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    Thread: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love


    Pablísimo (Offline)

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    05-13-2010, 04:41 PM
    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: I would also like to add my .02 and some possible solutions.

    Pablisimo, it's funny... I could have written your original message VERBATIM! I have also grown up with a fear of the Greys. No other alien type bothers me, except for them.

    Steve, from the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU for taking time to post your story and the advice. I have honestly never met or heard of anyone with the same issue I have about the Greys. You quite obviously truly understand my problem!!

    I can't believe it, I am blown away that someone else has (had) almost a mirror image of my struggle. I really felt like I was the only person on the planet with this condition. Especially since I have zero fear of any other kind of imaginable alien, so it's not just a general "alien phobia". It's HIGHLY specific.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: In the past, if I walked past Wesley Streiber's book "Communion" and saw the grey on the cover, I would break out in a sweat, my heart would race, and I would lapse into a fearful "fight or flight" moment, much like you've experienced at the lake.

    Yes, this same book has haunted me for years!!! I know exactly what you mean. Just seeing the cover of "Communion" causes exactly the same adrenal reaction in me. It's gotten me in bookstores, at school, and at several friends' houses. I began to wonder just how many copies could possibly be floating around and why they always seem to find me. I can't handle that picture at all. Just the sight of the cover scares the daylights out of me and it takes me at least an hour to fully recover.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: I have always avoided movies depicting greys, and have decided no to watch Encounters of the Third Kind, because I know there is an alien scene there that seems rather "skeevy". I was taken by surprise when I saw the aliens in Raiders of the Lost Ark:Crystal Skull, and in Spielberg's A.I.: Artificial Intelligence. Those did not go over well with me! I would even get nervous seeing the simple little two-color graphic of an alien head with the almond eyes. You know which one I mean, I'm sure!

    Exactly the same, again. I intentionally avoid those movies. Part of me really wanted to see Encounters of the Third Kind, but I never did because I knew I just couldn't take it. As for the other movies, my best friend warned me about those scenes and I haven't watched them, either as a direct result of not wanting to see their images. Even those stupid sticker graphics you are talking about make me nervous, too. It's amazing how how many times I run into those simple graphic images, and even they freak me out, despite not having the definition like you have with the cover of "Communion".

    I am interested in ETs, exopolitics, and LOO and related material, and a surprising number of websites on these things have a Grey image in random places on them. It's really tough because I have this panic reaction when I run across one of those images. This has been a major struggle for me.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Like you, I have no recollection of any abductions, nor do I believe in my heart that I have been (at least in this lifetime). I know that as a kid, I was never abused, and my sister also does not recall anything unusual from our childhood. I do believe, however, that it is entirely possible I was "messed with" against my will, in a past incarnation, and that the highly charged emotional experience bled over into this life as unresolved trauma or some sort of karma that I decided to "parlay" for my next life to resolve.

    Hmm, now this is an interesting possibility, that there could have been some violation from a past life that bled into this one due to being unresolved. I mean, I had this intense fear of them as a small child! I did suffer some "normal" (as opposed to paranormal) type traumas as a child, but I swear it's always felt totally distinct to me. I have been pondering the idea that the Grey terror is some kind of transference lately since Monica suggested it and it had never occurred to me. It certainly seems plausible, but try as I might at an intuitive level it just doesn't seem related.

    I had never considered a possible past life karma playing out this time around. Nor had I given thought to it being astral rather than physical. Basically, in my quest to understand this problem, I have almost convinced myself that there IS no rational basis for the fear and that I'm just being nutty for no good reason. But after reading your post... I don't know, perhaps there IS something astral to this.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: But in your original post, the one thing I noticed you didn't talk about are your dreams. Why is that? Have you had any dreams with greys?

    Well... I'm not sure why I didn't mention it, but yes, I have periodic dreams with Greys. Truth be told, they are the only nightmares I ever have. My wife has told me she's heard me yelling at them to get out of my mind on a couple of rare occasions while I was dead asleep, but I don't really remember "talking" to them.

