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    Adonai One (Offline)

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    02-17-2016, 08:57 AM
    Quote:8.13 Questioner: Specifically, what do they do when they land?

    Ra: There are two types of landings. In the first, entities among your peoples are taken on their craft and programmed for future use. There are two or three levels of programming. First, the level that will be discovered by those who do research. Second, a triggering program. Third, a second and most deep triggering program crystallizing the entity thereby rendering it lifeless and useful as a kind of beacon. This is a form of landing.

    The second form is that of landing beneath the Earth’s crust which is entered from water. Again, in the general area of your South American and Caribbean areas and close to the so-called northern pole. The bases of these people are underground.

    Thoughts?
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    02-17-2016, 09:08 AM (This post was last modified: 10-20-2019, 09:12 AM by earth_spirit.)
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    02-17-2016, 09:25 AM
    (02-17-2016, 09:08 AM)earth_spirit Wrote: I had been wondering about this, thanks for making a topic about it.

    I think possession, especially rendering an entity "lifeless and useful as kind of a beacon" would be impossible without a preincarnative choice on the possessed entity's part to allow this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_0

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    02-17-2016, 10:49 AM
    Possession is always at will, but it can severely alter how we act and how others treat us.

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    02-17-2016, 10:53 AM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2016, 10:53 AM by Adonai One.)
    I think we should mention that an entity has freewill at 4 years old according to Ra. The mentally disabled have freewill. The naive have freewill.

    It's not so much "you asked for it, deal with it." It's more like sh--t happens and let's do our best to be fully informed in our decisions.

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    02-17-2016, 11:24 AM
    Not to quibble, but to further prove your point, Ra says the median age where one becomes responsible for their choices is fifteen months. Barely a year old.

    The experiment is interesting though because it shows the type of energy vacuum that is created when one does abjugate their freewill so entirely to another. Temptation coupled with freedom from responsibility can be bad.
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    02-17-2016, 11:40 AM
    (02-17-2016, 08:57 AM)Adonai One Wrote:
    Quote:8.13 Questioner: Specifically, what do they do when they land?

    Ra: There are two types of landings. In the first, entities among your peoples are taken on their craft and programmed for future use. There are two or three levels of programming. First, the level that will be discovered by those who do research. Second, a triggering program. Third, a second and most deep triggering program crystallizing the entity thereby rendering it lifeless and useful as a kind of beacon. This is a form of landing.

    The second form is that of landing beneath the Earth’s crust which is entered from water. Again, in the general area of your South American and Caribbean areas and close to the so-called northern pole. The bases of these people are underground.

    Thoughts?

    My understanding is that it can only be done to unpolarized beings for the most part.  

    As "mistaken Orion contact with highly polarized positive entities can wreak havoc with Orion troops unless these Crusaders are able to depolarize the entity mistakenly contacted. This occurrence is almost unheard of. Therefore, the Orion group prefers to make physical contact only with the weaker-minded entity."

    At some level there is free will involved and the more polarized you are, the stronger your will, thus you are less likely to just "give it up".
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    02-17-2016, 01:58 PM
    I wonder what kind of havoc contact with highly polarized entities might wreak?

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    02-17-2016, 02:06 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2016, 02:07 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Is it wreck havoc or wreak havoc?

    I do believe that being in the presence of a highly polarized being will make your subconscious stuff rise to the surface.

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    02-17-2016, 02:08 PM (This post was last modified: 10-20-2019, 09:12 AM by earth_spirit.)
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    02-17-2016, 03:27 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2016, 03:32 PM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    It's worth mentioning that this is one of those oddball responses that isn't prefixed by "I am Ra." Not that we'll ever know for certain, but there's been some speculation those without the ID may be distorted, even interfered-with, and potentially not reliable. I'd tend to think that's even more likely in this particular case, since we know from later sessions that Ra had a hard time talking about highly-transient matters like the behaviors of human governments and "conspiracy theory" style material.

    Just something to consider.

    And as far as polarization goes, I think Ra intended to specify positively-polarized. Because it's not just a matter of willpower. As I understand it, a heavily-positive entity is actively radiating Green Ray\Love to everything around it, and that's pretty much kryptonite to heavily-negative entities. It can actively repel them in pretty much the same way as magnets can repel each other. Or, alternately, just being exposed to it can be depolarizing for less strongly-polarized negatives.

    (And vice versa, if it's a weakly-polarized pos near to a strongly-polarized neg.)

    Simply being polarized positively to a sufficient extent should be enough to render a person nearly immune to overt negative interference (or, again, vice-versa) except in the most totally unusual of circumstances. The repulsion effect would be great enough to make it nearly impossible for them to even exchange enough information\energy to interact in any significant way.

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    02-17-2016, 03:32 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2016, 03:36 PM by tamaryn.)
    I have been looking in to entity attachment lately. I've been violently entered by 'dark' entities, Have had cheerily powerful demon visitations - Oh hey you can see the weak point of every one of my transgressions from timelessness? Hah that's unsettling but I think I would rather choose Love.

    Word from a clairvoyant is something like 80% of the population has some type of entity opening them to influences outside of their awareness. Making them this the very beacon you speak of in time/space.

    The problem is we feed the attached entities with any free will choice of ours that does not integrate all of our parts back to wholeness. If we decide to distract ourselves, If we decide to give power to powerlessness we are allowing them inside our Aura.

    I do know we are given a power much greater than theirs - equal to or greater in light strength. If we can call upon the unequivocal power of Love and the unequivocal power of Fearlessness - This opens our field to the assistance of the archangel Michael who will match your will and banish entities back to the realm of Transformation - if we so ask.

    The other issue is encapsulating the entities in a vehicle they can inhabit and feed on (a piece of your old pattern) while they travel to the Womb of transformation. Unequivocal trust is another requirement as well as a commitment to leave that pattern behind and never open yourself in that way again, instead replacing it with a creative, healthy program - Perhaps Love.

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    02-17-2016, 04:51 PM
    Hmmm. Wreak havoc to a certain degree. I had an experience before where I looked out my window, after feeling a presence. I saw an orb of light come down from the sky, but it was dark so I couldn't see physically what was outside after that. However, in front of me I felt a being just outside. I started going numb and was shaking slightly as I watched for a minute. I would describe it as if you were in the wilderness and were confronted with a lion. I left the room and continued with my day regaining my normal senses and went on with my day. I also have a video of this, but you could only confirm the light in the beginning. Now, fear could color a visitation as negative if positive; however, after a different experience a few weeks later I would say it was probably a negative polarized being outside the window, since the other experience I had full control of my thoughts.

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    02-17-2016, 05:55 PM
    (02-17-2016, 04:51 PM)Brian_Sanchez Wrote: Hmmm. Wreak havoc to a certain degree. I had an experience before where I looked out my window, after feeling a presence. I saw an orb of light come down from the sky, but it was dark so I couldn't see physically what was outside after that. However, in front of me I felt a being just outside. I started going numb and was shaking slightly as I watched for a minute. I would describe it as if you were in the wilderness and were confronted with a lion. I left the room and continued with my day regaining my normal senses and went on with my day. I also have a video of this, but you could only confirm the light in the beginning. Now, fear could color a visitation as negative if positive; however, after a different experience a few weeks later I would say it was probably a negative polarized being outside the window, since the other experience I had full control of my thoughts.

    I'm interested!

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    02-21-2016, 10:54 AM
    I thought this video documentary on the subject is appropriate:


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