A strange experience

[Night Owl]

Not long ago, a strange experience happened to me. I was wondering if anyone could help me understand, or explain to me the purpose of this experience or catalyst.

I was in the kitchen at midnight cooking some food. I took a really deep breath and hold my lungs full of air for 3-4 seconds. Before I could release the air I started to sense a high vibration frequency. I had a hard time feeling if it came from my lungs, or my lower body but it was getting higher and higher. At first I thought it was only a sound coming from outside of my home. But as I focused on it I realized it was around or within me but it was interacting with me and it was not just a sound but I was hearing the sound result of a high vibration frequency. The more I focused the more that vibration took place to a point where I couldn't hear anything else. If someone would have come to talk to me I wouldn't have been able to hear them or interact with them. I thought this might be an entity creating some kind of contact so I decided to have faith and follow that vibration wherever it would lead me. When my focus went on faith that vibration got me out of here. I was litterally vibrating myself with it, but it was taking me away. The vibration was so loud, so high, so powerful it was as pleasant as unpleasant. I felt like it was some kind of test or a trial. But that's just my intuition, it can fail me.


I felt the process was going faster and faster and suddenly a doubt appeared in my mind. A fear that if I would follow it, there may not be a possibility of me coming back. When that doubt appeared, it took all the place and suddenly the vibration stopped and I came back to my senses. I tried to hold on to the frequency but no use. It got away. I felt a bit disappointed. Did I fail or did I succeed? What happened exactly? If it was a test of faith I feel I may have succeeded as the purpose could have been simply to create a connection. If it was a test of fear maybe I failed since I let it close the connection. I cannot really say if I felt different or changed after that. Maybe a little, but I don't know how. If it is not a test then what is it? If it was an entity what was it trying to show me? This experience felt so real, so powerful, like if I was in a deep trance of meditation but I was not. All I know is that it got started by a deep breath and it blew me away. I don't have any mental illness and I don't take any medication. This has nothing to do with the food either, I didn't had time to eat it so it is not the result of any substance. Since it was at night, everything was really silent so I could really focus on the experience this is why I really tried to focus and took the time to process the experience.

I had many deep experiences with meditation and psychedelics where I felt like I left my body but it was nothing like any previous experiences I had. I had full control over my judgment. I had full control of my freewill.

Any help understanding this experience would be much appreciated.

[Stranger]

matrix, I haven't had an experience like yours, but two related ones. First, after doing some pranayam (breath work) at a yoga center, I felt my entire body powerfully vibrate, especially the chakra areas.

Wim Hof uses breath to be comfortable without clothes in below-freezing temperatures; he climbed Mount Everest in shorts. In a documentary about him that someone recently posted here, the filmmakers attempt his breath method and report buzzing/vibrating sensations. So the breath may have had something to do with triggering it. Which leads to the question - why were you holding the breath? What was on your mind at the time? Perhaps there may be a clue there.

Second relevant experience: I used to walk to my office, a 30 min walk or so, and occupy my time by chanting the Lord's Prayer like a mantra. This was done with full emotional realism, shall we say, by which I mean an inner reaching out to the Divine with love and gratitude. By this I wasn't trying to accomplish anything other than keep myself in a positive spiritual state - wasn't expecting anything unusual to happen.

Well one day, after months of doing this, in the middle of my walk in my inner sight I suddenly see a powerful arm reaching down, and an inner voice said, "take my hand, I will lift you up."

Again, morning time, I'm perfectly awake, I don't do drugs or even drink alcohol, and here it is. I'm on my way to work. The smart thing to do would have been to ask, "what does that mean?" But that didn't occur to me. I had no idea who or what this was. Instead I stare at the arm and think dumbly, "why, that's a really powerful arm". The voice responds, in surprise "why, yes, I suppose it is." I think for a couple of moments and say, "no thanks." It all goes away.

I later came to recognize that voice as the Logos.

There is just about nothing that I've regretted more since that day, for years and years than turning down that offer, and wondering what would have happened.

However, I continued my spiritual work, and everything worked out better than I could have ever imagined. So the moral of this lengthy tale is that this Universe and our Logos are all about second (and third, and billionth) chances. So, forgive yourself for a natural reaction to an unnatural situation, and have faith that you will have whatever you need and are ready for at all times.

