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    08-01-2011, 10:56 AM (This post was last modified: 08-01-2011, 10:59 AM by Kiko.)
    “The service of a lightworker is sometimes a difficult service to offer, as it requires our being incarnate on planet Earth, but it is well worth the sacrifice. Cast your deep mind back, and recapture that feeling you had before incarnation when all was so much clearer. All of us wanderers were eager to come and serve. This is our moment to do so, this brief time of living and being part of Earth. May we serve together with beauty, style, grace and joy.” Carla Rueckert-McCarty

    Hi. I thought it worth quoting the above as it puts things into perspective for me. My service is and has always been difficult, but worth the effort even if I don't fit, am misunderstood, and misunderstand. The lot of a wanderer is more often than not confusion, and thus not so different from those who are not aware of being wanderers.

    I think it both a curse and a blessing that we may remember so much and yet prove nothing - even if we are able to do so. The greatest lesson is that each being has to learn at their own pace, in their own 'time'. And each of us have an eternity in which to do so, even if it seems that we do not.

    I hope to contribute something useful to one or many, and am already gaining much from your sharing. Don't be mysterious, and have fun!
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    08-01-2011, 01:00 PM
    Hi Kiko, and welcome to the forum.
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    08-01-2011, 03:04 PM
    nice name.
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    08-01-2011, 05:56 PM
    (08-01-2011, 10:56 AM)Kiko Wrote: “The service of a lightworker is sometimes a difficult service to offer, as it requires our being incarnate on planet Earth, but it is well worth the sacrifice. Cast your deep mind back, and recapture that feeling you had before incarnation when all was so much clearer. All of us wanderers were eager to come and serve. This is our moment to do so, this brief time of living and being part of Earth. May we serve together with beauty, style, grace and joy.” Carla Rueckert-McCarty

    Hi. I thought it worth quoting the above as it puts things into perspective for me. My service is and has always been difficult, but worth the effort even if I don't fit, am misunderstood, and misunderstand. The lot of a wanderer is more often than not confusion, and thus not so different from those who are not aware of being wanderers.

    I think it both a curse and a blessing that we may remember so much and yet prove nothing - even if we are able to do so. The greatest lesson is that each being has to learn at their own pace, in their own 'time'. And each of us have an eternity in which to do so, even if it seems that we do not.

    I hope to contribute something useful to one or many, and am already gaining much from your sharing. Don't be mysterious, and have fun!
    You do not need to hope to contribute, your presence here alone is contributing more than you can see, and is immensely appreciated by all. Thank you for being here, and taking the time to co-create this time to communicate your unique experience will all of us. Welcome to the forum, and much love, light and respect to you!


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    08-01-2011, 06:33 PM
    What a wonderful quote! Thank you for this reminder. Welcome to the forum, brother/sister!
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    08-01-2011, 06:41 PM
    Welcome to the community, Kiko. I would like to comment on what you posted, but frankly I don't understand you. Sorry.

    Just kidding! BigSmile

    Quoting Carla was brilliant. All of us should read that from time to time. Thanks for being here and being one of us!
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    08-02-2011, 02:50 AM
    Thank you all for your welcome. It is good to know that there are others who are aware of being wanderers and who have similar experience, even if we are scattered far and wide.
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    Hey Kiko, welcome! and thanks for sharing that quote Carla made.
    since you mention being misundastood, let me add that remark that Ra once made :
    "Understanding is not of this density".
    Enjoy your stay here!
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    08-02-2011, 03:47 AM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2011, 03:55 AM by Kiko.)
    (08-02-2011, 02:53 AM)Meerie Wrote: "Understanding is not of this density"

    For certain! Though after many attempts in my life to understand and be understood, I finally learned that it is ok not to understand, but just see more clearly by letting go.
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    08-02-2011, 04:36 AM
    welcome to this home away from home.

    good to hear your ideas


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    08-06-2011, 03:11 PM
    Welcome Kiko! I share your thoughts, thanks for being here at this time. L/L
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    08-06-2011, 03:27 PM
    Thank you all for your welcome! Much love.
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    08-06-2011, 05:38 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2011, 01:46 AM by Kiko.)
    I decided to post this in my own Hello thread so that it will show as new in case anyone is interested. It may sound strange, but here goes.

