Angels, Spirits, etc can kiss my [redacted].

[kristina]

A gentle reminder....
You are within an illusion, meaning, in our wobbly words, this is not reality.  You are already One but cannot know it as you are in this illusory space/time. I don't know about you, however, I love this world. The horse, the dog, the cat, the flower and the tree. The colors are so vibrant and sometimes the conversation so rich! I say, know what you know now and deal with what comes about later. In other words, live for each moment as it unfolds and if you are at the appointed time leaving this plane of existence, you will be experiencing nothing but another moment. Wanderers could be very ingenious in the art of staying grounded in what is called The Eternal Now but you may have to apply yourself just as everyone upon this beautiful planet applies hardwork.
Kristina

Yes, I've often said similar things. I also love this world, which is why I don't want to just ascend out of it in some grand flash of ascension. I love food and plants and animals and the colors and the sky and water and wind and all these silly little mortal things. It's fun. Sure, sometimes it's miserable, but I also find life very fun and if I disappeared I wouldn't be able to help anyone anymore.

This forum doesn't seem to suffer nearly as much as many Facebook groups do from the "I want to go home" complex, though, I think most of us are good and oriented towards service in the now.

I absolutely agree! I feel much like yourself!

[DungBeetle]

I have no respect for them if they exist. They pick and choose who to reveal themselves to, well they always ignore me. So fk them. They are no different than our current power structure. Only the select few get the privilege. That is all.

I used to carry this really big resentment that they didn't automatically help me... so strong - that I refused to ask them for help - because I was so angry that the setup was that I was required to ASK...
but onetime someone explained to me that's the whole point - the protocol... they require our permission and our consciously asking them to come and assist us...
because otherwise it would be infringement

and positive entities don't infringe

it's freewill based thing

once you ask... do so with no expectations

being respectful will need to be your energy or they'll stay a step back until you respect... but respect yourself also and them

open to love and to help

I understand your feeling pissed off and abandoned and in pain

pm me if you like  

"once you ask... do so with no expectations"

I have that part mastered from day 1. All asholery aside, I get what your saying. Thanks

[Relax]

you're welcome

it's not that we can't have "expectations" - more that, specific expectations may cloud our perceiving/receiving of what is offered to us.

Because we're 'under' the 'veil'; anger, desperation, despair, are very valid reactions to our frustration of intensely knowing there's more to 'all this' - but blocked from what that actually is.

Additionally, that Wanderers incarnate with families/peers/life events that can be extremely toxic, even spiritually/psychologically lethal... our resentment is so understandable.

Remembering (or meditating on) that we chose (ffs! ) to come to this density voluntarily can help to shift our life energy from powerless - to courageous explorer and helper of my Self other Selves working with catalyst to choose polarity.

I fluctuate between wanting to scold my "Higher Self" when I get back Home - to being deeply impressed that who I really Am is so brave, strong, caring - It/I volunteered to come here!

0_0

shifting victim status energy is a hard journey - but freeing... ever since I started feeling compassion for myself and all I've endured; my self care- self respect increased and daily life is much easier.

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[Diana]

A gentle reminder....
You are within an illusion, meaning, in our wobbly words, this is not reality.  You are already One but cannot know it as you are in this illusory space/time.

To think one part of this existence is real and another not is separation. This is reality now. This may be a part of a whole, but all parts of the whole are real. There may be a larger picture, but that does not mean this part is not real. If one part has been created, it's all created. If there is a OIC, being the source of all this creation, and we create each moment here with our decisions, it's all creation.

For example, many New Agers say we are a soul, not a body. But we are both (assuming souls exist). The body may be more ephemeral, but that doesn't mean it's any less real in the moment.

I don't know about you, however, I love this world. The horse, the dog, the cat, the flower and the tree. The colors are so vibrant and sometimes the conversation so rich!

I agree. But I also know that there is so much suffering here. Many who come to this forum are suffering. Definitely staying connected with the natural world is important and can bring one back to point.

I say, know what you know now and deal with what comes about later. In other words, live for each moment as it unfolds and if you are at the appointed time leaving this plane of existence, you will be experiencing nothing but another moment.

I agree with this too.

Wanderers could be very ingenious in the art of staying grounded in what is called The Eternal Now but you may have to apply yourself just as everyone upon this beautiful planet applies hardwork.
Kristina

I so agree that we have to put in the work. Sometimes even taking a little action breaks inertia. Stagnant waters become toxic.

