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    07-21-2015, 06:42 PM
    Quote:Ra viewed the Secret Space Program as a hostile, service-to-self, weapon-and-defense-based industry that was hampering the progress of positive service-to-others Harvest/Ascension.  But clearly the quarantine of Earth and Earth’s skies doesn’t seem to apply to this breakaway civilization of humans who’ve developed secret advanced technology through contact with other service-to-self extraterrestrial races – well at least as long as they hide their activities from observation, which also seems to serve an agenda of securing even more power.


    Ultimately, Ra viewed this information as inconsequential to the pursuit of spiritual personal growth in regards to Harvest/Ascension and The Law of One.  From Ra’s perspective, information relating to Intelligent Infinity and the higher densities is more significant than the warlike activities taking place in the lower densities.  Where these activities impinge upon the freewill of mankind and our ability to access Intelligent Infinity, I tend to disagree with Ra.

    I’m planning on writing a more in-depth analysis of the implications of a Secret Space Program, asking the questions few people seem to be asking. I have already discussed some aspects of service-to-self ET/ED races in relation to the Harvest/Ascension and the Ra Material in my post.

    https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2015/04/...e-program/

    My guess is that the secret technology will cause an, maybe not intended by the secret space program, catastrophic event. The increased UFO activities is probably an indication for a big event in the near future.

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    07-21-2015, 08:33 PM
    I think there's an important distinction here that I don't know if the author of this caught. Ra didn't necessarily view this technology as being "service to self." In fact, in the session it is discsussed, Ra says that the technology is used in a way to that prevents or inhibits polarization towards either service to self or service to others. 

    Quote:Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation whereby neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.

    Potential destructive use doesn't necessarily imply service to self. Destruction can be the result of confused polarity as well.
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    07-21-2015, 08:47 PM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2015, 08:54 PM by Lighthead.)
    (07-21-2015, 08:33 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I think there's an important distinction here that I don't know if the author of this caught. Ra didn't necessarily view this technology as being "service to self." In fact, in the session it is discsussed, Ra says that the technology is used in a way to that prevents or inhibits polarization towards either service to self or service to others. 


    Quote:Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation whereby neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.

    Potential destructive use doesn't necessarily imply service to self. Destruction can be the result of confused polarity as well.

    But in that portion that you underlined, I always thought that Ra was talking about the lack of polarization of the masses that results from these actions. If what I'm saying is true, then the real source of these government operations are most likely 5th density negative adepts. They try to prevent people from polarizing so that they themselves can gain in polarization. That's exactly what happened with the neg adept trying to prevent the LOO material from coming through.

    This is also a little different from those of Orion that try to increase neg polarization [edit: of 3D entities] to increase their ranks with new recruits.

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    07-21-2015, 09:50 PM
    (07-21-2015, 08:47 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (07-21-2015, 08:33 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I think there's an important distinction here that I don't know if the author of this caught. Ra didn't necessarily view this technology as being "service to self." In fact, in the session it is discsussed, Ra says that the technology is used in a way to that prevents or inhibits polarization towards either service to self or service to others. 



    Quote:Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation whereby neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.

    Potential destructive use doesn't necessarily imply service to self. Destruction can be the result of confused polarity as well.

    But in that portion that you underlined, I always thought that Ra was talking about the lack of polarization of the masses that results from these actions. If what I'm saying is true, then the real source of these government operations are most likely 5th density negative adepts. They try to prevent people from polarizing so that they themselves can gain in polarization. That's exactly what happened with the neg adept trying to prevent the LOO material from coming through.

    That makes sense. I initially thought that keeping this technology a secret is really not the most effective service to self use for it. Hiding away power doesn't seem to be effective for either polarity, but re-reading the passage where this is discussed, Ra does seem to hint that they are mainly keeping it a secret in order to use it as a ploy to get more power.
    Quote:The technology your peoples possess at this time is capable of resolving each and every limitation which plagues your social memory complex at this present nexus of experience. However, the concerns of some of your beings with distortions towards what you would call powerful energy cause these solutions to be withheld until the solutions are so needed that those with the distortion can then become further distorted in the direction of power.

