Green Ray Requirement for Harvest to 4D

[Aureus]

To create some perspective, would "Unconditional Love" be equal to full green ray activation, aka 100% STO?

I have a hard time imagining one's polarity to be the sum total of all energy spent/actions taken. Rather it would be a direct reading of energy disposition at a particular time/space.

[Namaste]

To create some perspective, would "Unconditional Love" be equal to full green ray activation, aka 100% STO?

I have a hard time imagining one's polarity to be the sum total of all energy spent/actions taken. Rather it would be a direct reading of energy disposition at a particular time/space.

If one's heart is open infinitely to others, then by definition it has to be 100%. So in that, I would agree.

Being able to do so is not just the opening of green ray, it's also the balancing of all other energy rays. An issue in the yellow ray would limit the flow to green, for example.

[zenmaster]

The higher chakras can be easily activated, but effectively blocked to a large extent without lower balancing work, providing a 'taste' of love or of the 'paranormal'. Lacking an explanation seated in one's mind through experience, the intuition starts creating the most convenient and readily accessible associations (typically, whatever the 'new-age' meme provides) and attachments with these disowned energies - as if they were separate by virtue of being spiritually numinous. This is how it is, and how it must be experienced and expressed when one lacks acceptance.

If the lower (centers) is adequately addressed, the mind is much more adequately prepared for these experiences, which should seem quite natural and obvious - as opposed to being ambiguous, random, and/or a 'sign'. This conscious work can be considered something like 'uniting heaven and earth'. However, there are so few people here that bother to do that work, that we (as a social complex) lack a (experiential) bridge from lower to higher. There should be more individuals who, just by being themselves, may serve as examples of this bridge.

[Diana]

The higher chakras can be easily activated, but effectively blocked to a large extent without lower balancing work, providing a 'taste' of love or of the 'paranormal'. Lacking an explanation seated in one's mind through experience, the intuition starts creating the most convenient and readily accessible associations (typically, whatever the 'new-age' meme provides) and attachments with these disowned energies - as if they were separate by virtue of being spiritually numinous. This is how it is, and how it must be experienced and expressed when one lacks acceptance.

If the lower (centers) is adequately addressed, the mind is much more adequately prepared for these experiences, which should seem quite natural and obvious - as opposed to being ambiguous, random, and/or a 'sign'. This conscious work can be considered something like 'uniting heaven and earth'. However, there are so few people here that bother to do that work, that we (as a social complex) lack a (experiential) bridge from lower to higher. There should be more individuals who, just by being themselves, may serve as examples of this bridge.

Without the grounding of the lower chakras and use of the throat and 3rd eye chakras, humans appear to be very unstable emotionally to the point of melodramatic, with "emotional" responses not balanced with logic or discernment. Couple with this the evolutionary fact that we are hard-wired to conserve energy, which make us "lazy." From these 2 aspects, arises a situation where humans simply react from their place of belief (such as new age or Christain).

In my opinion, humans need to evolve past our primal hard-wiring: to conserve energy or (die, starve, be unable to run from predator, etc.). By learning to "not react" one overrides the hard-wiring and begins to build a body/mind/spirit based on choice, and not based on simple survival.

The first thing the self can do, is think independently. Question everything.

[AnthroHeart]

That's good advice Diana. Questioning everything. I've definitely been unstable emotionally without logic or discernment. I believe the medical community calls that schizophrenia or bipolar. I'm now able to listen to music that used to frighten me.
Not reacting was one of my goals, learning to not be attached. Funny thing how it led me to be very reactive and strongly attached to emotional response.

[kycahi]

Not reacting was one of my goals, learning to not be attached. Funny thing how it led me to be very reactive and strongly attached to emotional response.

Wolf, you reminded me of the late author of Cosmic Trigger, Robert Anton Wilson. He said sometimes he would turn on Rush Limbaugh just to test whether he could listen without getting angry. That sure would be a toughie for me.