Much love to you.

EDIT: Reflecting on this, I was told that this experience and the ensuing regret helped to motivate my spiritual seeking, so it served a purpose.

I also don't think this your experience (or mine) was a test - tests are about being able to handle whatever life throws at us calmly and with love toward all involved, including oneself -- not blindly jumping off cliffs.

[Jade]

I HAVE had a very similar experience, matrix! But it was on a low dose of psilocybin.

What happened to me is that, I was relaxing into the dose with my eyes closed, and usually the mushrooms have the accompanying "quickening" effect where I feel myself vibrating at a much higher frequency. I was getting used to that (I tripped 3-4 times over a couple months) Then I heard a high-pitched whine. It started low and got louder and louder. I kept myself "tuned" and whatnot and prayed, but it kept getting LOUDER AND LOUDER. I thought my ear drums were gonna pop or my brain would explode or something. Finally I had to ask for it to stop, because I was afraid.

Did we fail a test? Idk, maybe. I guess I don't really know either. I would guess maybe it was a communication of some sort, or maybe it was just a test of faith. I knew during and afterwards that nothing could happen to my physical body in that situation, but the fear stopped me. I guess that is probably how I have always seated it in my experience. It was probably the least pleasant thing that happened to me during my trips, but not traumatizing or anything.

[Minyatur]

I guess you can define it as you want but a test seems backward to me as a test implies a good choice to make.

Seems you were presented with an opportunity in which you had a choice to make. You made your choice as a result of your ego fearing to lose itself. I think the fear is valid and so is the choice of the ego to desire to be.

[Night Owl]

I HAVE had a very similar experience, matrix! But it was on a low dose of psilocybin.

What happened to me is that, I was relaxing into the dose with my eyes closed, and usually the mushrooms have the accompanying "quickening" effect where I feel myself vibrating at a much higher frequency. I was getting used to that (I tripped 3-4 times over a couple months) Then I heard a high-pitched whine. It started low and got louder and louder. I kept myself "tuned" and whatnot and prayed, but it kept getting LOUDER AND LOUDER. I thought my ear drums were gonna pop or my brain would explode or something. Finally I had to ask for it to stop, because I was afraid.

Did we fail a test? Idk, maybe. I guess I don't really know either. I would guess maybe it was a communication of some sort, or maybe it was just a test of faith. I knew during and afterwards that nothing could happen to my physical body in that situation, but the fear stopped me. I guess that is probably how I have always seated it in my experience. It was probably the least pleasant thing that happened to me during my trips, but not traumatizing or anything.

I felt the exact same thing where I thought my eardrums were gonna pop or my brain would explode. That scared me enough to resist the ascension. I wondered if that could be because of cannabis. I think I smoked a bit earlier in the evening but I'm so used to it's effect usually after less than an hour I'm completely sober and it was almost half a day later. I felt completely sober while it happened but I guess it could have just raised a little bit my vibration if there still some after effect for some reason.

[Night Owl]

matrix, I haven't had an experience like yours, but two related ones.  First, after doing some pranayam (breath work) at a yoga center, I felt my entire body powerfully vibrate, especially the chakra areas.

Wim Hof uses breath to be comfortable without clothes in below-freezing temperatures; he climbed Mount Everest in shorts.  In a documentary about him that someone recently posted here, the filmmakers attempt his breath method and report buzzing/vibrating sensations.  So the breath may have had something to do with triggering it.  Which leads to the question - why were you holding the breath?  What was on your mind at the time?  Perhaps there may be a clue there.

Second relevant experience: I used to walk to my office, a 30 min walk or so, and occupy my time by chanting the Lord's Prayer like a mantra.  This was done with full emotional realism, shall we say, by which I mean an inner reaching out to the Divine with love and gratitude.  By this I wasn't trying to accomplish anything other than keep myself in a positive spiritual state - wasn't expecting anything unusual to happen.

Well one day, after months of doing this, in the middle of my walk in my inner sight I suddenly see a powerful arm reaching down, and an inner voice said, "take my hand, I will lift you up."

