(05-22-2019, 01:55 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Ra said that few can handle 4th density light.

Quote:Questioner: Yes, thank you. I got a letter today from a brother who is very, very busy seeking Nirvana of the quickie variety and he would like to know the answer to a question which is difficult for me to fathom. However, I will ask it as he asked it because I would very much appreciate being able to send him a reply. He has studied under a yogic philosophy for many years and would very much like to return to the source. He identifies this source as being at the ninth density. He would like to know if it is possible to bypass all the intervening densities in this lifetime and go back to the source using his yogic practices. Could you comment on these concepts and help our brother, who is truly an earnest seeker, in any way that you see appropriate, please?

I am Laitos, and am aware of your question. We are also aware that entities such as this brother upon your planet at this time seek with great intensity the meaning of their lives and a path which might bring them that which might be called enlightenment. Many are the ways which your peoples have chosen to seek this path throughout the history of your planet. Each path has provided integral pieces of the puzzle, shall we say, which are most necessary for the sincere seeker to utilize in the polarization of the self to a degree which is, shall we say, harvestable. Many such paths have produced those called the saints, the avatars, the gurus, each of which, through disciplined exercises of many kinds, has been able to balance the centers of energy in your mind and body/mind/spirit complex to a degree that is necessary for this harvest into the next density of the illusion of the one Creator. Each discipline, while providing a viable path for the spiritual evolution, also contains those facets which may be considered distortions or misapprehensions of certain spiritual qualities and descriptions.

It is our humble understanding that the path of spiritual evolution must be one which is straight and narrow and of some considerable length, traveling through many illusions and densities with the one goal of becoming one with the Creator. What this means for each entity in any illusion is that the instreamings of the love/light of the one Creator are available for use by each entity; this love/light or prana being channeled through the energy centers or chakras, if you will, in such a manner that the light is used efficiently, each density providing the seeker of union with a greater intensity of light.

Upon the completion of the cycle of incarnations in any density an entity is given the opportunity to, shall we say, grade itself by being bathed in the light of the one Creator until it is no longer able to withstand or utilize the increasing intensity of light. This light has degrees shall we say, of vibration. When the entity can no longer withstand or use the light, then it stops at that point and that point falls where it may. Wherever it falls it is then the entity’s choice, by its own ability to use the light, to continue its study in the appropriate illusion which matches the intensity of light which has been utilized.

Few there are upon your planet at this time who can withstand the intensity of the light of the fourth density. For this light is what might be called a quantum leap beyond that which you now experience within your third density. If any entity were to experience it for but a moment and be able to withstand it, for that moment that entity would feel indeed that it had returned to its Source and would most likely be quite appreciative of that experience. For such seekers as your brother to desire to progress more rapidly than is possible, shall we say, realizing that all things are possible, is a commendable trait, but one which is not likely to be realized, for though your density provides an intense degree of catalyst and opportunity for traveling the spiritual path, to the best of our knowledge, it does not provide enough catalyst to build the polarity necessary to, shall we say, skip any density.

To the best of our knowledge, when this octave of densities is completed the individualized entities will find themselves at the level of the eighth density— one with the Source of this particular creation. But our teachers have not themselves found such union nor have their teachers told them of an end to such progressions.

We shall continue. For an entity to return to the Source does not mean the end to evolution. For an entity to desire to progress spiritually as rapidly as possible is quite commendable, but we would suggest that it is most necessary to learn to walk, shall we say, before one runs or flies or soars beyond the start. Yours is a density in which the child learns to crawl. Rejoice in the opportunities which are thusly presented to you.

(05-22-2019, 04:28 PM)Infinite Wrote:

(05-22-2019, 01:55 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Ra said that few can handle 4th density light.

I believe you are talking about this stretch from Laitos:

Quote:Questioner: Yes, thank you. I got a letter today from a brother who is very, very busy seeking Nirvana of the quickie variety and he would like to know the answer to a question which is difficult for me to fathom. However, I will ask it as he asked it because I would very much appreciate being able to send him a reply. He has studied under a yogic philosophy for many years and would very much like to return to the source. He identifies this source as being at the ninth density. He would like to know if it is possible to bypass all the intervening densities in this lifetime and go back to the source using his yogic practices. Could you comment on these concepts and help our brother, who is truly an earnest seeker, in any way that you see appropriate, please?

I am Laitos, and am aware of your question. We are also aware that entities such as this brother upon your planet at this time seek with great intensity the meaning of their lives and a path which might bring them that which might be called enlightenment. Many are the ways which your peoples have chosen to seek this path throughout the history of your planet. Each path has provided integral pieces of the puzzle, shall we say, which are most necessary for the sincere seeker to utilize in the polarization of the self to a degree which is, shall we say, harvestable. Many such paths have produced those called the saints, the avatars, the gurus, each of which, through disciplined exercises of many kinds, has been able to balance the centers of energy in your mind and body/mind/spirit complex to a degree that is necessary for this harvest into the next density of the illusion of the one Creator. Each discipline, while providing a viable path for the spiritual evolution, also contains those facets which may be considered distortions or misapprehensions of certain spiritual qualities and descriptions.