[Monica]

He said sometimes he would turn on Rush Limbaugh just to test whether he could listen without getting angry. That sure would be a toughie for me.

Oh wow! That's too advanced for me! Not sure I could pull that one off!

[zenmaster]

Without the grounding of the lower chakras and use of the throat and 3rd eye chakras, humans appear to be very unstable emotionally to the point of melodramatic

Are you sure the throat and 3rd-eye chakras necessarily require use in order to provide one with emotional stability? One can actively reflect upon the day's events, discover the causes of uneasy feelings and thereby balance and further their mind-body stability. I agree that throat (honesty) helps, but I'm not sure it's required. Further, the 3rd-eye is useful for actually seeing one's role in this situation of imbalance, but I'm not sure that's required either.

, with "emotional" responses not balanced with logic or discernment.

Things that can be balanced tend to be complimentary or reciprocally related. Unconscious emotional reactions are generally a symptom of imbalance (due to attachment, non-acceptance, or not being present) as opposed to something which itself needs to be balanced.

Logic is use of the rational thinking (space/time) faculty which has a compliment to the rational feeling (time/space) faculty. Feeling is an evaluation which sort of orders or arranges the subject of consciousness. Discernment tends to involve both those thinking and feeling tools.

[Diana]

Without the grounding of the lower chakras and use of the throat and 3rd eye chakras, humans appear to be very unstable emotionally to the point of melodramatic

Are you sure the throat and 3rd-eye chakras necessarily require use in order to provide one with emotional stability? One can actively reflect upon the day's events, discover the causes of uneasy feelings and thereby balance and further their mind-body stability. I agree that throat (honesty) helps, but I'm not sure it's required. Further, the 3rd-eye is useful for actually seeing one's role in this situation of imbalance, but I'm not sure that's required either.

I see your point. I was thinking that some wisdom was needed for balance, as well the ability to express emotion hoenstly. Without these, emotional stability seems unbalanced.

, with "emotional" responses not balanced with logic or discernment.

Things that can be balanced tend to be complimentary or reciprocally related. Unconscious emotional reactions are generally a symptom of imbalance (due to attachment, non-acceptance, or not being present) as opposed to something which itself needs to be balanced.

Logic is use of the rational thinking (space/time) faculty which has a compliment to the rational feeling (time/space) faculty. Feeling is an evaluation which sort of orders or arranges the subject of consciousness. Discernment tends to involve both those thinking and feeling tools.

Unconscious emotional reactions are also a result of limbic brain responses and emotional addictions, as well as the attachment, non-acceptance, or not being present that you mentioned.

Discernment can derive from pure logic, but I agree that the best kind of discernment would involve both feeling and thinking.

[irpsit]

As far as I know, this is simple matter.

To act from our heart, is to function with green ray (heart chakra) open and activated.

This does not happen often in humans, but it does ocasionally. Saints!

That does not mean an entity will automatically shift to 4D. No, the entity must wait until its harvest (end of life, or end of cycle). You can be Jesus Christ (love) and still on the planet. But the entity is surely on the path to STO (after its death).

If you have heart chakra open, it is difficult but possible to graduate STS. Fully open chakras more often lead to STO. A self evolution requires great focus in optimizing his/her own energies on the chakras (STS). This advance requires control and opening of higher chakras and a powerful control over the basic chakras. I think STS does not necessarily means control over others, although it often does.

STO is not quantified by chakra opening or amount of service in daily life. It must be a natural atitude, a natural state of being. A soul decision. To seek to help others and live with them, amongst love. Sounds easy, but this must be a natural spontaneous state, not a conscious decision, like choosing a job.

Sincerely and as Ra said, both spiritual paths are challenging. I never met a single human which is ready to walk one or the other. Saints, yogis, warriors are exceptions. But that is my opinion.

[AnthroHeart]

It's simple. If we have intent to open our hearts as much as possible, then I believe we've made it.

[tamaryn]

You made it when you have faced yourself and made it to see the light of the other side.

But we just have to keep doing this again and again!