Icke's new Lizard rant

[Shin'Ar]

I think it is important at this point of the conversation to reconsider our definitions of the possible extraterrestrial influences and resulting genetic mutations.

It is clear that ancients records point to some sort of otherworldly influence in our history. But can we really make precise definitions about what such influences might have looked using vague references such as 'reptilian-like'. Remember that these are the same records in which we find people referring to these beings as gods wielding extraordinary powers.

What the original influences actually looked like might not have appeared anything like what we today would describe as reptilian. It could be the only reason that the ancient people described them as such was because they had a second eyelid or a very thin tongue.

All we really know for sure is that somewhere around 50 thousand years ago, primitive human suddenly became civilized and in miraculous timeframe a new world was born. And in those records references are made to extraterrestrial influences.

At one time the human might have been evolving from a lower form, but whatever that was is long gone now. We are the result of of advanced evolution gone awry. It is highly likely that there exists bloodlines that are more inherently related to the original mutations, and possibly applying higher intelligence. Which has enabled them to be the elite amongst us which they use to their advantage. But reptiles? Not in the sense that they are reptilian in the ways that we are imagining it, but in the sense that we all are carrying similar genes and their's are purer.

That is the flesh however. The consciousness is a different matter altogether. regardless of the physical strains of mutated inherited genetics, the evolving consciousness continues as it always has using many forms and vehicles during its long journey. The consciousness cares not whether the vehicle has pure bloodlines or mixed.

Choices and decisions are also not of the flesh, but consciousness. Regardless of what one has in their bloodline, it will be temporary and fleeting. It is the path they choose to walk that develops their ever evolving consciousness and creates the true identity beneath the skin; scaly or not.

I don't really agree with your interpretation of some of these concepts, but much of this discussion is wild speculation based on scant evidence.

I'll just posit a few ideas related to all this.

First, I don't buy into the idea of Darwinian evolution at all. I see life forms adapting to their environment and subtle changes in genetic structure due to mutation, radiation, poisoning; but I don't see one species becoming another. The real meaning of evolution is the development of individual consciousness, more accurately described as spiritual evolution. A soul incarnates through the various lower forms of life, learning the lessons of second density and then through human third density.

Second, I would say that the vehicle in which the soul resides does indeed have a significant effect on the consciousness of that being. I feel that this will hold true until that being transcends everyday consciousness and begins the upward journey as the soul slowly breaks free from its conditioning and all other limitations.

It seems most likely to me that life does not spring forth spontaneously from base elements but is 'seeded' upon planets. There is the further idea (popularized, as I recall, by Blavatsky) that creation begins in the higher, spiritual regions and emanates to the lower densities. I don't pretend to fully understand this process but the basic idea sounds right.

And finally, I would say that we really know very little about the true history of humanity on Earth. To be sure, there are lots of clues and things but it's all quite sketchy. I do believe the illuminati have vast archives of pilfered records and documents and writings and tablets which may well explain much of our past. Think of the vatican archives, for example - what wonders may we find among those dusty tomes...?

And lets not forget our 'ancestors' the Atlanteans and the Lemurians...how do they fit into the story and were they also hybridized by marauding spacemen? We've much to learn - but the historical record thus far shows a heavy reptilian influence of a primarily negative bent. There are good reptilians here also who disagree with the manipulation but as Ra has said, positive entities are prohibited from interfering with free will so will not come out openly to our aid.

It's a fascinating subject, and Icke is a fascinating guy. He's intelligent and likable and is a marvelous speaker, keeping his audience rapt for an eight hour presentation. Not many could pull that off. The main thing, however, is the information - the ABC's of the enslavement of humanity. Icke is fairly unique among conspiracy researchers because he has a fair grasp of the spiritual dimensions of existence and exhorts us to free ourselves from the false matrix/paradigm through a realization of the Infinite One. You won't hear Alex Jones speak like that - Jones, of course, comes from a Christian/Patriot point of view, but hey, to each his own....

I am not sure where you find that we are in disagreement Indolering.

I tend to agree with most of what you have pointed out in this post.

I did not make any claim to adhering to Darwinian evolution theory, but I do think that species evolve simply through generational experience and adaptation.