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      Merging with God
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 08-03-2022, 08:03 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    Is going into the next Octave Density the same as merging with God/Creator?

    Ra says it is timelessness of an unimaginable nature.

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      Ra Theme Park!!!
    Posted by: Sacred Fool - 08-02-2022, 02:58 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (1)

    Hey there, my fellow Forumistas!

    Let us not despair over the loss of our shared space here, but let us raise our sights much higher and work together to create something far more magnificent!

    My friends, there has been some hand wringing of late regarding the potential prostituting of the Law of One, and yet, Ra encourages us to look at each thing and its opposite.  I say, looking at the opposite offers us an opportunity create a masterpiece of devotion to Ra & company, thus allowing us to bring it all full circle, concretising the Law of One .  (Or, if bringing it full circle, then maybe it would be the Law of Zero?  Even better!)

    The obvious conclusion, therefore, is that we must build a Ra Theme Park!  (We could maybe put it in Kentucky near where the new Noah's Ark is now suing it's insurance company for damages due to excessive rain.  Yep, true story.)  After all, B4th has been a theme park of sorts, has it not?  So, why not now take it to the next logical stage?

    We'll have over-sized walking puppets depicting The Questioner, The Instrument and The Scribe which will greet people and pose for photos.  Gosh, we would need a landing pad and have replicas of alien space craft.  Of course, we'd have a pyramid and re-enact the initiation process.  Also, we could have galactic battles re-enacted between 4d+ and 4D- forces.

    There would have to be a wax museum showing the scene of the Ra channeling with all the symbolic imagery and all kinds of other stuff (maybe Rasputin, Genghis Khan and Taras Bulba?)........................  Just IMAGINE the possibilities.

    So, please add your own inspirations below.  We will need them all.

    Thanks so much, and I'm starting this off with an idea for transportation around the Theme Park.  Below is a Red Green video of how to make a hybrid saucer-like craft for very cheap!  Thanks again!



    May we all enjoy our ride through the universe..........






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      Session 10.7-8 the stakes to be considered.
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-29-2022, 09:26 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - No Replies

    This one is quite scary:



    Quote:Questioner: When Maldek was destroyed, did all people of Maldek have the problem or were some advanced enough to transfer to other planets?

    Ra: I am Ra. In the occurrence of planetary dissolution none escaped, for this is an action which redounds to the social complex of the planetary complex itself. None escaped the knot or tangle.

    Questioner: Is there any danger of this happening to Earth at this time?

    Ra: I am Ra. We feel this evaluation of your planetary mind/body/spirit complex’s so-called future may be less than harmless. We say only the conditions of mind exist for such development of technology and such deployment. It is the distortion of our vision/understanding that the mind and spirit complexes of those of your people need orientation rather than the “toys” needing dismantlement, for are not all things that exist part of the Creator? Therefore, freely to choose is your honor/duty.


    What strikes me here is that when things happen in our lives in a more mundane sense, and we think "Why didn't the spirits stop this?" That they have other pressing things that they have to consider. The contact/ confederation has been making sure our entire planet does not get destroyed and become an asteroid belt like Maldek.

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      Session 46.9 Polarity and anger.
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-28-2022, 07:05 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

    Hey, looking a bit around negative polarity information from LOO. Most of it has an annoying quality of focusing on the other wordly sci fi space beings aspect of it. While I think a lot of relevant wisdom is simply how the polarity acts in the mundane world for the rest of us:



    Quote:When the abuse is finally called out, the abusers use gaslighting, DARVO, blame-shifting, guilt-tripping, pity ploys and other manipulation tactics. In doing so, they often get the target to become confused and deceived into carrying this burden that is not their own. The abusers continue to transfer their sins on to others through trickery, and somehow this seems to buy them time.


    They learned these tactics from the demons who animate them.


    Abusers can only postpone their inevitable demise by misplacing the blame on their targets, who accept the unearned guilt through confusion, fear and self-doubt.


    https://meredithmiller.substack.com/p/th...of-tyranny


    My emphasis. I think that while the LOO highlighted certain focuses on the negative polarity as 'transcient', in as how they relate to the more mundane aspect, i.e. people you might meet at work or in your family. It is important to recognise that there are things we need to be aware of in order to not be deceived!




    Quote:Questioner: Certainly.

    Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

    Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

    The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

    Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.


