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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters What I have come to further understand from the past 12 hours...

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    Shin'Ar

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    #31
    09-03-2012, 07:59 PM
    (09-03-2012, 07:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I meditate, but often just fall asleep.


    What do you meditate on?

    Meditation is not meant to free one's mind of thought completely.

    You need to enter into a frame of mind with a particular intent in order to achieve an actual meditative state.

    It sound more like you are simply going into a coma.



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    #32
    09-03-2012, 08:03 PM
    (05-17-2012, 10:24 AM)Patrick Wrote: We are the Creator distorted, trying to balance out these distortions resulting in us becoming the One Infinite Creator once more (undistorted).

    And if we are wanderers, then ultimately we are less distorted than 3D natives. Unless, by coming into 3D as wanderers, we completely took on 3D distortions. Becoming fully 3D, it may take eons to get back into our home density. I know Ra speaks differently, but I've heard it said also in some Quo channelings that we don't automatically go back to home density.

    Home density is my goal, much more than becoming Creator undistorted once again. Because of the veil, I cannot fully appreciate what being Creator is like, or what that entails. I don't have a burning urge to reunite with the All That Is, and lose my identity. I've nearly lost my identity in the past, during certain experiences where Ra took me through exercises that shook my mind. I felt my distortions. They rocked my world.

    I am by no means desiring to rush the process. But I do desire to move onto at least 4D. Hopefully 6D. I want to become light again. I feel that's where I was. It could be just wishful thinking. Who knows, any one of us could be from beyond the octave. A spark of Creator coming in, with a pure light. I don't feel angelic by any means. But I am what I am. And I am glad to be here now. Doing the work I am doing. Beaming the light like a lighthouse, or like a Pulsar to put it in more astronomical terms. Maybe energetically I am bright and flashy. I don't know. But I feel like each day I begin to understand love ever more subtly.

    If I could suddenly become Creator again, I'd choose not to, because I'd miss all this experience that I can provide Creator. I am helping Creator to experience itself. That in itself is a noble goal, and process. But I feel that I'd be more effective in higher density. I gave up almost too much to be here. I can, without my meds, barely keep my sanity.
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    #33
    09-03-2012, 09:16 PM
    Yes Q'uo mentioned that we fully become creatures of Third Density as 3d wanderers. We take our share of the planetary karma too. This is why so many wanderers are here now to lighten the load of humanity to help with the harvest.

    Anything else we do to help is just a bonus. Smile Our great sacrifice is already accomplished just by coming here.

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    #34
    09-03-2012, 09:25 PM
    Even with the sacrifice, it's good to remember that we're here by seniority of vibration. There are many who did not get the chance to incarnate. We fought hard to be here.

    I hadn't realized that we take on planetary karma. It's a good thing that we have so many wanderers, else it would be too much to bear.

    I guess if the planetary karma keeps graduates in 4D, instead of being able to return to home density right away, it'll be alright. A few thousand years in 4D, or maybe a few million years of incarnating in 4D will still be better than 3D.

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    09-03-2012, 09:28 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2012, 09:29 PM by Patrick.)
    You can release all your karma, including the part you took to help humans, simply by forgiving everything and everyone (including the Elites of course).
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    09-03-2012, 09:30 PM
    If I have consciously forgiven everything and everyone, are there any unconscious things I may not have forgiven?
    I don't want to be stuck in karma beyond my control.
    I can safely say there's nothing in my conscious awareness I haven't forgiven.

    There are things I can learn to accept however.

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    09-03-2012, 09:35 PM
    When you start accepting and forgiving all that you are conscious of, you reach a point where all karma is released. Simply because this tool is not needed any longer by you. And yes, this would mean that you do not need to reincarnate in 3d. But keep in mind that if you are a wanderer, there was no need to incarnate in 3d to begin with, you simply chose to, for multiple reasons.
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    09-03-2012, 09:51 PM
    Thank you for that reminder about a wanderer not needing to reincarnate in 3D. I had felt that due to karma, a wanderer after becoming 3D was stuck in a 25,000 year cycle. But it's by choice, not by being force to outside of one's own self.
    Going through a major cycle is indeed a sacrifice. Thanks again for that realization.

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    09-03-2012, 10:17 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2012, 10:18 PM by Patrick.)
    (09-03-2012, 09:51 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thank you for that reminder about a wanderer not needing to reincarnate in 3D. I had felt that due to karma, a wanderer after becoming 3D was stuck in a 25,000 year cycle. But it's by choice, not by being force to outside of one's own self.
    Going through a major cycle is indeed a sacrifice. Thanks again for that realization.

    Some wanderers chose to serve for a full cycle. But this grand 3d cycle being over, all wanderers will either go back to their home vibration or chose to help here on the new 4d Earth.

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    09-03-2012, 10:36 PM
    (09-03-2012, 10:17 PM)Patrick Wrote: Some wanderers chose to serve for a full cycle. But this grand 3d cycle being over, all wanderers will either go back to their home vibration or chose to help here on the new 4d Earth.
    I don't think staying on earth in 4D is an option for a wanderer.

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    09-04-2012, 08:43 AM
    (09-03-2012, 10:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (09-03-2012, 10:17 PM)Patrick Wrote: Some wanderers chose to serve for a full cycle. But this grand 3d cycle being over, all wanderers will either go back to their home vibration or chose to help here on the new 4d Earth.

    I don't think staying on earth in 4D is an option for a wanderer.

    Why is that ?

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    09-04-2012, 08:57 AM (This post was last modified: 09-04-2012, 10:14 AM by Vasistha.)
    (09-04-2012, 08:43 AM)Patrick Wrote:
    (09-03-2012, 10:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (09-03-2012, 10:17 PM)Patrick Wrote: Some wanderers chose to serve for a full cycle. But this grand 3d cycle being over, all wanderers will either go back to their home vibration or chose to help here on the new 4d Earth.

    I don't think staying on earth in 4D is an option for a wanderer.

    Why is that ?

    Wanderers are here to help transition, so logically they have no business for a beginning cycle, especially a 4th density one. Ra mentions that 4D entities at the beginning of their cycle need to be left alone. The veil is not present either in 4D, so a wanderer could infringe way too much.

    Quote:43.26 Questioner: Then will there be at that time any fifth-density and/or sixth-density beings on the surface of the planet?

    Ra: I am Ra. Not for a fairly long measure of your time as fourth-density beings need to spend their learn/teaching space/time with their own density’s entities.

    Wanderers are interested to polarize or to get a certain balance quickly, which is why 3D is chosen where catalyst are very intense. In 4D (and highers densities) catalysts are rather slow... There are no interest for a wanderer to go to 4D if the wanderer home is 5D or 6D.

    Wanderers from 4D and those that have already made harvest but only here for transition are the only one I could see continue on this planet in 4D. The others have no business here.
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    #43
    09-04-2012, 09:03 AM
    That make sense. Smile

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    09-04-2012, 11:07 AM
    Thanks Vasistha for clearing that up. I could imagine if I were a wanderer from 6D, I'd want to help the 4D as much as possible, and that would be infringement on their own learning. So I'd have to return to home density. Or rather, I'd want to return. Still, we'll be able to watch over 4D, and those that repeat 3D. I can barely imagine the vantage point from which we will observe the lower densities.

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