    In case it might be of any use to another on their path, I am very aware that my 'core being', the 'me' that is more than just the man people see in the street, is of Ra or some similar level of being.

    Let me say right away that I have no concept as a human of levels of being in terms of 'importance'. In other words, the numbers attributed to 3D, 4D, 5D and so on are of no importance to me and never have been. I think our ego/mind almost always attaches importance to some hierarchy or other, as it is a natural consequence of our social and cultural conditioning. The conditioning never did take with me, confounding many people around me as I grew up.

    Since early childhood I knew other worlds, other lives, and drew and painted them for my parents, teachers and so on. I drew my 'invisible friends', told people who they were, drew light-ships but told people that they were not ships in the sense people think of. Some now speak of 'thought form' ships as well as 'material' ships. Mine are both and neither at the same time (if that makes any sense).

    In trying to fit in I worked so hard to be a normal person. That makes me laugh now! I never was. (So, if you feel weird and different, welcome to the club and know that you are very much not alone). Some of my family members experienced what I shall call 'side effects' from experiences I had; reality changing and not seeming real, and so forth. In later years and since my greater awakening, I have found myself a catalyst for others who seek a different level of being. Unfortunately, this has led in some instances to attempted worship of myself, or outright fear when things thought about as 'fun and wonderful' proved to be very real indeed. I am now much more careful in what I share and who I share with, and in being so, life moulds itself to providing only those experiences between myself and others which are of benefit.

    My 'invisible friends' have been seen and physically touched by many, though usually only upon request. Without request they have been seen by those who have clear sight, and sometimes in a surprising manner. By which I mean that they discovered that they had clearer sight than they at first thought. That is always fun, as they in the moment will see far more than I do at the time, me being focused on some ordinary daily task.

    So, how and why do I identify myself as being of Ra? In my human state it is simply a matter of putting two and two together. My memories are of many worlds, and in this one in particular, of being here in what people call ancient Egypt. Very ancient, and not as the history books say. There were huge ships of ours in the sky, and many loving, carefully crafted programs of teaching going on. I was one of those who came to share knowledge and promote love and understanding.

    I recall technologies which we would not call technology, but the name suffices in the context of current life here and now. Sadly, the human need to aspire to power led to a breakdown in the programme of teaching and learning as some people decided to try and usurp perceived power for their own ends. It was a disaster which led to our withdrawal. In my human state right now I read that Ra mentioned this, citing it as one of the main reasons for not 'interfering' in these times.

    So, wow! Claiming to be of Ra, huh?! Yes, that kind of human perception is what stopped me from writing about it. But I am no different to anyone walking around pushing a shopping trolley in the supermarket. I read somewhere today that those of Ra have been/are incarnating here in these times, so I feel easier posting these thoughts. Others reading this may identify themselves as of Ra or similar, and why not? The main thing is to examine our memories and our intentions towards others, and decide whether our ego is having a field trip or whether we feel genuinely of another level of being and are here to serve with humility.

    If in reading this you are not aware of being a wanderer, and have the thought, "Why, if these people know who and what they are, do they not make huge changes?" The simple answer is freedom of choice. Almost all of us remain quietly in the background. Why do not any of us initiate sudden global change or 'ascension'? All I can say is that a) I/we are living as you do, b) it is your/our choice. It will all happen in your sweet time. And sweet it will be!
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    08-06-2011, 07:15 PM
    That was some interesting reading. Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed the open-ness you shared your thoughts with.
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    08-06-2011, 07:59 PM
    I'm fairly certain that the majority of wanderers on earth are of Ra. The more polarized, the more access to pre-veil memory, although that memory is still necessarily vague and distorted. As they said "It, however, constitutes a great calling which we of all creation feel and hear as if our own entities were distorted towards a great and overwhelming sorrow. It demands our service."

    Interestingly, Ra was also aided by sixth-density entities while in their Venusian 3D incarnation. But those entities must have come from another solar system (probably nearby), since this system was too young for life to have developed sufficiently, prior to that time. I'm wondering if those entities seeded life in this system in the first place.

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    08-06-2011, 08:00 PM
    Late but not to late !

    Welcome !!!