    Has anyone ever witnessed this? A soft spoken and passive person exploding into anger to shock people into being placed under their control?

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      Session 60.10. The naivety of Ra.
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-26-2022, 10:20 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - No Replies

    Quote:Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.

    Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.

    We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.

    We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.

    At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you. However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.


    Daily meditation to discourage that paragraph at the end there!


    And:



    Quote:Questioner: Thank you. Then as an overall success, what can you tell me about the relative success of the pyramid in any way at all? I understand that it was— the pyramids for the purpose were basically unsuccessful in that they didn’t produce the rise in consciousness that you’d hoped for, but there must have been some success. Can you tell me of that?

    Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to remember that we are of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow. When one has been rescued from that sorrow to a vision of the One Creator, then there is no concept of failure.

    Our difficulty lay in the honor/responsibility of correcting the distortions of the Law of One which occurred during our attempts to aid these entities. The distortions are seen as responsibilities rather than failures; the few who were inspired to seek, our only reason for the attempt.

    Thus, we would perhaps be in the position of paradox in that as one saw an illumination, we were what you call successful, and as others became more sorrowful and confused, we were failures. These are your terms. We persist in seeking to serve.



    I wonder then if the sixth density entities 'upon our plane' are also naive?


    It makes me wonder a little if the contact is partly responsible for a lot of the 'narcissism' teaching we see. Even though some of this behaviour is obviously orange ray entities I think sixth density entities due to "naivety" could be caught in a few different ways and become narcissistic. As an example, one of these might be that the sixth density entity being naive, and misperceiving those around it as like the home density, sees other people as more loving than they are then if they are in a high testosterone body might simply demand this of people that did not offer love through their own free will. Another way this could happen is the naivety in not seeing what people are like, and falling prey to manipulators, and not seeing that the association is deleterious, becoming an enabler and lying for the manipulator. Also, being in the way of the karma that is going to the manipulator.


    Thus one way some of them are learning this is to become teachers on these areas.


    What do you think?

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      Session 66.10: Misconstrued responsibility
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-25-2022, 05:30 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    Interesting phrasing, as though the contact had watched this happen:



    Quote:Questioner: What is the difference, philosophically, between a mind/body/spirit complex healing itself through mental, shall I say, configuration or it being healed by an healer?

    Ra: I am Ra. You have a misconception. The healer does not heal. The crystallized healer is a channel for intelligent energy which offers an opportunity to an entity that it might heal itself.

    In no case is there an other description of healing. Therefore, there is no difference as long as the healer never approaches one whose request for aid has not come to it previously. This is also true of the more conventional healers of your culture and if these healers could but fully realize that they are responsible only for offering the opportunity of healing, and not for the healing, many of these entities would feel an enormous load of misconceived responsibility fall from them.


    Do we think this same sense of misconstrued responsibility can be applied to a lot of things on earth?


    And another bonus line just because it's awesome:

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the greatest healer is within the self and may be tapped with continued meditation as we have suggested.

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      A mega help in understanding reincarnation. Session 71.7
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-23-2022, 02:04 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    Don here asked again about negative time/ space and Ra just ignored him lol. But I just read this and it gave me a MEGA insight:


    Quote:Questioner: Is the process in positive time/space identical with the process in negative time/space for this healing?

    Ra: I am Ra. The process in space/time of the forgiveness and acceptance is much like that in time/space in that the qualities of the process are analogous. However, while in space/time it is not possible to determine the course of events beyond the incarnation but only to correct present imbalances. In time/space, upon the other hand, it is not possible to correct any unbalanced actions but rather to perceive the imbalances and thusly forgive the self for that which is.

    The decisions then are made to set up the possibility/probabilities of correcting these imbalances in what you call future space/time experiences. The advantage of time/space is that of the fluidity of the grand overview. The advantage of space/time is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.

    This is MEGA to me. This means that we cannot have a completely different incarnation next time we incarnate. It explains why as David Wilcock had talked about, people are basically the same when they reincarnate.


    We basically keep all our 'unbalanced actions'. So basically, we change fairly slowly. If I were to die today I would have to come back down with all the problems I currently have. Although I'm sure there are things that can be tweaked in life planning. Perhaps the intensity of the lessons. Things are basically as they were.


    So I will be roughly as spiritual a person when I come down for my next incarnation as I was last time! And any narcs I happen to know if they were to die today will be just as narcissistic in the next life as well!


