In regards to eating meat

[Shemaya]

I am finding reading this particular thread catalyzing, ie. invoking frustration and anger in me because I understand that unless you are completely off the grid and not participating in modern day society, you are supporting an oppressive societal system in some way. So as awakened beings, we are all basically cognitively dissonant on some level because we are living here in 3D.

But at any rate, it's not going to convince anyone to "change their ways" of conditioned and cultural food choices by implying that they are "less" than yourself in any way (weak-willed, jealous,cognitively dissonant)

I hope my last few statements cleared up the 'weak-willed' thing. No one is implying anyone else is anything. We're discussing this academically. If someone feels defensive while a reading philosophical discussion that isn't directed at them personally, then that's a great illustration of the very thing we're talking about!

I didn't feel defensive, and feeling offended is a normal reaction. It's not the philosophy or academic info that offends but words such as "weak-willed", and jealous" sound accusatory. The implication is basically denigration of people who eat meat in general, not me personally, but I happen to eat meat.

Well that's just it...people aren't thinking about it. That's the whole point. Why aren't they thinking about it? Isn't that the whole point of waking up? to be aware of what we're doing here?

They may have a bunch of other things that they are choosing to focus their will and intent on. What do you feed your pets?

I am just saying that I find reading this thread not helpful at all in convincing me that I should not eat meat.

1. Have you read the whole thread?

2. Why are your reading this thread?

I have read alot of this thread, not all, probably need a few hours. It's not the academic information offered that most affects me when reading the thread, but the interaction in the discussion. In light of Bring4th guidelines, I find that there does seem to be an undercurrent of disrespect in the thread for the choice of eating meat. And it bothered me so I spoke up. It seemed worthwhile to address what I was feeling openly on the forum.

The cognitive dissonance not only goes both ways, but is very deeply embedded in the matrix.

Not sure what you mean here.

I am saying that anyone who is awakening and continuing to support and give energy to anything that oppresses any being in this consensus reality, is having a level of cognitive dissonance happening. Unless there is a complete withdrawal from the system as it is, we are participating in oppression of another being. So whether you make animals, or child-labor in third world countries, or abortion your "cause", on another level you are being cognitively dissonant about something unless you completely withdraw from society as it is. As you said there is only so much one can do. So if we are all cognitively dissonant, why accuse one another , why not just be humble.