    Your story about the one tormenting you sent a chill down my spine, because it's very similar to how they "harass" me in the dream. They stare at me, really close up, and sort of "drain" something out of me mentally. It's just staring, but something about it is so terrifying. It's always that close up stare that wakes me up from the dream. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't have dreams about them all the time. Just occasionally, and they're never positive.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: First, perhaps I can relate this one quick story... There was a point that I got heavily into tarot cards, runes and crystals, and I would experiment with them without knowing how important it is to protect oneself with divine light. One day I was playing with the cards and the crystals at the same time, intending to draw upon the knowledge of the cards. Again, I was doing this powerful exercise without protection, which was a HUGE mistake. While I was unwittingly jumping into the rabbit hole, I suddenly felt "attacked" by an incredibly strong force field. It was like reality was instantly ripped from me and slammed back into my face, disorienting me for a moment. Without any conscious thought, my body immediately shot up from sitting Indian style and bolted out the back door and wrapped itself around a tree. I say "it" did it, because I would have NEVER hugged a tree. I am just not that type of person.

    OK, just so I'm clear, do you think this experience is what caused your fear of the Greys? That is, did you have fear of them prior to this incident? I'm wondering if perhaps the negative attack used an image your mind already found frightening or if this is actually what caused the phobia in your case. Try as I might, I can't point to any one experience or incident that "caused" my own phobia.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: From there it got worse. Every night I went to bed from that day on, I suffered a negative greeting in my mind from a negative grey who had red glowing nostrils. It would be present in my mind as if it were face to face with me, but there was nothing there when I opened my eyes. And as I tried to go to sleep, it would just keep itself staring at me up close, no matter what I tried to think about. It was really quite disturbing!!!

    Except for the glowing nostrils, this is basically exactly what happens to me periodically. It's not sustained night after night, but occasionally it just happens and pretty much exactly the way you described. How eerie that you would be able to describe the "greeting"/dream/whatever that I periodically experience with such accuracy.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Thankfully, I knew some intuitive lightworkers who dealt with energy and dreams. This one helpful woman confirmed the next day that I had some negative attachments to my energy body, and agreed to sever the bonds the next time I went to bed.

    That night, I dreamt of that woman who helped me, which to me validated that she had entered into the astral and performed a sort of Shamanic type of exercise to cut the bonds. Would you believe, from that night onward, I never had another "face-to-face" encounter with that negative being again!

    [take note: this was an energetic bond that was resolved in the dream state]

    Hmmm.....Interesting. So this woman helped you IN the dream state, this was not some kind of ceremony in the physical that severed the bond.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Now. That didn't stop me from totally fearing these guys! Even though the woman had helped me out, I still lived life very much afraid of greys. It took many more years of reading about them and avoiding any visual exposure before I came across some material on cutting negative cords again.

    When I followed the advice of the article, which I will share with you now, I soon had a transforming dream, and from that point on (as of 2009), I am no longer afraid of greys (for the most part)! In fact, I can look at all grey-related web sites now, I can pass Streiber's book and give attention to the grey that once made me freak out. Yes, my heart still jumped a beat when David threw up a Grey without warning on his Event Horizon video, but it wasn't nearly enough to send me to the hills like it would have a few years ago.

    Oh my, I wish I could get to that point! That sounds so much better than the state I am currently in. I am going to try your suggestion. I have to admit to you, that it scares me a little. The idea of intentionally causing a dream with a Grey in it is terrifying. I am going to have to work up to it over a few days of contemplation. But I want to try.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: With all respect, I see what people are offering as advice on here, and there certainly are some great suggestions. But if you are anything like me (since we seem to have had seemingly mirrored experiences) I know most of the recommendations wouldn't do anything for me.

    Well, I've been trying out some of the ones I got in the thread, but it seems too early to tell. I know I managed to scare myself silly with my first attempts at desensitization that Josh suggested. I have tried to desensitize myself using pictures in the past, but that didn't work. So now I'm trying the mental imagery scale of 1 to 100 thing, but not going well so far. I'm also trying to process the ideas from Monica & Lavazza and the others but I've only been at it a day.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Why? Because I strongly believe the problem that we both have exists in a different plane; it's not something that we can solve here in 3rd density. After all, if it could be solved in 3rd density, why wouldn't it have been already? We both tried sending love in meditation, we both have worked on releasing the fears in our own ways. So why didn't it work?

    So you believe this is an ASTRAL issue and that is why all of these 3D attempts to tackle it are not working! That makes sense to me on a very deep level. I guess I wasn't allowing myself to see that the fear had any validity, but viewing it as an astral problem changes the dynamic considerably.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: You and I are not afraid of any other alien types, so what's the big deal if an alien is a little green martian from Mars, or one that is in the shape of a grey? To someone who is not afraid of greys, there would be no difference to them. An alien is an alien. Yet to you and me, it's like comparing black to white. Sure, they are both colors, but at completely opposite ends.