Again, morning time, I'm perfectly awake, I don't do drugs or even drink alcohol, and here it is.  I'm on my way to work.  The smart thing to do would have been to ask, "what does that mean?"  But that didn't occur to me.  I had no idea who or what this was.  Instead I stare at the arm and think dumbly, "why, that's a really powerful arm".  The voice responds, in surprise "why, yes, I suppose it is."  I think for a couple of moments and say, "no thanks."  It all goes away.

I later came to recognize that voice as the Logos.

There is just about nothing that I've regretted more since that day, for years and years than turning down that offer, and wondering what would have happened.

However, I continued my spiritual work, and everything worked out better than I could have ever imagined.  So the moral of this lengthy tale is that this Universe and our Logos are all about second (and third, and billionth) chances.  So, forgive yourself for a natural reaction to an unnatural situation, and have faith that you will have whatever you need and are ready for at all times.

Much love to you.

EDIT: Reflecting on this, I was told that this experience and the ensuing regret helped to motivate my spiritual seeking, so it served a purpose.  

I also don't think this your experience (or mine) was a test - tests are about being able to handle whatever life throws at us calmly and with love toward all involved, including oneself -- not blindly jumping off cliffs.

I guess you're right it's probably not a test. But that just make me more curious about the nature of such event. Could that have happened differently?

About me holding my breath, I was just holding it because I like to take deep breaths and open my lungs fully because it makes you feel light and calm. Kind of like breath in meditation. I was trying to focus on what I was doing.

[Night Owl]

I guess you can define it as you want but a test seems backward to me as a test implies a good choice to make.

Seems you were presented with an opportunity in which you had a choice to make. You made your choice as a result of your ego fearing to lose itself. I think the fear is valid and so is the choice of the ego to desire to be.

Then why have I stayed?

[Minyatur]

I guess you can define it as you want but a test seems backward to me as a test implies a good choice to make.

Seems you were presented with an opportunity in which you had a choice to make. You made your choice as a result of your ego fearing to lose itself. I think the fear is valid and so is the choice of the ego to desire to be.

Then why have I stayed?

Why you made the choice you made? Look within.

I made the same choice you did through the same feeling, only difference is that I did not see it as failing a test and more that within me exist the desire to stretch the current experience of myself.

[Jade]

Are you saying that you perceived it as an opportunity to ascend? As in, end the incarnation? And the choice was made to stay?

[1109]

I've had similar experiences in deep meditation. I believe the "sound" is heard when your waking consciousness is phasing out of your physical body and is tuning in to the astral body or something like that.

[Night Owl]

Are you saying that you perceived it as an opportunity to ascend? As in, end the incarnation? And the choice was made to stay?

It is a possibility I have considered. Honestly, this vibration felt it could go much higher and that's when I realised it may not be as simple as a vibration. I don't know if my incarnation could have ended but I felt this could have been the case. Maybe it was just a fear.

[Night Owl]

I've had similar experiences in deep meditation. I believe the "sound" is heard when your waking consciousness is phasing out of your physical body and is tuning in to the astral body or something like that.

If that is the case, what would have happened if I had followed it further?

[ada]

You know better than any of us that the physical world is an illusion. Let go of what keeps you grounded to this earth, let go of fear.

[Jade]

Are you saying that you perceived it as an opportunity to ascend? As in, end the incarnation? And the choice was made to stay?

It is a possibility I have considered. Honestly, this vibration felt it could go much higher and that's when I realised it may not be as simple as a vibration. I don't know if my incarnation could have ended but I felt this could have been the case. Maybe it was just a fear.

I can see that, I'm not sure I resonate with it entirely because I'm not sure it was part of my life programming to ever leave before the full end of my incarnation, or to even give myself an out like that. But maybe?

I mean, I really think we had a very similar experience and I can see how I could have felt that, too. I'm just not sure I can see myself ever "passing" the test by allowing myself to leave, so that's why I'm not sure I can really see it as a test.

Strange stuff. I'll keep this experience in the back of my head for a while and see if anything else shakes loose.

[Night Owl]

You know better than any of us that the physical world is an illusion. Let go of what keeps you grounded to this earth, let go of fear.

I know not better. Only as much as my path allows me to know. I don't think this fear is physical though.