    I think that does seem to imply that the withholding of this technology is the result of a service to self power grab, but results in all-around less polarization for the society itself.
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    07-21-2015, 09:52 PM
    Hello,
     
    I think since such thread was created, it is proper to present an entire Session where Ra spoke about this matter. It is included into Book V, pages 16 – 20.
     
    Quote:Session 8, January 26, 1981
     
    Questioner: There was a portion of the material from yesterday which I will
    read where you say “there is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some
    of these landings are of your own people; some are of the group known to
    you as Orion.” My first question is what did you mean that some of the
    landings are of your peoples?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the
    technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create
    and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying
    objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your
    peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for
    potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your
    social memory complex, causing a situation where neither those oriented
    towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the
    energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social
    memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.
     
    Questioner: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call
    planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of
    the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions
    or structures.
     
    The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in
    your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in
    various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases
    upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being
    reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if
    you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples,
    very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.
     
    Questioner: Where do the people who operate these craft come from? Are
    they affiliated with any nation on Earth. What is their source?
     
    Ra: These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from
    the Creator.
     
    As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in
    your and other selves’ governments responsible for what you would term
    national security.
     
    Questioner: Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft
    in undersea bases?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. You are correct.
     
    Questioner: How did the United States learn the technology to build these
    craft?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people
    by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion
    and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by
    mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional
    complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the
    case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the
    technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt,
    approximately twenty seven of your years ago, to share information and
    bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information
    were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to
    aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid.
    That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date,
    even as the need is power upon power greater, and your peoples’ call is
    greater and greater.
     
    Questioner: I’m puzzled by these craft which have undersea bases. Is this
    technology sufficient to overshadow all other armaments? Do we have the
    ability to just fly in these craft or are they just craft for transport? What is
    the basic mechanism of their power source? It’s really hard to believe is what
    I’m saying.
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The craft are perhaps misnamed in some instances. It would
    be more appropriate to consider them as weaponry. The energy used is that
    of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The
    weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples
    psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The
    amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable
    and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and
    to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time.
     
    Questioner: How have they been able to keep this a secret? Why aren’t
    these craft in use for transport?
     
    Ra: The governments of each of your societal division illusions desire to
    refrain from publicity so that the surprise may be retained in case of hostile
    action from what your peoples call enemies.
     
    Questioner: How many of these craft does the United States have?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The United States has 573 at this time. They are in the process
    of adding to this number.
     
    Questioner: What is the maximum speed of one of these craft?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The maximum speed of these craft is equal to the Earth energy
    squared. This field varies. The limit is approximately one-half the light
    speed, as you would call it. This is due to imperfections in design.
     
    Questioner: Would this type of craft come close to solving many of the
    energy problems as far as transport goes?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The technology your peoples possess at this time is capable of
    resolving each and every limitation which plagues your social memory
    complex at this present nexus of experience. However, the concerns of some
    of your beings with distortions towards what you would call powerful
    energy cause these solutions to be withheld until the solutions are so needed
    that those with the distortion can then become further distorted in the
    direction of power.
     
    Questioner: You also said that some of the landings at this time were of the
    Orion group. Why did the Orion group land here? What is their purpose?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. Their purpose is conquest, unlike those of the Confederation
    who wait for the calling. The so-called Orion group calls itself to conquest.
     
    Questioner: Specifically, what do they do when they land?
     
    Ra: There are two types of landings. In the first, entities among your
    peoples are taken on their craft and programmed for future use. There are
    two or three levels of programming. First, the level that will be discovered
    by those who do research. Second, a triggering program. Third, a second
    and most deep triggering program crystallizing the entity thereby rendering
    it lifeless and useful as a kind of beacon. This is a form of landing.
     
    The second form is that of landing beneath the Earth’s crust which is
    entered from water. Again, in the general area of your South American and
    Caribbean areas and close to the so-called northern pole. The bases of these
    people are underground.
     
