(08-31-2011, 10:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Unless the abilities are slowly learned and the potential for them is slowly gained. Also, why is that disabling? What do you think superhuman powers means? Are you thinking about something you saw in a movie or something less imaginary? We're told that there will seem to be a new breed of transitional bodied people. They still have to learn their abilities - that involves discipline and takes awhile, especially in a society that does not teach such things.
No actually, I don't think you've interpreted the material correctly here, and it seems like you are willfully ignoring the actual descriptions of fourth density present in the material. There will be no society that "does not teach such things" because those harvested will leave that society behind and continue their life in fourth density from that point forward.
(Allowing perhaps for an extremely brief anamolous period where an entity might have conscious access to both densities. But this might just be wishful thinking on my part.)
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The fourth-density is one of revealed information. Selves are not hidden to self or other-selves.
All is revealed. Nothing is hidden. Things are obvious. This is wildly different than the situation we are currently experiencing. When this change comes about, it will be obvious, and immediate. One minute the veil is there, the next minute it is not. Why it would be disabling for a 3D entity to be in such an environment should be rather obvious by now.
In a world where all is revealed, there is no need to hide behind symbolism, or subjectivity. It is not a world where anything is "whatever you make it out to be". It is a world where things are what they are, and not a representation of what they are. Furthermore it is not a world which can be molded and twisted to whatever suits one's fancy, and nobody else will really notice, or care.
Oh, sure, you will be able to hallucinate whatever you want. Steak sandwich? No problem. You won't even have to "kill an animal" to have one. But you won't be able to do is force others to interact with your hallucinations.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The use of the word “normal” is one which befuddles the meaning of the question. Let us rephrase for clarity. The fourth density is, by choice, not visible to third density. It is possible for fourth density to be visible. However, it is not the choice of the fourth-density entity to be visible due to the necessity for concentration upon a rather difficult vibrational complex which is the third density you experience.
I've thrown this one out a few times, and it goes unacknowledged. Therefore, I will assume it is unchallenged. And it is clearly and unequivocally corroborated by this next one:
Quote:Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth-density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third-density.
Thus in fourth-density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo.
Yellow goes out due to the lack of development of fourth density entities... with respect to turning their abilities
off, not on. Blue goes into potentiation because it is not necessary to discern between "your truth" and "my truth" in fourth density. The indigo goes into potentiation because its work in transferring consciousness is done.
Quote:The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.
Here's a gem. The "transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density" along with the key to the "gateway of intelligent infinity". This is not "normal evolutionary processes". People, including Ra, do not use the words "transformation" and "transmutation" to refer to something which happens slowly over a long period of time. If Ra meant evolution, Ra would have used the word evolution.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. These are planetary entities harvested—Wanderers only in the sense that they chose, in fourth-density love, to immediately reincarnate in third density rather than proceeding towards fourth density. This causes them to be Wanderers of a type, Wanderers who have never left the Earth plane because of their free will rather than because of their vibrational level.
But wait! If those entities could have proceeded toward fourth density 25,000 years ago that means... fourth density already existed. We are not "creating" fourth density on earth. We are transforming and transmuting aspects of third density to fourth density...
ALREADY IN PROGRESS. Various people keep talking about when did fourth density begin? Huh? What do you mean, begin? Fourth density is not beginning. It was available to harvestable entities 25,000 years ago, and 50,000 years ago. Actually, it was available to all possible harvestable entities across all possible parallel dimensions, on all possible planetary spheres, since the beginning of time. "Time"... as in 3D. In 4D there is no "time".
Mother earth is already living in her new cozy home in fourth density. We are the movers she sent back to pick up her stuff. There now I have metaphorized it and left it up to subjective interpretation as to who, exactly, constitutes "we".
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There is one harvest. Those able to enter fourth density through vibrational complex levels may choose the manner of their further seeking of the One Creator.