The planet is beautiful, but humanity is not. Many people are still in survival mode, having to deal with no job, not enough money to live comfortably (and far worse that goes on here). One may be focused on a beautiful deer grazing on tree leaves, and the next moment that deer is shot by a hunter who just likes killing animals and will hang the deer head on a wall (after the deer goes through horrible suffering). Obviously I don't mean all humans, but we are a far cry from a compassionate world at this point.

What are your ideas on staying focused on the beauty? And do you think it's possible to maintain that focus?

[kristina]

A gentle reminder....
You are within an illusion, meaning, in our wobbly words, this is not reality.  You are already One but cannot know it as you are in this illusory space/time.

To think one part of this existence is real and another not is separation. This is reality now. This may be a part of a whole, but all parts of the whole are real. There may be a larger picture, but that does not mean this part is not real. If one part has been created, it's all created. If there is a OIC, being the source of all this creation, and we create each moment here with our decisions, it's all creation.

For example, many New Agers say we are a soul, not a body. But we are both (assuming souls exist). The body may be more ephemeral, but that doesn't mean it's any less real in the moment.

I don't know about you, however, I love this world. The horse, the dog, the cat, the flower and the tree. The colors are so vibrant and sometimes the conversation so rich!

I agree. But I also know that there is so much suffering here. Many who come to this forum are suffering. Definitely staying connected with the natural world is important and can bring one back to point.

I say, know what you know now and deal with what comes about later. In other words, live for each moment as it unfolds and if you are at the appointed time leaving this plane of existence, you will be experiencing nothing but another moment.

I agree with this too.

Wanderers could be very ingenious in the art of staying grounded in what is called The Eternal Now but you may have to apply yourself just as everyone upon this beautiful planet applies hardwork.
Kristina

I so agree that we have to put in the work. Sometimes even taking a little action breaks inertia. Stagnant waters become toxic.

The planet is beautiful, but humanity is not. Many people are still in survival mode, having to deal with no job, not enough money to live comfortably (and far worse that goes on here). One may be focused on a beautiful deer grazing on tree leaves, and the next moment that deer is shot by a hunter who just likes killing animals and will hang the deer head on a wall (after the deer goes through horrible suffering). Obviously I don't mean all humans, but we are a far cry from a compassionate world at this point.

What are your ideas on staying focused on the beauty? And do you think it's possible to maintain that focus?

Diane I feel the pain too. I just hope that the answer is understood as my answer and it may not resonate with you. We are all such individualists and this experience is unique to each of us. I can give you my own comfort measures, ok? Based upon my experience. I hope this will be ok or perhaps could help in some way.
I live my life in faith. Faith that all things are as they should be and each portion of the Creator is utilizing the Catalyst before them.
Unfortunately, in this particular illusion (it's the only one I am aware of for now, lol), there is suffering. This one has little eat, this one is beaten, this one is unloved and the list is on and on. These are all catalyst that each may use for their spiritual growth if one wishes. And I have a firm understanding of that.
I meditate, not constantly but I meditate at least 5 days per week, I comtemplate as often as I wish, I study the Law of One, I do for others anytime that I can and I always seek the beauty in life. I have come to understand that I am witnessing preincarnate choices of each person and I respect their choice to work out their spiritual journey as they wish. I never forget that this is a choice even under the veil of sleeping. The veil doesn't only apply to them but it applies to me as well and I have suffered a great deal throughout my life and only through seeking have I managed thus far. And it was through will and faith that I am able to see it the way it is. Like all others, I have had to utilize my catalyst and am still utilizing though, like anyone else, if I am able to catch it. My most handy tool is meditation. My next handy tool is prayer then third is contemplating. I read about the Law of One, I listen to the inner voice, I play in this creation, I honor others as I honor myself; but I never allow myself to forget why we are here, to grow. I feel if I meditate, we all reap the rewards of the meditation, if I heal we will all heal, if I love we all love, if I seek we all are seeking and vice versa. It starts with me and like a pebble hitting a pond, the ripple goes out and reaches the shoreline.

[kristina]

From The Camelot Journals by Jim McCarty (Carla's husband)

April 1



Cost And Fruit



I am of the principle of the consciousness of divine love and I greet you in radiant joy.



It is the season of Easter, the time when Jesus' emergence from the earth is held in remembrance and His ascent therefrom rejoiced at. Now is the season of blooming, for just as Jesus grew like a flower from the earth, so too may we see in each flower that resurrection glory.



[In this season may you find much to rejoice at, never regretting the cost of winter but glorying instead in the fullness and promise of spring. Such are the cycles of eternal life. The cycles contain different kinds of blooming and different kinds of growing, but always the pulse of cost and fruit.]