    I just wanted to say that I have said variations of those sentences to myself for years. I know exactly how you feel!

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: So what I'm getting at is that I strongly believe you can get over it the way I did. The way you do it is to sit in meditation and ask your Higher Self to please help you work out your fear "in the dream state". This is critical! Because now you are putting energy towards resolving this in the astral, where the source of this energy is coming from.

    I'm going to try this. I really am. I'm a little scared to try because it will lead to more dreams, but if this worked for you as much as it did... and since your experience was positive, well I want to be free of the fear bad enough that I will try it. Thank you, truly, thank you for sharing this suggestion with me.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: After casually doing that mental exercise for about a month, I had an epic dream.

    I was at my childhood house, and I was looking at what appeared to be a Weber grill. The ones that look like a circular, domed grill, right? Well, in my dream the grill "morphed" into a full sized UFO with green triangles around its equator. I started to get nervous in my dream, and I had the "knowing" that it was going to turn into an encounter, but I could not do anything about it.

    Well, the next thing I know, there was a female grey in the dining room of the house. And around me were a bunch of friends who all grabbed a part of me, as if to restrain me. The grey then extended her tongue into my nose and up into my mind! I know this sounds crazy, but that was the symbolism in the dream. It was warm and comfortable, and the grey was giving off a very loving vibration. I did not feel for one second that it was a hostile encounter. Well, no sooner did her tongue finish extending across the room and then retracting, she came over to me and said, "Touch my skin." And basically I obliged to touch her awkward skin, which I remember feeling the bones underneath. It wasn't exactly pleasant of a sensation, but that thought was quickly overpowered by loving vibes.

    I wonder what the symbolism of the tongue meant. This dream sounds terrifying at first, with being held down and the tongue... but you say you felt love and positivity? That is, you weren't panicking in the dream? This was a loving, positive being that was emanating goodness?

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: When I woke up that morning, I instantly knew that I was visited in the astral by a positive grey. And I am 100% convinced she did it as a way to take away my fear that plagued me for much of my 20s and early 30s. Ever since that happened, I have been completely fine with the greys, Pablisimo!

    Oh wow!! How incredible. So some STO Grey being heard your call and visited you astrally. And just that one dream was what turned this around for you? Incredible!! And beautiful, in a way.

    (05-13-2010, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: So as far as my advice, it seems that if you can get the situation to be resolved through intention and the dream state, that you can get the matter worked out to the point that you can deal with it on a day to day basis.

    It's not 100%... I mentioned that I still get an extra heartbeat and that "fret" feeling, although it is a lot more mild and tolerable than it used to be.

    I hope my experience can help you consider the approach!

    Thank you again, Steve, for this advice. I am certainly grateful for the suggestions and insight that the others gave me, it was heartfelt and helpful. However, given that you seem to have had the exact same problem as me and found some kind of peace and resolution, your advice on the matter really means a lot to me. It's just incredible that so much fear could be resolved so readily in the astral realm. I will start that dialogue with my Higher Self on resolving this problem in the dream state. I may be fearful about it, but if this problem indeed DOES have an astral origin, then this may be my only real shot at dealing with it.

    I also am heartened by the fact that you had an interaction with what you deem a POSITIVE Grey. All my thoughts are so negative about them, but just like people and other ETs, it makes perfect sense that different groups would be of different polarity.

    Thank you, brother, for sharing your experiences down this bumpy road and for your suggestion on healing it. I will let you know how this turns out, understanding it may take some time using the affirmations and appealing to my Higher Self, but I will report back.

    Thanks again

    Love to all!

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    Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Pablísimo - 05-11-2010, 11:27 AM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by JoshC - 05-11-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Lavazza - 05-11-2010, 04:30 PM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Monica - 05-11-2010, 08:15 PM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Pablísimo - 05-12-2010, 01:29 PM
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    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Bring4th_Steve - 05-13-2010, 02:21 AM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Pablísimo - 05-13-2010, 04:41 PM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Bring4th_Steve - 05-14-2010, 12:09 AM
    RE: Help Transmuting Fear of Grey Aliens Into Love - by Pablísimo - 05-15-2010, 06:29 PM
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