    Questioner: The most startling information that you have given me, which
    I must admit that I’m having difficulty believing, is that the United States
    has 573 craft of the type which you described. How many people of United
    States designation are aware of these craft, including those who operate
    them?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The number of your peoples varies, for there are needs to
    communicate at this particular time/space nexus so that the number is
    expanding at this time. The approximate number is 1,500. It is only
    approximate for as your illusory time/space continuum moves from present
    to present at this nexus many are learning.
     
    Questioner: Where are these craft constructed?
     
    Ra: These craft are constructed one by one in two locations: in the desert or
    arid regions of your so-called New Mexico and in the desert or arid regions
    of your so-called Mexico, both installations being under the ground.
     
    Questioner: Am I to believe that the United States actually has a
    manufacturing plant in Mexico?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. I spoke thusly. May I, at this time, reiterate that this type of
    information is very shallow and of no particular consequence compared to
    the study of the Law of One. However, we carefully watch these
    developments in hopes that your peoples are able to be harvested in peace.
     
    Questioner: I am totally aware that this line of questioning is of totally no
    consequence at all, but this particular information is so startling to me that
    it makes me question your validity on this. Up until this point I was in
    agreement with everything you had said. This is very startling to me. It just
    does not seem possible to me that this secret could have been kept for
    twenty-seven years, and that we are operating these craft. I apologize for my
    attitude, but I thought that I would be very honest. It is unbelievable to me
    that we would operate a plant in Mexico, outside of the United States, to
    build these craft. Maybe I’m mistaken. These craft are physical craft built by
    physical people? Could I go get in one and ride in one? Is that correct?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. You could not ride one. The United States,
    as you call your society divisional complex, creates these as a type of
    weapon.
     
    Questioner: There are no occupants then? No pilot, shall I say?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
     
    Questioner: How are they controlled?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. They are controlled by computer from a remote source of
    data.
     
    Questioner: Why do we have a plant in Mexico?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The necessity is both for dryness of the ground and for a near
    total lack of population. Therefore, your so-called government and the socalled
    government of your neighboring geographical vicinity arranged for an
    underground installation. The government officials who agreed did not
    know the use to which their land would be put, but thought it a
    governmental research installation for use in what you would call
    bacteriological warfare.
     
    Questioner: Is this the type of craft that Dan Frye was transported in?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Daniel was, in thought-form, transported
    by Confederation thought-form vehicular illusion in order to give this
    mind/body/spirit complex data so that we might see how this type of
    contact aided your people in the uncovering of the intelligent infinity
    behind the illusion of limits.
     
    Questioner: The reason that I have questioned you so much and so
    carefully about the craft which you say the United States government
    operates is that if we include this in the book it will create numerous
    problems. It is something that I am considering leaving out of the book
    entirely, or I am going to have to question you in considerable detail about
    it. It’s difficult to even question in this area, but I would like to ask a few
    more questions about it with the possible option of leaving it in the book.
    What is the diameter of the craft which the United States has?
     
    Ra: I am Ra. I suggest that this be the last question for this session. We will
    speak as you deem fit in further sessions, asking you to be guided by your
    own discernment only.
     
    The approximate diameter, given several model changes, is twenty-three of
    your feet, as you measure.

     
    Above presents “state of things” in 1981 – 34 years ago. I wonder sometimes what is current state of affairs in this regard.
     
    Among many astonishing information that was revealed in this Session (some unbelievable), one stayed within me and I do think of it sometimes.
    I’ve bolded this information in above quote, when Ra spoke about ”bases of Our People in the sky. I wonder what kind of technology permits (as I assume) such large structures to be constantly in the air/sky.
     
    In some way it is simply fascinating and I would like to learn about such technology and to use it to Aid Other-Selves. Unfortunately there are People who do anything to prevent that, as They would experience in such case “loss of power” (so low motives…).
     
