+- Bring4th (https://www.bring4th.org/forums)
+-- Forum: Bring4th Community (https://www.bring4th.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=16)
+--- Forum: Olio (https://www.bring4th.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Thread: The mysterious nature of time (/showthread.php?tid=2614)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
388
389
390
391
392
393
394
395
396
397
398
399
400
401
402
403
404
405
406
407
408
409
410
411
412
413
414
415
416
417
418
419
420
421
422
423
424
425
426
427
428
429
430
431
432
433
434
435
436
437
438
439
440
441
442
443
444
445
446
447
448
449
450
451
452
453
454
455
456
457
458
459
460
461
462
463
464
465
466
467
468
469
470
471
472
473
474
475
476
477
478
479
480
481
482
483
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
491
492
493
494
495
496
497
498
499
500
501
502
503
504
505
506
507
508
509
510
511
512
513
514
515
516
517
518
519
520
521
522
523
524
525
526
527
528
529
530
531
532
533
534
535
536
537
538
539
540
541
542
543
544
545
546
547
548
549
550
551
552
553
554
555
556
557
558
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 12-13-2011
Bring4th_Aaron
Thank you for being a most excellent message bearer. You are loved and appreciated!
Confused - thank you for being steadfast and for not being confused.
Light and love!
Ruth
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Diana - 12-14-2011
(12-12-2011, 10:06 AM)Confused Wrote:(12-12-2011, 09:44 AM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Dear Confused,
I have a question to deliver to you from our dear friends Oceania and Meerie, coming from all the way on the other side of the world in the Treehouse! :p
Oceania asks: Einstein says movement creates time. did he mean vibration?
TIME may be a form of the One Infinite Creator itself. If the ONE is the highest vibration of will and love that we know, then I think any movement in it creates the illusion of time and space, for the purpose of projection of itself into infinite units of consciousness. It is all the play of the ONE, which I do not understand. I can only bow and seek its blessings to help me go back home safely, i.e., into the bosom of the ONE.
According to Einstein, the faster you travel, the slower time moves forward. It doesn't actually create time, because time is relative and there is no fixed position for time.
String theory has more to do with vibration. The tiniest units would be vibrating "strings" vibrating at different rates somewhat like a musical note.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-15-2011
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Namaste - 12-15-2011
(12-12-2011, 09:44 AM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Dear Confused,
I have a question to deliver to you from our dear friends Oceania and Meerie, coming from all the way on the other side of the world in the Treehouse! :p
Oceania asks: Einstein says movement creates time. did he mean vibration?
Not that this was directed at me, but I have a perspective to offer on this.
Vibration is within all, it's the animator of manifest reality, and all that above and below it. So in essence, yes.
But, that leaves out a step or two :¬)
One needs to frame time in the right context. It's not some linear thing that we ride. It's drawn through us.
It is time that allows us to make a journey from A to B. Hence, when one intends to move, time is then created and drawn through your being.
When you drive down a road, you're not moving towards the destination. You are fixed in your position. The manifest world - the destination - is drawn to you, and the medium of that; time.
We each create the illusion of time through our experience. We draw it through us as we move. Hence, time and space are intrinsically linked in this density.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-16-2011
50
The Master gives himself up
to whatever the moment brings.
He knows that he is going to die,
and her has nothing left to hold on to:
no illusions in his mind,
no resistances in his body.
He doesn’t think about his actions;
they flow from the core of his being.
He holds nothing back from life;
therefore he is ready for death,
as a man is ready for sleep
after a good day’s work.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-17-2011
51
Every being in the universe
is an expression of the Tao.
It springs into existence,
unconscious, perfect, free,
takes on a physical body,
lets circumstances complete it.
That is why every being
spontaneously honors the Tao.
The Tao gives birth to all beings,
nourishes them, maintains them,
cares for them, comforts them, protects them,
takes them back to itself,
creating without possessing,
acting without expecting,
guiding without interfering.
That is why love of the Tao
is in the very nature of things.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 12-20-2011
(12-15-2011, 10:14 AM)Namaste Wrote: We each create the illusion of time through our experience. We draw it through us as we move. Hence, time and space are intrinsically linked in this density.We create the illusion of space through our experience also. Time and space are intrinsically linked in all densities of the octave, because time and space are the same thing.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-20-2011
52
In the beginning was the Tao.