[Night Owl]

Are you saying that you perceived it as an opportunity to ascend? As in, end the incarnation? And the choice was made to stay?

It is a possibility I have considered. Honestly, this vibration felt it could go much higher and that's when I realised it may not be as simple as a vibration. I don't know if my incarnation could have ended but I felt this could have been the case. Maybe it was just a fear.

I can see that, I'm not sure I resonate with it entirely because I'm not sure it was part of my life programming to ever leave before the full end of my incarnation, or to even give myself an out like that. But maybe?

I mean, I really think we had a very similar experience and I can see how I could have felt that, too. I'm just not sure I can see myself ever "passing" the test by allowing myself to leave, so that's why I'm not sure I can really see it as a test.

Strange stuff. I'll keep this experience in the back of my head for a while and see if anything else shakes loose.

I guess I'm a bit confused as to what keeps me here. But I am curious about how things go with a natural flow with life. How do things evolve from here? How deep can a life pathway lead?

[Jade]

I think the possibilities are endless. What do you most want to do? What pocket of the Earth do you feel you can make better just by indulging in things that bring you pleasure?

[Night Owl]

I sometimes feel like I don't want anything and I just react to whatever my surrounding brings to me on a paticular day because apparently the universe needs me to be where I am. But when I go back on what I am, what I think, what I learned I just wonder what's the point? What have I got with this existence of mine exactly? Is this going anywhere? What makes what I am better than not being anything? What exactly is worth creating all this universe just so that I am here right now?

It just seems like whatever one does or does not, one is always at the center of things. No matter how much experience, no matter what is learned, no matter how much polarity is gained everything is still in the center of everything. What can possibly give meaning and consistence to experience infinity? How does infinity doesn't create infinite futility. The more there is, the less each fragments of everything become small in perspective. How does everything reconcile into one epic and meaningful experience?

Sorry for negative toughts.... they go deep sometimes! They still are positive intentions. I seek meaning, I seek truth, I seek completion, I seek progression. But how are those things even possible without creating a huge paradox with the OIC?

[Jade]

These thoughts are not negative, you are contemplating the nature of your beingness, which does run deep.

It is my view that we have gifted ourself with this incarnation, and when we leave it will we look back on the great majority of it with great fondness. The more we use the act of our will to experience what we desire, the more darling our experience.

Have you taken some time to ask yourself what you want? I mean, to ask very deeply, and open your eyes then immediately after to be ready for signposts. This should help. The Matrix has to reach for the Potentiator - you have to create an input of a desire to experience. I know you are expressing that that is the hard part, being presented with infinity and all. But maybe a subtle shift to seeing that which has infinite potential as exciting. That which you do is not wasted, because there will never be another you to act in the now moment you have given yourself. No matter what you do, your experience is a unique harvest for the all. The more consciously the experience is used, the more bountiful the fruit.

Ra says Wanderers have specifically come here at this time to help lighten the planetary sphere and aid in harvest. The minimum action to meet this requirement is to find some joy in existence.

If you seek the keys to progression beyond that, I would suggest taking a closer look at the archetypes. Some of your answers may lie there.

[Night Owl]

I know not what I want no matter how deep I go. It seems part of my veil and it seems like the most veiled of all informations I have within my soul. I know only what I want not. This is what I have had to work with all my life. It is extremely useful information to help others I think. It is also extremely hard for me to move foward. I'm not even sure I know what I am so it is difficult to identify something I want in particular while the I speaking is a fragile concept within me. I know the more consciously we live the experience, the more bountiful the fruit. I am exactly searching for a recipe to grow better fruits because I'm all about quality. I open myself to whatever is better than what I do and did until now.

I have found contentment instead of joy as pure joy doesn't seem to be part of my being. I wonder if that is a true concept or only a misconception of the mind when one looks upon other self smiling thinking this is joy. Though I have made huge improvements on that. I've taken huge steps from depression towards easy-goingness and contentment. I don't think about dying like I used to a couple of years ago.