We leave you in the peaceful harmony of Jesus the Christ, now and ever. Amen.

[flofrog]

I am so glad I found the Law of One, and this way everyone here too

[ScottK]

I have no respect for them if they exist. They pick and choose who to reveal themselves to, well they always ignore me. So fk them. They are no different than our current power structure. Only the select few get the privilege. That is all.

I *love* your thread title. Funny. Honest.

I think you're well into the majority of spiritual seekers who are somewhat frustrated. Maybe that's part of the plan you created for yourself? Maybe you will make contact at a later point in your life when the timing is right? Or maybe you won't. No biggie either way.

But how do you know you are not being influenced by those in spiritual realms with things like dreams, daydreams, thoughts that pop into your head at random times, when you look up seemingly randomly, etc? Learning to either trust or reject your intuition?

I know for me, the strongest "contact" that I have had has been in a dream that I remember vividly from 10 years ago, and an "intuitive knowing" I had on the 18th green of my country club at the time. Both were strongly related to the path I was on, and were both kind of a push to make sure I did what I needed to do. And then later, ironically, I got the message that "psychic ability was not important for me" - hilarious.

That was my early forties when that came in. And I don't get much now that I can discern. But there was never anything like - "Hi, my name is Bob, and I'll be your spiritual guide for this incarnation".

Looking back on things, as I look at how my life unfolded, I think there was influence from spirit to make sure that my life didn't get too good - to make it a struggle, but not too much of a struggle. Happiness leads to stagnation. Struggles create a desire for change and learning.

As you get older, you may see a grander design for your incarnation. I think psychic ability, per se, is not important at all depending on the person. For some, it is though. We all have our paths and they are all unique and infinitely important in their own way. Regardless, you still probably have a big team in the spiritual realms watching over you as you constantly and consciously evolve.

[kristina]

I have no respect for them if they exist. They pick and choose who to reveal themselves to, well they always ignore me. So fk them. They are no different than our current power structure. Only the select few get the privilege. That is all.

I *love* your thread title.  Funny.  Honest.  

I think you're well into the majority of spiritual seekers who are somewhat frustrated.  Maybe that's part of the plan you created for yourself?  Maybe you will make contact at a later point in your life when the timing is right?  Or maybe you won't.  No biggie either way.

But how do you know you are not being influenced by those in spiritual realms with things like dreams, daydreams, thoughts that pop into your head at random times, when you look up seemingly randomly, etc?  Learning to either trust or reject your intuition?

I know for me, the strongest "contact" that I have had has been in a dream that I remember vividly from 10 years ago, and an "intuitive knowing" I had on the 18th green of my country club at the time.  Both were strongly related to the path I was on, and were both kind of a push to make sure I did what I needed to do.  And then later, ironically, I got the message that "psychic ability was not important for me" - hilarious.

That was my early forties when that came in.  And I don't get much now that I can discern.  But there was never anything like - "Hi, my name is Bob, and I'll be your spiritual guide for this incarnation".  

Looking back on things, as I look at how my life unfolded, I think there was influence from spirit to make sure that my life didn't get too good - to make it a struggle, but not too much of a struggle.  Happiness leads to stagnation.  Struggles create a desire for change and learning.

As you get older, you may see a grander design for your incarnation.  I think psychic ability, per se, is not important at all depending on the person.  For some, it is though.  We all have our paths and they are all unique and infinitely important in their own way.  Regardless, you still probably have a big team in the spiritual realms watching over you as you constantly and consciously evolve.

That's an awesome story! I like Bob!
I really agree with you regarding how these entities can use our dreams as a form of communication.
I loved Dung Beetle's thread title and still laugh to this day when I see it. His nomenclature is priceless as well.

14.25 ▶ Questioner: How do you perform your normal service? How have you normally given the Law of One over the last 2,300 years? How have you normally given this [to] Earth people?

Ra: I am Ra. We have used channels such as this one, but in most cases the channels feel inspired by dreams and visions without being aware, consciously, of our identity or existence. This particular group has been accentuatedly trained to recognize such contact. This makes this group able to be aware of a focal or vibrational source of information.

14.26 ▶ Questioner: When you contact the entities in their dreams and otherwise, these entities, I assume, have to be first seeking in the direction of the Law of One. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. For example, the entities of the nation of Egypt were in a state of pantheism, as you may call the distortion towards separate worship of various portions of the Creator. We were able to contact one whose orientation was towards the One.


19.5 ▶ Questioner: When the first second-density entities became third on this planet, was this with the help of the transfer of beings from Mars, or were there second-density entities that evolved into third density with no outside influence?