    I like your style of expressing yourself, all the best !
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    08-07-2011, 01:23 AM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2011, 01:58 AM by Kiko.)
    (08-06-2011, 07:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I'm fairly certain that the majority of wanderers on earth are of Ra. The more polarized, the more access to pre-veil memory, although that memory is still necessarily vague and distorted.

    Part of me is laughing at the craziness of it all, and most of me feels relief at all of you being so kind. If what you say is so, Zenmaster, then I suppose I am polarized++, though it is not an easy thing. When I was young others 'spotted me at once' and I suffered much punishment just for seeming very different (I did not look odd in any way at all). Even now it happens, although people are loath to pick on a big guy who seems different though they cannot pin down why!

    My memories came in dribs and drabs until I asked to remember wholesale, and then had experiences where I was flooded with masses of perfect recall so intense that it left me shaking and crying. And afterwards, very sad for this state of being and the cruelty of others in the world. What is it Carla called it, "Brothers and sisters of sorrow"? An apt name I think.

    zenmaster Wrote:As they said "It, however, constitutes a great calling which we of all creation feel and hear as if our own entities were distorted towards a great and overwhelming sorrow. It demands our service."

    Heck, exactly so.

    My thanks for all kind and accepting thoughts, especially when some reading my scribble may have thought, "Well yeah, duh!" I have been reading these forums for a while before joining in, but had no idea until these past few days that many know they are of Ra and similar groups. Erm... high five, ladies and gents!
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    08-07-2011, 03:20 AM
    But do you honestly need validation at this point? If you're from Ra, you're actually not even that alienated, since you're used to the same archetypal influence. i.e. the Tarot is applicable in a thematic manner, as a mythology. I've worked with a few that have suffered from lack of 'racial memory' integration, due to being from a different system entirely. That is the more profound estrangement, and a more daring 'wanderer' IMHO. To be honest, I see many just sort of 'give up' and don't see a place to express their familiar mode of being. 'Fitting in', in an acceptable manner, is an interesting choice because it involves an acceptance of something necessarily alien, but also legitimate 'way'. There was obviously something 'perfect' (in time/space anyway) about this particular situation that led to the incarnation decision.


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    08-07-2011, 03:56 AM
    (08-07-2011, 03:20 AM)zenmaster Wrote: But do you honestly need validation at this point?

    I think I hear a wise old soul here. Yes, I would say that I have always wanted some form of validation, of acceptance. I got little or nothing in that way from the family I grew up in, only their remembered fear of strange events. That has an effect on a developing ego, of course. Nowadays I do not think I seek validation so much as the comfort of knowing I am not alone in the 'human' sense. Perhaps there are still vestiges of immaturity - I do not know or care to analyse too much.

    Quote:If you're from Ra, you're actually not even that alienated, since you're used to the same archetypal influence. i.e. the Tarot is applicable in a thematic manner, as a mythology.

    You know, I have never examined the Tarot in any way, even though some friends use it as a method of divination and so forth. I can do silly things like split a deck, pick out the Emperor card, shuffle split and re-pick the same one, shuffle split and re-pick the same one, and so on all day. But it does not mean anything to me. I have no idea why, but I would be interested to hear how you think the Tarot is applicable as a theme.

    Quote:I've worked with a few that have suffered from lack of 'racial memory' integration, due to being from a different system entirely. That is the more profound estrangement, and a more daring 'wanderer' IMHO.

    Interesting, and you have possibly given me a useful insight. I have a friend who I can see going through the same painful relationship issues over and over again, as she did with me (and boy did I learn a lot through that!) She always said that she was "from where you are from", and I always knew she was not. And by 'where from' I mean not one place, one world, but more a state of being; a kind of wanderer, if that make sense. But now I am realising that she is more likely a wanderer who perhaps has no bearings at all, even amongst wanderers. Her ego/mind expresses things in terms of 'who is best', and I think you have given me a clue how to rethink my communications with her, so my thanks.

    Quote:To be honest, I see many just sort of 'give up' and don't see a place to express their familiar mode of being. 'Fitting in', in an acceptable manner, is an interesting choice because it involves an acceptance of something necessarily alien, but also legitimate 'way'. There was obviously something 'perfect' (in time/space anyway) about this particular situation that led to the incarnation decision.

