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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Free will infringement questions

    Thread: Free will infringement questions


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    07-16-2016, 09:22 PM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2016, 07:26 AM by spero.)
    though the higher negative densities may respect free will in order to advance, the lower densities seem to advocate the abridging of free will. My theory on why this is acceptable on a karmic/cosmic level is the negative entities are in turn abridged and subjugated to 4d and 5d sts entities.

    e.g. 4d sts

    Quote:The attempts of the so-called Crusaders to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. However, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation. Thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine was set up, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the Orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. Meanwhile, the third-density group is not hindered from free choice

    3d sts

    Quote:Upon the other hand, the negative polarization is one which does not accept the concept of the free will of other-selves. Thusly in a social complex whose negativity approaches purity the pull upon other-selves is constant. A positively oriented entity in such a situation would desire for other-selves to have their free will and thusly would find itself removed from its ability to exercise its own free will, for the free will of negatively oriented entities is bent upon conquest.

    its also quite easy to infringe on free will within 3d and i offer the below excerpt as a sample/guide

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0314.aspx


    Quote:Among your peoples, free will is a prime mover; on a spiritual level, absolutely. On the level of the physical, mental and emotional, there is no absolute, for you are each other’s neighbors and friends. You do have the right to offer your opinion to each other when asked. You have the right to influence each other when you are using your power in ways that are appropriate, within the bounds of your relationships and that which has been requested of you. You do not have to be as concerned as we in the normal run of your life and in your interactions with those in your environment. It is acceptable and within the bounds of free will to express your opinion when asked, and even to discuss that opinion again when it is asked of you.

    There are many ways in which free will needs to be abridged within your third-density environment. When you have a child, that child must have his free will abridged many times. He must follow the rules of the family and learn the limitations of his power. It is not an infringement upon free will, in the sense of there being any karmic damage, to keep a child from harming himself on a hot stove, walking off the side of a porch, or otherwise hurting himself.
    As parents and teachers train their charges and show them and explain to them how to be good people, these seeming infringements upon free will are appropriate and needed. When one is asked to be a mentor or teacher, it is not only acceptable but also desirable for you to express yourself to the very best of your ability, for guidance has been requested.

    And when you are asked questions, whether of a physical, emotional or spiritual nature, it is entirely appropriate to offer your opinion, again using your own sense of rightness and goodness to shape your replies.
    However, it is indeed possible within third density for people to infringe upon each others’ free will in ways that do involve karma. Take for instance the institution that you call marriage. A marriage of equal partners may involve many spirited discussions, but if one of the mates reserves the right to give orders to the other, there has been an infringement upon the free will of that individual whose liberties have been limited without his or her consent.

    In a work situation it is entirely acceptable for the leader to give orders to the employee as long as they do not shame him or abase him or disrespect him as a human being. When one entity uses a weapon to coerce or force another to do his bidding, whether it is in criminal acts or acts of war, this, too, goes beyond the bounds of acceptable usage and constitutes an infringement upon the free will of the one who is limited.

    There is no question but that in all of those three circumstances and more there is much infringement upon free will among your people. To those who feel that there is a question as to whether they are acting appropriately or whether they are moving beyond the bounds of acceptable influence and infringing upon another’s free will, we might suggest that, in your mind, you turn the tables and see the situation as happening the opposite way, not from you to another but from another to you. If, in that turnaround, you see the goodness of your actions, you are most likely behaving appropriately and maintaining unity between yourself and the other self. If, when you turn the tables, you realize you would resent such a thing were it to happen to you, then you know that you have infringed upon the rights, the peace, and the liberty of another.

    All this said, knowing that its all too easy for other's to infringe on your free will, how then should you engage with the situation. my interpretation is those on the positive path arnt any safer than your run of the mill individual from experiencing infringement or dealing with difficult individuals and catalyst. what they do have is the ability to perceive the catalyst offered as a challenge or opportunity to refine their choice to serve and keep their heart open.

    Quote:95.24 ...
    The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

    However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

     

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    Free will infringement questions - by anon_guy24526 - 07-13-2016, 04:21 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by Minyatur - 07-13-2016, 04:41 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by anon_guy24526 - 07-13-2016, 04:56 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by ada - 07-13-2016, 05:21 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by Minyatur - 07-13-2016, 08:00 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by anon_guy24526 - 07-16-2016, 06:06 AM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by Minyatur - 07-16-2016, 11:38 AM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by APeacefulWarrior - 07-16-2016, 02:27 PM
    RE: Free will infringement questions - by spero - 07-16-2016, 09:22 PM

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