My study of the LOO is presently focused on the archetypes. I agree it is useful information but I haven't found an answer to my question so far. It gives me answers about mecanics of consciousness and programming under the veil and it is indeed really interesting to integrate these concepts within the reality we share. But I see not my path. I see only infinite potential with equal worth in every directions. I would need a plan to work effectively and moving forward because forward is the only way. I need a goal to work out plans and I have no goals whatsoever except continuing to not die because I seem to be programmed to survive even though I fail to see how my freewill is leading me here. The only thing keeping me to progress spiritually is that I have good intentions. But what use are good intentions with nothing to focus them upon?

What if the only distortions I have left are what keeps me alive? Wouldn't undistorting myself lead to the end my self? And is that good or bad? Since I guess nothing is good or bad how does one decides what to do and what not to do for himself and not for others? Is that only measured on a scale of likely to unlikely?

[Minyatur]

Pro tip : flip a penny to make choices (a penny was flipped as to whether or not I post this)

[Jade]

The self is never annihilated, if that is what you are afraid of. Also, undistorting/balancing yourself as an entity doesn't lead to being harvested out of this incarnation unwillingly. What I guess I've learned from the archetypes is that as one makes a choice, and sticks to that choice, that the veil is penetrated further and the desire for service in the chosen path intensifies. Do you feel you have committed to a Choice? It doesn't matter which one you make, but progression to higher sub-octaves of our reality requires making a choice (and thereby sacrificing the other choice). This is one of the overarching lessons of the archetypes that I see.

If you are thinking that as you become less distorted you become less of the unique you that you are, I think that is incorrect, too. Seth has an analogy for this: We start as babies. We grow into children, adolescents, teenagers, adults, and continue to visibly age from there. Are we the same person as the baby, adolescent, etc? Yes. Do we contain a single iota of material beingness from that younger, smaller version of us? No, each cell has died and reborn innumerable times. We are different from our younger, earlier selves, but specifically a product of that earlier self. The child has not been annihilated, just transformed.

[Night Owl]

I don't think I am afraid of annihilation. I simply wonder what keeps me from staying intact as a self. Do I really have some kind of process keeping me safe from entropy? And I desired that?

I have incredible difficulty discarting choices. And this difficulty seems like increasing the more I awaken. I see interests, or disinterests in every choices possible. How does one target one choice as being of better worth to focus on this singular choice? If there is no worth to measure the likelyness of a choice, how is the choice made? I feel I must understand the deepest mecanics of the choice because without choosing something from deep within I feel I can't commit to anything as of now. Commitment seems to make me go backward. Everytime a catalyst has led to me to choose to commit to something I have had to withdraw from that in front of the realisation that I don't want enough of anything to commit fully to it. Without any commitment I am like a flow of air constantly moving with the set motion. But the motion isn't going anywhere it seems.

I have not read the Seth material but I am curious enough to consider the possibility to try it. But that is huge of a commitment for me. I am a pathetic reader and this kind of material requires much effort to absorb. I felt the LOO was worth it so far. Could you resume to me some let's say crucial parts of seth's philosophy? Of what interest is this material? I have always been curious about a high density perspective of negative wisdom. For exemple I know the haton material covers what he calls real spiritual maturity as it is really different from what society describes as maturity and I agree what I consider to be maturity is not what society or science has labeled as maturity.

Your analogy with seth is interesting. But I find myself not relating to my past self at all. I feel like a completely different perspective each day. Why is that so then?

Your time and answers are much appreciated Jade.

[Jade]

Love you lots, man.

I think when we are in states where we see the infinite possibilities are when we have our most power. It is being naked and full of potential, like the Matrix. You currently have no programs running, and your being is itching for them. The one caveat being that you need to be the one who programs yourself. The empty, unpotentiated Matrix of the Spirit is Primeval Darkness, which would be why things appear so bleak. I don't know if that perspective helps at all.

Okay, so the gist of the Seth material... it's practical application of a very detailed utilization of the Law of Attraction, basically. Seth teaches reality creation, and ways to recognize how our unconscious thoughts are sabotaging our positive intentions. So really primarily Seth is about learning what is in our mind complex and operating it, and recognizing when a thought is limiting us instead of allowing us to expand. As an example that lots of spiritual people have, that money is an evil thing, or that one must work especially hard to obtain it. These are negative belief structures that we constantly reinforce unconsciously, and then our reality reflects that direct belief. It's not just that our positive beliefs/intentions thrust us forward, but that negative belief structures hold us back. It's an indepth lesson on what Ra describes as learning to understand the mind complex, and then eventually Seth gets into how that affects the manifestation of the body complex.