    I could never 'fit in', and it was always so obvious throughout my life here, painfully so more often than not. I expected things to work the way I felt they should, but when I showed others how 'things worked' it led to mass panic in those around me - yes, literally! As to giving up, the only way I could see of giving up was to end my life, but I laughed at that idea as I know how foolish it is. Yes, there is something 'perfect' about it all, and while I cannot see it clearly in my human thought state, I know in my moments of clarity and oneness that it is so. That gives me great comfort, and I express my thoughts in the hope that some of what I say may comfort others too.
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    08-07-2011, 02:10 PM
    (08-07-2011, 03:56 AM)Kiko Wrote:
    (08-07-2011, 03:20 AM)zenmaster Wrote: But do you honestly need validation at this point?

    I think I hear a wise old soul here. Yes, I would say that I have always wanted some form of validation, of acceptance. I got little or nothing in that way from the family I grew up in, only their remembered fear of strange events. That has an effect on a developing ego, of course. Nowadays I do not think I seek validation so much as the comfort of knowing I am not alone in the 'human' sense. Perhaps there are still vestiges of immaturity - I do not know or care to analyse too much.
    Can relate.

    (08-07-2011, 03:56 AM)Kiko Wrote:
    Quote:If you're from Ra, you're actually not even that alienated, since you're used to the same archetypal influence. i.e. the Tarot is applicable in a thematic manner, as a mythology.

    You know, I have never examined the Tarot in any way, even though some friends use it as a method of divination and so forth. I can do silly things like split a deck, pick out the Emperor card, shuffle split and re-pick the same one, shuffle split and re-pick the same one, and so on all day. But it does not mean anything to me. I have no idea why, but I would be interested to hear how you think the Tarot is applicable as a theme.
    The tarot depicts the main themes or structure of how our unconscious is manifested according to the local plan. Divination or card games is not as interesting as becoming familiar with the manner in which our condition provides for our evolution. That is, making the process of evolution a conscious thing so that we may provide ourselves choices which would otherwise be unavailable.

    (08-07-2011, 03:56 AM)Kiko Wrote:
    Quote:I've worked with a few that have suffered from lack of 'racial memory' integration, due to being from a different system entirely. That is the more profound estrangement, and a more daring 'wanderer' IMHO.

    Interesting, and you have possibly given me a useful insight. I have a friend who I can see going through the same painful relationship issues over and over again, as she did with me (and boy did I learn a lot through that!) She always said that she was "from where you are from", and I always knew she was not. And by 'where from' I mean not one place, one world, but more a state of being; a kind of wanderer, if that make sense. But now I am realising that she is more likely a wanderer who perhaps has no bearings at all, even amongst wanderers. Her ego/mind expresses things in terms of 'who is best', and I think you have given me a clue how to rethink my communications with her, so my thanks.
    Interesting allegory to externalize evaluation in that manner, but we all do it to a certain extent. I wonder what terms and conditions are necessarily applied.


    (08-07-2011, 03:56 AM)Kiko Wrote:
    Quote:To be honest, I see many just sort of 'give up' and don't see a place to express their familiar mode of being. 'Fitting in', in an acceptable manner, is an interesting choice because it involves an acceptance of something necessarily alien, but also legitimate 'way'. There was obviously something 'perfect' (in time/space anyway) about this particular situation that led to the incarnation decision.

    I could never 'fit in', and it was always so obvious throughout my life here, painfully so more often than not. I expected things to work the way I felt they should, but when I showed others how 'things worked' it led to mass panic in those around me - yes, literally! As to giving up, the only way I could see of giving up was to end my life, but I laughed at that idea as I know how foolish it is. Yes, there is something 'perfect' about it all, and while I cannot see it clearly in my human thought state, I know in my moments of clarity and oneness that it is so. That gives me great comfort, and I express my thoughts in the hope that some of what I say may comfort others too.
    I guess if the world (outer and inner) is imagined as inherently whole, then it's easier to recognize incongruencies as due to perceived lack and separation. For all of those actually asking for consolation, I would like to ingrain the image of Hercules whining about a stubbed toe.

