In regards to eating meat

[Patrick]

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On 2nd thought, I guess I did expect something when I first started participating in this thread. I expected that most of the meat-eaters who are spiritually oriented just weren't aware of the atrocious conditions farm animals are subjected to, and I expected that once their eyes were opened, we'd be spending the rest of this discussion brainstorming ways to all work together to decrease animal suffering. I expected that they'd all shows concern and compassion, rather than arguing why they should still have the 'right' to continue supporting the cruelty.

Yeah, that's what I expected.

Boy was I wrong! That's what I get for having expectations!

We are reaching the outer teachings here.

Expecting other selves to behave the way you want and to believe what you believe lacks acceptance. You could achieve it with control of other selves, but that's probably not what you want.

So what options are you left with?

- Accepting this external situation.

- Changing this external situation.

You chose "Changing this external situation". They only way I am aware of to change external situations (without control) is to change the self. You already did that.

What more can you do that would not involve control?

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Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this.

On the other hand, however, you are correct in your assumption that the green ray response is not as refined as that which has been imbued with wisdom. This wisdom enables the entity to appreciate its contributions to the planetary consciousness by the quality of its being without regard to activity or behavior which expects results upon visible planes.

This is what I choose. This is what I do. This is hard to understand for people who concentrate all their efforts toward compassion.

Incidentally, has any activism ever been shown to actually help promote their cause in the collective? By this I mean getting actual results in what the cause is about.

EDIT:
I guess this answers my question.

http://www.bmartin.cc/pubs/07Anderson.html

Activism has played a major role in ending slavery, challenging dictatorships, protecting workers from exploitation, protecting the environment, promoting equality for women, opposing racism, and many other important issues. Activism can also be used for aims such as attacking minorities or promoting war.

This made me laugh pretty hard when I got home and read it.

Yeah, I wonder how it was done without using control? I'm missing something here.

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"Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. " -Ra

"Those of us which had the gift of polarity felt deep compassion for those who seemed to dwell in darkness...." -Ra

Lets see, the key is acceptance?

But the polarity itself is compassion.

Not at all, polarity is not compassion. Where did you get that impression ?