It is our humble understanding that the path of spiritual evolution must be one which is straight and narrow and of some considerable length, traveling through many illusions and densities with the one goal of becoming one with the Creator. What this means for each entity in any illusion is that the instreamings of the love/light of the one Creator are available for use by each entity; this love/light or prana being channeled through the energy centers or chakras, if you will, in such a manner that the light is used efficiently, each density providing the seeker of union with a greater intensity of light.

Upon the completion of the cycle of incarnations in any density an entity is given the opportunity to, shall we say, grade itself by being bathed in the light of the one Creator until it is no longer able to withstand or utilize the increasing intensity of light. This light has degrees shall we say, of vibration. When the entity can no longer withstand or use the light, then it stops at that point and that point falls where it may. Wherever it falls it is then the entity’s choice, by its own ability to use the light, to continue its study in the appropriate illusion which matches the intensity of light which has been utilized.

Few there are upon your planet at this time who can withstand the intensity of the light of the fourth density. For this light is what might be called a quantum leap beyond that which you now experience within your third density. If any entity were to experience it for but a moment and be able to withstand it, for that moment that entity would feel indeed that it had returned to its Source and would most likely be quite appreciative of that experience. For such seekers as your brother to desire to progress more rapidly than is possible, shall we say, realizing that all things are possible, is a commendable trait, but one which is not likely to be realized, for though your density provides an intense degree of catalyst and opportunity for traveling the spiritual path, to the best of our knowledge, it does not provide enough catalyst to build the polarity necessary to, shall we say, skip any density.

To the best of our knowledge, when this octave of densities is completed the individualized entities will find themselves at the level of the eighth density— one with the Source of this particular creation. But our teachers have not themselves found such union nor have their teachers told them of an end to such progressions.

We shall continue. For an entity to return to the Source does not mean the end to evolution. For an entity to desire to progress spiritually as rapidly as possible is quite commendable, but we would suggest that it is most necessary to learn to walk, shall we say, before one runs or flies or soars beyond the start. Yours is a density in which the child learns to crawl. Rejoice in the opportunities which are thusly presented to you.

Anyway, about the core of your question, I suggest don't concern about the harvest. Your concern don't change anything. Just work on yourself and seek the love and the opening of the heart.

(05-22-2019, 05:43 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Did you bold the sections yourself, or were they already bolded?

(05-22-2019, 01:55 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Ra said that few can handle 4th density light.
Does that mean that very few will harvest?

Even us who seek wholeheartedly, does that mean that few of us will harvest?

As Top Gun mentioned the best of the best, is that what 4th density wants? Only the best of the best?

(05-23-2019, 08:46 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Ra also mentioned the “orange-ray drop down.” Which is a lower grade of consciousness, self-centered and emotionally ruled. Akin to an animal. They’re expressing themselves in base terms. I think we can see this all over the world around us... if not the orange ray, then people are blocked in the yellow ray, which is an over focus on the societal self. I see this far too often, that people consider “my side” to be all knowing and right, and the “other side” to be wrong. The sense of separation is more and more cemented with that kind of thinking.

(05-23-2019, 01:41 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:

(05-23-2019, 08:46 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Ra also mentioned the “orange-ray drop down.” Which is a lower grade of consciousness, self-centered and emotionally ruled. Akin to an animal. They’re expressing themselves in base terms. I think we can see this all over the world around us... if not the orange ray, then people are blocked in the yellow ray, which is an over focus on the societal self. I see this far too often, that people consider “my side” to be all knowing and right, and the “other side” to be wrong. The sense of separation is more and more cemented with that kind of thinking.

I tend to be emotionally driven, and come from orange-ray. I don't really even consider getting out and about with society.
I feel I may be blocked in orange ray, because I do have sexual distortions as well.
I'm not always loving and coming from green ray. It is hit or miss.

Not sure if this is something that meditation can help. But I can try.

(05-24-2019, 07:00 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I have come to terms with the fact that my goals aren't really graduation. Agua once told me my concern with graduation was really just me not wanting to be here in 3D anymore and wanting to escape. The truth of that stuck with me and I have since come to realize I have a lot more Earthly goals to accomplish before I work on graduating. Right now, I realize I need to let go of my need for external validation/approval to be the man I want to be. This is a necessary step for graduation, but graduation is not my goal for doing so. I'm slowly getting more comfortable with the thought of possibly repeating 3rd density on some other planet or something and I'm just trying to make the best life I can for myself with this life on this planet. Who knows? Maybe I'll eventually get to a point of being harvestable, but it's not my goal. I may or may not be a wanderer, and I may or may not end up harvestable after all is said and done, but I've learned to just stop being concerned with it and focus on the lesson I'm needing to learn, which is not needing external validation. I'm just going to try and focus on the improvement of myself and my life and if that ends up taking me to a point of harvestability, great. If not, I'll still have lived a life that satisfied me. Or at least that's my goal.