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    08-07-2011, 04:00 PM
    (08-07-2011, 02:10 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The tarot depicts the main themes or structure of how our unconscious is manifested according to the local plan. Divination or card games is not as interesting as becoming familiar with the manner in which our condition provides for our evolution. That is, making the process of evolution a conscious thing so that we may provide ourselves choices which would otherwise be unavailable.

    Interesting. I may do some research on the subject, as I have had no interest in it at all so far.

    zenmaster Wrote:Interesting allegory to externalize evaluation in that manner, but we all do it to a certain extent. I wonder what terms and conditions are necessarily applied.

    I thought about this on and off today, and realised that of course my friend is externalising things in one way, and myself another. I do not think the difference in opinion matters now that I consider it, and it had not been for some time until I made a connection from what you posted. It is perhaps only that recent contact due to a request for help has brought things to mind again which are not particularly important, but thank you for cause to reflect.
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    08-07-2011, 04:16 PM
    (08-07-2011, 04:00 PM)Kiko Wrote:
    (08-07-2011, 02:10 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The tarot depicts the main themes or structure of how our unconscious is manifested according to the local plan. Divination or card games is not as interesting as becoming familiar with the manner in which our condition provides for our evolution. That is, making the process of evolution a conscious thing so that we may provide ourselves choices which would otherwise be unavailable.

    Interesting. I may do some research on the subject, as I have had no interest in it at all so far.
    According to the material, Ra claims authorship of the major arcana archetypes 2.6 billion years ago. They later related this core info to the ancient egyptians, as a teaching aid. To attempt to understand the various relationships necessarily requires some self-reflection as to what is actually going on with this concept we call 'mind'. I always suspected that since mind is primary to matter, 1D 'archetypal principles' could also be derived from this understanding in manner such that these insights inform a new, more comprehensive physical theory.
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    08-08-2011, 04:13 AM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2011, 10:56 AM by Kiko.)
    (08-07-2011, 04:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: According to the material, Ra claims authorship of the major arcana archetypes 2.6 billion years ago. They later related this core info to the ancient Egyptians, as a teaching aid. To attempt to understand the various relationships necessarily requires some self-reflection as to what is actually going on with this concept we call 'mind'. I always suspected that since mind is primary to matter, 1D 'archetypal principles' could also be derived from this understanding in manner such that these insights inform a new, more comprehensive physical theory.

    Even more interesting. My memories of ancient Egypt are clear and I see myself performing tasks with human beings where all learned various things. I can also remember building complexes, clothing styles, the large and small ships (essentially the same thing on different scales), our technologies, and so on. I have no memory of Tarot though. Not that this fact is important or particularly relevant.

    I am away on holiday in a few days, but will make time to look up the arcana soon. One question comes to mind, which is; have the archetypes changed over the millennia so as to dilute the information contained in the Tarot? Obviously, these days people produce new Tarot sets for their own pleasure, or to re-invent the medium to appeal to more people. Archetypical detail and information need not necessarily be affected by how it is portrayed, but I wonder.

    I have begun a new thread for this topic on this page as it may outgrow this thread.
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    08-08-2011, 09:26 PM
    (08-08-2011, 04:13 AM)Kiko Wrote: One question comes to mind, which is; have the archetypes changed over the millennia so as to dilute the information contained in the Tarot?
    No, because the archetypes exist outside of duration. Actually that applies to any archetypal principle.

    (08-08-2011, 04:13 AM)Kiko Wrote: Obviously, these days people produce new Tarot sets for their own pleasure, or to re-invent the medium to appeal to more people. Archetypical detail and information need not necessarily be affected by how it is portrayed, but I wonder.
    I have about 6 decks, including the one referenced in the Ra Material, but only use a new Rider deck. The pictures are just memory aids more than anything, but what they each suggest is unchanging and reliable.

    "The adept has already worked much, not only within the red, orange, yellow, and green energy centers but also in the opening of blue and indigo. Up through this point the archetypes function as the great base or plinth of a builded structure or statue keeping the mind complex viable, level, and available as a resource whenever it may be evoked. There is a point at which the adept takes up its work. This is the point at which a clear and conscious consideration of the archetypical mind is useful."

    The idea is to shed light on the conditions under which you, as logos, are participating. The 'great internal blueprint' can be revealed.
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    Welcome to the forum. Smile
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