    I’m also wondering what is actual technological advancement of nowadays Groups of People mentioned by Ra.
    I mean, after all those years, They should be able to done things, that for “regular, Earth Being” would be consider as an “impossiblement”. Even if some-One would find Him/Her Self under the influence of such technology, One would never (I suspect) recognize init “Human Hand”.
    Without the actual knowledge and understanding of the technology, it may appear as “magic” / “miracle” / or even “Divine Intervention”. Thus, potential capability of manipulation and influence is significant.

     

    I would like emphasize something at this point:

    For me personally, above is nothing more but “intriguing oddity” that is quite useless, as I have not means of verifying this information. In my own analysis of The Law of One I’ve omitted this kind of information completely and I’ve focused on Ra’s Words that were informing about Consciousness and the Nature of Reality / Creation.
     
    Although I admit, that at my first read this Session was so unbelievable for me, that at first it makes me reject the Whole. However later on, I’ve focused on Ra’s point-of-view that regards such type of information as “shallow”, and therefore not-essential to The Law of One It-Self. In time such perception/evaluation was only reinforcement within me.
     
    To express it shortly: All this technology is nothing in comparison to the Intelligent Infinity and the Qualities of the Consciousness which overwhelmingly overmatching any, possible technology that may be developed within this material Universe.
     
     
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    07-21-2015, 10:06 PM
    (07-21-2015, 09:50 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:
    Quote:The technology your peoples possess at this time is capable of resolving each and every limitation which plagues your social memory complex at this present nexus of experience. However, the concerns of some of your beings with distortions towards what you would call powerful energy cause these solutions to be withheld until the solutions are so needed that those with the distortion can then become further distorted in the direction of power.

    I think that does seem to imply that the withholding of this technology is the result of a service to self power grab, but results in all-around less polarization for the society itself.

    Exactly. I notice that there are a lot of ones here on Bring 4th that haven't really contemplated how STS works. That's not necessarily a bad thing (and it's not necessarily good, either). I think that since most people on here incline to STO, they're less likely to really ponder over what Ra has said about STS. When I had my "fling" with STS, I tried to go real deep in my understanding of STS. Not to say that I know more about it than everybody here, just that the whole realm of STS is a real study in and of itself. I personally think that the whole topic of negative adepthood is a really fascinating one. The topic is covered in-depth in the Psychic Greeting category on the lawofone.info site.

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    07-21-2015, 10:10 PM
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    I'm actually curious to know if there's anybody at the very top that uses this exotic technology to further polarize. I'm positive that if it is being used this way, it's to polarize negatively.

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    07-22-2015, 09:23 AM (This post was last modified: 07-22-2015, 09:23 AM by Matt1.)
    I think what Ra is referring to with the lack of polarization with the hidden or occult technology is that its used only by a very small group of super elite. Its not accessible to normal people who might wish to use it for positive or negative polarization. The very act of keeping this technology hidden is most likely to be used by this small group for negative polarization. I would further add that i am currently aware of three different sources of this type of exotic technology. The first being Nazi Germany through the Vril society UFOS in the 30s, the second being Tesla's paper work being taken by the US Government after his death in 1943 and the 3rd being the Roswell Crash in 1947. All of this was quite a long time ago, almost 70 years now. If they had the accessible technology for space travel or anything else then i am sure they would have put it to good use.

    My theory and the theories of others is that we have a break off civilization that probably exists on the Moon and Mars, Ra confirms that groups were rebuilding bases. As well as confirming the Nazi's as a Orion Contact. Although Ra didn't answer anything directly about Roswell it speaks for itself. My belief is that these black op style projects went underground and off the radar as the Military industrial complex became privatized, thus its doubtful that any one in Government has directly or at least full knowledge of whats going on. A famous example would be Bill Clinton asking about UFOS to the intelligence services and being told not to go there. I remember i heard that Steven Greer of the Disclosure project had a meeting with CIA types and found out that they didn't even know what was really going on with the subject. It seems like all the goodies are off planet now although paid with the hard work and time of the normal people who have been ripped off.

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