All things issue from it;
all things return to it.
To find the origin,
trace back the manifestations.
When you recognize the children
and find the mother,
you will be free of sorrow.
If you close your mind in judgements
and traffic with desires,
your heart will be troubled.
If you keep your mind from judging
and aren’t led by the senses,
your heart will find peace.
Seeing into darkness is clarity.
Knowing how to yield is strength.
Use your own light
and return to the source of light.
This is called practicing eternity.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-20-2011
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-22-2011
53
The great Way is easy,
yet people prefer the side paths.
Be aware when things are out of balance.
Stay centered within the Tao.
When rich speculators prosper
While farmers lose their land;
when government officials spend money
on weapons instead of cures;
when the upper class is extravagant and irresponsible
while the poor have nowhere to turnall
this is robbery and chaos.
It is not in keeping with the Tao.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-22-2011
54
Whoever is planted in the Tao
will not be rooted up.
Whoever embraces the Tao
will not slip away.
Her name will be held in honor
from generation to generation.
Let the Tao be present in your life
and you will become genuine.
Let it be present in your family
and your family will flourish.
Let it be present in your country
and your country will be an example
to all countries in the world.
Let it be present in the universe
and the universe will sing.
How do I know this is true?
By looking inside myself.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-23-2011
55
He who is in harmony with the Tao
is like a newborn child.
Its bones are soft, its muscles are weak,
but its grip is powerful.
It doesn’t know about the union
of male and female,
yet its penis can stand erect,
so intense is its vital power.
It can scream its head off all day,
yet it never becomes hoarse,
so complete is its harmony.
The Master’s power is like this.
He lets all things come and go
effortlessly, without desire.
He never expects results;
thus he is never disappointed.
He is never disappointed;
thus his spirit never grows old.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-24-2011
56
Those who know don’t talk.
Those who talk don’t know.
Close your mouth,
block off your senses,
blunt your sharpness,
untie your knots,
soften your glare,
settle your dust.
This is the primal identity.
Be like the Tao.
It can’t be approached or withdrawn from,
benefited or harmed,
honored or brought into disgrace.
It gives itself up continually.
That is why it endures.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-26-2011
57
If you want to be a great leader,
you must learn to follow the Tao.
Stop trying to control.
Let go of fixed plans and concepts,
and the world will govern itself.
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-26-2011
58
If a country is governed with tolerance,
the people are comfortable and honest.
If a country is governed with repression,
the people are depressed and crafty.
When the will to power is in charge,
the higher the ideals, the lower the results.
Try to make people happy,
and you lay the groundwork for misery.
Try to make people moral,
and you lay the groundwork for vice.
Thus the Master is content
to serve as an example
and not to impose her will.
She is pointed, but doesn’t pierce.
Straightforward, but supple.
Radiant, but easy on the eyes.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-27-2011
59
For governing a country well
there is nothing better than moderation.
The mark of a moderate man
is freedom from his own ideas.
Tolerant like the sky,
all-pervading like sunlight,
firm like a mountain,
supple like a tree in the wind,
he has no destination in view
and makes use of anything
life happens to bring his way.
Nothing is impossible for him.
Because he has let go,
he can care for the people’s welfare
as a mother cares for her child.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-29-2011
60
Governing a large country
is like frying a small fish.
You spoil it with too much poking.
Center your country in the Tao
and evil will have no power.
Not that it isn’t there,
but you’ll be able to step out of its way.
Give evil nothing to oppose
and it will disappear by itself.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-31-2011
61
When a country obtains great power,
it becomes like the sea:
all streams run downward into it.
The more powerful it grows,
the greater the need for humility.
Humility means trusting the Tao,
thus never needing to be defensive.
A great nation is like a great man:
When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.
Having realized it, he admits it.
Having admitted it, he corrects it.
He considers those who point out his faults
as his most benevolent teachers.
He thinks of his enemy
as the shadow that he himself casts.
If a nation is centered in the Tao,
if it nourishes its own people
and doesn’t meddle in the affairs of others,
it will be a light to all nations in the world.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 12-31-2011
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-01-2012
62
The Tao is the center of the universe,
the good man’s treasure,
the bad man’s refuge.