You feel different each day because each day is new and full of new possibilities, as is each moment. Ra says embracing this is learning to utilize the Transformation of the Body.

81.13 Questioner: [We have] already discussed the Significator, so I will skip to number thirteen. Transformation of Body is called Death, for with death the body is transformed to a higher-vibration body for additional learning. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and may be seen to be additionally correct in that each moment and certainly each diurnal period of the bodily incarnation offers death and rebirth to one which is attempting to use the catalyst which is offered it.

I've also personally found that the effort required to read something is proportionate to your readiness to accept the information. The first time I read a Seth book, I slogged through it and it took forever. This last time I read two books, and both felt to breeze by. So if you find you pick up a book and it doesn't feel good reading it, it's likely that there is "intervening material" as Ra likes to say.

[Night Owl]

I think I'm gonna give Seth a look. I've always been interested in the unconscious mind.

About reading skills, I meant that whatever book I try to read I end up asleep within the first page or my brain feels incredible dissonance. And I have good eyes. It's like I'm not meant to digest information that way unless I have incredible motivation. Seems like typical veil's doing.

I've been searching for the Ra session talking about the choice archetype but I end up with too much results about other archetypes and many occurences of the word choice, which there are really a whole bunch. Do you remember by any chance which one it is?

[Jade]

The Choice archetype? As in the Fool? Or are you looking for the archetypes which talk about the choice in general? Almost all of the archetypes have something to "choose" about them.

Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=T...The+Choice

[Night Owl]

Yes I was referring to the tarot card or the fool. Thanks!

[Infinite Unity]

Not long ago, a strange experience happened to me. I was wondering if anyone could help me understand, or explain to me the purpose of this experience or catalyst.

I was in the kitchen at midnight cooking some food. I took a really deep breath and hold my lungs full of air for 3-4 seconds. Before I could release the air I started to sense a high vibration frequency. I had a hard time feeling if it came from my lungs, or my lower body but it was getting higher and higher. At first I thought it was only a sound coming from outside of my home. But as I focused on it I realized it was around or within me but it was interacting with me and it was not just a sound but I was hearing the sound result of a high vibration frequency. The more I focused the more that vibration took place to a point where I couldn't hear anything else. If someone would have come to talk to me I wouldn't have been able to hear them or interact with them. I thought this might be an entity creating some kind of contact so I decided to have faith and follow that vibration wherever it would lead me. When my focus went on faith that vibration got me out of here. I was litterally vibrating myself with it, but it was taking me away. The vibration was so loud, so high, so powerful it was as pleasant as unpleasant. I felt like it was some kind of test or a trial. But that's just my intuition, it can fail me.


I felt the process was going faster and faster and suddenly a doubt appeared in my mind. A fear that if I would follow it, there may not be a possibility of me coming back. When that doubt appeared, it took all the place and suddenly the vibration stopped and I came back to my senses. I tried to hold on to the frequency but no use. It got away. I felt a bit disappointed. Did I fail or did I succeed? What happened exactly? If it was a test of faith I feel I may have succeeded as the purpose could have been simply to create a connection. If it was a test of fear maybe I failed since I let it close the connection. I cannot really say if I felt different or changed after that. Maybe a little, but I don't know how. If it is not a test then what is it? If it was an entity what was it trying to show me? This experience felt so real, so powerful, like if I was in a deep trance of meditation but I was not. All I know is that it got started by a deep breath and it blew me away. I don't have any mental illness and I don't take any medication. This has nothing to do with the food either, I didn't had time to eat it so it is not the result of any substance. Since it was at night, everything was really silent so I could really focus on the experience this is why I really tried to focus and took the time to process the experience.  

I had many deep experiences with meditation and psychedelics where I felt like I left my body but it was nothing like any previous experiences I had. I had full control over my judgment. I had full control of my freewill.

Any help understanding this experience would be much appreciated.

Direct contact from higher self, in my opinion.