Hatonn and one mind!!

[wayi]

Hatonn in one of his sessions with Carla says that there is only mind and that's the mind of the creator. However Ra says that we are mind body spirit complexes and there exist more than one mind. What do you think about this inconsistency?

[Jim Kent +]

Hatonn in one of his sessions with Carla says that there is only mind and that's the mind of the creator. However Ra says that we are mind body spirit complexes and there exist more than one mind. What do you think about this inconsistency?

Greetings Wayi, 

Welcome to the forum.

The Confederation also state that every mind/body/spirit complex eventually evolves up through the densities to reach 7th Density, where "we" become inseparable and indistinguishable from The Creator and become totally One Mind/Being. Although, as "we"exist on these higher levels, freed from the constraints of linear-time, it can be said that we exist "there" now also, it's all simultaneous.

However, my puny 3rd Density mind is not capable of totally and truly understanding the resolution of the paradox that "we" exist as seemingly separate entities - mind/body/spirit complexes - yet "we" are One! And I don't think that we will truly understand that resolved paradox until 6th Density.

So I see your point as a paradox and not an inconsistency.

L & L    

Jim
  

[RitaJC]

I believe we are one mind experiencing itself as an illusion of being many

[Nau7ik]

It’s not an inconsistency. What they say is true. In truth, there is only one Mind here, the mind of the Creator. The Creator is all that there is whatsoever. There is nothing else and there can be nothing else.

In order to experience itself and to know itself, it takes on the guise of the many, but that many is One in truth. This is what the Law of One is all about. Separation is illusory.

From Unity/Infinity, did we follow the path of involution into the manifestation of many-ness. Now, we seek the path of evolution to return to Unity, with a full harvest of experience through the densities. This is the Creator knowing itself. We are the Creator; we are the means by which the Creator accomplishes the knowing of itself. We are it’s hands, ears, eyes, mouth, etc. Our very being is powered by the Divine Spark, Yechidah. That Spark shall return to its Source in due time.

That is what the Law of One means. All is One and One is All.

Qabalistic doctrine is also explicit in this regard: “the One unfolds into the Many, and the Many are reabsorbed into the One.”

[kristina]

Hatonn in one of his sessions with Carla says that there is only mind and that's the mind of the creator. However Ra says that we are mind body spirit complexes and there exist more than one mind. What do you think about this inconsistency?

Greetings Wayi, 

Welcome to the forum.

The Confederation also state that every mind/body/spirit complex eventually evolves up through the densities to reach 7th Density, where "we" become inseparable and indistinguishable from The Creator and become totally One Mind/Being. Although, as "we"exist on these higher levels, freed from the constraints of linear-time, it can be said that we exist "there" now also, it's all simultaneous.

However, my puny 3rd Density mind is not capable of totally and truly understanding the resolution of the paradox that "we" exist as seemingly separate entities - mind/body/spirit complexes - yet "we" are One! And I don't think that we will truly understand that resolved paradox until 6th Density.

So I see your point as a paradox and not an inconsistency.

L & L    

Jim
  

Perfectly said

[kristina]

Liken it to a tree that drops it's seed to sprout another tree....same tree, the seed drops to another (seemingly) space it will learn what it is to grow in this dirt, beside the maple and not the oak, another perspective but same tree. DNA is same, looks like a mirror image of the parent tree.
In the context that Ra is using Mind/Body/Spirit "complex" is...is within this container or vehicle (the body) is the mind and the spirit and within this illusion (3rd density) it is a human being which Ra never uses that term because it is inadequate as far as descriptions go. Animals (2nd density beings) for instance are mind/body "complexes".
You will have to keep going on with your studies and know that there will be things within the Ra Material you will not understand, however, stay with it and continue to read and things will begin to makes sense but it's gonna take some time. There will be quotes that will be ah-ha! and things that will be more like... wait, hugh?
Then you have all of these lovely people who have been aquainted with these channelings for a long time that will help clear things up for you. Welcome to the forum and I hope that we can be of assistance to you in various ways.

[Cannon]

I assume Hatonn was referring to the principle of mentalism.

[Louisabell]

In an infinite universe there cannot be many, there also cannot be nothing, and so there is one - one infinite being of infinite forms. It's a paradox of existence.

[Infinite]

Hatonn in one of his sessions with Carla says that there is only mind and that's the mind of the creator. However Ra says that we are mind body spirit complexes and there exist more than one mind. What do you think about this inconsistency?

Remember that the deepest level of the mind is the cosmic mind of the Creator. So, the source of all minds is One.

[Silk]

Hatonn in one of his sessions with Carla says that there is only mind and that's the mind of the creator. However Ra says that we are mind body spirit complexes and there exist more than one mind. What do you think about this inconsistency?

This inconsistency, as many more, is due to semantics. Some call the Creator "spirit", others "mind", others "consciousness", others "the original Thought". Ask a native American and you'll get a wholly different response from a Kybalionist. Hatonn, as others, speak through the biases and linguistic understandings/limitations of the channeler. Hatonn is also just 4D, which plays an additional role in these limitations.

L/Leema (May 18, 1986)

You are not your mind. Your mind is a kind of information processor which works for you as a tool. It is well to understand that the mind has great value in your seeking. The mind has been earned. It is a product of many, many incarnations, and it reflects your biases.

Latwii (June 22, 1980)

The mind is (...) an amalgam of the effects that a wealth of experiences in various incarnations have had upon the basic spiritual personality. This mind is a collection of biases, emotions and feelings. Depending upon the uses to which the mind has been put in prior incarnations, it may consist of [a] large intellectual factor or little intellect.

Q'uo (March 16, 1986)

...nothing less than the one original Thought which is the Creator. You may call this Creator “Universal Mind,” yet that is not precise, for the mind proceeded and precipitated from the Thought which was thought without mind, but only with consciousness.

It is well to study the etymology of these words as most key words are grossly distorted over time and lose their original intended meaning, leading to all these semantic disagreements.