Honors can be bought with fine words,
respect can be won with good deeds;
but the Tao is beyond all value,
and no one can achieve it.
Thus, when a new leader is chosen,
don’t offer to help him
with your wealth or your expertise.
Offer instead
to teach him about the Tao.
Why did the ancient Masters esteem the Tao?
Because, being one with the Tao,
when you seek, you find;
and when you make a mistake, you are forgiven.
That is why everybody loves it.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-04-2012
63
Act without doing;
work without effort.
Think of the small as large
and the few as many.
Confront the difficult
while it is still easy;
accomplish the great task
by a series of small acts.
The Master never reaches for the great;
thus she achieves greatness.
When she runs into a difficulty,
she stops and gives herself to it.
She doesn’t cling to her own comfort;
thus problems are no problem for her.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 01-04-2012
This one rings true for me Confused. Thank you for posting.
Here at work I've become involved in a somewhat large and challenging project,
so these words of wisdom are always welcome.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-05-2012
Much love to you, Gemini!
64
What is rooted is easy to nourish.
What is recent is easy to correct.
What is brittle is easy to break.
What is small is easy to scatter.
Prevent trouble before it arises.
Put things in order before they exist.
The giant pine tree
grows from a tiny sprout.
The journey of a thousand miles
starts from beneath your feet.
Rushing into action, you fail.
Trying to grasp things, you lose them.
Forcing a project to completion,
you ruin what was almost ripe.
Therefore the Master takes action
by letting things take their course.
He remains as calm
at the end as at the beginning.
He has nothing,
thus has nothing to lose.
What he desires is non-desire;
what he learns is to unlearn.
He simply reminds people
of who they have always been.
He cares about nothing but the Tao.
Thus he can care for all things.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-05-2012
65
The ancient Masters
didn’t try to educate the people,
but kindly taught them to not-know.
When they think that they know the answers,
people are difficult to guide.
When they know that they don’t know,
people can find their own way.
If you want to learn how to govern,
avoid being clever or rich.
The simplest pattern is the clearest.
Content with an ordinary life,
you can show all people the way
back to their own true nature.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-06-2012
66
All streams flow to the sea
because it is lower than they are.
Humility gives it its power.
If you want to govern the people,
you must place yourself below them.
If you want to lead the people,
you must learn how to follow them.
The Master is above the people,
and no one feels oppressed.
She goes ahead of the people,
and no one feels manipulated.
The whole world is grateful to her.
Because she competes with no one,
no one can compete with her.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-07-2012
Thank you, Ruth, for being there always!!
67
Some say that my teaching is nonsense.
Others call it lofty but impractical.
But to those who have looked inside themselves,
this nonsense makes perfect sense.
And to those who put it into practice,
this loftiness has roots that go deep.
I have just three things to teach:
simplicity, patience, compassion.
These three are your greatest treasures.
Simple in actions and in thoughts,
you return to the source of being.
Patient with both friends and enemies,
you accord with the way things are.
Compassionate toward yourself,
you reconcile all beings in the world.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-09-2012
68
The best athlete
wants his opponent at his best.
The best general
enters the mind of his enemy.
The best businessman
serves the communal good.
The best leader
follows the will of the people.
All of the embody
the virtue of non-competition.
Not that they don’t love to compete,
but they do it in the spirit of play.
In this they are like children
and in harmony with the Tao.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-09-2012
69
The generals have a saying:
”Rather than make the first move
it is better to wait and see.
Rather than advance an inch
it is better to retreat a yard.”
This is called
going forward without advancing,
pushing back without using weapons.
There is no greater misfortune
than underestimating your enemy.
Underestimating your enemy
means thinking that he is evil.
Thus you destroy your three treasures
and become an enemy yourself.
When two great forces oppose each other,
the victory will go
to the one that knows how to yield.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-10-2012
70
My teachings are easy to understand
and easy to put into practice.
Yet your intellect will never grasp them,
and if you try to practice them, you’ll fail.
My teachings are older than the world.
How can you grasp their meaning?
If you want to know me,
look inside your heart.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 01-10-2012
You are welcome, Confused (Not Confused). I love you.
It's funny to me - I can read this material elsewhere. But reading it here gives it all so much more meaning to me. Perhaps it is the love with which you share it?
:-)
Ruth