Ra: I am Ra. There were some second-density entities which made the graduation into third density with no outside stimulus but only the efficient use of experience.

Others of your planetary second density joined the third-density cycle due to harvesting efforts by the same sort of sending of vibratory aid as those of the Confederation send you now. This communication was, however, telepathic rather than telepathic/vocal or telepathic/written due to the nature of second-density beings.

About dreaming and guides that can be in a sense contacted by the adept through the dreaming process:

86.7 ▶ Questioner: You stated that dreaming, if made available to the conscious mind, will aid greatly in polarization. Would you define dreaming or tell us what it is and how it aids in polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. Dreaming is an activity of communication through the veil of the unconscious mind and the conscious mind. The nature of this activity is wholly dependent upon the situation regarding the energy center blockages, activations, and crystallizations of a given mind/body/spirit complex.

In one who is blocked at two of the three lower energy centers dreaming will be of value in the polarization process in that there will be a repetition of those portions of recent catalyst as well as deeper-held blockages, thereby giving the waking mind clues as to the nature of these blockages and hints as to possible changes in perception which may lead to the unblocking.

This type of dreaming or communication through the veiled portions of the mind occurs also with those mind/body/spirit complexes which are functioning with far less blockage and enjoying the green-ray activation or higher activation at those times at which the mind/body/spirit complex experiences catalyst, momentarily reblocking or baffling or otherwise distorting the flow of energy influx. Therefore, in all cases it is useful to a mind/body/spirit complex to ponder the content and emotive resonance of dreams.

For those whose green-ray energy centers have been activated as well as for those whose green-ray energy centers are offered an unusual unblockage due to extreme catalyst, such as what is termed the physical death of the self or one which is beloved occurring in what you may call your near future, dreaming takes on another activity. This is what may loosely be termed precognition or a knowing which is prior to that which shall occur in physical manifestation in your yellow-ray third-density space/time. This property of the mind depends upon its placement, to a great extent, in time/space so that the terms of present and future and past have no meaning. This will, if made proper use of by the mind/body/spirit*, enable this entity to enter more fully into the all-compassionate love of each and every circumstance including those circumstances against which an entity may have a strong distortion towards what you may call unhappiness.

As a mind/body/spirit* consciously chooses the path of the adept and, with each energy center balanced to a minimal degree, begins to open the indigo-ray energy center, the so-called dreaming becomes the most efficient tool for polarization, for, if it is known by the adept that work may be done in consciousness while the so-called conscious mind rests, this adept may call upon those which guide it, those presences which surround it, and, most of all, the magical personality which is the higher self in space/time analog as it moves into the sleeping mode of consciousness. With these affirmations attended to, the activity of dreaming reaches that potential of learn/teaching which is most helpful to increasing the distortions of the adept towards its chosen polarity.

There are other possibilities of the dreaming not so closely aligned with the increase in polarity which we do not cover at this particular space/time.

* Should be mind/body/spirit complex. Ra and Don corrected the error in session 87.

[Relax]

but onetime someone explained to me that's the whole point - the protocol... they require our permission and our consciously asking them to come and assist us...
because otherwise it would be infringement

and positive entities don't infringe

Yeah, I explain that too.

But.. what about animals and other beings who don't have any awareness of them?

Why let animals suffer?

So they wait for a human to pray and ask for help for the animal, so they wouldn't infringe?
If it's really how it should be then I imagine the higher beings have much sorrow.. which reminds me of Ra referring to them as ''brothers and sisters of sorrow'' (or were they just 4D beings?)

Also the prayers have to be quite direct to have better effect.. I mean it's better to call upon an angel and ask specificly to heal or help this or that entity.
This makes it harder to ask for help for many beings that suffer without us knowing.

I 'wrestle' with this a lot of the time... especially what humans do to animals...

the pain of 3D Earth is obscene - and it all being for 'The One' to 'learn about Itself' seems to me actually a revolting thing...
sometimes I feel very angry, sickened by the whole set up of progression of densities which allow, through free will, torture of innocent entities

this 'place' is so extreme... just yesterday I saw a photo (via Sea Shepherd) of a dead pregnant whale who'd starved to death, was beached and her stomach filled to the brim with plastic/s she'd eaten

I take a deep breath, centre myself and envelop myself and the All That Is - in Love - AND go for a walk and pick up every piece of litter on the beach

the sorrow is suffocating

as to prayers... not worked out that whole 'thing' either ... why do some get prayed for and others overlooked? what sort of set up is this?

