably the fastest way to 'flush' important or sensitive posts into obscurity would be to make a bunch of senseless comments on other peoples threads and just bump the message not meant to be seen.

Why was it not meant to be seen?

It leaks information that some may not want others to know.

[reeay]

Yeah that's the meaning I understood. So why discuss something that is private in a public forum?

[Ellai]

You know... this kind of things is very 3D thinking; all people are bad. All people are witholding information. When you think like this.. you keep it this way because you send it out in energy. Start thinking differently: and you will send out a different kind of energy. Seeking stuff that are being misled or any other theory about the government or any other thing is just keeping the energy there: you are manifesting it. Soooo I would suggest: let it go. Let all the theories just go and concentrate on what you really want in this world instead of what you dont want.
The focus is too much on the negative, keep it on the positive. If you do: you create positive instead of more negative.

[Ashim]

You know... this kind of things is very 3D thinking; all people are bad. All people are witholding information. When you think like this.. you keep it this way because you send it out in energy. Start thinking differently: and you will send out a different kind of energy. Seeking stuff that are being misled or any other theory about the government or any other thing is just keeping the energy there: you are manifesting it. Soooo I would suggest: let it go. Let all the theories just go and concentrate on what you really want in this world instead of what you dont want.
The focus is too much on the negative, keep it on the positive. If you do: you create positive instead of more negative.

Totally flawed logic Ellai.
So by ignoring all the apparant 'bad' things in the world they will just go away?
Sounds far too simplistic to me.
By exposing (bringing light to) the crimes against humanity there is then awareness. This awareness empowers the people.
By simply not recognizing the darker aspects of society(and self) one is trying to become 'whiter than white'.
Anyway who says that we want to polarize towards the positive?
This certainly is not my intention in this incarnation.
Try to tell someone who is seriously depressed to just 'focus on the positive'. If all society thought like this it would be even easier for the negative elite to enslave the world.
Your deepest fears are caused by your own supression of negative wisdom.
This is exactly the method of control used to keep the masses unaware and enslaved.
Look at religion for example. There are certain places that 'good christians' are not supposed to go to.
Ellai, no one mentioned that 'all people are bad'.
This came from you alone and may reveal more about yourself than you think.

[Ellai]

You have a point Ashim.

[Parsons]

I disagree strongly, Ashim. 'Our thoughts create our reality' is a concept that is very basic to the LOO or other similar teachings. Your argument seems to entirely ignore that.

Conversely, I do agree it doesn't help if you try to ignore something if you become aware of it, even peripherally. I simply acknowledge something when I become aware of it and fully digest it, then move on. I don't think about it anymore unless it comes up again externally. As Ellai said, you give your energy to it if you continue to focus your attention on it and it just feeds the negative paradigm you seek to end. I'm not saying just try to ignore it entirely as that doesn't really work; I'm saying actively seeking out new manipulation constantly feeds into the negative elite's manipulation.

I like the way Ellai said it: "Let all the theories just go and concentrate on what you really want in this world instead of what you dont want."

[xise]

Ashim, accept those negatively polarizing. After doing so, you can call others to action, or even take action yourself from a place of balance.

Calling for action, or taking action prior to the acceptance of duality leads to a more winding path, my friend.

[Ashim]

I disagree strongly, Ashim. 'Our thoughts create our reality' is a concept that is very basic to the LOO or other similar teachings. Your argument seems to entirely ignore that.

Conversely, I do agree it doesn't help if you try to ignore something if you become aware of it, even peripherally. I simply acknowledge something when I become aware of it and fully digest it, then move on. I don't think about it anymore unless it comes up again externally. As Ellai said, you give your energy to it if you continue to focus your attention on it and it just feeds the negative paradigm you seek to end. I'm not saying just try to ignore it entirely as that doesn't really work; I'm saying actively seeking out new manipulation constantly feeds into the negative elite's manipulation.

I like the way Ellai said it: "Let all the theories just go and concentrate on what you really want in this world instead of what you dont want."

