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    03-16-2013, 01:51 AM (This post was last modified: 03-16-2013, 01:53 AM by Adonai One.)
    Let's say you die and go into indigo-ray time/space and you are tired of incarnating for whatever reason... I don't even know if it is possible for your higher-self to think in this manner but anyways: Can you merge with the One Infinite Creator at any time if you get tired of the mind/body/spirit experience? I know this sounds tantamount to spiritual suicide with quite possibly a loss to the Creator. However, is it possible? I know it is possible for a spirit to decay and become so damaged as to only remain remnants of what it once was that inevitably merge back with the creator; however, is it possible to merge back into the creator in one full swoop? Would any soul reasonably want this?

    Also, what authority keeps us on 1st-6th density curriculum? Is it possible to skip densities? I know it's possible descend densities as Jesus did.

    Ra explains "seniority" briefly but I am still a bit unclear on the specifics:

    Quote:48.7 Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, starting before birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation—which body is activated, the process of becoming incarnate, the activation of the third-density physical body, the process as the body moves through this density and is acted upon by catalysts, the process of death, and the activation of the various bodies so that we make a full circuit from a point prior to incarnation back around through incarnation and death; you might say one cycle of incarnation in this density. Could you do that for me?

    Ra: I am Ra. Your query is most distorted for it assumes that creations are alike. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own patterns of activation and its own rhythms of awakening. The important thing for harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. This is to be noted as of relative import. We grasp the thrust of your query and will make a most general answer stressing the unimportance of such arbitrary generalizations.

    The entity, before incarnation, dwells in the appropriate, shall we say, place in time/space. The true color type of this location will be dependent upon the entity’s needs. Those entities, for instance which, being Wanderers, have the green, blue, or indigo true-color core of mind/body/spirit complex will have rested therein.

    Entrance into incarnation requires the investment or activation of the indigo-ray or etheric body for this is the form maker. The young or small physical mind/body/spirit complex has the seven energy centers potentiated before the birthing process. There are also analogs in time/space of these energy centers corresponding to the seven energy centers in each of the seven true-color densities. Thus in the microcosm exists all the experience that is prepared. It is as though the infant contains the universe.

    The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

    Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

    Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.

    48.8 Questioner: Who supervises the determination of further incarnation needs and sets up the seniority list for incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is a query with two answers.

    Firstly, there are those directly under the Guardians who are responsible for the incarnation patterns of those incarnating automatically, that is, without conscious self-awareness of the process of spiritual evolution. You may call these beings angelic if you prefer. They are, shall we say, “local” or of your planetary sphere.

    The seniority of vibration is to be likened unto placing various grades of liquids in the same glass. Some will rise to the top; others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities will ensue. As harvest draws near, those filled with the most light and love will naturally, and without supervision, be in line, shall we say, for the experience of incarnation.

    When the entity becomes aware in its mind/body/spirit complex totality of the mechanism for spiritual evolution it, itself, will arrange and place those lessons and entities necessary for maximum growth and expression of polarity in the incarnative experience before the forgetting process occurs. The only disadvantage of this total free will of those senior entities choosing the manner of incarnation experiences is that some entities attempt to learn so much during one incarnative experience that the intensity of catalyst disarranges the polarized entity and the experience thus is not maximally useful as intended.

    48.9 Questioner: An analogy to that would be a student in college signing up for more courses than he could possibly assimilate in the time they were given. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
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    03-16-2013, 03:34 AM
    I have been considering the tree of life, there are three paths to Kether. Positive, negative and middle. I believe the middle path (directly from Tifereth, across the abyss Daath) may be the "loss" or extinction you mention.

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    03-16-2013, 04:12 AM
    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: Can you merge with the One Infinite Creator at any time if you get tired of the mind/body/spirit experience?

    Merging with the One Infinite Creator is always possible as a mind/body/spirit complex. There is no "shortage" to infinite energy; hence, the concept of "tiredness" has no meaning to Intelligent Infinity. You, as a mind/body/spirit complex, if tired, may endlessly rest in time/space before resuming your activities, if so needed.

    Quote:Is it possible to skip densities?

    What is the point of creating a stairway if you are not going to use it to walk the steps? The Creator created the Creation for the purpose of knowing itself in a progressive, sequential, cumulative fashion. This is what allows the experience of growth, development, and evolution. The purpose of it all is experience. Once the Creator's intelligent estimate of a method of knowing itself is satisfied, the Creation shall coalesce back into the un-potentiated Creator once again.

    Quote:I know this sounds tantamount to spiritual suicide with quite possibly a loss to the Creator.

    There are no losses. There is only the One Infinite Creator. It cannot be lost unto Itself, only apparently so (and even that appearance is an illusion). Suicide implies escapism. And nothing escapes the Creator =P

    Quote:Also, what authority keeps us on 1st-6th density curriculum?

    Your own authorship as the Creator which you are.

    Quote:I know it's possible descend densities as Jesus did.

    It's called "wandering."
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    03-16-2013, 05:30 AM
    I think once you leave your physical body and return to the metaphysical side of reality, you'll find it quite natural to rest and reflect...and then you'll do what you desire to do next.

    Why complicate it with so many nit picky questions? Not saying you shouldn't, but rather challenging you to try simplifying the mystery of your own seeking so it isn't so tricky, lol.