I do know that we should offer - not impose, so I always ask permission literally or energetically or include 'if they're in agreement' and yes a big part IS about other selves learning to reach out and ask for help/love

I find a lot of comfort in "understanding is not of this density"
we all chose to come to this world (or what ever our set up is) at probably THE most cumulatively (historically) extreme time in Earth 3D

I stay (relatively) sane by constant small actions of kindness in my daily life. Including to myself. That lovingness IS something I have agency over.

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[Relax]

Plus advanced 6D lessons are HARD.

could you elaborate?

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[AnthroHeart]

Plus advanced 6D lessons are HARD.

could you elaborate?

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Near-constant attention to making sure you don't produce any more distortions (or minimizing them).
Infinitely-subtle balancing of love/light.

You don't really have room for free thinking because it will produce distortion if it is not in alignment with the Original Thought.

Must be a mental challenge for sure. But it doesn't probably work the same that 3D does.

I've had visions of those distortions, and they're like static on the tv upon the surface of a smooth lake.

Those distortions can rock your world if a big one slams into you. It happened to me during an experience when I could feel distortions.

When you're constantly aware of them, they are a pain. It's like you're saying "I'm tired of these fricken distortion ripples."

Think of water sloshing in a bowl, and you can see how a distortion "ripple" or wave can rock back and forth getting ever smaller as it reaches stillness.
The distortion ripple will slam into the edge of the bowl, and you feel it.

We have the veil here which muffles them so we don't feel them. Though they still very much act subconsciously, and in the world.

I once had to choose between adding a new thread or posting to an existing one, and chose based on which produced the least distortion feelings to me.

These distortions are produced by ourselves through thoughts/actions that are not in alignment with Creator or One Original Thought.

In higher density (beyond 3D) you need a certain stillness to climb up through the densities. Though that may be true for 3D too.
I imagine even a very distorted 3D person can still be harvestable because of the veil they do not consciously see their distortions so it does not hold them back really.

But distortions are what make us who we are. Without them, we would just be infinite unity with no identity.

If you want to work on them here, you can always balance with the intention to balance love and light(wisdom).
Work is accelerated here in 3D.

When you still the distortions enough, you may open up and begin to feel them. I'm on meds now so I can't feel them really.

I find that as my heart and 3rd eye and throat all come into balance, it smooths out some of the distortions. They don't feel rough like in the past.
I feel it as a smooth stream coming into my softening heart chakra and 3rd eye.

[Relax]

thank you for taking time to write so much and what an interesting reply!

you're a gifted being IGW

your current lucidity and focus (via meds?) it seems helps the expressing of the ideas/concepts/realms you perceive when you're not taking your meds...

you walk a 'fine line' to balance your consciousness in 3D and you're very brave

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[AnthroHeart]

You're welcome.

Note though that the stream I feel in my heart, 3rd eye and crown are distorted love/light.
I couldn't experience 7th density pure love/light. So it is distorted for 3rd density plus my own distortions
affect what I feel.

[schubert]

I don't know about you, however, I love this world. The horse, the dog, the cat, the flower and the tree.

i too love these things

[Diana]

Why let animals suffer?

I 'wrestle' with this a lot of the time... especially what humans do to animals...

...just yesterday I saw a photo (via Sea Shepherd) of a dead pregnant whale ...
the sorrow is suffocating

It's possible that sometime along the path of the evolution of consciousness this sort of thing will make sense—that innocent beings suffer at the hands of humans—but even so, I take issue with such a system.

I don't console myself with the (in my view) human-centric idea that the animals, the plants, the insects, the planet, and all other beings here sharing this existence with humanity, have chosen to be used, tortured, and dismissed by humans who are ostensibly trying to evolve. I can't imagine how anyone can hear of the whale Relaxo mentioned and not be overcome with sadness and frustration.

When I say I take issue with such a system, this is aside from the idea that it is what it is here, and one can do what one can—"when one comes across a starving entity, the correct response is to feed the entity" (paraphrased)—not because I follow the LOO, but because that is a logical conclusion based on my own thinking.

It's true that doing what you can to help does mitigate the focus on the sorrow here. And as others have pointed out, it's good to remember and focus on so much beauty in this world. But doing so does not take the sorrow away, and it is still difficult to be here in such a troubled world.

I would like to add that the original channelings of Ra are subject to the idea that advanced beings of that caliber were communicating very complex ideas, and that we must consider our own paradigms, filters, and limitations through which we interpret and comprehend an enormity, let alone infinity, of apprehension about the workings of the cosmos.