Going by what you say I feel that you have mis understood Ra and the LOO.
YCYOR contains at most a half-truth.
In a deity based (as opposed to ego based) reality we are individuations.
The Creator was the one who did this 'splitting' not us.
Your argument implies that we create our own individual realities in a vacuum, without interaction by other selves.
The higher self observes and directs the 'play' to the extent of co-creating situations where desired catalst may be provided but does not create reality.
Your final statement about adding to the negative elites manipulation by seeking out manipulation makes no sense whatsoever.
You would obviously prefer me to quit rooting out areas of manipulation and just return to the golf course. I can tell you who would profit from that. I'm also sure that the folks who decided 'last minute' not to go to denver are glad the someone is doing this work.

@xise
I understand what you are getting at but I don't think that you fully understand my viewpoint or intentions.
The polarity flipping mid 6th density is caused by realization on behalf of the entity making this reconfiguration.
Realization comes from entertaining new patterns of mind through introduction to 'new' information or as you put it 'calling to action'.

This is a great article on exactly this subject. I suggest you both read it.

'Why you don't create your own reality' by Michael Topper
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienci...pper06.htm

[Parsons]

Actually, it's both. We have our own personal, inner worlds in a so called 'vacuum', and also a collectively created "consensus reality" here on Earth. The beliefs of many create societal realities that could be changed if everyone involved are both aware of a specific issue such as the manipulation of the elite AND that we create our own reality.

[turtledude23]

I have a friend who is closely associated with the democratic party and its well known in political circles that it has been standard practice to pay people to.post anonymously in forums but especially the comments section of news articles in order to spin public opinion. Apparently its not even considered secret or a big deal, but rather standard practice.

I've heard from knowledgeable sources that here in Canada the Conservative Party gets their young staff to post alot of comments on news website articles. Presumably the other parties here and in other countries do that too. But news websites are different from forums, especially the type of forums which the Cryptome article probably has in mind (e.g. us, conspiracy theory forums, Edgar Cayce related stuff, etc.). I think that the only people who would want to purposely poison the well, derail, distract, etc. on these kinds of forums would be people in secret societies fighting for control of everything because they're probably afraid of anything close to the truth getting out, even if its to a small group of people.

Other than the occasional troll or closed minded preacher I don't think there's anyone malicious on this forum, for now. If LOO gets popular enough this forum might become a target and we and the moderators should be prepared for it, it would be a shame to have such a great forum corrupted.

[Ashim]

I have a friend who is closely associated with the democratic party and its well known in political circles that it has been standard practice to pay people to.post anonymously in forums but especially the comments section of news articles in order to spin public opinion. Apparently its not even considered secret or a big deal, but rather standard practice.

I've heard from knowledgeable sources that here in Canada the Conservative Party gets their young staff to post alot of comments on news website articles. Presumably the other parties here and in other countries do that too. But news websites are different from forums, especially the type of forums which the Cryptome article probably has in mind (e.g. us, conspiracy theory forums, Edgar Cayce related stuff, etc.). I think that the only people who would want to purposely poison the well, derail, distract, etc. on these kinds of forums would be people in secret societies fighting for control of everything because they're probably afraid of anything close to the truth getting out, even if its to a small group of people.

Other than the occasional troll or closed minded preacher I don't think there's anyone malicious on this forum, for now. If LOO gets popular enough this forum might become a target and we and the moderators should be prepared for it, it would be a shame to have such a great forum corrupted.

There have been quite a few occasions on this Forum where attempts have been made to prevent certain Information from reaching a wider audience. This however I do not see as being malicious in any way. It's a Service provided, nothing more. You are right in that often these folks are members of secret societies.
The warning system contains key words that trigger the alarm.
There are procedures that are to be followed - if you find someone concentrating on grammar etc then you can be sure that they are really struggling to debunk - that has been my experience.

Accounts are set up in advance in order to be used in this fashion - often one user will control several accounts behind proxies using his/her alters.
After some experience you can tell almost straight away who is doing what and with what Agenda.
Again, there is nothing 'wrong' with this because it requires us to become certain of our presumed Facts. By seeding doubt in the mind one is challenged to look with even more care at ones own beliefs.