    It also explains part of what I have been doing here. One of the things I have had to work on has shown up very precisely in my human design chart! I have also had a lot of general sensations about what I need to change in order to be in a better state in my next incarnation!


    This is another line from the previous answer that explains a bit as well:


    Quote:Depending upon this time/space locus there will be certain helpers which assist in this healing process. The process involves seeing in full the experience, seeing it against the backdrop of the mind/body/spirit complex total experience, forgiving the self for all missteps as regards the missed guideposts during the incarnation and, finally, the careful assessment of the next necessities for learning. This is done entirely by the higher self until an entity has become conscious in space/time of the process and means of spiritual evolution at which time the entity will consciously take part in all decisions.


    This does basically agree with the Michael Newton material. I have always had the sense in dealing with material like that that the spirits lie to us. But the thing with the Michael Newton material is that he did basically hypnotise people into a state deep enough where they can't lie and they did all come out with very detailed information that correlated with each bit of it.


    Thoughts? Do you agree with this interpretation?

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      6D negative wanderers
    Posted by: Rolci - 07-14-2022, 03:52 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (13)

    Questioner: Are there any examples of sixth-density negatively polarized Wanderers in our historical past?

    Ra: I am Ra. This information could be harmful. We withhold it.

    I understand the reason for this. My concern is, if it's a 6D negative wanderer, my guess would be for them to have done something BIG. Like leave behind a body of work that looks positive but is sprinkled with hard-core negativity between the lines, like the "shoulds" in the Ten Commandment, just magnitudes more profound. Whenever I think of these lines by Ra, the thing that pops into my head is Islam, and the Koran, and Muhammad. For no reason I should add as I know nothing about any of these 3. But I would imagine a 6D negative SOMETHING LIKE creating a whole new religion that will elicit extremism even in the most devout (or rather ESPECIALLY in the most devout) of the followers, who may become terrorists or something similar, or an "elite". But just as I am writing this I am thinking of the Crusades so it might as well be Christianity, or in fact any religion, so it would be founders of religions.

    Does this make sense to anyone? Can this be a fruitful line of questioning, even though Ra have refused to comment? Yes, we should see all as the Creator, I get it. But for some reason I have always felt a need to understand methods of enslavement so I can help others see and recongize when it happens and be able to resist when they are being manipulated.

    Thanks for any insight.

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      17.29 "Those not in incarnation"
    Posted by: Phoenix - 07-11-2022, 02:30 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    I am reading the bible a lot at the moment and Jesus says a few times there that the dead will be raised on the last day. I think that would be exciting but I am not sure about it obviously. I also heard David Wilcock say recently that the negative forces can kill people and bring them back to life with technology!


    Quote:Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.


    What do you think this will look like? Will Jesus like figures walk into graveyards and just raise the dead and then we all go for a massive party? Or do you think for those not in incarnation the harvest will happen in time/ space?

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      Accountability in the LOO.
    Posted by: Phoenix - 06-22-2022, 05:00 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (1)

    I have noticed this society seems to keep bringing up reasons why people are not accountable for themselves for this or that behaviour. But in this excerpt it seems to me that Ra advises the laws of karma are less forgiving than we would naturally assume in this regard:


    Quote:Questioner: As an entity in this density grows from childhood, he becomes more aware of his responsibilities. Is there an age below which an entity is not responsible for his actions, or is he responsible from the time of birth?

    Ra: I am Ra. An entity incarnating upon the Earth plane becomes conscious of self at a varying point in its time/space progress through the continuum. This may have a median, shall we say, of approximately fifteen of your months. Some entities become conscious of self at a period closer to incarnation, some at a period farther from this event. In all cases responsibility then becomes retroactive from that point backwards in the continuum so that distortions are to be understood by the entity and dissolved as the entity learns.

    Questioner: Then an entity, say, four years old would be totally responsible for any actions that were against or inharmonious with the Law of One. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It may be noted that it has been arranged by your social complex structures that the newer entities to incarnation are to be provided with guides of a physical mind/body/spirit complex, thus being able to learn quickly what is consonant with the Law of One.

    A lot of people believe that if they have certain personality disorders this absolves them from karma. This is something that is not clear to me, since if someone had full blown autism or downs syndrome it seems to me unlikely they are karmically responsible. But I would not think a four year old would be either. So it is one of those things that makes you think!

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