07-16-2012, 11:35 AM
Hi NitEternal,
First I'd like to thank you for posting this message, and also WELCOME to Bring4th! You are correct, I did indeed understand your perspective and story. It has obvious parallels to mine, and I am grateful you decided to share with me.
You know, whatever the topic, but especially one so painful, I find it really is a comfort to know that there are others out there who know what it's like -- who struggle or have struggled with the same issues that we are going through. I was originally apprehensive about posting on the topic, but received great comfort and inspiration when Steve shared his own story and successful outcome.
In fact, it was this thread that propelled me to finally do something about the problem. This is a relatively old thread -- and it's wonderful and amazing how much can change in a couple of years. Today, I do not react with terror to those images any longer. I do feel a slight sense of unease, but certainly no visceral reaction of fear. I very rarely think upon them any longer and they do not intrude in my dreams or meditations.
In my experience, things are not usually black and white. There may be different kinds of Greys who operate upon different frequencies and within different polarities. Some may be ETs, others demons or cyborgs. Perhaps some are quite positive, and some perhaps negative, but I really don't know. My overall feeling is that at least some of them are negative and I will act with great caution (but not fear) if I ever encounter one. The explanation of what they are and how they work that has resonated the most with me (that I have found to date) is in the work of John L. Lash (neo-Gnostic & Deep ecologist) in his discussion of Archons. They are described as inorganic beings that that have a neonatal, or fetal form that primarily operate using illusion, distortion, and suggestion in ancient Gnostic texts recovered at Nag Hammadi. However, I have no way to verify this understand either. Ultimately, I decided that what they are is more of an intellectual curiosiy than a practicle concern. So, I decided to just go with my intuition and try to tackle the fear without holding on to the need to FULLY understand who and what they are.
In my case, especially after reading Steve's replies, I had a strong suspicion that my problem was astral in nature. So, when a friend put me in touch with a person who specializes in removing negative astral attachments, I jumped at the opportunity. I had about an hour long phone call with her where she removed several negative entities of indeterminate type and led them into the Light. After that day, I had an immediate and dramatic reduction in my fear of these images. It's certainly possible that it was psychosomatic. Perhaps it was a placebo-effect, or maybe there really were negative attachments. I don't know nor do I really care. I'm just happy about the amazing improvement!
In the months that followed, I still had some fear when I'd see a Grey image or walk by an open window at night. However, whenever I would have these feelings, I would say a little affirmation I made for myself. Basically, I started asserting my Divinely-given right to live in joy and happiness, unmolested by those beings who had not yet chosen the light. Something along the lings of "I am a sovereign being who has chosen the Positive Path. I wish you no ill-will, but I reject your Service. I do not offer my fear for you to feed upon. May you be blessed and loved but go in peace. I am protected by the Source of all, the Infinite Creator, and Mother Gaia herself -- this space is sacred and by my free will I choose to only allow positive beings and influence into my space. Go in peace, friend, but go!"
As silly as it may sound, repeating those words or similar whenever a fearful thought about them would occur, or when I would see an image, worked wonderfully well! Over time, I didn't even need to say it any longer. I had come out the other side!
Today, I never dream about them or react fearfully. I do suspect that whatever they are, they are negative, and best avoided... but I don't worry about them anymore than I do about rabid elephants.
I truly believe that you can overcome this problem as well. If both Steve & I were able to do it successfully, you definitely can do it, too!! We both went about it in different ways, and I'm sure you'll find your own way as well. I believe in you -- I know you can succeed!
You're NOT crazy, you're not foolish, and you are certainly NOT alone in your struggle. I will put you in my daily prayers and meditation and send my intention for an outcome that is in alignment with your free will and your best and highest good.
If there is ANYTHING I can do to help you, or if you'd just like to talk about it -- please don't hesitate to ask. You are among friends -- Other-
Selves.
Namaste,
Love to All
First I'd like to thank you for posting this message, and also WELCOME to Bring4th! You are correct, I did indeed understand your perspective and story. It has obvious parallels to mine, and I am grateful you decided to share with me.
You know, whatever the topic, but especially one so painful, I find it really is a comfort to know that there are others out there who know what it's like -- who struggle or have struggled with the same issues that we are going through. I was originally apprehensive about posting on the topic, but received great comfort and inspiration when Steve shared his own story and successful outcome.
In fact, it was this thread that propelled me to finally do something about the problem. This is a relatively old thread -- and it's wonderful and amazing how much can change in a couple of years. Today, I do not react with terror to those images any longer. I do feel a slight sense of unease, but certainly no visceral reaction of fear. I very rarely think upon them any longer and they do not intrude in my dreams or meditations.
In my experience, things are not usually black and white. There may be different kinds of Greys who operate upon different frequencies and within different polarities. Some may be ETs, others demons or cyborgs. Perhaps some are quite positive, and some perhaps negative, but I really don't know. My overall feeling is that at least some of them are negative and I will act with great caution (but not fear) if I ever encounter one. The explanation of what they are and how they work that has resonated the most with me (that I have found to date) is in the work of John L. Lash (neo-Gnostic & Deep ecologist) in his discussion of Archons. They are described as inorganic beings that that have a neonatal, or fetal form that primarily operate using illusion, distortion, and suggestion in ancient Gnostic texts recovered at Nag Hammadi. However, I have no way to verify this understand either. Ultimately, I decided that what they are is more of an intellectual curiosiy than a practicle concern. So, I decided to just go with my intuition and try to tackle the fear without holding on to the need to FULLY understand who and what they are.
In my case, especially after reading Steve's replies, I had a strong suspicion that my problem was astral in nature. So, when a friend put me in touch with a person who specializes in removing negative astral attachments, I jumped at the opportunity. I had about an hour long phone call with her where she removed several negative entities of indeterminate type and led them into the Light. After that day, I had an immediate and dramatic reduction in my fear of these images. It's certainly possible that it was psychosomatic. Perhaps it was a placebo-effect, or maybe there really were negative attachments. I don't know nor do I really care. I'm just happy about the amazing improvement!
In the months that followed, I still had some fear when I'd see a Grey image or walk by an open window at night. However, whenever I would have these feelings, I would say a little affirmation I made for myself. Basically, I started asserting my Divinely-given right to live in joy and happiness, unmolested by those beings who had not yet chosen the light. Something along the lings of "I am a sovereign being who has chosen the Positive Path. I wish you no ill-will, but I reject your Service. I do not offer my fear for you to feed upon. May you be blessed and loved but go in peace. I am protected by the Source of all, the Infinite Creator, and Mother Gaia herself -- this space is sacred and by my free will I choose to only allow positive beings and influence into my space. Go in peace, friend, but go!"
As silly as it may sound, repeating those words or similar whenever a fearful thought about them would occur, or when I would see an image, worked wonderfully well! Over time, I didn't even need to say it any longer. I had come out the other side!
Today, I never dream about them or react fearfully. I do suspect that whatever they are, they are negative, and best avoided... but I don't worry about them anymore than I do about rabid elephants.
I truly believe that you can overcome this problem as well. If both Steve & I were able to do it successfully, you definitely can do it, too!! We both went about it in different ways, and I'm sure you'll find your own way as well. I believe in you -- I know you can succeed!
You're NOT crazy, you're not foolish, and you are certainly NOT alone in your struggle. I will put you in my daily prayers and meditation and send my intention for an outcome that is in alignment with your free will and your best and highest good.
If there is ANYTHING I can do to help you, or if you'd just like to talk about it -- please don't hesitate to ask. You are among friends -- Other-
Selves.
Namaste,
Love to All
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