(12-12-2013, 02:30 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I'm again reminded that people newly learning about the mechanism of projection will try to force-fit its operation on others, in an attempt to make sense of what they don't understand.

(12-14-2013, 09:43 PM)plenum Wrote: I had some interesting thoughts about the nature of 'sharing' or 'giving' these last 24 hours.

the use of the word 'sharing' puts an emphasis on 'giving' and somehow someone being the giver and the other being the recipient. It's a notion that comes from childhood.

and sharing is great and all, and giving is most awesome

but in relation to the society, I've been thinking a bit more deeply about this aspect of the individual and the society.

I sort of shifted the understanding of 'sharing' away from the lines of 'giving' and rather to the notion of 'not withholding'. This may sound like semantics, but I can explain a bit more about what I mean about 'not withholding'.

when there is the sense of 'giving', there is also the possibility of what one gives of being rejected, or not accepted, or not valued. That can be a problem if the self understands this, and then one feels the need to perhaps give more, or always looking for opportunities, etc etc. That is of course, just one response, and others might react differently to it etc.

but if the emphasis is shifted to the self and 'not withholding', then the self and society can be seen as being integrated and merged; the 'not withholding oneself' means the boundaries are not really seen as being hard and definitive; there can be a flow between the self and society.

and by 'not withholding', the society can still reject or not value what one is, but on the side of the self, there is no rejection or reactivity. One is 'not withholding' who one is, and so there is an honesty and directness in the interactions. One is not insisting that societal interactions must take place in a certain way, but the interactions that do present themselves, one is allowing the full flow of the self to interact, given the parameters and cirumstances of the situation (and also recognising factors like appropriateness, helpfulness, service etc). The attitude of 'not withholding' sets the possibility of the full spectrum of interactions that may be possible, given their specific eventuation.

so rather than considering it 'sharing my time', 'giving my resources', etc etc, one can shift the attitude to 'not withholding' who I am.

the 'not withholding' statement also implies a state where boundaries are not regarded as definitive (there is a flow between self and other), but also that the act of 'withholding' is the more blocked and dis-aligned with energetic flows.

so one does not need to 'force' oneself to share or give or take on the role of a 'lightworker' etc etc. All one needs to do is not withhold who one is (whatever skills, abilities, insights, knowledge that one has), and the society can utilise, accept, or not accept, or find opportunities.

as has been pointed out by someone else on these forums, the self and society are not really distinct. Putting this attitude into clearer perspective can clear any self blockages that one may have accepted unknowlngly through a difficult childhood in which the self was seen as being rejected by the larger society.

(12-26-2013, 02:23 PM)rie Wrote: We call this introjection (internalized self). The counterpart of projection.

(12-26-2013, 06:15 PM)rie Wrote: Awesome. I recommend studying psychology bc you seem very psychologically minded.

Quote:Weeding out what's our parents/society's expectation, hopes, distortions, and other-ascribed personality and roles with what it more 'true' for self is part of individuation process (becoming a mature, independent person).

(12-31-2013, 10:26 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: Dolphins ‘deliberately get high’ on puffer fish nerve toxins by carefully chewing and passing...

Dolphins are thought of as one of the most intelligent species in the animal kingdom – and experts believe they have put their ingenuity to use in the pursuit of getting “high”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/dolphins-deliberately-get-high-on-puffer-fish-nerve-toxins-by-carefully-chewing-and-passing-them-around-9030126.html

(02-03-2014, 08:22 PM)Namaste Wrote:

(12-31-2013, 10:26 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: Dolphins ‘deliberately get high’ on puffer fish nerve toxins by carefully chewing and passing...

Dolphins are thought of as one of the most intelligent species in the animal kingdom – and experts believe they have put their ingenuity to use in the pursuit of getting “high”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/dolphins-deliberately-get-high-on-puffer-fish-nerve-toxins-by-carefully-chewing-and-passing-them-around-9030126.html

Love this! I remember seeing a tiger roll around in some kind of plant (I think) that gave it altered states.

(02-14-2014, 08:53 AM)Fang Wrote: I'm learning that people who use (their interpretation of) the Ra material as an indisputable source of authority are usually pretty detached from reality and it disturbs me greatly how often people do this.

Quote:I've been seeing it be totally misinterpreted, too... It's good to study in groups, tho, at least we can bounce stuff off of each other tho some will staunchly stick to their interpretation.

What do you mean by detached from reality? Reality as in experience?

(02-17-2014, 08:18 AM)Rake Wrote: I'v learnt that full moons and OBE's go hand in hand for me on a personal level. Now I just need to understand why.

(02-17-2014, 05:59 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:

(02-17-2014, 08:18 AM)Rake Wrote: I'v learnt that full moons and OBE's go hand in hand for me on a personal level. Now I just need to understand why.

full moons are always exciting.

so much emotional stuff gets dragged up; a lot of stuff that normally we hide from ourselves.

it can be quite a challenging few days, but the catalyst that is offered can be invaluable for growth.

it's fortunate that the full moon phase is only active for a few days each month though; I think most of us would become quite insane with that level of emotional intensity all the time.

do you learn much from your OBE's Rake? or are they just 'experiences'?

Quote:The Gamma Quadrant is the common designation for one quarter of the Milky Way Galaxy. Its boundary is defined by a meridian passing through the galactic core and the Sol system, and a second meridian perpendicular at the core. Its closest point to Earth is located approximately 30,000 light years away. However, the stable Bajoran wormhole links a point four light years away from the Idran system in the Gamma Quadrant with the Bajoran system in the Alpha Quadrant. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)