There is one harvest. Not many harvests strewn about over a period of a thousand years. Upon harvest, those able to enter fourth density will do so. That means, leaving here, and going to fourth density earth. Not turning third density earth slowly into fourth density earth, so as not to disrupt anybody in the process. Also, those who enter fourth density will choose their form of service. Not work a crappy job at McDonald's and practice their telepathy at night before bed.
And besides, anybody with a modicum of plain vanilla knowledge of human and geological history knows that nature doesn't give a diddly-squat. Woop, here comes a meteor! Bye-bye dinosaurs! Whoa!! There went Atlantis! Black Plague, anybody? There's plenty to go 'round!
The funny thing is that you seem to think my view as overly fantastical or magical, while I see 1000 years of harv-gasmic bliss to be magical thinking to the extreme. Why now are we suddenly "saved" of all these possible scenarios ever occurring? What? The hand of god is going to reach down and stop meteors from impacting earth in order to keep Jimbo alive?
No, the only way "out" of this situation is to leave this place and go to another place where things like meteors, and floods, and plagues, don't really happen. (Unless, again, somebody feels like putting on a good show.) This place is called fourth density earth. It vibrates at a different level on the spectrum than third density earth where such inconveniences occur.
Fourth density earth is not "created" by everybody getting together in third density earth and singing cumbaya while their "positive vibrations" deflect meteors and solar flares for all eternity. Meanwhile, all our "space brothers" land and we get together at Starbucks for a coffee with them and chat about the upcoming elections. "Gee, I just don't know who to vote for! I was a Ron Paul supporter, but now with Bashar and SaLuSa on the ticket, I am not so sure!"
All of this nonsense is due to a pointless attempt to force third density terms onto a fourth density experience. How do I know it is pointless? Because Ra, a sixth density entity, could barely find the words to even attempt to describe it to us. It is wishful thinking to the extreme.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider as we speak that there are not words for positively describing fourth density. We can only explain what is not and approximate what is. Beyond fourth density our ability grows more limited until we become without words.
That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.
Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thought of other-selves; it is a plane wherein one is aware of vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.
Another "lost soldier" quote that I keep floating out in the ethers with little to no attention. Curiously, this quote is the best "description" we have so it seems a little odd to not consider it.
Yet even Ra can barely find words to describe it. If fourth density was just like third density, only slightly more fun, Ra would have said so. If there was
anything in third density that Ra could have glommed onto in Carla's mind, I can only assume they would have made use of it.
The body is "much denser and more full of life". I'm sorry, but I have a degree in biology and I have no way of explaining this using what I would consider to be normal terminology. Therefore, whatever Ra is talking about here is completely unlike anything I currently perceive about what a body is, and how it functions.
Then there is the piece "automatically harmonized by group consensus". Well, there you have it. I mean... what do YOU think this means? We all will get together and cast votes on the Internet, or something? The only plausible mechanism for automatic harmonization by group consensus is telepathy... by everybody... all at once. Here it is again, just in cased you missed it:
Quote:That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen.
Now why would Ra have decided to phrase it thusly, if they weren't attempting to make a clear-cut point?
To imagine a situation where a certain portion of the population started to form a social memory complex, but another part of the population was left out... I mean.. the only word that really comes to mind is
disabling.
All of the technology you see around you- phones, computers, television, the Internet, automobiles, airplanes, spaceships, is
completely unnecessary in fourth density. The only reason these technologies even "exist" is to help balance out the 3D entities who have been incarnated during a period of greatly increased bleedthrough of fourth density energies.
These technologies are there to help keep everybody sane. They help the 3D entity better deal with the incoming 4D energy, and they help the 4D candidate to get a little peek into what 4D will actually be like when they get there. They also serve as a mechanism for the 4D negative to trick and deceive 3D entities into believing they are gods, and to trick seekers into supporting a "return of the Golden Age" on earth... with our new "
Ascended Masters" at the helm, of course.
Once in fourth density, these devices are nothing more than contrivances. They are mostly for show, or for amusement. Or perhaps as a teaching tool for 4D neophytes... but only with the understanding that they have no independent reality of their own and are a complete fabrication of the mind.