10-24-2017, 04:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-24-2017, 04:26 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
(10-24-2017, 02:12 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I'm steadily confused now at everyone's annoyance at this thread.
At least say specifically why for others, especially if this is a scam, for the sake of others.
All I've really read is 'this is fake' and 'this is fraudulent' and ' this is made up by conspiracy theorists' and then OP says it works and everyone just got frustrated and stopped bothering.
As someone completely unaware of the more complex bits of banking, I am genuinely curious as to if this is legit or not or an accident or something else, more or less, or if it's just a fluke or what is even going on here???
OK, since you asked...
Here's the thing: If you read GS's posts carefully enough, you realize that it didn't work. He's stated that the charges he's making for his bills are getting reversed - he's just laughing that off. (Literally: "Lol the internet bill just reversed with a return fee.") But charges getting reversed means it doesn't work. At this point, all he has is that the charities he's sent money to haven't contacted him about the checks bouncing. But if someone sends a large bad check to a charity and wastes their time with it, are they necessarily going to spend even more time hunting the person down to complain?
And you might say "Wait, why would he keep writing checks if the charges are getting reversed?" That would be the essence of our frustration. He has been systematically disregarding every single piece of evidence that this won't work, to cling to his dream that it will.
On top of that, others have made links to agencies like the FTC or the Federal Reserve saying that the claims about "secret bank accounts" are false and that attempting to draw checks against them will not work. Now, a more conspiracy-minded person might say this is a smokescreen to cover up the existence of the secret bank accounts and, fine, we can't actually prove that's not the case. However, if The Federal Reserve is saying "These checks will not go through" then there's zero good reason to think they would go through anyway, regardless of the reasons why the Fed is saying this.
Regardless of whether it's a coverup, or the secret accounts truly don't exist, the Fed has no reason to honor the checks either way.
Plus, as I and others have mentioned before, this is all easily explained as simply being a mathematical byproduct of both SSNs and Fed account numbers having nine digits. With hundreds of millions of SSNs and other Tax IDs out there, it's absolutely guaranteed there would be a large overlap of SSNs and account #s which share the same sequence of numbers. That doesn't mean they're linked in any practical way.
Basically, GS is submitting checks which are processed electronically, and those electronic processes are almost always only concerned at first with numbers, not names. If the numbers look valid, the check goes through the initial stages of processing. It's only later on, when more thorough verifications are done, that it's discovered that he doesn't have legitimate access to the account that happens to share digits with his SSN. Then the charges are reversed. So the checks initially seem to go through because they pass the first stages, and only bounce later. That's the essence of what's going on here, although GS doesn't want to see it.
And because GS has been pushing this scheme for literally months and has disregarded every bit of argument, logic, and evidence for why it's not going to work, most of us (I believe) are at the point of simply washing our hands of the whole thing. If he doesn't stop, this is quite likely going to end with him getting a knock on the door from very polite men in dark suits, and I don't really want to think about where things might go from there... but it seems like there's no dissuading him from it.
Just don't follow him down that path. There's nothing to be gained from it, except lessons in wisdom which could be obtained more easily in other ways.