    My bias obviously. Smile
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    03-16-2013, 10:15 PM
    (03-16-2013, 05:30 AM)Turtle Wrote: I think once you leave your physical body and return to the metaphysical side of reality, you'll find it quite natural to rest and reflect...and then you'll do what you desire to do next.

    Why complicate it with so many nit picky questions? Not saying you shouldn't, but rather challenging you to try simplifying the mystery of your own seeking so it isn't so tricky, lol.

    My bias obviously. Smile

    Yea I agree. I'm pretty sure once you shed your body and the veil lifts, you'll probably say this is all pretty silly in the grand scheme of things.
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    03-18-2013, 09:02 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2013, 10:11 PM by anagogy.)
    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: Let's say you die and go into indigo-ray time/space and you are tired of incarnating for whatever reason... I don't even know if it is possible for your higher-self to think in this manner but anyways: Can you merge with the One Infinite Creator at any time if you get tired of the mind/body/spirit experience?

    You basically are always merged with the creator. You are a the creator having a dream of individuality. To wake up, you have to stop dreaming or imagining the distortions that make up this reality. The process of seeing through these distortions equals the progress through the densities. The faster you let go of the dream, the faster you wake up to the reality of that which you really are.

    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: I know this sounds tantamount to spiritual suicide with quite possibly a loss to the Creator. However, is it possible?
    I know it is possible for a spirit to decay and become so damaged as to only remain remnants of what it once was that inevitably merge back with the creator; however, is it possible to merge back into the creator in one full swoop?

    I doubt its possible in the "whammo insto chango" sort of way. Wink

    But who knows. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it is possible to have a massive surge of truth/light rip through your soul and dissolve all illusory perception in one fell swoop. Perhaps that is what enlightenment is.

    Nothing can be lost however, as Siren already mentioned.

    Quote:63.8 [...] Ra: It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. [...]

    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: Would any soul reasonably want this?

    A soul that was still under the effects of the veil could very well want this. A positively polarized soul on the other side of the veil would probably not. They revel in the journey of enlightenment. They are here for the ride towards enlightenment, not necessarily the destination of enlightenment.

    Growth is the unique experience separation offers.

    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: Also, what authority keeps us on 1st-6th density curriculum? Is it possible to skip densities? I know it's possible descend densities as Jesus did.

    In a sense we are that authority. We chose to enter the dream of individuality, and now we are trying to see through the dream. And on the topic of skipping densities:

    Quote:82.25 Questioner: I don’t grasp too well the condition of incarnation and the time in between incarnations prior to the veil. I do not understand what was the difference other than the manifestation of the third-density, yellow-ray body. Was there any mental difference upon what we call death? I don’t see the necessity for what we call the review of the incarnation if the consciousness was uninterrupted. Could you clear up that point for me?

    Ra: I am Ra. No portion of the Creator audits the course, to use your experiential terms. Each incarnation is intended to be a course in the Creator knowing Itself. A review or, shall we say, to continue the metaphor, each test is an integral portion of the process of the Creator knowing Itself. Each incarnation will end with such a test. This is so that the portion of the Creator may assimilate the experiences in yellow-ray, physical third density, may evaluate the biases gained, and may then choose, either by means of automatically provided aid or by the self, the conditions of the next incarnation.

    I take the bolded part to imply we cannot skip densities.

    I don't think it is possible to skip vibrational levels, personally. However, you can pass through them very quickly if efficient use of catalyst is made. It's like turning a radio dial. You can turn it quickly, or slowly, but you must pass through the frequencies. No portion of the creator audits the course.

    A Ra quote comes to mind:

    Quote:20.27 Questioner: I will make this assumption, then: if maximum efficiency had been achieved in this 25,000-year period the entities would have polarized either toward service toward self or service to others, one or the other. This would have then made them harvestable at the end of that 25,000-year period to either service-to-self or service-to-others type of fourth density, in which case they would have had to move to another planet because this one would have been in third density for fifty more thousand years. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us untangle your assumption which is complex and correct in part.

    The original desire is that entities seek and become one. If entities can do this in a moment, they may go forward in a moment, and, thus, were this to occur in a major cycle, indeed, the third-density planet would be vacated at the end of that cycle.

    It is, however, more toward the median or mean, shall we say, of third-density developments throughout the one infinite universe that there be a small harvest after the first cycle; the remainder having significantly polarized, the second cycle having a much larger harvest; the remainder being even more significantly polarized, the third cycle culminating the process and the harvest being completed.

    So you see, the faster you can let go of the dream, the faster you can see the reality of what we really are.

    (03-16-2013, 01:51 AM)Adonai-1 Wrote: Ra explains "seniority" briefly but I am still a bit unclear on the specifics:

    Basically, souls with the most polarity get first dibs on incarnations providing the best catalyst. They have the most likelihood of using that catalyst for growth.
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    03-18-2013, 09:35 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2013, 09:44 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    There is an author named Nanci Danison who had a near death experience, and says in her book that she nearly merged completely with Source. So it's possible to go all the way. You lose your identity though in that state.

    Man, life is tricky. Since I've learned about the Law of One, some portions of my life have gotten more complex. Many times I kept thinking I was climbing the steps of light while alive. I think the polarity I was carrying, or where I stood preincarnationally in terms of priority of harvest went to my brain and caused me temporary insanity a number of times. One time culminating in a psychotic break.

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